How Do Restaurants, Continue To Get Away With This?

[Vastator]

Well here is the "official" scoop.

An employer may pay a tipped employee not less than $2.13 an hour in direct wages if that amount plus the tips received equal at least the federal minimum wage, the employee retains all tips and the employee customarily and regularly receives more than $30 a month in tips.

That being said, I have MORE of an issue with restaurants that pool their tips and split them equally. Each girl (or guy) should get their own tips.

I have an issue with minimum wage laws.

As do I. But if I must adhere to them... It really chaps my ass to see others get away with not doing likewise...

 

[cnelsen]

If we have minimum wage laws; and we do... How can restaurants continue getting away with paying waitresses less than the legal minimum?
If I receive service that I consider better than average; I'm all for tipping. But for a business owner to assume that each patron is going to tip at a given rate; is nothing more than gambling with their employees wages.
I don't believe in compulsory gratuities, or mandatory tipping. And I damn sure don't approve of employers getting away with paying their employees less than the minimum I'm forced to pay!
How do they get away with it?

Just an FYI, cheapskate.

Poll reveals who are the best, worst tippers

My tipping fluctuates depending on race, gender, creed, national origin, sexual preference, gender identity, political views, sincerity of laughter at my jokes, and the likelihood the server will have sex with me. I don't even notice the service. If my soup doesn't arrive, I tell the manager to go get it.

 

[Bonzi]

Well here is the "official" scoop.

An employer may pay a tipped employee not less than $2.13 an hour in direct wages if that amount plus the tips received equal at least the federal minimum wage, the employee retains all tips and the employee customarily and regularly receives more than $30 a month in tips.

That being said, I have MORE of an issue with restaurants that pool their tips and split them equally. Each girl (or guy) should get their own tips.

I have an issue with minimum wage laws.

What, specifically, is your issue with them?

 

[jillian]

If we have minimum wage laws; and we do... How can restaurants continue getting away with paying waitresses less than the legal minimum?
If I receive service that I consider better than average; I'm all for tipping. But for a business owner to assume that each patron is going to tip at a given rate; is nothing more than gambling with their employees wages.
I don't believe in compulsory gratuities, or mandatory tipping. And I damn sure don't approve of employers getting away with paying their employees less than the minimum I'm forced to pay!
How do they get away with it?

because the minimum wage for servers is about $2 and change. the intent is that the workers are tipped.

is there some reason you think anyone should make $ and change an hour? stop whining.

 

[cnelsen]

Well here is the "official" scoop.

An employer may pay a tipped employee not less than $2.13 an hour in direct wages if that amount plus the tips received equal at least the federal minimum wage, the employee retains all tips and the employee customarily and regularly receives more than $30 a month in tips.

That being said, I have MORE of an issue with restaurants that pool their tips and split them equally. Each girl (or guy) should get their own tips.

I have an issue with minimum wage laws.

What, specifically, is your issue with them?

If I want to sell my labor to a restaurant owner, we should be free to decide between us what the terms of the sale will be. Likewise, if I want to buy a hamburger from a restaurant owner, I don't want some corrupt politician in Washington telling us what the terms of the sale will be. Let the restaurant owner set the price of his burger, and I'll decide whether I'll buy it. Called free enterprise, or, freedom, for short.

 

[jillian]

Well here is the "official" scoop.

An employer may pay a tipped employee not less than $2.13 an hour in direct wages if that amount plus the tips received equal at least the federal minimum wage, the employee retains all tips and the employee customarily and regularly receives more than $30 a month in tips.

That being said, I have MORE of an issue with restaurants that pool their tips and split them equally. Each girl (or guy) should get their own tips.

I have an issue with minimum wage laws.

What, specifically, is your issue with them?

because he thinks no one should be able to make a living and the Almighty employer should be able to pay slave wages like they did in the days of sweat shops.

 

[jillian]

Well here is the "official" scoop.

An employer may pay a tipped employee not less than $2.13 an hour in direct wages if that amount plus the tips received equal at least the federal minimum wage, the employee retains all tips and the employee customarily and regularly receives more than $30 a month in tips.

That being said, I have MORE of an issue with restaurants that pool their tips and split them equally. Each girl (or guy) should get their own tips.

I have an issue with minimum wage laws.

What, specifically, is your issue with them?

If I want to sell my labor to a restaurant owner, we should be free to decide between us what the terms of the sale will be. Likewise, if I want to buy a hamburger from a restaurant owner, I don't want some corrupt politician in Washington telling us what the terms of the sale will be. Let the restaurant owner set the price of his burger, and I'll decide whether I'll buy it. Called free enterprise, or, freedom, for short.

riiiiiiiiight.... it's all about freedom to be paid like you work in a sweat shop

thank heaven we progressed beyond that type of stupidity. I can understand a kleptocrat being ok with it, but why would someone like you, who is clearly not of the kleptocrat class, be ok with it?

and don't use the word "freedom". that's childish and stupid

 

[cnelsen]

Well here is the "official" scoop.

