Hold This L: Judge curb-stomps the GOP's pathetic pentagon press ban

[excalibur]

The judge should try educating themself on the separation of powers. Freedom of the press is freedom to print a story, it's not unfettered access to the executive branch. I hope they appeal this, the ruling should be reversed.

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[JLW]

The judge should try educating themself on the separation of powers. Freedom of the press is freedom to print a story, it's not unfettered access to the executive branch. I hope they appeal this, the ruling should be reversed.

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That wasn’t the issue before the Court. The issue is denying or revoking press access to the Pentagon based on arbitrary and vague rules with a possibility of those rules being used to punish those critical of the Pentagon or Hegseth, or engaging in investigative reporting. As the Court noted, those rules were already being used to grant press passes to the my pillow guy and James O’ Keefe. The rules banned journalists who had felonies but the Pentagon granted a pass to O’Keefe who had a felony record solely because he is a Trumpist toady. It was plain what the Pentagon is attempting.

The Pentagon wanted the NYTs and others to sign a flagrantly unconstitutional pledge which would have impeded them from doing their jobs, I.e. holding the government accountable.

The Court was right. This was a victory for the 1st Amendment…for now.

 

[Lockback]

The judge should try educating themself on the separation of powers. Freedom of the press is freedom to print a story, it's not unfettered access to the executive branch. I hope they appeal this, the ruling should be reversed.

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Agree.
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[OKTexas]

That wasn’t the issue before the Court. The issue is denying or revoking press access to the Pentagon based on arbitrary and vague rules with a possibility of those rules being used to punish those critical of the Pentagon or Hegseth, or engaging in investigative reporting. As the Court noted, those rules were already being used to grant press passes to the my pillow guy and James O’ Keefe. The rules banned journalists who had felonies but the Pentagon granted a pass to O’Keefe who had a felony record solely because he is a Trumpist toady. It was plain what the Pentagon is attempting.

The Pentagon wanted the NYTs and others to sign a flagrantly unconstitutional pledge which would have impeded them from doing their jobs, I.e. holding the government accountable.

The Court was right. This was a victory for the 1st Amendment…for now.

It's all good, they can do their investigative reporting from the freaking streets, they have no constitutional right to enter the grounds of the Pentagon.

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[JLW]

It's all good, they can do their investigative reporting from the freaking streets, they have no constitutional right to enter the grounds of the Pentagon.

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Well, the gist of this dispute is that the federal government can not favor some press over other press just because that press is favorable to you, and the government can not enact rules that are vague and arbitrary that may be used to stop the press/media from doing their jobs.

 

[Lockback]

Well, the gist of this dispute is that the federal government can not favor some press over other press just because that press is favorable to you, and the government can not enact rules that are vague and arbitrary that may be used to stop the press/media from doing their jobs.

Laughable.

 

[Conservative from Georgia]

It's all good, they can do their investigative reporting from the freaking streets, they have no constitutional right to enter the grounds of the Pentagon.

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Thanks for your verdict, Your Honor.

 

[Conservative from Georgia]

Agree.
100%

You’re lying about the judge saying the press has “unfettered” access.

 

[Lockback]

You’re lying about the judge saying the press has “unfettered” access.

You're the liar.
I said I agree with the post.
But because you hate me and don't want to take on a Moderator, you aim your weak fire at me.
**** off.

 

[OKTexas]

Well, the gist of this dispute is that the federal government can not favor some press over other press just because that press is favorable to you, and the government can not enact rules that are vague and arbitrary that may be used to stop the press/media from doing their jobs.

Once again, the court does not have the power to determine what rules the executive branch choses to put in place. There is no constitutional right for the press to access to anything in the government. Do you think the executive branch has the power to tell the courts they have to have live TV coverage in every proceeding?

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[Conservative from Georgia]

You're the liar.
I said I agree with the post.
But because you hate me and don't want to take on a Moderator, you aim your weak fire at me.
**** off.

You agreed with the dumbass who said the judge gave the press the right to “unfettered” access to the executive.
Then you try to defend yourself by repeating that you agreed with the dumbass.

 

[OKTexas]

Thanks for your verdict, Your Honor.

Of course you can quote the portion of the Constitution that would prove me wrong, RIGHT?????

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[Conservative from Georgia]

Of course you can quote the portion of the Constitution that would prove me wrong, RIGHT?????

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You're the one who needs proof to your lie that the judge gave the press "unfettered" access. Liar.

 

[Lockback]

You agreed with the dumbass who said the judge gave the press the right to “unfettered” access to the executive.
Then you try to defend yourself by repeating that you agreed with the dumbass.
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The dumbass in this conversation is you.
As has been said, you don't have to have access to the Pentagon or the White House or your toilet to report on it.
By the way, you're a fraud. You're no "Conservative" and Ronald Reagan would be ashamed of you.
You're a lying fraud.

 

[Conservative from Georgia]

The dumbass in this conversation is you.
As has been said, you don't have to have access to the Pentagon or the White House or your toilet to report on it.

Deal: The Gateway Pundit and other right wing outlets will join the New York Times in working from outside.

 

[OKTexas]

You're the one who needs proof to your lie that the judge gave the press "unfettered" access. Liar.

I never said that's what the judge said, I stated what freedom of the press is. And just so you don't misquote me again, here's exactly what I said:

The judge should try educating themself on the separation of powers. Freedom of the press is freedom to print a story, it's not unfettered access to the executive branch. I hope they appeal this, the ruling should be reversed.

Now I'll renew my challenge, show me in the Constitution where I got it wrong.

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[Darkwind]

Will be overturned.