Hospital Won't Back Obama Birth Claim

[Bass v 2.0]

You won't think so when it's proven he wasn't eligible...

So what do you think about this moron?



Hawaii again declares Obama birth certificate real - Yahoo! News

http://www.usmessageboard.com/1374820-post58.html

lol, didn't realize that.

 

[007]

and since he has a valid HI COLB, that wont ever happen

Well, it's already been established long ago, a Hawaiian certification of live birth issued in 1961 doesn't prove spit, especially where you were born.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/1349459-post440.html

Oh sheeeezuz... please Emma... tell me you're not dumb enough to site wiki as a source of information...

 

[007]

Well it all has been settled now so you rightwing nutjobs looking for anything to deny this black man the presidency can now shut the hell up and quit acting like delusional monkeys:

And there you have it.... RIGHT THERE is part of the problem. The powers to be, "our government," know that if it is ever established that obama was NOT eligible to be President, or senator for that matter, you want to hear CONSPIRACY! Shit the blacks in this country will NEVER believe it, even if the prove is indisputable. They'll riot to the point of throwing this country into anarchy. The blacks and the whites will suffer a race relations set back clear to the Civil War. You think our government wants that? **** no they don't. They no more want to see proof of where obama was born than the man in the moon does. Problem is, this issue is NOT going away. It's just getting bigger. I heard on the news last night that now 49.7% of the COUNTRY thinks obama should release his birth certificate, and the number grows bigger every day. So you people here that think this is a non issue, it will soon be YOU who is the MINORITY. We who want this issue resolved, we who want to see this damn real birth certificate we hear so much about, WE WILL BE HEARD, WE WILL HAVE OUR DAY. And you better hope and pray we're all wrong.

 

[Care4all]

You won't think so when it's proven he wasn't eligible...

and since he has a valid HI COLB, that wont ever happen

Well, it's already been established long ago, a Hawaiian certification of live birth issued in 1961 doesn't prove spit, especially where you were born.

Is there a spot on the Original Birth Certificate that allows the State to put ANOTHER FOREIGN place of Birth on it back in 1961?

NO, THERE IS NOT.

So, there is NOTHING AT ALL on the original birth certificate that could prove that Obama was born elsewhere.

YOU or some other person believing this, posted a birth certificate from the time, and there was no slot or line on the form where one could have both Kenya and honolulu as birth place.

THERE IS NOTHING at all on the original birth certificate that would show the birth place, any other place but Hawaii?

The Department of Health also SAID that if the short form says Honolulu, then the LONG form says Honolulu as birth place...they don't haphazzardly get to choose what to put on the short form, it is computer generated COPY of the information on the original copy.

From all of the lengthy and I mean LENGTHY research on this the form you are looking for is called a Certification of Citizenship, which was issued to foreign born babies of American citizens.

John McCain's birth certificate does NOT list the mother's town as his birth place, it states Panama....yet, he is still a citizen according to our laws....and has a certification of citizenship form.

Obama's BIRTH certificate if he were born overseas, would list Kenya...yet still be a citizen of the united states through naturalization and have a certification of citizenship form..

Foreign born babies WERE NOT EVER issued Birth Certificates for the State of Hawaii or Certifications of Live Births for the State of Hawaii back in 1961 AS YOU KEEP CLAIMING....I spent hours researching such and it is simply NOT TRUE....

care

 

[007]

and since he has a valid HI COLB, that wont ever happen

Well, it's already been established long ago, a Hawaiian certification of live birth issued in 1961 doesn't prove spit, especially where you were born.

Is there a spot on the Original Birth Certificate that allows the State to put ANOTHER FOREIGN place of Birth on it back in 1961?

NO, THERE IS NOT.

So, there is NOTHING AT ALL on the original birth certificate that could prove that Obama was born elsewhere.

YOU or some other person believing this, posted a birth certificate from the time, and there was no slot or line on the form where one could have both Kenya and honolulu as birth place.

THERE IS NOTHING at all on the original birth certificate that would show the birth place, any other place but Hawaii?

The Department of Health also SAID that if the short form says Honolulu, then the LONG form says Honolulu as birth place...they don't haphazzardly get to choose what to put on the short form, it is computer generated COPY of the information on the original copy.

