House Democrats Seek To Limit President's Insurrection Act Authority Through Amendment They Would Have To Violate / Ignore To Limit His Authority

[colfax_m]

So what’s so wrong about reigning in the out of control abuse of power of the executive branch?

It's a power grab.....and they trying to openly give aid to their riot squads, much the way Democrats try to remove the police from the equation by hamstringing them. They can't use riot gear or pepper-spray. An obvious move to render law enforcement ineffective.

Not a power grab. Just reigning in the authority of the executive the way the founders intended.

If there is a branch of government that has abused and expanded their power it is Congress. Taking power from the executive branch = giving power to the legislative. They not just getting rid of this power they are taking it. That is the very definition of a power grab. And I would trust Hiden Bidens coke head kid with power before congress.

Absolutely not. The executive was supposed to be a weak branch, Congress was supposed to be stronger. Decades of weak willed legislatures have passed the power to the executive so that they wouldn’t have to act and has resulted in an executive with far more power than they were intended.

Would be all for limiting the Execs power. But only after congress is fixed. There should not be a single corporate or foreign dollar in congress. Any congressmen that votes in direct and obvious violation of their voters will should be impeached. I mean right now every new tax we have gotten in 20+ years is unconstitutional because CONGRESS HAS NOT REPRESENTED THE PEOPLE. And that is taxation without representation which is a founding principal of our country.

This doesn’t really make any sense. Representatives are elected by the people.

 

[mudwhistle]

So what’s so wrong about reigning in the out of control abuse of power of the executive branch?

It's a power grab.....and they trying to openly give aid to their riot squads, much the way Democrats try to remove the police from the equation by hamstringing them. They can't use riot gear or pepper-spray. An obvious move to render law enforcement ineffective.

Not a power grab. Just reigning in the authority of the executive the way the founders intended.

In other words a power grab.

No, restoring power to the proper place after it had been grabbed.

They gave it up in 1976.
Personally I don't think Congress should be trusted with it because Democrats are causing most of the emergencies now anyway.

 

[justinacolmena]

… require the president and Defense secretary to make a certification to Congress that a state is unwilling or unable to suppress an insurrection in order to invoke the law …

"Require." That's an odd way to put it. It's time for Donald Trump and the U.S. Armed Forces to serve notice on the Democrats and invoke the Insurrection Act no matter what their response is.

The executive was supposed to be a weak branch, Congress was supposed to be stronger.

That's absurd. You're calling for a strong lawmaking body without the strength to "officially" enforce the laws passed.

We need a strong executive. We will not have our country ruled by a hidden dictatorship of the proletariat under the ruthless authority of an organized criminal junta.

 

[Gaeandilth]

So what’s so wrong about reigning in the out of control abuse of power of the executive branch?

It's a power grab.....and they trying to openly give aid to their riot squads, much the way Democrats try to remove the police from the equation by hamstringing them. They can't use riot gear or pepper-spray. An obvious move to render law enforcement ineffective.

Not a power grab. Just reigning in the authority of the executive the way the founders intended.

If there is a branch of government that has abused and expanded their power it is Congress. Taking power from the executive branch = giving power to the legislative. They not just getting rid of this power they are taking it. That is the very definition of a power grab. And I would trust Hiden Bidens coke head kid with power before congress.

Absolutely not. The executive was supposed to be a weak branch, Congress was supposed to be stronger. Decades of weak willed legislatures have passed the power to the executive so that they wouldn’t have to act and has resulted in an executive with far more power than they were intended.

Would be all for limiting the Execs power. But only after congress is fixed. There should not be a single corporate or foreign dollar in congress. Any congressmen that votes in direct and obvious violation of their voters will should be impeached. I mean right now every new tax we have gotten in 20+ years is unconstitutional because CONGRESS HAS NOT REPRESENTED THE PEOPLE. And that is taxation without representation which is a founding principal of our country.

This doesn’t really make any sense. Representatives are elected by the people.

Might be elected by the people but it is usually under false pretenses. And even if it is a fresh congressman they will soon fall into line with the rest or Nazi Nancy or Chucky will set them straight. Republicans not that much better but at least there is some free thought in the republican side. And have you seen how the Democrat primaries work? You know what they super delegate system is? It is a way for them to steal power from their own damn voters. You get voted in for one thing then vote against it how is that representing the people?

