Homosexuality is like Cancer

[Katzndogz]

Homosexuality isn't like cancer.

Accepting homosexuality as an alternative form of normal, IS like accepting cancer as an alternative form of healthy.

 

[Esmeralda]

Reason #1) Because if I own a business, I will have to be very careful who I hirer so as not to have to invest in healthcare for a "homosexual" partner. That would make me an accomplice in a lifestyle I feel is fraudulent and sinful.

Reason #2) Because the governmental acceptance of such a marriage model will foster the notion that that lifestyle is worthy of propagating.

Reason #3) Because those who disagree in ethical, religious, biological, pathological, or psychiatric terms will soon find themselves hostilely labeled ----- and not for an action or deed ---- but only for their opinion.

Reason #4) children will soon find something else to experiment with in an already very confusing world of relationships.

Reason #5) People will come to see marriage as an institution for the proliferation of sexual enjoyment and arousal, and not as the primary foundation for establishing and building a family.

All of this turns Bedford Falls into Sodom & Gomorrah. I'd rather not have to run to the mountains while there is still an opportunity to turn things around and influence souls to seek after God's goodness...

None of these things affect you unless you choose to have them affect you. It is all in your mind, not in your physical reality. You are saying that anyone or anything that is contrary to your personal lifestlye, views, morals, values, religion, etc. affects you. They don't. They bother you because of how you think, but they have no direct effect on you whatsoever. You are wanting to control the world based on your values and morals. Can't be done. I don't live by your morals and you can't make me. You can't make anyone else live by your personal morals either. If you need to do that, you need to move to a theocracy, like Saudi Arabia, where everyone lives under one rule of law based on their religious tenets and morals. Only one way or the highway, essentially. That's not a reality for most places in the world. What you need to learn is live and let live.

Federal laws are not in my mind. No Bible reading and prayer mentioning (Jesus) in public institutions are not in my mind. The removal of religious symbolism from the public square (regardless of who paid for it) is not in my mind. Civil lawsuits are not in my mind. Things have changed and not for the better. You may live anyway you wish; however, you have no right to silence me or physically harm me ------------ as of yet. Nazi Germany changed very quickly. It took less than 20 years. We've been plodding along since about 1963. Nibbling away at the foundation upon that which this country was founded. The Federal Government has no right to educate nor eradicate how individuals care to act or behave. HOWEVER, communities have the right to establish rules and regulations they wish to hold dear. Historically such is the soul of the nation and not the Federal Government. I believe that Biblically based communities are entirely legal under the Constitution (or at least they once were). People who did not wish to abide to such notions could and often did founded their own communities. Reno Nevada was a perfect example. Ocean City NJ was another. They were both diametrically opposed to each other, and yet they were once Constitutional.
Militant Homosexuals and atheist have demanded more. They want FEDERAL sponsorship at the expense of other beliefs and ideologies. That is the removal of all religious reminders to the contrary of materialism and hedonism. Sorry. I will not let you have it your way without confrontation.

Homosexuals are not silencing you. Society is nowadays regarding language full of hatred against anyone as unacceptable, so it isn't homosexuality that is affecting you but, rather, social mores that are changing. Homosexuals are not physically harming your. America is a secular state, a secular government: the separation of church and state is firm. If you want to live by your religious beliefs, that's fine: no one can stop you. However, you, as well, cannot stop anyone from living by their own morals and ethics. You can confront anyone you want. If you incite hatred and violence against others, you may find yourself in trouble, however.

"People who did not wish to abide to such notions could and often did founded their own communities." People who could not abide by and accept the law of the land and the social mores of the majority left the community and founded their own communites, with a lot of dedication and hardship; that is what the Pilgrams were all about, coming to the New World and founding a country where what religion you practiced was not dictated by the State. You are in the minority, not the majority. You are the one who is not wanting to go along with the State and the majority of the people. It is up to you to go off somewhere and found you own community. I recommend the wilderness in upstate Alaska. Lots of room up there.

 

[rightwinger]

See the post above. EVERYTHING we do affects others --- for both good and bad...

Please explain how homosexuality in others affects you.

Reason #1) Because if I own a business, I will have to be very careful who I hirer so as not to have to invest in healthcare for a "homosexual" partner. That would make me an accomplice in a lifestyle I feel is fraudulent and sinful.

Reason #2) Because the governmental acceptance of such a marriage model will foster the notion that that lifestyle is worthy of propagating.

Reason #3) Because those who disagree in ethical, religious, biological, pathological, or psychiatric terms will soon find themselves hostilely labeled ----- and not for an action or deed ---- but only for their opinion.

Reason #4) children will soon find something else to experiment with in an already very confusing world of relationships.

Reason #5) People will come to see marriage as an institution for the proliferation of sexual enjoyment and arousal, and not as the primary foundation for establishing and building a family.

All of this turns Bedford Falls into Sodom & Gomorrah. I'd rather not have to run to the mountains while there is still an opportunity to turn things around and influence souls to seek after God's goodness...

If you are so concerned about marriage, why don't you go after divorce which destroys half of our marriages instead of gay marriage which establishes new ones?

 

[rightwinger]

Reason #1) Because if I own a business, I will have to be very careful who I hirer so as not to have to invest in healthcare for a "homosexual" partner. That would make me an accomplice in a lifestyle I feel is fraudulent and sinful.

