How Can The Free World Help The Ukrainian War Effort!

[Ringo]

March 30, 2022. The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has published evidence of the use of the Zelensky synagogue in Uman by the regime for military purposes
The official representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation Igor Konashenkov said that this is done in order to provoke a conflict with Jewish religious organizations and their political pressure on Russia in the event of a fire attack on this object.

МО РФ опубликовало доказательства использования режимом Зеленского синагоги в Умани в военных целях

Официальный представитель МО РФ Игорь Конашенков заявил, что это делается для того, чтобы в случае огневого воздействия по этому объекту спровоцировать конфликт с еврейскими религиозными организациями и их политическое давление на Россию.

tvzvezda.ru

 

[badbob85037]

The people of Ukraine must understand why the United States cannot establish a "No-Fly" zone over Ukraine. The short answer is that it would create too high of a risk of a nuclear war with Russia, this writer's personal opinion is that it would definitely cause a nuclear war with Russia. The reasoning here starts with Vladimir Putin's character. He is the most ruthless, callous type of person a human being can be, killing millions of people would not cause personal turmoil for Mr. Putin like it would a normal person, doing such an act would be like making a move on a chess board for Putin. President Putin's behavior in Syria, Chechnya and the Separatist areas of Ukraine back around 2014 demonstrate this complete disregard for human life. Further Vladimir Putin is a barbarian there is no real commitment in him to be virtuous meaning that if one hurts him he is going to hurt that person back, it is his mode of survival it goes to the core of his character; his whole life demonstrates this. If America establishes a No-fly zone in Ukraine it would have to enforce it and since Russia has ground troops in Ukraine and Russian air cover is vital to protecting that force and aiding in that force succeeding in its mission, Russian pilots would have to fly into Ukraine resulting in U.S. pilots having to shoot them down. The loss of Russian pilots plus the corresponding loss of Russian ground forces would be something Vladimir Putin could not let pass his character would not allow it and the only means he would have to strike back at America is to use a nuclear weapon. Russia has various size nuclear weapons so Vladimir Putin would likely use a small size nuclear weapon which would then kill at least tens of thousands of people and then America would have to respond because for the security of the world and especially for the American people the U.S. government cannot allow a sovereign government to unjustly use a nuclear weapon and not militarily respond in a manner that matches the nuclear harm meaning the U.S. would have to at least use a small size nuclear weapon that would kill tens of thousands of Russians; even if the U.S. does not continue the unfolding back and forth that would result from the Putin's guaranteed further nuclear retaliation the world is still going to see a hundred plus thousand of civilians dead over this matter with now the use of nuclear weapons foreseeable threats in the world or quasi acceptable behavior; for the security of the world this path cannot be traveled. Further evidence of the risk that Vladimir Putin would use nuclear weapons are his comments he made six days ago that if outside countries interfere in Russia's military move in Ukraine "they must know that Russia will respond immediately, and the consequences will be such as you have never seen in your entire history."; many credible assessments conclude Vladimir Putin was referring here to the use of nuclear weapons.

Nevertheless I don't know why the Free World including the U.S. cannot get the Ukrainian Security Forces SAM systems (surface-to-air missile defense systems). I don't mean giving the Ukrainian military America's Patriot SAM systems; one these are complex systems that require great skill to operate which the Ukraine military does not have the personnel to operate plus in order for these systems to make a difference in the Ukrainian/Russian war a lot of Patriot batteries would have to be given to Ukraine and since this war is a David vs. Goliath war with Ukraine holding the David role some of these Patriot systems would be captured by Russia where the Russians could then study the systems and then know America's capability to shoot down Russian ballistic missiles and counter our America's SAM defense systems leaving America weaker. But the Ukraine military doesn't need "Porsche" SAM systems, "Volkswagen" SAM systems will do the Russian military is using air power like cruise missiles (used on Freedom Square in Kharkiv) {cruise missiles are old technology they have been around since the 1980's} and planes flying low enough it sort of looks like they are giving an air show to the Ukrainians. There is like a hundred plus countries with SAM systems why doesn't the Free World just give the Ukrainian government the money to buy SAM systems in the open market?

