Zone1 How big is your interest in the Religions of this world?

[ding]

The process or events which make up what we call God exist independent of men. Men’s minds make this process manifest but the process is independent of man’s manifestation of the process.

God isn’t a process or a thing. Not only does God exist independent of man God is the source or matrix of the material world providing reality to all places at all times.

According to you your perception of God does not exist until men exist. So according to you your perception of God is dependent on men.

This is really weird because you are showing you need for God to exist but only on your terms. It’s almost as if you are unconsciously revolting against your atheism but consciously can bear to let go of it.

 

[alang1216]

That applies to you too

The difference between us is that I want to find out what I don't know.

 

[alang1216]

God isn’t a process or a thing. Not only does God exist independent of man God is the source or matrix of the material world providing reality to all places at all times.

You state that like it is fact but it is just an opinion.

According to you your perception of God does not exist until men exist. So according to you your perception of God is dependent on men.

Like gravity is dependent on mass and natural selection is dependent on life.

This is really weird because you are showing you need for God to exist but only on your terms. It’s almost as if you are unconsciously revolting against your atheism but consciously can bear to let go of it.

I don't need God but, thanks to Wright, I accept there is a natural force and God is as good a name as any.

 

[ding]

You state that like it is fact but it is just an opinion.


Like gravity is dependent on mass and natural selection is dependent on life.


I don't need God but, thanks to Wright, I accept there is a natural force and God is as good a name as any.

But his perception of God is not a natural force. It’s a figment of his imagination.

 

[ding]

Like gravity is dependent on mass and natural selection is dependent on life.

Nope. I already debunked this.

 

[alang1216]

But his perception of God is not a natural force. It’s a figment of his imagination.

I don't think he'd agree. His understanding of God is that he is a natural force. This force, like other forces, is does not require man's imagination.

 

[alang1216]

Nope. I already debunked this.

Disagreeing or semantic nitpicking is not debunking.

 

[ding]

I don't think he'd agree. His understanding of God is that he is a natural force. This force, like other forces, is does not require man's imagination.

What exactly does this supposed force do and how does it do it?

 

[ding]

Disagreeing or semantic nitpicking is not debunking.

Good thing I didn’t do that.

 

[alang1216]

What exactly does this supposed force do and how does it do it?

It guides/encourages/coerces individual and society behaviors that benefit both. Bad indivdual behavior is punished by society, Bad society behavior is punished by rebellion, conquest, or anarchy.

 

[ding]

It guides/encourages/coerces individual and society behaviors that benefit both. Bad indivdual behavior is punished by society, Bad society behavior is punished by rebellion, conquest, or anarchy.

So according to your perception of God, God is good and moral.

 

[alang1216]

So according to your perception of God, God is good and moral.

Being a force of nature, God is neither good nor bad, moral or immoral.

 

[knuckles]

how big is it?

i am interested in all aspects of them

and you?

I come from a strong Juneau Christian background but find myself drawn toward Buddhism.

 

[knuckles]

I come from a strong Juneau Christian background but find myself drawn toward Buddhism.

Damn phone changes words on me.
Judeau-Christian.....

 

[ding]

Being a force of nature, God is neither good nor bad, moral or immoral.

But according to you, God is a moral force, right?

 

[BULLDOG]

But according to you, God is a moral force, right?

Not the god depicted in the bible. Thar god is mean and petty and hateful.

 

[ding]

Not the god depicted in the bible. Thar god is mean and petty and hateful.

Maybe go back a few pages and follow the discussion. Because I’m more than happy to concede that you see God as mean, petty and hateful.

 

[ding]

I come from a strong Juneau Christian background but find myself drawn toward Buddhism.

Why is that?

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

how big is it?

i am interested in all aspects of them

and you?

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Sorry, I misread. I am greatly interested in my own religion, but it's too stressful to try to figure out the battles other religions fight against one another.

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[ding]

God is the morality and understanding we needed to survived in our societies as they developed.

more like a force of nature that made its appearance once man developed the intelligence to live in complex social groups.

My conception of god is as a natural, fundamental, moral force of all cultures and, as such, is not guided by intelligence.

I believe there is a naturally-occurring, moral force, like natural selection in biology, at work in human cultures.

Sure sounds like you are arguing that your perception of God is moral and good.