From all of the lengthy and I mean LENGTHY research on this the form you are looking for is called a Certification of Citizenship, which was issued to foreign born babies of American citizens.

John McCain's birth certificate does NOT list the mother's town as his birth place, it states Panama....yet, he is still a citizen according to our laws....and has a certification of citizenship form.

Obama's BIRTH certificate if he were born overseas, would list Kenya...yet still be a citizen of the united states through naturalization and have a certification of citizenship form..

Foreign born babies WERE NOT EVER issued Birth Certificates for the State of Hawaii or Certifications of Live Births for the State of Hawaii back in 1961 AS YOU KEEP CLAIMING....I spent hours researching such and it is simply NOT TRUE....

care

care... you're getting way off kilter here... his original birth certificate would have been ISSUED in Hawaii if he was BORN in Hawaii. It will say HAWAII on it, AND THE HOSPITAL, AND THE DOCTOR, and THAT is what everybody wants to see.

So why is obama hiding it?

 

[Care4all]

Well, it's already been established long ago, a Hawaiian certification of live birth issued in 1961 doesn't prove spit, especially where you were born.

Is there a spot on the Original Birth Certificate that allows the State to put ANOTHER FOREIGN place of Birth on it back in 1961?

NO, THERE IS NOT.

So, there is NOTHING AT ALL on the original birth certificate that could prove that Obama was born elsewhere.

YOU or some other person believing this, posted a birth certificate from the time, and there was no slot or line on the form where one could have both Kenya and honolulu as birth place.

THERE IS NOTHING at all on the original birth certificate that would show the birth place, any other place but Hawaii?

The Department of Health also SAID that if the short form says Honolulu, then the LONG form says Honolulu as birth place...they don't haphazzardly get to choose what to put on the short form, it is computer generated COPY of the information on the original copy.

From all of the lengthy and I mean LENGTHY research on this the form you are looking for is called a Certification of Citizenship, which was issued to foreign born babies of American citizens.

John McCain's birth certificate does NOT list the mother's town as his birth place, it states Panama....yet, he is still a citizen according to our laws....and has a certification of citizenship form.

Obama's BIRTH certificate if he were born overseas, would list Kenya...yet still be a citizen of the united states through naturalization and have a certification of citizenship form..

Foreign born babies WERE NOT EVER issued Birth Certificates for the State of Hawaii or Certifications of Live Births for the State of Hawaii back in 1961 AS YOU KEEP CLAIMING....I spent hours researching such and it is simply NOT TRUE....

care

care... you're getting way off kilter here... his original birth certificate would have been ISSUED in Hawaii if he was BORN in Hawaii. It will say HAWAII on it, AND THE HOSPITAL, AND THE DOCTOR, and THAT is what everybody wants to see.

So why is obama hiding it?

I don't know honestly....there could be information on it that they feel is private...the doctor's name, how many children she had before obama, delivered or otherwise...

Whatever?

Even if the copy of the original were released they would black out all the info like that, which is not pertinent and you would only see the parts that are available on the computer generated one...so, you will see honolulu hawaii...what is on the LEGAL certification of Live birth form....

Why do you want to see the original verses the Legal one made avail?

Why is it so important for you to see the original?

What will it tell you that will instantly make him the natural born citizen that he is?

Or is this just a stepping stone for MORE accusations....?

Like once you get the Doctor's name, you will track him down to verify, and if he is dead, then obama had him killed to hide his real birth info...?

WHAT'S NEXT Pale....where do you go once you see the original which STATES HONOLULU AS BIRTH place, exactly as what is reported and certified to be true, on the certification of live birth?