Reason #2) Because the governmental acceptance of such a marriage model will foster the notion that that lifestyle is worthy of propagating.

Reason #3) Because those who disagree in ethical, religious, biological, pathological, or psychiatric terms will soon find themselves hostilely labeled ----- and not for an action or deed ---- but only for their opinion.

Reason #4) children will soon find something else to experiment with in an already very confusing world of relationships.

Reason #5) People will come to see marriage as an institution for the proliferation of sexual enjoyment and arousal, and not as the primary foundation for establishing and building a family.

All of this turns Bedford Falls into Sodom & Gomorrah. I'd rather not have to run to the mountains while there is still an opportunity to turn things around and influence souls to seek after God's goodness...

None of these things affect you unless you choose to have them affect you. It is all in your mind, not in your physical reality. You are saying that anyone or anything that is contrary to your personal lifestlye, views, morals, values, religion, etc. affects you. They don't. They bother you because of how you think, but they have no direct effect on you whatsoever. You are wanting to control the world based on your values and morals. Can't be done. I don't live by your morals and you can't make me. You can't make anyone else live by your personal morals either. If you need to do that, you need to move to a theocracy, like Saudi Arabia, where everyone lives under one rule of law based on their religious tenets and morals. Only one way or the highway, essentially. That's not a reality for most places in the world. What you need to learn is live and let live.

Federal laws are not in my mind. No Bible reading and prayer mentioning (Jesus) in public institutions are not in my mind. The removal of religious symbolism from the public square (regardless of who paid for it) is not in my mind. Civil lawsuits are not in my mind. Things have changed and not for the better. You may live anyway you wish; however, you have no right to silence me or physically harm me ------------ as of yet. Nazi Germany changed very quickly. It took less than 20 years. We've been plodding along since about 1963. Nibbling away at the foundation upon that which this country was founded. The Federal Government has no right to educate nor eradicate how individuals care to act or behave. HOWEVER, communities have the right to establish rules and regulations they wish to hold dear. Historically such is the soul of the nation and not the Federal Government. I believe that Biblically based communities are entirely legal under the Constitution (or at least they once were). People who did not wish to abide to such notions could and often did founded their own communities. Reno Nevada was a perfect example. Ocean City NJ was another. They were both diametrically opposed to each other, and yet they were once Constitutional.
Militant Homosexuals and atheist have demanded more. They want FEDERAL sponsorship at the expense of other beliefs and ideologies. That is the removal of all religious reminders to the contrary of materialism and hedonism. Sorry. I will not let you have it your way without confrontation.

We have morally degraded since 1963? Are you serious?

Since 1963:

1. Civil Rights legislation and desegregation
2. Womens rights in the workplace and domestic violence crackdowns
3. Gay rights: In 1963 you could openly assault gays and put the blame on them
4. Environmental laws. The ultimate morality

 

[hjmick]

None of these things affect you unless you choose to have them affect you. It is all in your mind, not in your physical reality. You are saying that anyone or anything that is contrary to your personal lifestlye, views, morals, values, religion, etc. affects you. They don't. They bother you because of how you think, but they have no direct effect on you whatsoever. You are wanting to control the world based on your values and morals. Can't be done. I don't live by your morals and you can't make me. You can't make anyone else live by your personal morals either. If you need to do that, you need to move to a theocracy, like Saudi Arabia, where everyone lives under one rule of law based on their religious tenets and morals. Only one way or the highway, essentially. That's not a reality for most places in the world. What you need to learn is live and let live.

Federal laws are not in my mind. No Bible reading and prayer mentioning (Jesus) in public institutions are not in my mind. The removal of religious symbolism from the public square (regardless of who paid for it) is not in my mind. Civil lawsuits are not in my mind. Things have changed and not for the better. You may live anyway you wish; however, you have no right to silence me or physically harm me ------------ as of yet. Nazi Germany changed very quickly. It took less than 20 years. We've been plodding along since about 1963. Nibbling away at the foundation upon that which this country was founded. The Federal Government has no right to educate nor eradicate how individuals care to act or behave. HOWEVER, communities have the right to establish rules and regulations they wish to hold dear. Historically such is the soul of the nation and not the Federal Government. I believe that Biblically based communities are entirely legal under the Constitution (or at least they once were). People who did not wish to abide to such notions could and often did founded their own communities. Reno Nevada was a perfect example. Ocean City NJ was another. They were both diametrically opposed to each other, and yet they were once Constitutional.
Militant Homosexuals and atheist have demanded more. They want FEDERAL sponsorship at the expense of other beliefs and ideologies. That is the removal of all religious reminders to the contrary of materialism and hedonism. Sorry. I will not let you have it your way without confrontation.

We have morally degraded since 1963? Are you serious?

Since 1963:

1. Civil Rights legislation and desegregation
2. Womens rights in the workplace and domestic violence crackdowns
3. Gay rights: In 1963 you could openly assault gays and put the blame on them
4. Environmental laws. The ultimate morality

I'm not sure you will an argument with LittleHater using these points. I get the impression they're not at the top of his list of positives...

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Why are some people so terrified that they're homosexual?

Like "little nipper", steve, katzen, stephanie and others.

Y'all would be happier if you would get some therapy and mind your own business.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

And You have a perverted homosexual mouth! Grow up before you remain a baby for your entire life...