The other thing that the Free World seems to falling down on in giving the Ukrainian military weapons is drones. Yes, the Ukrainian military has drones and the media has shown them as being effective. But is Europe and America getting the Ukrainian military sufficient numbers of drones, it seems doubtful! One sees the media images of the Russian military in Ukraine and there is lines of tanks and trucks that have rocket launchers on them, military experts say that for an opposing army that had good air power that the Russian Army in Ukraine provides a target rich environment. The point here is that if the Ukrainian Army could get more drones that could lessen the imbalance in the war where Russia dwarfs Ukraine in military power because the drones could be used to degrade the Russian military's ability to deliver explosive ordinance on Ukraine cities under military assault by destroying these Russian vehicle weapon systems. It is not like the Free World would have to train up Ukrainian pilots to increase the Ukrainian drone capability, these drone weapons really even the most undeveloped militaries and fighting forces can master this weapon system. The Houthis rebels in Yemen use drone weapons quite effectively, and the Islamic State early in their success used drones in Syria and Iraq and to a large degree and actually used commercially available drone technology!

It was unfortunate the mix up this week where the Ukraine government thought they were going to get Soviet era military planes from European Union countries to help them fight this war against Russia; but one cannot really begrudge these European Union countries because if Ukraine falls to Russia and/or Belarus sends its armed forces into the war on the side of Russia which is a real possibility depending on Russia's need as determined by Vladimir Putin these European Union countries are going to need every plane they have to defend their own people. Looking at this problem one could break it down as such; one really good thing is that Ukraine has a significant number of fighter pilots that have the experience to fly combat planes but government just needs the fighter planes. How about those dozens of combat planes flown out of the country of Afghanistan six months ago when Afghanistan fell to the Taliban and the Afghanistan pilots flew their planes out of the country so they wouldn't have been killed by the Taliban. Technically these planes were given to the Afghanistan government by the U.S. government for such government to defend the people of Afghanistan since the Afghanistan government is no more the agreement for transferring the planes should be null and void and so the U.S. should be free to transfer the planes to Ukraine. Ukraine needs combat planes this war caused by Russia is slowing the world's economic recovery from the Covid 19 pandemic more specifically it is costing the world tens if not hundreds of billions of dollars cannot the free world find a decent bank roll and give it to their intelligent services to buy combat planes that need money more than they need combat planes and give the planes to the Ukrainian government, the sooner the world can bring this Russian invasion war to an end the sooner it can get things to a reasonable sense of normalcy and that will be dramatically better for the world economy.

From an outsiders point of view watching the performance of the Ukrainian military and security forces in trying to fight against the Russian invasion one question arises why do Ukrainians leave their country's bridges intact when they lose territory to the Russian Army it seems like Defense 101 that Ukraine would wire major bridge's with explosives and when they are on the verge of losing the territory where the bridge is at to the Russians blow-up the bridge so the Russians cannot use it. This is especially the case in the south, Russia clearly has as its goal to deny the Ukrainian people access to the Black Sea which will strangle the Ukrainian economy because the Ukraine economy depends on exports that are funneled thru the Black Sea and in order to do this Russia has to take a lot of territory on the southern coast of Ukraine and along this coast there is a lot of tributaries which have bridges that cross them. If the bridges are destroyed it majorly hurts Russian supply lines. Many people believe that if worst comes to worst for the Ukrainian people they can win this war through a tenacious insurgency, destroying bridges in Russian controlled territory would be a major step for the Ukrainian insurgency in turning the tide in the war, isolate Russian units, one would think it would be the Ukrainian militaries top priority to blow the bridges before it loses the territory. One of America's preeminent Generals, General David Petraeus, who lead America's forces during the Iraq war when that war was in a stalemate and America was doing a large force and resource surge into Iraq and ultimately brought that war to a successful resolution and has the reputation as having essentially written the U.S. military manual in combating an insurgency says that Russia cannot win this war if the Ukrainian put up a permanent firm resistance. General Petraeus says Russia can take the ground in Ukraine but cannot hold it the Russian Army does not have number of forces in Ukraine to hold the Ukrainian territory against a tenacious resistance.

This writer has no military background so I am a sofa general so probably these following comments are stupid but I mention it because there doesn't seem like there is any answers to the following problem. Ukraine has this forty mile Russia mechanized column with the column's front at the Capital city, Kyiv's, gate. Most people think that in the next few days Russia is going to encircle Kyiv with the spectrum of weapon systems from the column and essentially level the city thereby largely wiping out the city's resistance so the Russians can then take Kyiv. The common consensus throughout the world is that Ukraine cannot do anything about this. Of course there is no easy battlefield strategy for the Ukrainian military to combat this. One would like to see the Ukrainian military do something more than wait until after Kyiv is turned into rubble help the remaining fighter fight block by block to hold off the Russians. If the Ukrainian military pulls up artillery guns from south of Kyiv to the city to try to degrade the encircling Russian guns on the city those Russian guns will turn on them along with Russia's airpower and will take these Ukrainian artillery units out in like one hours time once spotted which will happen once they commence firing upon the Russians. But how about if the Ukrainians used back hoes and cranes to dig like three stories deep trenches like twenty-five feet wide and forty yards long. The Ukrainian artillery units could back the artillery gun to the back of the trench to fire a few waves of shells and then roll it to the front of the trench and use the surrounding soil of the trench as a protective barrier against incoming Russian shells and rockets. Well at least maybe the Ukrainian units would have a battlefield life-span longer than thirty minutes!

