Hobby Lobby Still Covers Vasectomies And Viagra

[jillian]

"Extreme hypocrisy"? You really don't see the difference between vasectomies/viagra and the morning after pill? It's very simple: The morning after pill kills life. Vasectomies and viagra do not.

What a company chooses to cover in its health plan should be its business. If you don't like the health coverage, go find another job. No one is forced to work at Hobby Lobby.

Birth control pills do not kill anything.

Yes, the morning after pill does kill. What the morning after pill does , is not let the egg and sperm that already met implant. To a lot of people that is an abortion because it they believe as I do life begins at conception

you are free to believe what you believe.

now stay away from everyone else.

 

[Lovebears65]

Birth control pills do not kill anything.

Yes, the morning after pill does kill. What the morning after pill does , is not let the egg and sperm that already met implant. To a lot of people that is an abortion because it they believe as I do life begins at conception

you are free to believe what you believe.

now stay away from everyone else.

yeah you tell hobby lobby to stay out of your bedroom but pay for it as well. Cant have it both ways

 

[boilermaker55]

They even invest in the pharmaceutical companies that make the drugs they are against supplying for their workers in health care packages.
Wrap your brain around that hypocrisy.
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Hobby Lobby -- now free to drop emergency "morning after" pills and intrauterine devices from its workers' health insurance plans -- has given no indication that it plans to stop helping its male employees obtain erectile dysfunction treatments.

The Supreme Court ruled Monday that the craft store chain, owned by evangelical Christians, doesn't have to pay for health care coverage of contraceptives prohibited by its owners' religion.

But pills and pumps that help a man stiffen his penis in preparation for sex are perfectly acceptable.

Evangelical Christians have long argued that life begins at conception, and therefore that medical procedures that disrupt the first stages of pregnancy amount to murder. In the case of Hobby Lobby, this extends to a woman taking pills such as Plan B, Next Choice or Ella, any of which would prevent her ovaries from releasing an egg that could be fertilized after unprotected sex.

Perhaps taking a note from Catholic Church's opposition to sterilization, Hobby Lobby also objected to long-term birth control methods such as IUDs, which can cost women up to $1,000.

But that does not explain why Hobby Lobby doesn't object to covering the cost of its male employees' vasectomies.

MORE: Hobby Lobby Still Covers Vasectomies And Viagra

This seems like extreme hypocrisy to me.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Hobby Lobby -- now free to drop emergency "morning after" pills and intrauterine devices from its workers' health insurance plans -- has given no indication that it plans to stop helping its male employees obtain erectile dysfunction treatments.

The Supreme Court ruled Monday that the craft store chain, owned by evangelical Christians, doesn't have to pay for health care coverage of contraceptives prohibited by its owners' religion.

But pills and pumps that help a man stiffen his penis in preparation for sex are perfectly acceptable.

Evangelical Christians have long argued that life begins at conception, and therefore that medical procedures that disrupt the first stages of pregnancy amount to murder. In the case of Hobby Lobby, this extends to a woman taking pills such as Plan B, Next Choice or Ella, any of which would prevent her ovaries from releasing an egg that could be fertilized after unprotected sex.

Perhaps taking a note from Catholic Church's opposition to sterilization, Hobby Lobby also objected to long-term birth control methods such as IUDs, which can cost women up to $1,000.

But that does not explain why Hobby Lobby doesn't object to covering the cost of its male employees' vasectomies.

MORE: Hobby Lobby Still Covers Vasectomies And Viagra

This seems like extreme hypocrisy to me.

Say it with me now: "Not my beliefs, not my conscience, not my company, NONE OF MY BUSINESS." Repeat until it sinks into your tiny brain.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Hobby Lobby -- now free to drop emergency "morning after" pills and intrauterine devices from its workers' health insurance plans -- has given no indication that it plans to stop helping its male employees obtain erectile dysfunction treatments.

The Supreme Court ruled Monday that the craft store chain, owned by evangelical Christians, doesn't have to pay for health care coverage of contraceptives prohibited by its owners' religion.

But pills and pumps that help a man stiffen his penis in preparation for sex are perfectly acceptable.

Evangelical Christians have long argued that life begins at conception, and therefore that medical procedures that disrupt the first stages of pregnancy amount to murder. In the case of Hobby Lobby, this extends to a woman taking pills such as Plan B, Next Choice or Ella, any of which would prevent her ovaries from releasing an egg that could be fertilized after unprotected sex.

Perhaps taking a note from Catholic Church's opposition to sterilization, Hobby Lobby also objected to long-term birth control methods such as IUDs, which can cost women up to $1,000.