How long have you been repressing your homosexual tendencies?

How long have you been applying your own values to label other people. Says the guy/gurl who is applying his/her own values to label other peopleI'm certainly not perfect; however, I know what is good, bad and ugly. No, actually, you don't. It is all in the Bible.Not surprising that you say you're "christian" when you definetely are not.

Why don't you just mind your own business?

Or, as someone else said, give your attention to the fact that half of all hetero marriages end in divorce.

 

[LittleNipper]

None of these things affect you unless you choose to have them affect you. It is all in your mind, not in your physical reality. You are saying that anyone or anything that is contrary to your personal lifestlye, views, morals, values, religion, etc. affects you. They don't. They bother you because of how you think, but they have no direct effect on you whatsoever. You are wanting to control the world based on your values and morals. Can't be done. I don't live by your morals and you can't make me. You can't make anyone else live by your personal morals either. If you need to do that, you need to move to a theocracy, like Saudi Arabia, where everyone lives under one rule of law based on their religious tenets and morals. Only one way or the highway, essentially. That's not a reality for most places in the world. What you need to learn is live and let live.

Federal laws are not in my mind. No Bible reading and prayer mentioning (Jesus) in public institutions are not in my mind. The removal of religious symbolism from the public square (regardless of who paid for it) is not in my mind. Civil lawsuits are not in my mind. Things have changed and not for the better. You may live anyway you wish; however, you have no right to silence me or physically harm me ------------ as of yet. Nazi Germany changed very quickly. It took less than 20 years. We've been plodding along since about 1963. Nibbling away at the foundation upon that which this country was founded. The Federal Government has no right to educate nor eradicate how individuals care to act or behave. HOWEVER, communities have the right to establish rules and regulations they wish to hold dear. Historically such is the soul of the nation and not the Federal Government. I believe that Biblically based communities are entirely legal under the Constitution (or at least they once were). People who did not wish to abide to such notions could and often did founded their own communities. Reno Nevada was a perfect example. Ocean City NJ was another. They were both diametrically opposed to each other, and yet they were once Constitutional.
Militant Homosexuals and atheist have demanded more. They want FEDERAL sponsorship at the expense of other beliefs and ideologies. That is the removal of all religious reminders to the contrary of materialism and hedonism. Sorry. I will not let you have it your way without confrontation.

Homosexuals are not silencing you. Society is nowadays regarding language full of hatred against anyone as unacceptable, so it isn't homosexuality that is affecting you but, rather, social mores that are changing. Homosexuals are not physically harming your. America is a secular state, a secular government: the separation of church and state is firm. If you want to live by your religious beliefs, that's fine: no one can stop you. However, you, as well, cannot stop anyone from living by their own morals and ethics. You can confront anyone you want. If you incite hatred and violence against others, you may find yourself in trouble, however.

"People who did not wish to abide to such notions could and often did founded their own communities." People who could not abide by and accept the law of the land and the social mores of the majority left the community and founded their own communites, with a lot of dedication and hardship; that is what the Pilgrams were all about, coming to the New World and founding a country where what religion you practiced was not dictated by the State. You are in the minority, not the majority. You are the one who is not wanting to go along with the State and the majority of the people. It is up to you to go off somewhere and found you own community. I recommend the wilderness in upstate Alaska. Lots of room up there.

Just like "marriage" some are trying to redefine "hate." Disagreement is not hate. Just because I show valid reasons why Homosexuality is wrong and should not be placated doesn't in anyway demonstrate hate. That fact is that those who call others "homophobes" and throw the hate word around whenever they feel they are not getting their own way are actually the ones demonstrating true hate. And they imagine that because they feel hatred, they imagine that those that oppose them feel the very same towards them. This is far from the truth.

 

[LittleNipper]

Please explain how homosexuality in others affects you.

Reason #1) Because if I own a business, I will have to be very careful who I hirer so as not to have to invest in healthcare for a "homosexual" partner. That would make me an accomplice in a lifestyle I feel is fraudulent and sinful.

Reason #2) Because the governmental acceptance of such a marriage model will foster the notion that that lifestyle is worthy of propagating.

Reason #3) Because those who disagree in ethical, religious, biological, pathological, or psychiatric terms will soon find themselves hostilely labeled ----- and not for an action or deed ---- but only for their opinion.

Reason #4) children will soon find something else to experiment with in an already very confusing world of relationships.

Reason #5) People will come to see marriage as an institution for the proliferation of sexual enjoyment and arousal, and not as the primary foundation for establishing and building a family.

All of this turns Bedford Falls into Sodom & Gomorrah. I'd rather not have to run to the mountains while there is still an opportunity to turn things around and influence souls to seek after God's goodness...

If you are so concerned about marriage, why don't you go after divorce which destroys half of our marriages instead of gay marriage which establishes new ones?