 

[Bass v 2.0]

Well it all has been settled now so you rightwing nutjobs looking for anything to deny this black man the presidency can now shut the hell up and quit acting like delusional monkeys:

And there you have it.... RIGHT THERE is part of the problem. The powers to be, "our government," know that if it is ever established that obama was NOT eligible to be President, or senator for that matter, you want to hear CONSPIRACY! Shit the blacks in this country will NEVER believe it, even if the prove is indisputable. They'll riot to the point of throwing this country into anarchy. The blacks and the whites will suffer a race relations set back clear to the Civil War. You think our government wants that? **** no they don't. They no more want to see proof of where obama was born than the man in the moon does. Problem is, this issue is NOT going away. It's just getting bigger. I heard on the news last night that now 49.7% of the COUNTRY thinks obama should release his birth certificate, and the number grows bigger every day. So you people here that think this is a non issue, it will soon be YOU who is the MINORITY. We who want this issue resolved, we who want to see this damn real birth certificate we hear so much about, WE WILL BE HEARD, WE WILL HAVE OUR DAY. And you better hope and pray we're all wrong.

If he wasn't eligible don't you think that would have already been established why did you nutjobs start questioning this after Obama beat Hillary in the primaries and after he won the election? Had he lost both of those you nutjobs wouldn't asking for a birth certificate.

 

[Emma]

Well, it's already been established long ago, a Hawaiian certification of live birth issued in 1961 doesn't prove spit, especially where you were born.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/1349459-post440.html

Oh sheeeezuz... please Emma... tell me you're not dumb enough to site wiki as a source of information...

Only if it's sourced.

 

[Emma]

We who want this issue resolved, we who want to see this damn real birth certificate we hear so much about, WE WILL BE HEARD, WE WILL HAVE OUR DAY.

No, you won't:

The Department of Hawaiian Home Lands accepts both Certificates of Live Birth (original birth certificate) and Certifications of Live Birth because they are official government records documenting an individual’s birth. The Certificate of Live Birth generally has more information which is useful for genealogical purposes as compared to the Certification of Live Birth which is a computer-generated printout that provides specific details of a person’s birth. Although original birth certificates (Certificates of Live Birth) are preferred for their greater detail, the State Department of Health (DOH) no longer issues Certificates of Live Birth. When a request is made for a copy of a birth certificate, the DOH issues a Certification of Live Birth.


Sorry.

 

[DiveCon]

http://www.usmessageboard.com/1349459-post440.html

Oh sheeeezuz... please Emma... tell me you're not dumb enough to site wiki as a source of information...

Only if it's sourced.

i use wiki only to find the source, then link the source
i will sometimes use wiki just because i dont feel like pasting in more than one link

 

[bk1983]

Well it all has been settled now so you rightwing nutjobs looking for anything to deny this black man the presidency can now shut the hell up and quit acting like delusional monkeys:

And there you have it.... RIGHT THERE is part of the problem. The powers to be, "our government," know that if it is ever established that obama was NOT eligible to be President, or senator for that matter, you want to hear CONSPIRACY! Shit the blacks in this country will NEVER believe it, even if the prove is indisputable. They'll riot to the point of throwing this country into anarchy. The blacks and the whites will suffer a race relations set back clear to the Civil War. You think our government wants that? **** no they don't. They no more want to see proof of where obama was born than the man in the moon does. Problem is, this issue is NOT going away. It's just getting bigger. I heard on the news last night that now 49.7% of the COUNTRY thinks obama should release his birth certificate, and the number grows bigger every day. So you people here that think this is a non issue, it will soon be YOU who is the MINORITY. We who want this issue resolved, we who want to see this damn real birth certificate we hear so much about, WE WILL BE HEARD, WE WILL HAVE OUR DAY. And you better hope and pray we're all wrong.

So now the Hawaii State Govt is in on the conspiracy? Pale be honest with yourself, nothing will convince you. Even if Obama's long form or original was released you still would claim foul play and probably blame it on the "powers to be" Again for the slow and stupid you cannot obtain the long form or original in Hawaii, we only get certified copies of the COLB. The exact same one that is readily available for public viewing.

 

[Emma]

So now the Hawaii State Govt is in on the conspiracy? Pale be honest with yourself, nothing will convince you. Even if Obama's long form or original was released you still would claim foul play and probably blame it on the "powers to be" Again for the slow and stupid you cannot obtain the long form or original in Hawaii, we only get certified copies of the COLB. The exact same one that is readily available for public viewing.

If they are now convinced the state of Hawaii is in on this, why should WE believe they'll accept a 'long' form birth certificate even IF the state were to issue one?

