History According to Glenn Beck

[Nosmo King]

You obviuosly do not live in AL.

No, but I've been there! Montgomery to Birmingham in three lovely weeks one spring. Nice place to visit, as the saying goes...

Birmingham.

Ugh.

I spent a week there one afternoon.

A lunch at Dreamland Barbecue would have changed your whole outlook!

 

[uscitizen]

So accusing people of being communist is anti-American? Would that apply to those that call people nazi's? That's what Pelosi and other democratic leaders think of the tea-partiers. So again I ask what makes McCarthy anti-American? Obviously you believe anyone that has the opinion that some in govt. are or maybe communist is somehow anti-American. And here I thought freedom of speech was very American.

Umm no one pays any attention if I call you a nazi. You Nazi.
But McCarty was not just a nobody.

Your minimalization attempt failz.

So you're saying I have the freedom to express my opinion but a U.S. Senator doesn't. Interesting.

He does not have that right in the way in which he did it.
Only an extreme political hack/parrot would defend McCarty.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

MaCarthy atacked POLITICAL RIVALS by ACCUSING them of being communists.



McCarthyism is the politically motivated practice of making accusations of disloyalty, subversion, or treason without proper regard for evidence. The term specifically describes activities associated with the period in the United States known as the Second Red Scare, lasting roughly from the late 1940s to the late 1950s and characterized by heightened fears of communist influence on American institutions and espionage by Soviet agents. Originally coined to criticize the anti-communist pursuits of U.S. Senator Joseph McCarthy, "McCarthyism" soon took on a broader meaning, describing the excesses of similar efforts. The term is also now used more generally to describe reckless, unsubstantiated accusations, as well as demagogic attacks on the character or patriotism of political adversaries.





HAVE YOU NO SHAME?

So accusing people of being communist is anti-American? Would that apply to those that call people nazi's? That's what Pelosi and other democratic leaders think of the tea-partiers. So again I ask what makes McCarthy anti-American? Obviously you believe anyone that has the opinion that some in govt. are or maybe communist is somehow anti-American. And here I thought freedom of speech was very American.

Here's the scoop! Witch hunts and accusations are not the American way. Here, you are considered innocent until PROVEN guilty! Peoples reputations, careers and lives were ruined by McCarthy and his lunatic rampages. That's Un-American.

"Here, you are considered innocent until PROVEN guilty" I didn't get that sense from the Mom forces kid to kill pet rat thread. As a matter of fact most people are condemned in the media long before guilt as been proven.

So calling tea-partiers neo-nazi's would be un-American?

 

[uscitizen]

So accusing people of being communist is anti-American? Would that apply to those that call people nazi's? That's what Pelosi and other democratic leaders think of the tea-partiers. So again I ask what makes McCarthy anti-American? Obviously you believe anyone that has the opinion that some in govt. are or maybe communist is somehow anti-American. And here I thought freedom of speech was very American.

Here's the scoop! Witch hunts and accusations are not the American way. Here, you are considered innocent until PROVEN guilty! Peoples reputations, careers and lives were ruined by McCarthy and his lunatic rampages. That's Un-American.

"Here, you are considered innocent until PROVEN guilty" I didn't get that sense from the Mom forces kid to kill pet rat thread. As a matter of fact most people are condemned in the media long before guilt as been proven.

So calling tea-partiers neo-nazi's would be un-American?

If done by an elected official, yes.

Especially if you had them brought in front of a govt panel based on your say so in the matter.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Umm no one pays any attention if I call you a nazi. You Nazi.
But McCarty was not just a nobody.

Your minimalization attempt failz.

So you're saying I have the freedom to express my opinion but a U.S. Senator doesn't. Interesting.

He does not have that right in the way in which he did it.
Only an extreme political hack/parrot would defend McCarty.

I'm not defending McCathy per se, I'm defending the right to speak freely.

 

[uscitizen]

So you're saying I have the freedom to express my opinion but a U.S. Senator doesn't. Interesting.

He does not have that right in the way in which he did it.
Only an extreme political hack/parrot would defend McCarty.

I'm not defending McCathy per se, I'm defending the right to speak freely.

speaking is one thing, abusing their govt position is another.

All elected officials swear to uphold the constitution.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Here's the scoop! Witch hunts and accusations are not the American way. Here, you are considered innocent until PROVEN guilty! Peoples reputations, careers and lives were ruined by McCarthy and his lunatic rampages. That's Un-American.