Homosexual "married" couples have been documented as divorcing far more that heterosexuals. In Norway, male same-sex marriages are 50 percent more likely to end in divorce than heterosexual marriages, and female same-sex marriages are an astonishing 167 percent more likely to be dissolved. In Sweden, the divorce risk for male-male partnerships is 50 percent higher than for heterosexual marriages, and the divorce risk for female partnerships is nearly double that for men. This should not be surprising: In the United States, women request approximately two-thirds of divorces in all forms of relationships — and have done so since the start of the 19th century — so it reasonably follows that relationships in which both partners are women are more likely to include someone who wishes to exit.
So if getting married for the wrong reason is a cause for divorce, why would anyone imagine that giving "homosexual" couples the right to marry is going to strengthen the already fragile institution? This is yet another proof that "homosexual" relationships are faulty and offer very little social stability. Oh, and thank you for giving me yet another valid reason homosexual "marriage" is a terrible idea.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Reason #1) Because if I own a business, I will have to be very careful who I hirer so as not to have to invest in healthcare for a "homosexual" partner. That would make me an accomplice in a lifestyle I feel is fraudulent and sinful.

Reason #2) Because the governmental acceptance of such a marriage model will foster the notion that that lifestyle is worthy of propagating.

Reason #3) Because those who disagree in ethical, religious, biological, pathological, or psychiatric terms will soon find themselves hostilely labeled ----- and not for an action or deed ---- but only for their opinion.

Reason #4) children will soon find something else to experiment with in an already very confusing world of relationships.

Reason #5) People will come to see marriage as an institution for the proliferation of sexual enjoyment and arousal, and not as the primary foundation for establishing and building a family.

All of this turns Bedford Falls into Sodom & Gomorrah. I'd rather not have to run to the mountains while there is still an opportunity to turn things around and influence souls to seek after God's goodness...

If you are so concerned about marriage, why don't you go after divorce which destroys half of our marriages instead of gay marriage which establishes new ones?

Homosexual "married" couples have been documented as divorcing far more that heterosexuals. In Norway, male same-sex marriages are 50 percent more likely to end in divorce than heterosexual marriages, and female same-sex marriages are an astonishing 167 percent more likely to be dissolved. In Sweden, the divorce risk for male-male partnerships is 50 percent higher than for heterosexual marriages, and the divorce risk for female partnerships is nearly double that for men. This should not be surprising: In the United States, women request approximately two-thirds of divorces in all forms of relationships — and have done so since the start of the 19th century — so it reasonably follows that relationships in which both partners are women are more likely to include someone who wishes to exit.
So if getting married for the wrong reason is a cause for divorce, why would anyone imagine that giving "homosexual" couples the right to marry is going to strengthen the already fragile institution? This is yet another proof that "homosexual" relationships are faulty and offer very little social stability. Oh, and thank you for giving me yet another valid reason homosexual "marriage" is a terrible idea.

Can you provide links to prove your bullshit?

According to the current statistics, the average heterosexual marriage lasts around 5 to 7 years (why do you think they talk about the 7 year itch?).

Most gays that I've known have been together for anywhere from 8 to 35 years.

Matter of fact, the lesbian couple that I rented a room from while I was in Norfolk had been together for over 9 years (and they had a 15 year old daughter who was crazy for boys).

Sorry..................................but the majority of homosexual and lesbian relationships that I've met over my life (and I'm 49) have been better and more lasting than any that I've seen from heterosexual relationships.

Just so you know, not every person who is gay is a sexual predator. Ever heard of the guys that really like to have one night stands with women? It's so much of a cliché that it is even being shown on comedy shows.

But..................keep trying..................your bigotry shows more and more every day.

 

[ABikerSailor]

I'm very happy that you turned out differently. Hopefully, you waited until marriage to have sex and married someone who held to your values, and together raised your children accordingly. What I do not understand is if all homosexuals are wired that way, then are not all murderers wired that way? Does peer pressure count for nothing? Why do corporations waste billions on advertising? I mean obviously the Ford dealership could publicize that they sell a good running automobile and can paint it any color desired so come to _______ when needing a vehicle. But that is not what is done. You are smart enough to realize that. They tell you that you need a car -- you deserve a great car --- money isn't the important thing --- prestige is what counts --- speed is what counts --- looks is what counts....
I'm sure that if it became ok to murder someone you didn't like, that there would be MORE murders. So make homosexuality seem cool and people will get jiggy with it man. Tattoos were the thing of sideshows, sailors, and primitives in the jungle. But now many people are spending LOADS of money to have their cat's paw prints displayed for all to see. Why? because it is now believed to be socially acceptable. My guess is that we are just getting ready for the moment when the Anti-Christ shows up and says that everyone needs three digits of six tattooed on the right hand or the forehead... The people with tattoos will say "COOL!." Those without tattoos will say, "Now, I'm just like the rest of the crowd."

BTW: The Swiss have ONLY proven that the brains of Homosexuals reflect a difference. But the FACT is that they didn't compare brainwaves of individuals before and after they got involved in homosexuality. The reality is that such acts and preoccupations may in fact be the switch which changes brain wiring, and not the reverse. They have only presented the convenient side of the research.....

"Waited until marriage before I had sex"? Really? Are you that ******* stupid that you totally jumped over the part where I said that I had been molested at age 8?

No.................I didn't wait until I was married to have sex, because at an early age it was forced upon me and I didn't know better, as well as the fact that until I'd gotten over the shame that the Christians heaped upon me that I became a person who could enjoy an intimate relationship without either ******* it up or freaking out. Took me until I was about 30 to get rid of all that baggage.

