Hospitals and patients benefiting from Obamacare, and maybe even taxpayers!

Ravi

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Even as Obamacare continues to be attacked by foes and challenged in court, hospital chains and insurers are making more money, more patients using ERs are paying for their care, and the country as a whole is enjoying slower growth in its health-care spending.

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Taxpayers too may be benefiting from the law approved in 2010. Medicare spending rose by just $1 per beneficiary in 2013, the fourth year in a row that saw a slowdown, the government reported yesterday.

Obamacare Dividends Pile Up for Hospitals as Patients Pay - Bloomberg

^bad news for Republicans
 
^bad news for Republicans

Of course Obamacare works, socialism is an elixir that fixes all problems with no pain. Don't exercise, eat ice cream for dinner, look like a body builder. That's what socialism does for liberty, the economy, truth, justice and the American way. Didn't you know that?

Oh, I forgot you have to wear the magic glasses and take LSD...
 
Oh I'm sure its doing some good for those subsidized by we the taxpayer.

They should ask the folks paying those high deductable's and those paying more for their employee benefits how its working for em.
 
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^bad news for Republicans

Of course Obamacare works, socialism is an elixir that fixes all problems with no pain. Don't exercise, eat ice cream for dinner, look like a body builder. That's what socialism does for liberty, the economy, truth, justice and the American way. Didn't you know that?

Oh, I forgot you have to wear the magic glasses and take LSD...
Not my problem that you're fat. :eusa_hand:
 
"Slower growth" is not what was promised.

Bait and switch.

Obstructionists often spoil things.

Hey, you can always sue!

Bullshit. It isn't the GOP that is keeping the ACA from bending the cost curve down. It is the institutionalizing of things like employer-sponsored health insurance which is doing that. Instead of rooting out this festering problem which bends the cost curve upward, the Democrats more deeply embedded it as a giant sop to the impotent labor unions. The ACA was not about real reform. It was about buying votes at the expense of the country.
 
^bad news for Republicans

Of course Obamacare works, socialism is an elixir that fixes all problems with no pain. Don't exercise, eat ice cream for dinner, look like a body builder. That's what socialism does for liberty, the economy, truth, justice and the American way. Didn't you know that?

Oh, I forgot you have to wear the magic glasses and take LSD...

You're a worthless government tit sucking analyst contractor, of course you are pissed when government cuts cost. You're lies lend you zero credibility.
 
Obamacare is slowing healthcare inflation & increasing Doctors graduating med school. But it could be much better.

The company I worked for 15 years ago was paying $255 a month per employee. 45% was charged to employees like me. The corporate officers who was in charge of selecting our insurance got season tickets for front row seats at every major stadium in the city plus free meals at the finest restaurants in the area all courtesy of our insurance company. The CEO was likely in on the action as well. When I left that place & bought my own insurance I was paying 80% less.

My personal HSA insurance is 75% less than average workplace insurance. It's high deductible keeps the insurance company out from between me & my doctor unless something major & expensive happens. I also pay my insurance company directly keeping an employer & government out from between me & my insurance company.

The employer only mandate should simply make employers pay $135 a week tax free to all employees working more than 30 hours. It would remain tax free if the employee puts it into their HSA account or buys insurance, otherwise they get taxed on it. That would keep employers out of healthcare, thus lowering cost.

People who buy insurance through the exchange puts government & insurance company between patients & doctors. One or the other would be better than both.
 
^bad news for Republicans

Of course Obamacare works, socialism is an elixir that fixes all problems with no pain. Don't exercise, eat ice cream for dinner, look like a body builder. That's what socialism does for liberty, the economy, truth, justice and the American way. Didn't you know that?

Oh, I forgot you have to wear the magic glasses and take LSD...

You're a worthless government tit sucking analyst contractor, of course you are pissed when government cuts cost. You're lies lend you zero credibility.

LOL, you're seriously tripping, dude.
 
^bad news for Republicans

Of course Obamacare works, socialism is an elixir that fixes all problems with no pain. Don't exercise, eat ice cream for dinner, look like a body builder. That's what socialism does for liberty, the economy, truth, justice and the American way. Didn't you know that?

Oh, I forgot you have to wear the magic glasses and take LSD...
Not my problem that you're fat. :eusa_hand:

That's about as close as a liberal can come to trying to read as it's going to get, so let's go with that.
 
