How did Birth Control become a right?

[Ray From Cleveland]

If you oppose abortion, then make birth control a right.

A right paid by who? Do you really believe that employers are to financially support new rights?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

By passing legislation in the liberal media that's how. Its called propaganda, can't muster the support of the American people, can't get actual laws passed, then use propaganda in the schools and media to faux pass it.

I get that. What I don't get is how anybody can file a lawsuit over it. Employers provide (or should be allowed to provide) whatever benefits they desire. No government should force any industry to provide anything but a safe workplace and reasonable demands of an employee.

What's even more disturbing is that some liberal court will actually rule employees have the right to free birth control by their employers.

Wouldn't be an issue if the right didn't fuck around with such things.

Wouldn't be an issue if the left just governed when in charge and not try to takeover private industries.

Actually you're wrong. The first thing was that the right keeps trying to prevent things like abortion, and the left is playing the partisan game.

Many people think they can simply do things with no consequences, like preventing Obama from appointing a Supreme Court justice. But then when it comes back to bite them on the ass because the Democrats fight back just as dirty, people on the right start whinging and moaning that it isn't right, it isn't fair.

Don't you get it? As long as this partisan politics bullshit happens, THE GAME is more important than YOU.

So how did we get bit in the ass by blocking DumBama's appointment? Seems to me like we won that battle.

 

[frigidweirdo]

By passing legislation in the liberal media that's how. Its called propaganda, can't muster the support of the American people, can't get actual laws passed, then use propaganda in the schools and media to faux pass it.

I get that. What I don't get is how anybody can file a lawsuit over it. Employers provide (or should be allowed to provide) whatever benefits they desire. No government should force any industry to provide anything but a safe workplace and reasonable demands of an employee.

What's even more disturbing is that some liberal court will actually rule employees have the right to free birth control by their employers.

Wouldn't be an issue if the right didn't fuck around with such things.

Wouldn't be an issue if the left just governed when in charge and not try to takeover private industries.

Actually you're wrong. The first thing was that the right keeps trying to prevent things like abortion, and the left is playing the partisan game.

Many people think they can simply do things with no consequences, like preventing Obama from appointing a Supreme Court justice. But then when it comes back to bite them on the ass because the Democrats fight back just as dirty, people on the right start whinging and moaning that it isn't right, it isn't fair.

Don't you get it? As long as this partisan politics bullshit happens, THE GAME is more important than YOU.

So how did we get bit in the ass by blocking DumBama's appointment? Seems to me like we won that battle.

Let's see. The courts blocking Trump's travel ban, the courts saying this and that and you keep on whinging about it.

But yeah, battles, winning, that's all it's about, isn't it? Fuck making the country a better place for everyone.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I get that. What I don't get is how anybody can file a lawsuit over it. Employers provide (or should be allowed to provide) whatever benefits they desire. No government should force any industry to provide anything but a safe workplace and reasonable demands of an employee.

What's even more disturbing is that some liberal court will actually rule employees have the right to free birth control by their employers.

Wouldn't be an issue if the right didn't fuck around with such things.

Wouldn't be an issue if the left just governed when in charge and not try to takeover private industries.

Actually you're wrong. The first thing was that the right keeps trying to prevent things like abortion, and the left is playing the partisan game.

Many people think they can simply do things with no consequences, like preventing Obama from appointing a Supreme Court justice. But then when it comes back to bite them on the ass because the Democrats fight back just as dirty, people on the right start whinging and moaning that it isn't right, it isn't fair.

Don't you get it? As long as this partisan politics bullshit happens, THE GAME is more important than YOU.

So how did we get bit in the ass by blocking DumBama's appointment? Seems to me like we won that battle.

Let's see. The courts blocking Trump's travel ban, the courts saying this and that and you keep on whinging about it.

But yeah, battles, winning, that's all it's about, isn't it? Fuck making the country a better place for everyone.

Yeah, they blocked Trumps travel ban, and now it's in effect. Who won that battle?

They tried to block Gorsuch, and who won that battle in the end? As I understand it, Trump is loading the lower courts with nearly 200 conservative judges. Who won that battle?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Wouldn't be an issue if the right didn't fuck around with such things.

Wouldn't be an issue if the left just governed when in charge and not try to takeover private industries.

Actually you're wrong. The first thing was that the right keeps trying to prevent things like abortion, and the left is playing the partisan game.

Many people think they can simply do things with no consequences, like preventing Obama from appointing a Supreme Court justice. But then when it comes back to bite them on the ass because the Democrats fight back just as dirty, people on the right start whinging and moaning that it isn't right, it isn't fair.

Don't you get it? As long as this partisan politics bullshit happens, THE GAME is more important than YOU.