Did I marry someone who held to my values? At age 21, I didn't know what my values were, nor did she know her own, and I was divorced around 7 years later. Did I raise my kids in a good Christian home? No, because she'd cheated on me with another squadron mate who was a Chief, and I never got the chance, as my kids were 4 and 6 when I got divorced.

My personal opinion? You're too blinded by the dogma of your church to look at things in a realistic and objective way, so your judgment means nothing to me because I think that because I've experienced these things, and you (hopefully) haven't, you have no understanding of many of the things you speak.

And yeah.....................the Swiss doctors did a very thorough research on the brains.

You were raped. That isn't the same as giving your sex to another voluntarily. So, your life has been affected by the evil of others. Not only did you not know the difference between finding a spouse and a sex partner, you likely used sex to find that partner. At the age of 21, YOU should have had a set a values. Do your children share the same filthy mouth you have acquired? Do you feel that they haven't been affected by choices, attitude, feelings about sex? Christ doesn't blame you. Christ came to save you. Until you stop blaming Christianity for things Christianity never promoted, you will always be blaming the wrong people.
Are you really objective? Are you realistic? We are not perfect and that is the very reason we need a Savior. But one must understand his imperfections and sinful nature before he can accept salvation. "Homosexual marriage" is society saying that homosexuality is a "good thing." People who do not know that what they do is wrong are not likely to come to Christ. In fact that only creates another rung in the ladder away from God, and an excuse for others to promote their own agendas & depravity.

Really? As much damage as was done to me by the time I was 18, I should have known what my set of values was?

Tell ya what....................my fondest hope for you is that you get to see what it was like to be me from the age of 5 until I was 30.

I'm guessing that a bigot such as yourself would never survive it, because you'd always think it shouldn't happen to you.

The difference between you and I? I recognized it happened, and tried to find the truth of why, as well as tried to figure a way out.

Guess what? I made it. I doubt you could because of your close minded bigotry.

 

[LittleNipper]

"Waited until marriage before I had sex"? Really? Are you that ******* stupid that you totally jumped over the part where I said that I had been molested at age 8?

No.................I didn't wait until I was married to have sex, because at an early age it was forced upon me and I didn't know better, as well as the fact that until I'd gotten over the shame that the Christians heaped upon me that I became a person who could enjoy an intimate relationship without either ******* it up or freaking out. Took me until I was about 30 to get rid of all that baggage.

Did I marry someone who held to my values? At age 21, I didn't know what my values were, nor did she know her own, and I was divorced around 7 years later. Did I raise my kids in a good Christian home? No, because she'd cheated on me with another squadron mate who was a Chief, and I never got the chance, as my kids were 4 and 6 when I got divorced.

My personal opinion? You're too blinded by the dogma of your church to look at things in a realistic and objective way, so your judgment means nothing to me because I think that because I've experienced these things, and you (hopefully) haven't, you have no understanding of many of the things you speak.

And yeah.....................the Swiss doctors did a very thorough research on the brains.

You were raped. That isn't the same as giving your sex to another voluntarily. So, your life has been affected by the evil of others. Not only did you not know the difference between finding a spouse and a sex partner, you likely used sex to find that partner. At the age of 21, YOU should have had a set a values. Do your children share the same filthy mouth you have acquired? Do you feel that they haven't been affected by choices, attitude, feelings about sex? Christ doesn't blame you. Christ came to save you. Until you stop blaming Christianity for things Christianity never promoted, you will always be blaming the wrong people.
Are you really objective? Are you realistic? We are not perfect and that is the very reason we need a Savior. But one must understand his imperfections and sinful nature before he can accept salvation. "Homosexual marriage" is society saying that homosexuality is a "good thing." People who do not know that what they do is wrong are not likely to come to Christ. In fact that only creates another rung in the ladder away from God, and an excuse for others to promote their own agendas & depravity.

Really? As much damage as was done to me by the time I was 18, I should have known what my set of values was?

Tell ya what....................my fondest hope for you is that you get to see what it was like to be me from the age of 5 until I was 30.

I'm guessing that a bigot such as yourself would never survive it, because you'd always think it shouldn't happen to you.

The difference between you and I? I recognized it happened, and tried to find the truth of why, as well as tried to figure a way out.

Guess what? I made it. I doubt you could because of your close minded bigotry.

God helped Job, I'm sure he would help anyone who asked for His help. The funny thing is, I would never wish evil on anyone ----- not even my worse enemy... That is the difference between you and I. However, you've proven my point. The sins of the parents are passed on to the children, unless they become children of God. And bigotry appears in many forms. It can take the form of hatred against those one disagrees with. I wish you well and pray you find peace that only comes from the Loving Father through His Son by way of the Comforter.

 

[LittleNipper]

If you are so concerned about marriage, why don't you go after divorce which destroys half of our marriages instead of gay marriage which establishes new ones?

Homosexual "married" couples have been documented as divorcing far more that heterosexuals. In Norway, male same-sex marriages are 50 percent more likely to end in divorce than heterosexual marriages, and female same-sex marriages are an astonishing 167 percent more likely to be dissolved. In Sweden, the divorce risk for male-male partnerships is 50 percent higher than for heterosexual marriages, and the divorce risk for female partnerships is nearly double that for men. This should not be surprising: In the United States, women request approximately two-thirds of divorces in all forms of relationships — and have done so since the start of the 19th century — so it reasonably follows that relationships in which both partners are women are more likely to include someone who wishes to exit.
So if getting married for the wrong reason is a cause for divorce, why would anyone imagine that giving "homosexual" couples the right to marry is going to strengthen the already fragile institution? This is yet another proof that "homosexual" relationships are faulty and offer very little social stability. Oh, and thank you for giving me yet another valid reason homosexual "marriage" is a terrible idea.