After seeing the Russian army with its crack head troops, 45% of their armor destroyed, their advanced clown tactics and knowing nukes have a shelf life. I would bitch slap them back to yesterday then fly in Joe and Milly, get a good bitch slappin going on. What do ya think Milly?
' Love it!. Can I be the abused Black man this time?'
' Now Milly you know it's Joe's turn.'
'Gee I'm sorry I guess I'm the bitch again.'
'Yes you are!'

 

[miketx]

After seeing the Russian army with its crack head troops, 45% of their armor destroyed, their advanced clown tactics and knowing nukes have a shelf life. I would bitch slap them back to yesterday then fly in Joe and Milly, get a good bitch slappin going on. What do ya think Milly?
' Love it!. Can I be the abused Black man this time?'
' Now Milly you know it's Joe's turn.'
'Gee I'm sorry I guess I'm the bitch again.'
'Yes you are!'

Media fed.

 

[justoffal]

Media fed.

It looks like Russia planned on Long War of attrition as a plan B. The decapitation strike was never worth the effort it was too costly. But now that they've settled in to a perimeter of total artillery decimation Ukraine is losing 400 to 500 soldiers a day.

 

[Ringo]

A criminal case against the commander of the company of the military unit A-2802 of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Lieutenant Oleg Tkachenko, was initiated by Russian investigators for the murder of civilians in Ukraine, the Investigative Committee of Russia reported on its website on June 10.

He is accused of "ill-treatment of the civilian population, the use of prohibited means and methods in an armed conflict."

According to the TFR, the positions of the A-2802 military unit under the command of Tkachenko were located in Mariupol for a long time. From the end of February to March 28 of this year, he repeatedly gave orders to kill local residents detained for document verification. As a result, in violation of the requirements of the Convention on the Protection of Civilians in Time of War (Geneva, 12.08.1949), at least 25 people were shot by order of Tkachenko.

In addition, he ordered to mine the path along which the locals walked and install a "tripwire" on it. After some time, a resident of the city blew himself up at this place, received a fatal wound, investigators indicate.

The agency reports that the Ukrainian military, who, by order of Tkachenko, installed a "tripwire", was soon killed during the fighting.

Read the entire article at the link:

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Уголовное дело в отношении командира роты войсковой части А-2802 ВСУ лейтенанта Олега Ткаченко за убийство мирных жителей Украины возбудили российские следователи, сообщает Следственный комитет России (СКР) 10 июня на своем сайте.

rossaprimavera.ru

 

[GLASNOST]

A criminal case against the commander of the company of the military unit A-2802 of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Lieutenant Oleg Tkachenko, was initiated by Russian investigators for the murder of civilians in Ukraine, the Investigative Committee of Russia reported on its website on June 10.

He is accused of "ill-treatment of the civilian population, the use of prohibited means and methods in an armed conflict."

According to the TFR, the positions of the A-2802 military unit under the command of Tkachenko were located in Mariupol for a long time. From the end of February to March 28 of this year, he repeatedly gave orders to kill local residents detained for document verification. As a result, in violation of the requirements of the Convention on the Protection of Civilians in Time of War (Geneva, 12.08.1949), at least 25 people were shot by order of Tkachenko.

In addition, he ordered to mine the path along which the locals walked and install a "tripwire" on it. After some time, a resident of the city blew himself up at this place, received a fatal wound, investigators indicate.

The agency reports that the Ukrainian military, who, by order of Tkachenko, installed a "tripwire", was soon killed during the fighting.

Read the entire article at the link:

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Уголовное дело в отношении командира роты войсковой части А-2802 ВСУ лейтенанта Олега Ткаченко за убийство мирных жителей Украины возбудили российские следователи, сообщает Следственный комитет России (СКР) 10 июня на своем сайте.

rossaprimavera.ru

B-b-b-b-but the whole knows the Ukraine are the good guys!