An employer may pay a tipped employee not less than $2.13 an hour in direct wages if that amount plus the tips received equal at least the federal minimum wage, the employee retains all tips and the employee customarily and regularly receives more than $30 a month in tips.

That being said, I have MORE of an issue with restaurants that pool their tips and split them equally. Each girl (or guy) should get their own tips.

I have an issue with minimum wage laws.

What, specifically, is your issue with them?

If I want to sell my labor to a restaurant owner, we should be free to decide between us what the terms of the sale will be. Likewise, if I want to buy a hamburger from a restaurant owner, I don't want some corrupt politician in Washington telling us what the terms of the sale will be. Let the restaurant owner set the price of his burger, and I'll decide whether I'll buy it. Called free enterprise, or, freedom, for short.

riiiiiiiiight.... it's all about freedom to be paid like you work in a sweat shop

thank heaven we progressed beyond that type of stupidity. I can understand a kleptocrat being ok with it, but why would someone like you, who is clearly not of the kleptocrat class, be ok with it?

and don't use the word "freedom". that's childish and stupid

"and don't use the word "freedom". that's childish and stupid"

 

[Vastator]

If we have minimum wage laws; and we do... How can restaurants continue getting away with paying waitresses less than the legal minimum?
If I receive service that I consider better than average; I'm all for tipping. But for a business owner to assume that each patron is going to tip at a given rate; is nothing more than gambling with their employees wages.
I don't believe in compulsory gratuities, or mandatory tipping. And I damn sure don't approve of employers getting away with paying their employees less than the minimum I'm forced to pay!
How do they get away with it?

because the minimum wage for servers is about $2 and change. the intent is that the workers are tipped.

is there some reason you think anyone should make $ and change an hour? stop whining.

Yes. If I have to pay my employees a minimum wage; so should everyone. If a customer wants to give a bonus! That's their business.

 

[mdk]

Well here is the "official" scoop.

An employer may pay a tipped employee not less than $2.13 an hour in direct wages if that amount plus the tips received equal at least the federal minimum wage, the employee retains all tips and the employee customarily and regularly receives more than $30 a month in tips.

That being said, I have MORE of an issue with restaurants that pool their tips and split them equally. Each girl (or guy) should get their own tips.

I worked in bar that did this and I left after a couple months b/c some people wouldn't pull their weight.

 

[toobfreak]

If we have minimum wage laws; and we do... How can restaurants continue getting away with paying waitresses less than the legal minimum?
If I receive service that I consider better than average; I'm all for tipping. But for a business owner to assume that each patron is going to tip at a given rate; is nothing more than gambling with their employees wages.
I don't believe in compulsory gratuities, or mandatory tipping. And I damn sure don't approve of employers getting away with paying their employees less than the minimum I'm forced to pay!
How do they get away with it?

The other side of the coin is that many restaurant waiters and waitresses end up, with good tips, making more doing menial, minimum wage labor than many college graduates with degrees and education.

 

[jillian]

If we have minimum wage laws; and we do... How can restaurants continue getting away with paying waitresses less than the legal minimum?
If I receive service that I consider better than average; I'm all for tipping. But for a business owner to assume that each patron is going to tip at a given rate; is nothing more than gambling with their employees wages.
I don't believe in compulsory gratuities, or mandatory tipping. And I damn sure don't approve of employers getting away with paying their employees less than the minimum I'm forced to pay!
How do they get away with it?

because the minimum wage for servers is about $2 and change. the intent is that the workers are tipped.

is there some reason you think anyone should make $ and change an hour? stop whining.

Yes. If I have to pay my employees a minimum wage; so should everyone. If a customer wants to give a bonus! That's their business.

then lobby your state legislature to require a minimum wage for restaurant workers. I'd support that. and while you're at it, you can lobby them to require that restaurants give paid sick days so someone with the flu isn't serving

but until there is a minimum wage for restaurant workers, I'm ok with tipping. I usually tip between 20 and 25 percent depending on quality of service. I figure if there's a minimum wage for restaurant workers, it will probably cost about the same.

 

[Bonzi]

Well here is the "official" scoop.

An employer may pay a tipped employee not less than $2.13 an hour in direct wages if that amount plus the tips received equal at least the federal minimum wage, the employee retains all tips and the employee customarily and regularly receives more than $30 a month in tips.

That being said, I have MORE of an issue with restaurants that pool their tips and split them equally. Each girl (or guy) should get their own tips.

I worked in bar that did this and I left after a couple months b/c some people wouldn't pull their weight.