Can you provide links to prove your bullshit?

According to the current statistics, the average heterosexual marriage lasts around 5 to 7 years (why do you think they talk about the 7 year itch?).

Most gays that I've known have been together for anywhere from 8 to 35 years.

Matter of fact, the lesbian couple that I rented a room from while I was in Norfolk had been together for over 9 years (and they had a 15 year old daughter who was crazy for boys).

Sorry..................................but the majority of homosexual and lesbian relationships that I've met over my life (and I'm 49) have been better and more lasting than any that I've seen from heterosexual relationships.

Just so you know, not every person who is gay is a sexual predator. Ever heard of the guys that really like to have one night stands with women? It's so much of a cliché that it is even being shown on comedy shows.

But..................keep trying..................your bigotry shows more and more every day.

The information exists in countries that have had homosexual marriage for a whole lot longer then the United States. I'll let you look into it yourself --- if you are really interested. But it doesn't seem that you are interested in hearing anything against such lifestyles.

 

[ABikerSailor]

You were raped. That isn't the same as giving your sex to another voluntarily. So, your life has been affected by the evil of others. Not only did you not know the difference between finding a spouse and a sex partner, you likely used sex to find that partner. At the age of 21, YOU should have had a set a values. Do your children share the same filthy mouth you have acquired? Do you feel that they haven't been affected by choices, attitude, feelings about sex? Christ doesn't blame you. Christ came to save you. Until you stop blaming Christianity for things Christianity never promoted, you will always be blaming the wrong people.
Are you really objective? Are you realistic? We are not perfect and that is the very reason we need a Savior. But one must understand his imperfections and sinful nature before he can accept salvation. "Homosexual marriage" is society saying that homosexuality is a "good thing." People who do not know that what they do is wrong are not likely to come to Christ. In fact that only creates another rung in the ladder away from God, and an excuse for others to promote their own agendas & depravity.

Really? As much damage as was done to me by the time I was 18, I should have known what my set of values was?

Tell ya what....................my fondest hope for you is that you get to see what it was like to be me from the age of 5 until I was 30.

I'm guessing that a bigot such as yourself would never survive it, because you'd always think it shouldn't happen to you.

The difference between you and I? I recognized it happened, and tried to find the truth of why, as well as tried to figure a way out.

Guess what? I made it. I doubt you could because of your close minded bigotry.

God helped Job, I'm sure he would help anyone who asked for His help. The funny thing is, I would never wish evil on anyone ----- not even my worse enemy... That is the difference between you and I. However, you've proven my point. The sins of the parents are passed on to the children, unless they become children of God. And bigotry appears in many forms. It can take the form of hatred against those one disagrees with. I wish you well and pray you find peace that only comes from the Loving Father through His Son by way of the Comforter.

You're wrong. God didn't help Job, He let the SaTan have his way with him, as long as he didn't kill Job.

BTW......................I'm not wishing evil on you, I'm stating that if you'd lived the life I have, you may see things differently.

And no........................the sins of the parents aren't necessarily passed on to the children. Many of them become tolerant and learn from the mistakes and bigotry of their parents.

And by the way......................God appears to many people in many different ways. What's to say that the way He appeared to you is the only right one?

I think of God as a many faceted precious stone (kinda like a diamond), but if you view Him from only one facet, you miss out on many of the things you could have learned.

But.............keep preaching to the unknowing if it makes you happy.

 

[LittleNipper]

Really? As much damage as was done to me by the time I was 18, I should have known what my set of values was?

Tell ya what....................my fondest hope for you is that you get to see what it was like to be me from the age of 5 until I was 30.

I'm guessing that a bigot such as yourself would never survive it, because you'd always think it shouldn't happen to you.

The difference between you and I? I recognized it happened, and tried to find the truth of why, as well as tried to figure a way out.

Guess what? I made it. I doubt you could because of your close minded bigotry.

God helped Job, I'm sure he would help anyone who asked for His help. The funny thing is, I would never wish evil on anyone ----- not even my worse enemy... That is the difference between you and I. However, you've proven my point. The sins of the parents are passed on to the children, unless they become children of God. And bigotry appears in many forms. It can take the form of hatred against those one disagrees with. I wish you well and pray you find peace that only comes from the Loving Father through His Son by way of the Comforter.

You're wrong. God didn't help Job, He let the SaTan have his way with him, as long as he didn't kill Job.

BTW......................I'm not wishing evil on you, I'm stating that if you'd lived the life I have, you may see things differently.

And no........................the sins of the parents aren't necessarily passed on to the children. Many of them become tolerant and learn from the mistakes and bigotry of their parents.

And by the way......................God appears to many people in many different ways. What's to say that the way He appeared to you is the only right one?

I think of God as a many faceted precious stone (kinda like a diamond), but if you view Him from only one facet, you miss out on many of the things you could have learned.

But.............keep preaching to the unknowing if it makes you happy.