So how did we get bit in the ass by blocking DumBama's appointment? Seems to me like we won that battle.

Let's see. The courts blocking Trump's travel ban, the courts saying this and that and you keep on whinging about it.

But yeah, battles, winning, that's all it's about, isn't it? Fuck making the country a better place for everyone.

Yeah, they blocked Trumps travel ban, and now it's in effect. Who won that battle?

They tried to block Gorsuch, and who won that battle in the end? As I understand it, Trump is loading the lower courts with nearly 200 conservative judges. Who won that battle?

Well, the battle wasn't necessarily about the travel ban, was it. The battle was to make Trump look like he's not very good at being President. And they got the media to roll it out for months that Trump was failing.

He's failing at getting rid of Obamacare, he's failing at so many things. What has Trump actually succeeded in doing that actually has any substance at all? Nothing.

 

[Old Rocks]

When religious rights override civil rights, we all lose. Remember that when it comes to Muslims, and the Jews who still perform sucking circumcision.

Forcing employers to pay for birth control is a civil right? HTF did you come up with that?

Well now, we will just fix that so the employer does not pay for any healthcare. Just the taxes that support full universal single payer healthcare.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Why do people who believe in single payer health care believe they will actually get health care?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

When religious rights override civil rights, we all lose. Remember that when it comes to Muslims, and the Jews who still perform sucking circumcision.

Forcing employers to pay for birth control is a civil right? HTF did you come up with that?

Well now, we will just fix that so the employer does not pay for any healthcare. Just the taxes that support full universal single payer healthcare.

And you're going to do that with a Republican led House, Senate and President? Can't wait to see that.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Wouldn't be an issue if the left just governed when in charge and not try to takeover private industries.

Actually you're wrong. The first thing was that the right keeps trying to prevent things like abortion, and the left is playing the partisan game.

Many people think they can simply do things with no consequences, like preventing Obama from appointing a Supreme Court justice. But then when it comes back to bite them on the ass because the Democrats fight back just as dirty, people on the right start whinging and moaning that it isn't right, it isn't fair.

Don't you get it? As long as this partisan politics bullshit happens, THE GAME is more important than YOU.

So how did we get bit in the ass by blocking DumBama's appointment? Seems to me like we won that battle.

Let's see. The courts blocking Trump's travel ban, the courts saying this and that and you keep on whinging about it.

But yeah, battles, winning, that's all it's about, isn't it? Fuck making the country a better place for everyone.

Yeah, they blocked Trumps travel ban, and now it's in effect. Who won that battle?

They tried to block Gorsuch, and who won that battle in the end? As I understand it, Trump is loading the lower courts with nearly 200 conservative judges. Who won that battle?

Well, the battle wasn't necessarily about the travel ban, was it. The battle was to make Trump look like he's not very good at being President. And they got the media to roll it out for months that Trump was failing.

He's failing at getting rid of Obamacare, he's failing at so many things. What has Trump actually succeeded in doing that actually has any substance at all? Nothing.

We'll take the baby steps any day over Socialism/ Communism. Because even if we lose the House, Senate or Trump gets beat (or decides not to run for reelection) at least we will have reasonable judges stopping so-called progressivism.

Trump added 25 additional deportation courts and has plans on adding another 25. Illegal crossing into the country are at an all time low. He reversed some of DumBama's idiotic measures like forcing schools to accept weirdos in dresses going into our daughters bathroom and showers. There are a lot of things going on behind the scenes that your precious MSM doesn't want to tell you about.

The economy is doing great, fuel is still very reasonable in spite of the hurricane in Texas knocking out some oil platforms, and the stock market has never been better.

 

[Penelope]

Why do people who believe in single payer health care believe they will actually get health care?

Why do you think er visits are healthcare.

 

[Penelope]

Wouldn't be an issue if the left just governed when in charge and not try to takeover private industries.

Actually you're wrong. The first thing was that the right keeps trying to prevent things like abortion, and the left is playing the partisan game.

Many people think they can simply do things with no consequences, like preventing Obama from appointing a Supreme Court justice. But then when it comes back to bite them on the ass because the Democrats fight back just as dirty, people on the right start whinging and moaning that it isn't right, it isn't fair.

Don't you get it? As long as this partisan politics bullshit happens, THE GAME is more important than YOU.

So how did we get bit in the ass by blocking DumBama's appointment? Seems to me like we won that battle.

Let's see. The courts blocking Trump's travel ban, the courts saying this and that and you keep on whinging about it.

But yeah, battles, winning, that's all it's about, isn't it? Fuck making the country a better place for everyone.

Yeah, they blocked Trumps travel ban, and now it's in effect. Who won that battle?

They tried to block Gorsuch, and who won that battle in the end? As I understand it, Trump is loading the lower courts with nearly 200 conservative judges. Who won that battle?