I know it sounds crazy, but, there are two jobs I have always wanted..... waitress and BlackJack dealer... because I KNOW I would make a fortune in tips. I only live an hour or so from a casino, so, one of my dreams are still alive!

 

[Bonzi]

If we have minimum wage laws; and we do... How can restaurants continue getting away with paying waitresses less than the legal minimum?
If I receive service that I consider better than average; I'm all for tipping. But for a business owner to assume that each patron is going to tip at a given rate; is nothing more than gambling with their employees wages.
I don't believe in compulsory gratuities, or mandatory tipping. And I damn sure don't approve of employers getting away with paying their employees less than the minimum I'm forced to pay!
How do they get away with it?

The other side of the coin is that many restaurant waiters and waitresses end up, with good tips, making more doing menial, minimum wage labor than many college graduates with degrees and education.

which is why we need to revamp our educational system.... both public and private....

 

[mdk]

I know it sounds crazy, but, there are two jobs I have always wanted..... waitress and BlackJack dealer... because I KNOW I would make a fortune in tips. I only live an hour or so from a casino, so, one of my dreams are still alive!

I paid for my degrees on the floor and behind the bar. I was very good. Too good b/c my friends always ask me make their drinks for them. I swear I spend 1/3 of any party mixing drinks for people. lol

 

[depotoo]

I’ll bet you are applying to become a server...
Nothing wrong with it, you can make good money, ters wage, vs minimum wage, most will be sure you make above it, if you treat them right.If one is a cheapskate, then invariably another more than makes up the difference, usually.

If we have minimum wage laws; and we do... How can restaurants continue getting away with paying waitresses less than the legal minimum?
If I receive service that I consider better than average; I'm all for tipping. But for a business owner to assume that each patron is going to tip at a given rate; is nothing more than gambling with their employees wages.
I don't believe in compulsory gratuities, or mandatory tipping. And I damn sure don't approve of employers getting away with paying their employees less than the minimum I'm forced to pay!
How do they get away with it?

because the minimum wage for servers is about $2 and change. the intent is that the workers are tipped.

is there some reason you think anyone should make $ and change an hour? stop whining.

Yes. If I have to pay my employees a minimum wage; so should everyone. If a customer wants to give a bonus! That's their business.

 

[Bonzi]

I know it sounds crazy, but, there are two jobs I have always wanted..... waitress and BlackJack dealer... because I KNOW I would make a fortune in tips. I only live an hour or so from a casino, so, one of my dreams are still alive!

I paid for my degrees on the floor and behind the bar. I was very good. Too good b/c my friends always ask me make their drinks for them. I swear I spend 1/3 of any party mixing drinks for people. lol

Because you care. It's a rare quality.

 

[jillian]

If we have minimum wage laws; and we do... How can restaurants continue getting away with paying waitresses less than the legal minimum?
If I receive service that I consider better than average; I'm all for tipping. But for a business owner to assume that each patron is going to tip at a given rate; is nothing more than gambling with their employees wages.
I don't believe in compulsory gratuities, or mandatory tipping. And I damn sure don't approve of employers getting away with paying their employees less than the minimum I'm forced to pay!
How do they get away with it?

The other side of the coin is that many restaurant waiters and waitresses end up, with good tips, making more doing menial, minimum wage labor than many college graduates with degrees and education.

which is why we need to revamp our educational system.... both public and private....

that seems a non sequitur

 

[depotoo]

Decades ago I knew of people pulling in a couple of hundred a shift easily, because they were so good.

If we have minimum wage laws; and we do... How can restaurants continue getting away with paying waitresses less than the legal minimum?
If I receive service that I consider better than average; I'm all for tipping. But for a business owner to assume that each patron is going to tip at a given rate; is nothing more than gambling with their employees wages.
I don't believe in compulsory gratuities, or mandatory tipping. And I damn sure don't approve of employers getting away with paying their employees less than the minimum I'm forced to pay!
How do they get away with it?

The other side of the coin is that many restaurant waiters and waitresses end up, with good tips, making more doing menial, minimum wage labor than many college graduates with degrees and education.

 

[Bonzi]

If we have minimum wage laws; and we do... How can restaurants continue getting away with paying waitresses less than the legal minimum?
If I receive service that I consider better than average; I'm all for tipping. But for a business owner to assume that each patron is going to tip at a given rate; is nothing more than gambling with their employees wages.
I don't believe in compulsory gratuities, or mandatory tipping. And I damn sure don't approve of employers getting away with paying their employees less than the minimum I'm forced to pay!
How do they get away with it?

The other side of the coin is that many restaurant waiters and waitresses end up, with good tips, making more doing menial, minimum wage labor than many college graduates with degrees and education.

which is why we need to revamp our educational system.... both public and private....

that seems a non sequitur

how so?