BlackAsCoal
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and you ignore that the dems kept BUsh from doing those thingsactually, none of those stories backs your actual claim of Obama moving to the right of Bush
what they DO support is he moved to be the SAME as Bush
YMMV
Oh really ..
Obama, Bush, and the Judicious Use of Hellfire Missiles
When it comes to vaporizing Americans with Hellfire missiles, what's the difference between the Bush administration and the Obama administration? The Bush administration fretted about the legal implications.
If Bush was having Americans killed in Pakistan in 2008, then it's not surprising that President Barack Obama is ordering the CIA to kill American cleric and accused terrorist Anwar Al-Awlaki in Yemen in 2010, right? Not reallythe cases are pretty different. From Woodward's account, it seems clear that the Bush administration was sincerely worried about the potential legal ramifications of killing Americans abroad"the CIA would not reveal the particulars [of the attack] due to the implications under American law."
Much has changed since the Bush administration left office. Two years ago, the CIA was worrying about legal issues surrounding the killing of Americans at an alleged terrorist training camp in Pakistan. Now the Obama administration has apparently put American citizens on a "targeted killing" list.
The drone strikes described in Woodward's book aren't even the first example of the Bush administration worrying about the propriety of something the Obama administration seems comfortable with. Kamal Derwish (aka Ahmed Hijazi), a US citizen and alleged terrorist, was killed by a missile strike in Yemen in November 2002. At the time, US officials were quick to emphasize to reporters that Derwish was not the target of the attack.
By contrast, the Obama administration makes no bones about targeting Al-Awlaki or other US citizens. Dennis Blair, the former Director of National Intelligence, admitted that citizens are targeted for killing in a public congressional hearing in January. On Friday, the government responded to a lawsuit intended to obtain an injunction against killing Al-Awlaki without due process. The lawsuit, which was brought by the American Civil Liberties Union and the Center for Constitutional Rights on behalf of Al-Awlaki's father, Nasser, has little chance of success.
Not sure where "right" is to you brother .. but without question, Obama is to the right of Bush on many foreign policy issues, like his stepped up misssle murders of innocent people in Pakistan .. as well as some domestic issues .. like his attacks on civil liberties.
He is Bush Jr. .. but he's gone even further because unlike Bush, he believes he can get away with it without much critcism.
Guess who else believes that Obama has gone further than Bush?
Bush Officials Praise Obama For Going Further Than Bush in Terror Crackdown
President Barack Obama has finally received praise for his terror policies . . . from Bush officials. Two of the officials commonly named as responsible for allegedly criminal acts during the Bush Administration, former National Intelligence Director retired Vice Admiral Michael McConnel and former Central Intelligence Agency Director Michael Hayden, are heaping praise on Obama for going even farther than George Bush in his policies. Now, there is an ignoble accomplishment.
McConnell is positively gushing with praise that the new administration has been as aggressive, if not more aggressive, in pursing these issues . . . Hayden, who is most often cited for the unlawful surveillance programs under Bush, stated I thank god every day for the continuity shown by Obama in continuing Bushs approach to the law and terror.
President Obama has certainly earned these professional references. He blocked public interest lawsuits in federal court on the unlawful surveillance program while blocking any investigation into torture. Hayden was the direct beneficiary of these policies. It is like Bernie Madoff praising the enforcement policies of the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) that allowed him to thrive in the 1990s. When many of us were stating that Haydens surveillance programs were clearly unlawful, Hayden was insisting that his own lawyers at the NSA had reviewed the program and were satisfied that it was lawful. This was the same tactic used by Bush in selecting biased lawyers to give clearly unsound legal analysis to support unlawful programs. Ultimately, when Haydens program was brought into federal court and faced actual judicial review, Hayden opposed such independent and competent review and Obama ultimately stopped it.
Bush Officials Praise Obama For Going Further Than Bush in Terror Crackdown JONATHAN TURLEY
but they have no problem with obama doing them,
I don't ignore anything and I take democrats to task for their hypocrisy .. just as I take them to task for being anti-BUSH-war, not antiwar.
Hypocrisy and insane policies are not reserved for just republicans.