But that does not explain why Hobby Lobby doesn't object to covering the cost of its male employees' vasectomies.

MORE: Hobby Lobby Still Covers Vasectomies And Viagra

This seems like extreme hypocrisy to me.

Neither impact a zygote, and Viagra may encourage fertility. Religious beliefs may often spliit hairs, yes, but consistancy is not a Constitutional requirement, Hobby Lobby prevailed on the primary issue before the Court.

More to the point, proving consistency by SOMEONE ELSE'S STANDARDS is not a Constitutional requirement, or any other frigging requirement. Hobby Lobby's owners don't have to justify their beliefs to anyone in order to have the right to exercise them.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I don't care if they cover hair plugs and not fertility treatments.. their choice

You wouldn't think you'd have to explain that to the "CHOICE!" crowd, but we all know the only "choice" they REALLY stand for is infanticide.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Hobby Lobby Still Covers Vasectomies And Viagra

And sixteen types of birth control...

What about the ones they will no longer cover? It ain't one-size-fits-all.

What about 'em? You want 'em, you buy 'em. This your first encounter with the concept that health insurance doesn't cover every-damned-thing you want, every-damned-time you want it?

 

[Cecilie1200]

This nonsense would end quickly if men could get pregnant.

Believe it or not, THAT is hypocrisy, and not everyone is a self-absorbed hypocrite like you. Please don't project your incredibly subjective "I only believe in it when it benefits me" moral pretenses onto everyone else.

 

[Meathead]

Are there government mandates that viagra and vasectomies must be covered?

Fair question methinks.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Lakhota and a ficus: What's the difference?

The ficus is decorative.

 

[Cecilie1200]

This is the really scary part of the Supreme Court Hobby Lobby decision:

'Hobby Lobby' Is Just the Beginning: A Flood of Corporate Religious Objections Is Coming

It is duly noted that you are "really scared" by the idea of people having and exercising freedom of conscience with no need whatsoever to justify their beliefs to you in order to have a legal right to them.

Thanks for sharing.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Hobby Lobby -- now free to drop emergency "morning after" pills and intrauterine devices from its workers' health insurance plans -- has given no indication that it plans to stop helping its male employees obtain erectile dysfunction treatments.

The Supreme Court ruled Monday that the craft store chain, owned by evangelical Christians, doesn't have to pay for health care coverage of contraceptives prohibited by its owners' religion.

But pills and pumps that help a man stiffen his penis in preparation for sex are perfectly acceptable.

Evangelical Christians have long argued that life begins at conception, and therefore that medical procedures that disrupt the first stages of pregnancy amount to murder. In the case of Hobby Lobby, this extends to a woman taking pills such as Plan B, Next Choice or Ella, any of which would prevent her ovaries from releasing an egg that could be fertilized after unprotected sex.

Perhaps taking a note from Catholic Church's opposition to sterilization, Hobby Lobby also objected to long-term birth control methods such as IUDs, which can cost women up to $1,000.

But that does not explain why Hobby Lobby doesn't object to covering the cost of its male employees' vasectomies.

MORE: Hobby Lobby Still Covers Vasectomies And Viagra

This seems like extreme hypocrisy to me.

I really don't care about this. It's not that big of an issue, and the fact is women can still purchase their own birth control; they'll just have to pay for it. What I am curious to see though, is whether the cost savings on premiums will be passed on to the insured employees or if companies that choose not to offer this coverage keep the savings for the company. Not offering this coverage from insurance plans will reduce the cost of those plans. Is Hobby Lobby going to pass those savings on to its employees or not?

What's actually likely to happen is an accommodation similar to the one that Catholic employers like Notre Dame University have: a separate prescription benefit plan that just covers contraception, which is paid for without employer contributions. I see them a couple of times a day at my job.

 

[Cecilie1200]

8 Other Laws That Could Be Ignored Now That Christians Get To Pick And Choose

Hobby Lobby is just the beginning...

Your inability to control people and dictate their consciences REALLY scares and upsets you, doesn't it? I'm loving every second of watching you panic about the possibility of losing even more ability to oppress people in the future.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Hobby Lobby -- now free to drop emergency "morning after" pills and intrauterine devices from its workers' health insurance plans -- has given no indication that it plans to stop helping its male employees obtain erectile dysfunction treatments.

The Supreme Court ruled Monday that the craft store chain, owned by evangelical Christians, doesn't have to pay for health care coverage of contraceptives prohibited by its owners' religion.