 

[colfax_m]

So what’s so wrong about reigning in the out of control abuse of power of the executive branch?

It's a power grab.....and they trying to openly give aid to their riot squads, much the way Democrats try to remove the police from the equation by hamstringing them. They can't use riot gear or pepper-spray. An obvious move to render law enforcement ineffective.

Not a power grab. Just reigning in the authority of the executive the way the founders intended.

If there is a branch of government that has abused and expanded their power it is Congress. Taking power from the executive branch = giving power to the legislative. They not just getting rid of this power they are taking it. That is the very definition of a power grab. And I would trust Hiden Bidens coke head kid with power before congress.

Absolutely not. The executive was supposed to be a weak branch, Congress was supposed to be stronger. Decades of weak willed legislatures have passed the power to the executive so that they wouldn’t have to act and has resulted in an executive with far more power than they were intended.

Would be all for limiting the Execs power. But only after congress is fixed. There should not be a single corporate or foreign dollar in congress. Any congressmen that votes in direct and obvious violation of their voters will should be impeached. I mean right now every new tax we have gotten in 20+ years is unconstitutional because CONGRESS HAS NOT REPRESENTED THE PEOPLE. And that is taxation without representation which is a founding principal of our country.

This doesn’t really make any sense. Representatives are elected by the people.

Might be elected by the people but it is usually under false pretenses. And even if it is a fresh congressman they will soon fall into line with the rest or Nazi Nancy or Chucky will set them straight. Republicans not that much better but at least there is some free thought in the republican side. And have you seen how the Democrat primaries work? You know what they super delegate system is? It is a way for them to steal power from their own damn voters. You get voted in for one thing then vote against it how is that representing the people?

So if it’s under false pretenses, why aren’t they voted out the next election after they have a demonstrated record?

 

[colfax_m]

That's absurd. You're calling for a strong lawmaking body without the strength to "officially" enforce the laws passed.

We need a strong executive. We will not have our country ruled by a hidden dictatorship of the proletariat under the ruthless authority of an organized criminal junta.

The Congress is not a hidden dictatorship

 

[justinacolmena]

The Congress is not a hidden dictatorship

The President's duty is to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed."

Congress passes far too many laws with the expectation of weak and selective enforcement, and favoritism to their foreign donors and organized criminal political cronies.

Strong lawmaking with a weak execution or implementation does nothing for us.

The Constitution itself, together with "the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States" is the SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND.

 

[colfax_m]

The Congress is not a hidden dictatorship

The President's duty is to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed."

Congress passes far too many laws with the expectation of weak and selective enforcement, and favoritism to their foreign donors and organized criminal political cronies.

Strong lawmaking with a weak execution or implementation does nothing for us.

The Constitution itself, together with "the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States" is the SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND.

This isn’t a fight about executing laws as passed by Congress by rather delegation of making law from Congress to the president.

 

[justinacolmena]

This isn’t a fight about executing laws as passed by Congress

The Constitution is the Supreme law of the land. "Laws as passed by Congress" but not in pursuance of the Constitution, or international Treaties made, but not under authority of the U.S. executive, are null and void.

by rather delegation of making law from Congress to the president

The Constitution itself is what properly delegates all "powers that be" in the United States.

 

[colfax_m]

This isn’t a fight about executing laws as passed by Congress

The Constitution is the Supreme law of the land. "Laws as passed by Congress" but not in pursuance of the Constitution, or international Treaties made, but not under authority of the U.S. executive, are null and void.

by rather delegation of making law from Congress to the president

The Constitution itself is what properly delegates all "powers that be" in the United States.

The constitution does not prevent Congress from delegating authority to the executive.

 

[mudwhistle]

So what’s so wrong about reigning in the out of control abuse of power of the executive branch?

It's a power grab.....and they trying to openly give aid to their riot squads, much the way Democrats try to remove the police from the equation by hamstringing them. They can't use riot gear or pepper-spray. An obvious move to render law enforcement ineffective.