Well, the battle wasn't necessarily about the travel ban, was it. The battle was to make Trump look like he's not very good at being President. And they got the media to roll it out for months that Trump was failing.

He's failing at getting rid of Obamacare, he's failing at so many things. What has Trump actually succeeded in doing that actually has any substance at all? Nothing.

He is killing the ACA one step at a time, took away funding for chip, if you like your Medicare, that is next.

 

[Penelope]

If you oppose abortion, then make birth control a right.

A right paid by who? Do you really believe that employers are to financially support new rights?

The employees pay a hefty amount of their premiums.

 

[Yousaidwhat]

The gov did that is who. Sure beats having abortions. I don't want to pay for prostate checks but we do.

when they wrote the constitution , we had single shot muzzle loaders, who said everyone should carry a semi auto pistol.

Want to go back to the writing of the constitution , lets do it.

We can go back to the writings of the Constitution.

Throw your computer away.

Turn off your internet service.

Find some parchment, a quill and ink.

Write us a letter and mail it to us, delivered by horseman.

Wait patiently for our reply.

 

[Penelope]

The gov did that is who. Sure beats having abortions. I don't want to pay for prostate checks but we do.

when they wrote the constitution , we had single shot muzzle loaders, who said everyone should carry a semi auto pistol.

Want to go back to the writing of the constitution , lets do it.

We can go back to the writings of the Constitution.

Throw your computer away.

Turn off your internet service.

Find some parchment, a quill and ink.

Write us a letter and mail it to us, delivered by horseman.

Wait patiently for our reply.

Yes that is what the GOP wants. To put us back in the dark ages. I'd be more than willing to go back to the 60's but I doubt the people born after that could survive, without their phone and computer. How do you think we did it? Party lines, no remotes.

The constitution is obsolete.

 

[strollingbones]

i bet insurance will still pay 60 bucks for a viagria pill

 

[Penelope]

The Trump administration is rolling back the Obama-era requirement that employer-provided health insurance policies cover birth control methods at no cost to women.

According to senior officials with the Department of Health and Human Services, the goal of the new rule is to allow any company or nonprofit group to exclude the coverage for contraception if it has a religious or moral objection.

The change fulfills a promise President Trump made in May to the Catholic religious order The Little Sisters of the Poor in a ceremony in the White House Rose Garden. The nuns had sued the Obama administration over the birth control requirement.

It also sets up a fight between advocates of religious freedom and those of equal rights for women. The American Civil Liberties Union sued the Trump Administration within hours of the rule being published, claiming it violated the 14th Amendment's Equal Protection Clause, which ensures that all people receive equal protection under the law.

Longer-acting contraception, like an intrauterine device, can cost more than $1,000, says Sarah Lipton-Lubet, a vice president at the National Partnership for Women and Families. She says the new rule is a tool for discrimination against women.

"Women shouldn't be denied access to basic health care based on their employers' religious beliefs," she says. "We all have the right to our religious beliefs. But the way that this rule treats religion is really an excuse to discriminate."

In addition to the ACLU, Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey, and California Attorney General Javier Becerra announced they too plan to file suit opposing the new rule.

Trump Guts Requirement That Employer Health Plans Pay For Birth Control

Maybe some of you leftists can help me out here. How in the world can you say not forcing employers to provide birth control is a violation of equal protection? What's not equal about it? And how is not paying for it "denying access" to birth control? Is there some law that states you can't buy birth control for yourself, and that only your employer can buy it for you?

Who here believes that when the founders wrote the Constitution, that they had forcing employers to provide things for their employees in mind?

I like birth control.

You must be a sinner.

 

[Penelope]

i bet insurance will still pay 60 bucks for a viagria pill

Its a war on women, by the white GOP men.

 

[Penelope]

The gov did that is who. Sure beats having abortions. I don't want to pay for prostate checks but we do.

when they wrote the constitution , we had single shot muzzle loaders, who said everyone should carry a semi auto pistol.

Want to go back to the writing of the constitution , lets do it.

Get out your quill pen and ink well then.


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Lets go back. I spent most of my life without a computer or cell phone. The Constitution is obsolete.

It shows

Thank you.

 

[Moonglow]

i bet insurance will still pay 60 bucks for a viagria pill

You still need those?

 

[JoeB131]

Maybe some of you leftists can help me out here. How in the world can you say not forcing employers to provide birth control is a violation of equal protection? What's not equal about it? And how is not paying for it "denying access" to birth control? Is there some law that states you can't buy birth control for yourself, and that only your employer can buy it for you?

For those playing along at home, Ray is the guy woh can't get health insurance from his employer.

For people with a bit of sense, paying for birth control is actually cheaper for companies than paying for pregnancies.