God is LOVE and PERFECT and TRIUNE and a RIGHTEOUS JUDGE. That would make Him many faceted. What you seem to be missing is that I agree with you; however, I also disagree with you. I agree in that your childhood sounds like it stank. Your parents were creeps, should never have married, should never have had sex, and should never have had children. I disagree with you in that I do not think that allowing homosexuals to marry and adopt children is going to make for a country of better parents. I believe it is going to set the stage for even more abuse and more creepy parents. God DID help Job. God caused Job to understand that bad things can happen to godly people. Job lived in a culture that believed that only evil people had troubles. If something bad happened, it meant that God was inflicting punishment for being bad. God showed Job that this is not always the case. Man lives in a sinful world and will die as a result of sin all around. But that doesn't mean the that individual sinned or did something God was punishing. This is what Job learned in the end. The righteous will someday be rewarded but the road is often ruff. That is just how life in this fallen world is. Satan is still the one who runs this world; however, he has already been defeated by Jesus Christ, and his days are numbered ---- but the road is ruff. And bad things can & still do happen to God's children while they live in it.

 

[auditor0007]

Homosexuality is like cancer. One may be born with it, acquire it, or have a propensity for it; however, that is not a reason to celebrate its occurrence. Society seeks to cure cancer and yet cancer is a natural phenomenon. Society as a whole, once wanted to cure homosexual behavior patterns. That society has since become very complacent but has not proven that homosexual behavior is good for society. Now the cancer is spreading to the point that homosexual behavior is beginning to be considered biologically correct. If it were biologically correct, it would be productive. And such behavior is nonproductive. In fact, it is harmful. Oral cancer, throat cancer, stomach cancer, anal rupture, blindness, have been linked to homosexual style encounters --- none of which produce a baby. So what exactly is the homosexual doing for society in terms of his sexual activity?

Perhaps the answer is that if everyone only engaged in homosexual behavior, then the population would go down. But then so with cancer. If everyone with cancer was withheld treatment, the population would also drop accordingly...

This just means that this kid is gay...and hates himself.

So why glamorize homosexuality? Or is this a way to destroy American values and reduce Americans to a third world nation of sexual deviants. It would seem Russia has deeper morals than Obama.

You seem to be struggling with some issues with your own sexuality that you are so concerned with such a small percentage of the population who has never bothered you in any way. If you are gay and struggling with it, just accept it. Your parents will still love you.

 

[LittleNipper]

This just means that this kid is gay...and hates himself.

So why glamorize homosexuality? Or is this a way to destroy American values and reduce Americans to a third world nation of sexual deviants. It would seem Russia has deeper morals than Obama.

You seem to be struggling with some issues with your own sexuality that you are so concerned with such a small percentage of the population who has never bothered you in any way. If you are gay and struggling with it, just accept it. Your parents will still love you.

Murders are a small percentage of the population and I care about them also. My parents will still love me if I kill someone. I believe morality is something that needs to be promoted. And homosexual unions are not moral. How does homosexuality benefit society? At least a killer may just be murdering someone who would murder someone else.

 

[ABikerSailor]

God helped Job, I'm sure he would help anyone who asked for His help. The funny thing is, I would never wish evil on anyone ----- not even my worse enemy... That is the difference between you and I. However, you've proven my point. The sins of the parents are passed on to the children, unless they become children of God. And bigotry appears in many forms. It can take the form of hatred against those one disagrees with. I wish you well and pray you find peace that only comes from the Loving Father through His Son by way of the Comforter.

You're wrong. God didn't help Job, He let the SaTan have his way with him, as long as he didn't kill Job.

BTW......................I'm not wishing evil on you, I'm stating that if you'd lived the life I have, you may see things differently.

And no........................the sins of the parents aren't necessarily passed on to the children. Many of them become tolerant and learn from the mistakes and bigotry of their parents.

And by the way......................God appears to many people in many different ways. What's to say that the way He appeared to you is the only right one?

I think of God as a many faceted precious stone (kinda like a diamond), but if you view Him from only one facet, you miss out on many of the things you could have learned.

But.............keep preaching to the unknowing if it makes you happy.

God is LOVE and PERFECT and TRIUNE and a RIGHTEOUS JUDGE. That would make Him many faceted. What you seem to be missing is that I agree with you; however, I also disagree with you. I agree in that your childhood sounds like it stank. Your parents were creeps, should never have married, should never have had sex, and should never have had children. I disagree with you in that I do not think that allowing homosexuals to marry and adopt children is going to make for a country of better parents. I believe it is going to set the stage for even more abuse and more creepy parents. God DID help Job. God caused Job to understand that bad things can happen to godly people. Job lived in a culture that believed that only evil people had troubles. If something bad happened, it meant that God was inflicting punishment for being bad. God showed Job that this is not always the case. Man lives in a sinful world and will die as a result of sin all around. But that doesn't mean the that individual sinned or did something God was punishing. This is what Job learned in the end. The righteous will someday be rewarded but the road is often ruff. That is just how life in this fallen world is. Satan is still the one who runs this world; however, he has already been defeated by Jesus Christ, and his days are numbered ---- but the road is ruff. And bad things can & still do happen to God's children while they live in it.

Actually, my mother was a saint. It was my father (and subsequent stepfathers) that were the problem until my mother died and I became an orphan at 8.