"Here, you are considered innocent until PROVEN guilty" I didn't get that sense from the Mom forces kid to kill pet rat thread. As a matter of fact most people are condemned in the media long before guilt as been proven.

So calling tea-partiers neo-nazi's would be un-American?

If done by an elected official, yes.

Especially if you had them brought in front of a govt panel based on your say so in the matter.

What other labels used by elected officials would you consider to be un-American? Liars? Racist? Socialist?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

He does not have that right in the way in which he did it.
Only an extreme political hack/parrot would defend McCarty.

I'm not defending McCathy per se, I'm defending the right to speak freely.

speaking is one thing, abusing their govt position is another.

All elected officials swear to uphold the constitution.

Was McCarthy ever charged with abusing his position? Or is that just something you pulled out your ass? Isn't freedom of speech part of the constitution?

 

[Cold Fusion38]

No, enlighten us.

MaCarthy atacked POLITICAL RIVALS by ACCUSING them of being communists.



McCarthyism is the politically motivated practice of making accusations of disloyalty, subversion, or treason without proper regard for evidence. The term specifically describes activities associated with the period in the United States known as the Second Red Scare, lasting roughly from the late 1940s to the late 1950s and characterized by heightened fears of communist influence on American institutions and espionage by Soviet agents. Originally coined to criticize the anti-communist pursuits of U.S. Senator Joseph McCarthy, "McCarthyism" soon took on a broader meaning, describing the excesses of similar efforts. The term is also now used more generally to describe reckless, unsubstantiated accusations, as well as demagogic attacks on the character or patriotism of political adversaries.





HAVE YOU NO SHAME?

So accusing people of being communist is anti-American? Would that apply to those that call people nazi's? That's what Pelosi and other democratic leaders think of the tea-partiers. So again I ask what makes McCarthy anti-American? Obviously you believe anyone that has the opinion that some in govt. are or maybe communist is somehow anti-American. And here I thought freedom of speech was very American.

He didn't just ACCUSE he MIS-used his power for political WITCH HUNTS! I can't BELIEVE you are here DEFENDING McCarthy. WOW just WOW!

 

[Cold Fusion38]

YouTube - Army McCarthy Hearings "Have you no decency"

What was the result of those hearings?

What COULD the result have been?

 

[Cold Fusion38]

So accusing people of being communist is anti-American? Would that apply to those that call people nazi's? That's what Pelosi and other democratic leaders think of the tea-partiers. So again I ask what makes McCarthy anti-American? Obviously you believe anyone that has the opinion that some in govt. are or maybe communist is somehow anti-American. And here I thought freedom of speech was very American.

Umm no one pays any attention if I call you a nazi. You Nazi.
But McCarty was not just a nobody.

Your minimalization attempt failz.

So you're saying I have the freedom to express my opinion but a U.S. Senator doesn't. Interesting.

It wasn't an off handed comment it was a political WITCH HUNT!!!

 

[uscitizen]

I'm not defending McCathy per se, I'm defending the right to speak freely.

speaking is one thing, abusing their govt position is another.

All elected officials swear to uphold the constitution.

Was McCarthy ever charged with abusing his position? Or is that just something you pulled out your ass? Isn't freedom of speech part of the constitution?

again his crime was abusing his position.
Just because he was not charged means nothing.

 

[Cold Fusion38]

So accusing people of being communist is anti-American? Would that apply to those that call people nazi's? That's what Pelosi and other democratic leaders think of the tea-partiers. So again I ask what makes McCarthy anti-American? Obviously you believe anyone that has the opinion that some in govt. are or maybe communist is somehow anti-American. And here I thought freedom of speech was very American.

Here's the scoop! Witch hunts and accusations are not the American way. Here, you are considered innocent until PROVEN guilty! Peoples reputations, careers and lives were ruined by McCarthy and his lunatic rampages. That's Un-American.

"Here, you are considered innocent until PROVEN guilty" I didn't get that sense from the Mom forces kid to kill pet rat thread. As a matter of fact most people are condemned in the media long before guilt as been proven.

So calling tea-partiers neo-nazi's would be un-American?

NO!!! But if Pelosi ordered the FBI to INVESTIGATE say GLEN BECK accusing him of being a NAZI that would be an abuse of power.
Do you understand the difference?