But pills and pumps that help a man stiffen his penis in preparation for sex are perfectly acceptable.

Evangelical Christians have long argued that life begins at conception, and therefore that medical procedures that disrupt the first stages of pregnancy amount to murder. In the case of Hobby Lobby, this extends to a woman taking pills such as Plan B, Next Choice or Ella, any of which would prevent her ovaries from releasing an egg that could be fertilized after unprotected sex.

Perhaps taking a note from Catholic Church's opposition to sterilization, Hobby Lobby also objected to long-term birth control methods such as IUDs, which can cost women up to $1,000.

But that does not explain why Hobby Lobby doesn't object to covering the cost of its male employees' vasectomies.

MORE: Hobby Lobby Still Covers Vasectomies And Viagra

This seems like extreme hypocrisy to me.

Of course it is. They hate women and want to control them.

You really feel "controlled" by people refusing to take part in your life, do you, Punkin? It must really chap your fat ass, all those people out there who "control" you by refusing to even acknowledge that you exist, huh?

 

[Cecilie1200]

Bible says not to castrate the male of any species whether beast or man. Vasectomy isn't castration, but the effect is identical.

Not to castrate the male of any species; neither a man, nor a domestic or wild beast, nor a fowl (Lev. 22:24)

By doing so, you're breaking that commandment and this one,

To be fruitful and multiply (Gen. 1:28)

If you can have children (otherwise a vasectomy is redundant) but you prevent yourself from being able to, you're disobeying God.

Do I have to explain yet again that nothing in the First Amendment requires anyone to run their beliefs past you and see if they meet your standards before that person has the right to exercise those beliefs? Whether or not you agree with what Hobby Lobby's owners believe and how they practice it is irrelevant. Please, PLEASE, could everyone wrap their brains around the simple fact that NO ONE FUCKING ASKED YOUR OPINION.

God, this has become such a nation of judgemental voyeurs. We should replace the Statue of Liberty with a giant statue of Gladys Kravitz (the nosy neighbor from "Bewitched").

 

[Cecilie1200]

I'm gonna go down to Hobby Lobby and spend some money, stop by Chik Fil A for lunch, then watch Duck Dynasty. Piss on the haters, and God Bless America.

Have fun, there store up here in Princeton, New Jersey is a mess. No directory, no signage, nothing to tell you where or how to find something. It's a huge facility designed to have the customers wander the aisles, perhaps looking for the framing section or paper stock, but first you endure aisles of dopey chotchkees that would make any double-wide trailer look like a palace.

Well, there you go. What the fuck kind of sane person would be in New Jersey, anyway?

The store right up the street from my house here in Tucson is lovely: clean, well-organized, and staffed by friendly, knowledgeable people.

I wouldn't use the state of New Jersey for my kitty's litter box.

 

[Samson]

Why don't these Christian zealots have a problem with semen being imprisoned in a man's testicles after having a vasectomy? That's a lot of babies going to waste.

I don't know.




But what I DO know is that you seem strangely fascinated with imprisoned semen.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Holy crap, I'm heading down to Hobby Lobby right now.
Guardian Columnist Calls For Women To Have Sex Inside Hobby Lobby Stores In protest Of SCOTUS Ruling | Conservative Byte

Don't bother. They're liberal women. I guarantee you, you don't want to know that those broads THINK about sex, let alone have it, let alone want to watch them have it.

 

[Samson]

I'm gonna go down to Hobby Lobby and spend some money, stop by Chik Fil A for lunch, then watch Duck Dynasty. Piss on the haters, and God Bless America.

Have fun, there store up here in Princeton, New Jersey is a mess. No directory, no signage, nothing to tell you where or how to find something. It's a huge facility designed to have the customers wander the aisles, perhaps looking for the framing section or paper stock, but first you endure aisles of dopey chotchkees that would make any double-wide trailer look like a palace.

Well, there you go. What the fuck kind of sane person would be in New Jersey, anyway?

The store right up the street from my house here in Tucson is lovely: clean, well-organized, and staffed by friendly, knowledgeable people.

I wouldn't use the state of New Jersey for my kitty's litter box.

I'll be there MTW next week.




Hope I can recover the next week in Texas.....then the week after in Alberta.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Why don't these Christian zealots have a problem with semen being imprisoned in a man's testicles after having a vasectomy? That's a lot of babies going to waste.

Can you show us a Christian who believes life begins BEFORE conception?

Those who believe masturbation is a sin?

I don't think the perceived sinfulness in masturbation centers around a belief that sperm are individual organisms.