Are you saying that my parents should never have had sex? You DO realize that I would have never been born if that happened, right? And................why would you wish non existence on someone you don't even know? Especially when they (i.e. me) spent 20 years in the U.S. Navy defending your right to free speech?

And yeah..........................there are many kids who are orphans in this country (as well as the rest of the world) who are tired of living in group homes and their fondest wish is to feel what it's like to be part of a family. Why would you deny them that chance, even if it is with a same sex couple? Like I've said, I lived with a lesbian couple for 2 years, and their daughter was well adjusted and a pretty decent student. Do you really think that orphans should live in group homes for their entire childhood? Where is the possibility of them getting personal attention? Trust me.................I know, because I've been there before, and even if you live with a gay couple, it's much better than a group home.

And no..........................God DIDN'T help Job while he was going through his trials, although He did reward him after he'd finished.

Might wanna re-read the story of Job again. And oh yeah..................while you're at it, might wanna re-check your humanity to see if you can find a shred of compassion in that sullied rag you call a soul.

 

[LittleNipper]

You're wrong. God didn't help Job, He let the SaTan have his way with him, as long as he didn't kill Job.

BTW......................I'm not wishing evil on you, I'm stating that if you'd lived the life I have, you may see things differently.

And no........................the sins of the parents aren't necessarily passed on to the children. Many of them become tolerant and learn from the mistakes and bigotry of their parents.

And by the way......................God appears to many people in many different ways. What's to say that the way He appeared to you is the only right one?

I think of God as a many faceted precious stone (kinda like a diamond), but if you view Him from only one facet, you miss out on many of the things you could have learned.

But.............keep preaching to the unknowing if it makes you happy.

God is LOVE and PERFECT and TRIUNE and a RIGHTEOUS JUDGE. That would make Him many faceted. What you seem to be missing is that I agree with you; however, I also disagree with you. I agree in that your childhood sounds like it stank. Your parents were creeps, should never have married, should never have had sex, and should never have had children. I disagree with you in that I do not think that allowing homosexuals to marry and adopt children is going to make for a country of better parents. I believe it is going to set the stage for even more abuse and more creepy parents. God DID help Job. God caused Job to understand that bad things can happen to godly people. Job lived in a culture that believed that only evil people had troubles. If something bad happened, it meant that God was inflicting punishment for being bad. God showed Job that this is not always the case. Man lives in a sinful world and will die as a result of sin all around. But that doesn't mean the that individual sinned or did something God was punishing. This is what Job learned in the end. The righteous will someday be rewarded but the road is often ruff. That is just how life in this fallen world is. Satan is still the one who runs this world; however, he has already been defeated by Jesus Christ, and his days are numbered ---- but the road is ruff. And bad things can & still do happen to God's children while they live in it.

Actually, my mother was a saint. It was my father (and subsequent stepfathers) that were the problem until my mother died and I became an orphan at 8.

Are you saying that my parents should never have had sex? You DO realize that I would have never been born if that happened, right? And................why would you wish non existence on someone you don't even know? Especially when they (i.e. me) spent 20 years in the U.S. Navy defending your right to free speech?

And yeah..........................there are many kids who are orphans in this country (as well as the rest of the world) who are tired of living in group homes and their fondest wish is to feel what it's like to be part of a family. Why would you deny them that chance, even if it is with a same sex couple? Like I've said, I lived with a lesbian couple for 2 years, and their daughter was well adjusted and a pretty decent student. Do you really think that orphans should live in group homes for their entire childhood? Where is the possibility of them getting personal attention? Trust me.................I know, because I've been there before, and even if you live with a gay couple, it's much better than a group home.

And no..........................God DIDN'T help Job while he was going through his trials, although He did reward him after he'd finished.

Might wanna re-read the story of Job again. And oh yeah..................while you're at it, might wanna re-check your humanity to see if you can find a shred of compassion in that sullied rag you call a soul.

Yes! You mother married the wrong sort of men. That makes her less than perfect. The selection was up to her. Not all guys beat their wives or children. The fact is that you are here, and so if you do accept Christ as your personal Savior, then that would be a very good thing to come out of a bad situation. However, if you die and go to a Christless eternity, then I would have to say that it would have been far -- far better had you had never been born. And yes, God kept Job alive through his ordeal. And you are shortsighted and need to reread the story without looking to prove your own point, but rather with the mind of the Lord.

Sorry, but I feel that children ideally need a mother and a father and not second best so that some "couples" might feel good and complete about themselves. Most children are adopted. The situation is such that unless the "child" is nearly an adult or a foster child, that individual will likely be adopted.

 

[LittleNipper]

You seem to be struggling with some issues with your own sexuality that you are so concerned with such a small percentage of the population who has never bothered you in any way. If you are gay and struggling with it, just accept it. Your parents will still love you.

Murders are a small percentage of the population and I care about them also. My parents will still love me if I kill someone. I believe morality is something that needs to be promoted. And homosexual unions are not moral. How does homosexuality benefit society? At least a killer may just be murdering someone who would murder someone else.

So why don't you move to Russia? You could roam the streets looking for gays to beat up.

I don't make a habit of beating up people. And I have been a native of the United States for likely a lot longer than you have. I know that things here were better once. So I do know what America is capable of and I'm also know her bad points.