Not a power grab. Just reigning in the authority of the executive the way the founders intended.

If there is a branch of government that has abused and expanded their power it is Congress. Taking power from the executive branch = giving power to the legislative. They not just getting rid of this power they are taking it. That is the very definition of a power grab. And I would trust Hiden Bidens coke head kid with power before congress.

Absolutely not. The executive was supposed to be a weak branch, Congress was supposed to be stronger. Decades of weak willed legislatures have passed the power to the executive so that they wouldn’t have to act and has resulted in an executive with far more power than they were intended.

Would be all for limiting the Execs power. But only after congress is fixed. There should not be a single corporate or foreign dollar in congress. Any congressmen that votes in direct and obvious violation of their voters will should be impeached. I mean right now every new tax we have gotten in 20+ years is unconstitutional because CONGRESS HAS NOT REPRESENTED THE PEOPLE. And that is taxation without representation which is a founding principal of our country.

This doesn’t really make any sense. Representatives are elected by the people.

Might be elected by the people but it is usually under false pretenses. And even if it is a fresh congressman they will soon fall into line with the rest or Nazi Nancy or Chucky will set them straight. Republicans not that much better but at least there is some free thought in the republican side. And have you seen how the Democrat primaries work? You know what they super delegate system is? It is a way for them to steal power from their own damn voters. You get voted in for one thing then vote against it how is that representing the people?

Lying is a great weapon in politics when you have a corrupt media that repeats your lies like they're the truth.

 

[mudwhistle]

So what’s so wrong about reigning in the out of control abuse of power of the executive branch?

It's a power grab.....and they trying to openly give aid to their riot squads, much the way Democrats try to remove the police from the equation by hamstringing them. They can't use riot gear or pepper-spray. An obvious move to render law enforcement ineffective.

Not a power grab. Just reigning in the authority of the executive the way the founders intended.

If there is a branch of government that has abused and expanded their power it is Congress. Taking power from the executive branch = giving power to the legislative. They not just getting rid of this power they are taking it. That is the very definition of a power grab. And I would trust Hiden Bidens coke head kid with power before congress.

Absolutely not. The executive was supposed to be a weak branch, Congress was supposed to be stronger. Decades of weak willed legislatures have passed the power to the executive so that they wouldn’t have to act and has resulted in an executive with far more power than they were intended.

Would be all for limiting the Execs power. But only after congress is fixed. There should not be a single corporate or foreign dollar in congress. Any congressmen that votes in direct and obvious violation of their voters will should be impeached. I mean right now every new tax we have gotten in 20+ years is unconstitutional because CONGRESS HAS NOT REPRESENTED THE PEOPLE. And that is taxation without representation which is a founding principal of our country.

This doesn’t really make any sense. Representatives are elected by the people.

Might be elected by the people but it is usually under false pretenses. And even if it is a fresh congressman they will soon fall into line with the rest or Nazi Nancy or Chucky will set them straight. Republicans not that much better but at least there is some free thought in the republican side. And have you seen how the Democrat primaries work? You know what they super delegate system is? It is a way for them to steal power from their own damn voters. You get voted in for one thing then vote against it how is that representing the people?

So if it’s under false pretenses, why aren’t they voted out the next election after they have a demonstrated record?

Sometimes they do.....but then the person that replaces them is more radical and a bigger liar than the person they're replacing.

 

[justinacolmena]

The constitution does not prevent Congress from delegating authority to the executive.

>>> The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;—<<<
When the courts exercise a jurisdiction foreign to the Constitution and Authority of the United States, and the laws they enforce from the bench are neither in pursuance of the U.S. Constitution, nor under authority of the U.S. executive, we find ourselves at war against such a court system, and we discover by and by, they don't play by the same rules they expect us to follow in the deadness of the letter of the law.

 

[JustAGuy1]

That's absurd. You're calling for a strong lawmaking body without the strength to "officially" enforce the laws passed.

We need a strong executive. We will not have our country ruled by a hidden dictatorship of the proletariat under the ruthless authority of an organized criminal junta.

The Congress is not a hidden dictatorship

Nancy's got it right out in the open.