 

[DiveCon]

So now the Hawaii State Govt is in on the conspiracy? Pale be honest with yourself, nothing will convince you. Even if Obama's long form or original was released you still would claim foul play and probably blame it on the "powers to be" Again for the slow and stupid you cannot obtain the long form or original in Hawaii, we only get certified copies of the COLB. The exact same one that is readily available for public viewing.

If they are now convinced the state of Hawaii is in on this, why should WE believe they'll accept a 'long' form birth certificate even IF the state were to issue one?

and that right there is the reason why they wont release it

look at all the records Bush released to give in to the demands, we got to see his DENTAL records and the "Bush was AWOL" nutters still claimed it

 

[Emma]

So now the Hawaii State Govt is in on the conspiracy? Pale be honest with yourself, nothing will convince you. Even if Obama's long form or original was released you still would claim foul play and probably blame it on the "powers to be" Again for the slow and stupid you cannot obtain the long form or original in Hawaii, we only get certified copies of the COLB. The exact same one that is readily available for public viewing.

If they are now convinced the state of Hawaii is in on this, why should WE believe they'll accept a 'long' form birth certificate even IF the state were to issue one?

and that right there is the reason why they wont release it

look at all the records Bush released to give in to the demands, we got to see his DENTAL records and the "Bush was AWOL" nutters still claimed it

I guess he has to hire lawyers to answer the suits filed in court, but other than that, I don't believe he should give them the time of day. It will only feed their conspiracy theories. That's how those things work. Each answer, each piece of evidence to the contrary is PROOF!!! that the conspiracy is even broader than they suspected. Response only makes it grow and grow ever more ridiculous.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

So now the Hawaii State Govt is in on the conspiracy? Pale be honest with yourself, nothing will convince you. Even if Obama's long form or original was released you still would claim foul play and probably blame it on the "powers to be" Again for the slow and stupid you cannot obtain the long form or original in Hawaii, we only get certified copies of the COLB. The exact same one that is readily available for public viewing.[/QUOTE]

uh yeah,if you knew anything at all about goverment,you would know government corruption runs rapid here in this country.your all just in denial about government conspiracys is all.

 

[Emma]

uh yeah,if you knew anything at all about goverment,you would know government corruption runs rapid here in this country.your all just in denial about government conspiracys is all.

Considering the huge number of people already implicated in this conspiracy and that would be needed to keep it going... how do they keep them all quiet? ALL of them?

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Well, it's already been established long ago, a Hawaiian certification of live birth issued in 1961 doesn't prove spit, especially where you were born.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/1349459-post440.html

Oh sheeeezuz... please Emma... tell me you're not dumb enough to site wiki as a source of information...

LOlnow I know why all you Obama apologists have been so brainwashed by the media.Wiki is a horrible source to use as information,they can type in anything they want to there.They always cover up the truth about government conspiracys there at that site.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

uh yeah,if you knew anything at all about goverment,you would know government corruption runs rapid here in this country.your all just in denial about government conspiracys is all.

Considering the huge number of people already implicated in this conspiracy and that would be needed to keep it going... how do they keep them all quiet? ALL of them?

simple,theres a thing called being greedy and selfish.you might consider it that thats why they are willing to keep their mouths shut.a thing called money.sheesh.

 

[Emma]

uh yeah,if you knew anything at all about goverment,you would know government corruption runs rapid here in this country.your all just in denial about government conspiracys is all.

Considering the huge number of people already implicated in this conspiracy and that would be needed to keep it going... how do they keep them all quiet? ALL of them?

simple,theres a thing called being greedy and selfish.you might consider it that thats why they are willing to keep their mouths shut.a thing called money.sheesh.

So EVERYONE with any possible connection to the wider conspiracy is being paid off? Now stop to consider all the people in the past 48 years who would have to keep their mouths shut in order for this to continue. And consider what some of them stand to lose if it comes to light that they lied. All of them are being paid off, eh?

By whom?

 

[Emma]

And you mention how greedy and selfish people are. What's to keep them from becoming even more greedy and more selfish? What's to prevent them from trying to blackmail or extort even more money from this person who is paying them off?