 

[Ringo]

 

[Ringo]

"Ukraine has already done a lot for the rule of law," Ursula von der Leyen

 

[Rigby5]

After seeing the Russian army with its crack head troops, 45% of their armor destroyed, their advanced clown tactics and knowing nukes have a shelf life. I would bitch slap them back to yesterday then fly in Joe and Milly, get a good bitch slappin going on. What do ya think Milly?
' Love it!. Can I be the abused Black man this time?'
' Now Milly you know it's Joe's turn.'
'Gee I'm sorry I guess I'm the bitch again.'
'Yes you are!'

Less than 5% of Russia's tanks have been destroyed, and those are mostly old T-72s they deliberately sacrificed.
Nukes have an almost unlimited shelf life, as there are no electronic components since the radiation would destroy electronics.
And Russia has an over 10 to 1 advantage over NATO in nukes.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Less than 5% of Russia's tanks have been destroyed, and those are mostly old T-72s they deliberately sacrificed.
Nukes have an almost unlimited shelf life, as there are no electronic components since the radiation would destroy electronics.
And Russia has an over 10 to 1 advantage over NATO in nukes.

Wrong and more wrong.

Over 90% of their modern first line tanks have been destroyed and they are being routed.


Radiation does not harm electronics you moron. Electromagnetic radiation can damage electronics but nukes do not generate or emit Electromagnetic radiation until they are detonated. All nukes incorporate electronics in their design

Furthermore they do not have a ten to one advantage. They have close to the same number of nukes as the US on the other hand France and the UK have their own arsenals which when added to the US gives NATO a greater number of nukes.

As alwways you are making stuff up as you go and you are a fucking fool

 

[Ringo]

As a result of the shelling of Donetsk by ukrainian nazis, at least 13 civilians were killed and many wounded at a public transport stop on Baku Commissars Square.

 

[GLASNOST]

As a result of the shelling of Donetsk by ukrainian nazis, at least 13 civilians were killed and many wounded at a public transport stop on Baku Commissars Square.

Are those NoKrainiums still playing with guns?

 

[Ringo]

News from the fascist state.
A memorial plaque to the Hero of the Soviet Union, General Dmitry Karbyshev, was dismantled in Kiev.

But at the opera house in the same Kiev there is a memorial plaque to the author of a leaflet with an order to all Jews to come to Babi Yar...
In the fascist state, they do everything right for their plan - formatting and reprogramming consciousness with the destruction of soviet heritage is a guarantee that the new ukrainian will think in the right, pro-western, fascist way. The task is to create a loyal citizen, who will not doubt the correctness of politics and the surrounding reality.

About General Karbyshev:
Dmitry Mikhaylovich Karbyshev October 26 [O.S. October 14] 1880, Omsk — 18 February 1945, Mauthausen, Austria) was an officer of the Russian Imperial Army, a Red Army general, professor of the Soviet General Staff Academy (Doctor of Military Sciences), and Hero of the Soviet Union (posthumously).

In early June 1941, Karbyshev was sent on the inspection trip to Western Special Military District. On June 27, 1941, the army became surrounded and eventually destroyed during the Battle of Białystok–Minsk. In August 1941, Karbyshev suffered from post-concussion syndrome in combat at the Dnieper River and while unconscious was captured by the Nazis.
Karbyshev was held at a succession of concentration camps, including Hammelburg, Flossenbürg, Majdanek, Auschwitz, Sachsenhausen and, in February 1945, Mauthausen. Refusing repeated offers from the Nazis to solicit his cooperation, and despite his advanced age, he was one of the most active leaders of the camp resistance movement.
On the night of 17 February 1945, he was one of 500 prisoners undressed, doused with cold water and left to expire in the frost. According to the literary testimony of a camp survivor, Karbyshev stayed upright facing his executioners and shouted encouragements to his fellow prisoners.

 

[GLASNOST]

News from the fascist state.
A memorial plaque to the Hero of the Soviet Union, General Dmitry Karbyshev, was dismantled in Kiev.

But at the opera house in the same Kiev there is a memorial plaque to the author of a leaflet with an order to all Jews to come to Babi Yar...
In the fascist state, they do everything right for their plan - formatting and reprogramming consciousness with the destruction of soviet heritage is a guarantee that the new ukrainian will think in the right, pro-western, fascist way. The task is to create a loyal citizen, who will not doubt the correctness of politics and the surrounding reality.