"Slower growth" is not what was promised.

Bait and switch.

Obstructionists often spoil things.

Hey, you can always sue!

Bullshit. It isn't the GOP that is keeping the ACA from bending the cost curve down. It is the institutionalizing of things like employer-sponsored health insurance which is doing that. Instead of rooting out this festering problem which bends the cost curve upward, the Democrats more deeply embedded it as a giant sop to the impotent labor unions. The ACA was not about real reform. It was about buying votes at the expense of the country.

It had nothing to do with buying votes. It was a real attempt to bring about some positive changes in our healthcare system. You are correct about one of the biggest problems though, and that is forcing even more employers into the business of providing health insurance.
 
Clinton actually lowered healthcare cost. Bush exploded healthcare cost. Obamacare is slowing healthcare inflation, but it needs to do more to reduce it.

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Hate to put a fly in your soup, but read this:

OBAMACARE BRINGING INSURERS, HOSPITALS BIG PROFITS

What? How can this be?

I thought the whole purpose was to provide everybody with affordable care and do away with those blood-sucking, inhuman big healthcare entities.

This originally came from Breitbart, but as the lefties instantly discredit it, I went to the Bloomberg/Yahoo link for the story @ http://finance.yahoo.com/news/obamacare-dividends-pile-hospitals-patients-040001148.html
 
Even as Obamacare continues to be attacked by foes and challenged in court, hospital chains and insurers are making more money, more patients using ERs are paying for their care, and the country as a whole is enjoying slower growth in its health-care spending.

...

Taxpayers too may be benefiting from the law approved in 2010. Medicare spending rose by just $1 per beneficiary in 2013, the fourth year in a row that saw a slowdown, the government reported yesterday.

Obamacare Dividends Pile Up for Hospitals as Patients Pay - Bloomberg

^bad news for Republicans

Talk to any doctor and ask him/her how Obamacare is going.
Next time you're in with your shrink - ask.
 
Even as Obamacare continues to be attacked by foes and challenged in court, hospital chains and insurers are making more money, more patients using ERs are paying for their care, and the country as a whole is enjoying slower growth in its health-care spending.

...

Taxpayers too may be benefiting from the law approved in 2010. Medicare spending rose by just $1 per beneficiary in 2013, the fourth year in a row that saw a slowdown, the government reported yesterday.

Obamacare Dividends Pile Up for Hospitals as Patients Pay - Bloomberg

^bad news for Republicans

Talk to any doctor and ask him/her how Obamacare is going.
Next time you're in with your shrink - ask.
I did! He wrote a few things in his notebook and asked me why I talk to rightwingloons on the internet. Then he said, time's up! See you next week.
 
Hate to put a fly in your soup, but read this:

OBAMACARE BRINGING INSURERS, HOSPITALS BIG PROFITS

What? How can this be?

I thought the whole purpose was to provide everybody with affordable care and do away with those blood-sucking, inhuman big healthcare entities.

This originally came from Breitbart, but as the lefties instantly discredit it, I went to the Bloomberg/Yahoo link for the story @ http://finance.yahoo.com/news/obamacare-dividends-pile-hospitals-patients-040001148.html

You can not be surprised, every end result of a liberal policy is the exact opposite of the stated intent.
 
^bad news for Republicans

Of course Obamacare works, socialism is an elixir that fixes all problems with no pain. Don't exercise, eat ice cream for dinner, look like a body builder. That's what socialism does for liberty, the economy, truth, justice and the American way. Didn't you know that?

Oh, I forgot you have to wear the magic glasses and take LSD...



insurance companies charging customers/customers paying for service = socialism ?


you're seriously stupid aren't you ?
 
Even as Obamacare continues to be attacked by foes and challenged in court, hospital chains and insurers are making more money, more patients using ERs are paying for their care, and the country as a whole is enjoying slower growth in its health-care spending.

...

Taxpayers too may be benefiting from the law approved in 2010. Medicare spending rose by just $1 per beneficiary in 2013, the fourth year in a row that saw a slowdown, the government reported yesterday.

Obamacare Dividends Pile Up for Hospitals as Patients Pay - Bloomberg

^bad news for Republicans

Survey: Fewer than 1 in 5 better off because of Obamacare; many more worse off | WashingtonExaminer.com

^bad news for America
 

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