 

[Cold Fusion38]

Yeah that's what we should do we should bring the Tea Party organizers if front of CONGRESS and INVESTIGATE them with EVERY TOOL available. We should TAP THEIR PHONES. We should SUBPEONA their BANK RECORDS! YEAH let's have at em.

 

[slackjawed]

McCarthy made his own issue. At a time when the US went from soviet allies to fear of communism, he was elected as the senator from Wisconsin. he was very popular, and was asked to speak at many public events, republican and democrat. At a speech before a republican women's organization, it is claimed he produced a list of communist sympathizers that worked for the us state dept. There is no know transcript or recording of this speech. The speech went over so well that the rest of the senate wanted to jump on the bandwagon for political gain and put McCarthy in charge of a senate commitee to investigate unamerican activities. He, as chairmen, allowed the hearings to be televised, something that a senator that really believed there was threat to national security would not do. The televised hearings were so successful that many large employers at the time complained they suffered more absenteism than usual because people were staying home from work to watch.
In the end, because of his questioning tv and movie stars, the screen actors guild went after him in the press, even setting him up to fail in the popular view. Reagan played a role in opposing McCarthy.
In the end, McCarthy was censured by the US Senate for conduct violations, and lost his next bid for reelection.
He died of hepatitus in 1957, and his name is used now to describe someone who makes accusations without proof.
Incidently, one of McCarthy's favorite justifications for his actions was the statement, "If you have nothing to hide then you don't have any reason to fear being questioned by my committee."

That statement, or a variation thereof, is the one thing that anyone on any side of the political spectrum can say that will get them labeled a "mcCarthyist".

 

[Lonestar_logic]

MaCarthy atacked POLITICAL RIVALS by ACCUSING them of being communists.



McCarthyism is the politically motivated practice of making accusations of disloyalty, subversion, or treason without proper regard for evidence. The term specifically describes activities associated with the period in the United States known as the Second Red Scare, lasting roughly from the late 1940s to the late 1950s and characterized by heightened fears of communist influence on American institutions and espionage by Soviet agents. Originally coined to criticize the anti-communist pursuits of U.S. Senator Joseph McCarthy, "McCarthyism" soon took on a broader meaning, describing the excesses of similar efforts. The term is also now used more generally to describe reckless, unsubstantiated accusations, as well as demagogic attacks on the character or patriotism of political adversaries.





HAVE YOU NO SHAME?

So accusing people of being communist is anti-American? Would that apply to those that call people nazi's? That's what Pelosi and other democratic leaders think of the tea-partiers. So again I ask what makes McCarthy anti-American? Obviously you believe anyone that has the opinion that some in govt. are or maybe communist is somehow anti-American. And here I thought freedom of speech was very American.

He didn't just ACCUSE he MIS-used his power for political WITCH HUNTS! I can't BELIEVE you are here DEFENDING McCarthy. WOW just WOW!

What evidence do you have that supports your claim that McCarthy abused or mis-used his power.

 

[uscitizen]

Ahh, Slack, thanks for the info.
Did I hear that statement in support of the Patriot Act?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

YouTube - Army McCarthy Hearings "Have you no decency"

What was the result of those hearings?

What COULD the result have been?

You don't know the result? I do, after hearing 32 witnesses and two million words of testimony, the committee concluded that McCarthy himself had not exercised any improper influence on Schine's behalf.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

People who get degrees in History aren't even taught the truth about these bloodthirsty "progressives" in our liberal colleges today...

It's no wonder ignorant kids buy posters of Mao and and wear T-shirts of Che...

I think a lot of them simply want to be seen as anti-authority, or rebels of some sort. Of course, if they did understand the history of these people then they may well choose to find a different t-shirt or poster.

Is this special on again soon? I want to watch it and see what he is talking about.

Does hi bring up how Che hated blacks and made TONS of comments about how they should be killed?
Does he bring up the 10's of millions of chinese that Mao, Anita Dunn's hero, starved to death?
Does he bring up stalin's ethnic cleansing where he killed more jews and poor people than hitler ever could have even dreamed of?
Does he bring up the fact that Nazism and Communism are almost identical in their origins and their behaviors?

If he doesn't then his video is lame, if he does i MUST see it.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Umm no one pays any attention if I call you a nazi. You Nazi.
But McCarty was not just a nobody.

Your minimalization attempt failz.

So you're saying I have the freedom to express my opinion but a U.S. Senator doesn't. Interesting.

It wasn't an off handed comment it was a political WITCH HUNT!!!

Define "witch hunt".