About General Karbyshev:
Dmitry Mikhaylovich Karbyshev October 26 [O.S. October 14] 1880, Omsk — 18 February 1945, Mauthausen, Austria) was an officer of the Russian Imperial Army, a Red Army general, professor of the Soviet General Staff Academy (Doctor of Military Sciences), and Hero of the Soviet Union (posthumously).

In early June 1941, Karbyshev was sent on the inspection trip to Western Special Military District. On June 27, 1941, the army became surrounded and eventually destroyed during the Battle of Białystok–Minsk. In August 1941, Karbyshev suffered from post-concussion syndrome in combat at the Dnieper River and while unconscious was captured by the Nazis.
Karbyshev was held at a succession of concentration camps, including Hammelburg, Flossenbürg, Majdanek, Auschwitz, Sachsenhausen and, in February 1945, Mauthausen. Refusing repeated offers from the Nazis to solicit his cooperation, and despite his advanced age, he was one of the most active leaders of the camp resistance movement.
On the night of 17 February 1945, he was one of 500 prisoners undressed, doused with cold water and left to expire in the frost. According to the literary testimony of a camp survivor, Karbyshev stayed upright facing his executioners and shouted encouragements to his fellow prisoners.

Zelensky must be ousted. Let him go to the US and play with himself for the rest of his life. Well, it'll be a short life because eventually he'll be attributed to American treachery and the Yankees will have to do away with him (just like they did with the Shah) before the scandal gains too much momentum.

 

[AZrailwhale]

The reason for the war is also lacking almost entirely. The mainstream media conveniently ignores 10 years of atrocities being committed in Ukraine against Russian speaking citizens.

That has nothing to do with this war. This war is all about Russian control of the Black Sea and the naval base at Sevastopol. It’s like if the US leased a vital naval base at the south end of Baja California that drew all its water, supplies and utilities from Mexico and Mexico became hostile to the US. The US would want to secure land access to its base that couldn’t be interrupted by the Mexicans to put pressure on the US. If you look at the areas Russia has invaded, conquered and now annexed in Ukraine, you can see that is what is going on here.

 

[GLASNOST]

That has nothing to do with this war. This war is all about Russian control of the Black Sea and the naval base at Sevastopol. It’s like if the US leased a vital naval base at the south end of Baja California that drew all its water, supplies and utilities from Mexico and Mexico became hostile to the US. The US would want to secure land access to its base that couldn’t be interrupted by the Mexicans to put pressure on the US. If you look at the areas Russia has invaded, conquered and now annexed in Ukraine, you can see that is what is going on here.

I can see that you rely solely on your MSM fake-news propaganda.

 

[AZrailwhale]

GLASNOST

I can see that you rely solely on your MSM fake-news propaganda.

No, I can read a map. Russia insisted on keeping possession of Sevastopol when the USSR broke up, so Ukraine leased it to them. All this crap from Russia started when Ukraine ousted its pro-Russian, appeasing president and openly opposed Russia and started making appeals to join the EU. Russia has been the prime mover in all the unrest in the area. It has been caught sending “Volunteer” troops into the areas it wants. Remember all the “little green men”?

 

[GLASNOST]

GLASNOST
.... Russia insisted on keeping possession of Sevastopol when the USSR broke up ...

Of course. The US sent in the marines when Panama wanted to nationalize the canal, didn't it?

..... Russia ... has been caught sending “Volunteer” troops into the areas it wants.

And this upsets you, huh? I'l bet you don't mind the "volunteer" foreigners in Ukraine uniform, eh?

 

[AZrailwhale]

Of course. The US sent in the marines when Panama wanted to nationalize the canal, didn't it?



And this upsets you, huh? I'l bet you don't mind the "volunteer" foreigners in Ukraine uniform, eh?

The Russian "little green men" are active duty Russian army. The volunteers helping the Ukrainians are civilians, mostly veterans of various western armies. Just like the "volunteers" of the Condor Legion were Luftwaffe personnel and the "volunteers" the Russians sent to fight on the republican side of the Spanish Civil war were Red Army personnel. The American, French and English men who went to fight there were civilian volunteers. Look up the Abraham, Lincoln Brigade for examples.

 

[GLASNOST]

The Russian "little green men" are active duty Russian army. The volunteers helping the Ukrainians are civilians, mostly veterans of various western armies. Just like the "volunteers" of the Condor Legion were Luftwaffe personnel and the "volunteers" the Russians sent to fight on the republican side of the Spanish Civil war were Red Army personnel. The American, French and English men who went to fight there were civilian volunteers. Look up the Abraham, Lincoln Brigade for examples.

How many "gringos" did you send to Texas?