Historic Notre-Dame cathedral on fire

[ABikerSailor]

ON NOTRE DAME- FROM MAXIME LEPANTE A FRIEND IN PARIS
Posted By Ruth King on April 16th, 2019

Notre-Dame was one of the most important jewels of all human history. It started the “gothic” architecture revolution, that was, from 12th to 15th century called “francigenum opus” (“French art”) before being called “gothic” by the Italians. It’s the epitome of Western civilization and Christian art. The framing of the roof, which was one of the biggest masterpieces of human carpentry, is permanently destroyed. The stained glasses (biggest and most ancient rose windows in Europe) are probably saved.
In 2016, 2 veiled Muslim women tried to detonate a car filled with explosives in front of Notre-Dame (Notre-Dame de Paris bombing attempt - Wikipedia).
At the beginning of March, an illegal Muslim immigrant tried to burn down the Saint-Sulpice church (http://www.leparisien.fr/paris-75/p...n-etait-pas-accidentel-18-03-2019-8034678.php).
At mid-March, an illegal Muslim immigrant tried to burn down the organ of the Saint-Denis basilica (another jewel) and destroyed stained glass (http://www.leparisien.fr/paris-75/p...n-etait-pas-accidentel-18-03-2019-8034678.php).
On Twitter, thousands of Muslims are rejoycing and saying that they are happy that Notre-Dame was destroyed ! (Des réactions de joie suite à l'incendie de Notre-Dame (MàJ) - Fdesouche)
And when our churches, our cathedrals, our cemetaries, our monuments, are destroyed by Muslim immigrants, Macron uses our policemen to protect… the mosques !!! (La surveillance des lieux de culte renforcée en France après l'attaque terroriste en Nouvelle-Zélande)

http://www.ruthfullyyours.com/2019/04/16/on-notre-dame-from-maxime-lepante-a-friend-in-paris/

Your post is basically garbage propaganda and the kind of innuendo that right wing propaganda uses to get people the wrong impression, in this case that Notre Dame was fired by Muslims.

The lack of damage at Notre Dame is basically a miracle. All they lost really was the roof, not even much of the ceiling. I suggest that use metal this time to hold up the roof.... Vive la France!

They're gonna more than likely have to use metal. Seems that there are no longer any trees big enough in France to rebuild it like it was.

 

[OldLady]

A miracle.

The Chaplain of the fire brigade ran in and saved the Crown of Thorns and the Blessed Sacrament.
The famous statue of Mary and Jesus appears undamaged-

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Amazing that much remained intact

It was great work by the Paris fire department. They risked their lives to go in there and remove irreplaceable items and to keep the fire from taking the entire structure. Looking at some of the "after" pictures, it amazes me so much was saved.

 

[OldLady]

There's been quite a lot of church fires and church attacks recently. The media hasn't really been reporting on them and they've been shutting down any discussion about it. I think the reason is because they donlt want the public to be aware of the extent of the global trend and to be able to place it all into context and start asking tougher questions.

And surprisingly the mainstream cable news entertainment programming platforms n whole have been very hesitant to blame any groups, there's been a crackdown at FOX particularly since the recent PA Synagague. Then they also suspended Pirro immediately after her criticism of Omar.

Here, FOX News cuts off any discussion about them...Cavuto in the first one and Smith in the second one. Clearly they're running interference for the State Department, even if this particular incident has quickly been publicly abeled an accident. They're still investigating it, no doubt about it. With churches and synagogues under attack all over the world, you bet they are. That's likely why the media is shutting down and avoiding any deeper discussion about it. And it's likely why they have been hesitant to blame ay specific groups with this one.

You don't think it is partly not to encourage copy cats?

 

[Polishprince]

Macron says he wants to rebuild Notre Dame in just 5 years, but it took Louis VII 182 years to build the joint in the first place. I don't think his goal is realistic.

Further, at the time ND was built, Paris France was a Christian town. Now is mostly jihadi and atheist. The Notre Dame property is owned by the French Government.

Should the replacement structure continue to embrace the sectarianism of Notre Dame, or should it become more oecumenical in its mission? Seems like Notre Dame as it was violated the wall of separation.

 

[Desperado]

The Same People did Something Again

 

[rightwinger]

ON NOTRE DAME- FROM MAXIME LEPANTE A FRIEND IN PARIS
Posted By Ruth King on April 16th, 2019

Notre-Dame was one of the most important jewels of all human history. It started the “gothic” architecture revolution, that was, from 12th to 15th century called “francigenum opus” (“French art”) before being called “gothic” by the Italians. It’s the epitome of Western civilization and Christian art. The framing of the roof, which was one of the biggest masterpieces of human carpentry, is permanently destroyed. The stained glasses (biggest and most ancient rose windows in Europe) are probably saved.
In 2016, 2 veiled Muslim women tried to detonate a car filled with explosives in front of Notre-Dame (Notre-Dame de Paris bombing attempt - Wikipedia).
At the beginning of March, an illegal Muslim immigrant tried to burn down the Saint-Sulpice church (http://www.leparisien.fr/paris-75/p...n-etait-pas-accidentel-18-03-2019-8034678.php).
At mid-March, an illegal Muslim immigrant tried to burn down the organ of the Saint-Denis basilica (another jewel) and destroyed stained glass (http://www.leparisien.fr/paris-75/p...n-etait-pas-accidentel-18-03-2019-8034678.php).
On Twitter, thousands of Muslims are rejoycing and saying that they are happy that Notre-Dame was destroyed ! (Des réactions de joie suite à l'incendie de Notre-Dame (MàJ) - Fdesouche)
And when our churches, our cathedrals, our cemetaries, our monuments, are destroyed by Muslim immigrants, Macron uses our policemen to protect… the mosques !!! (La surveillance des lieux de culte renforcée en France après l'attaque terroriste en Nouvelle-Zélande)

http://www.ruthfullyyours.com/2019/04/16/on-notre-dame-from-maxime-lepante-a-friend-in-paris/

Your post is basically garbage propaganda and the kind of innuendo that right wing propaganda uses to get people the wrong impression, in this case that Notre Dame was fired by Muslims.

The lack of damage at Notre Dame is basically a miracle. All they lost really was the roof, not even much of the ceiling. I suggest that use metal this time to hold up the roof.... Vive la France!

They're gonna more than likely have to use metal. Seems that there are no longer any trees big enough in France to rebuild it like it was.

Makes no sense to use wood just because they didn’t have steel 700 years ago

 

[Polishprince]

ON NOTRE DAME- FROM MAXIME LEPANTE A FRIEND IN PARIS
Posted By Ruth King on April 16th, 2019

Notre-Dame was one of the most important jewels of all human history. It started the “gothic” architecture revolution, that was, from 12th to 15th century called “francigenum opus” (“French art”) before being called “gothic” by the Italians. It’s the epitome of Western civilization and Christian art. The framing of the roof, which was one of the biggest masterpieces of human carpentry, is permanently destroyed. The stained glasses (biggest and most ancient rose windows in Europe) are probably saved.
In 2016, 2 veiled Muslim women tried to detonate a car filled with explosives in front of Notre-Dame (Notre-Dame de Paris bombing attempt - Wikipedia).
At the beginning of March, an illegal Muslim immigrant tried to burn down the Saint-Sulpice church (http://www.leparisien.fr/paris-75/p...n-etait-pas-accidentel-18-03-2019-8034678.php).
At mid-March, an illegal Muslim immigrant tried to burn down the organ of the Saint-Denis basilica (another jewel) and destroyed stained glass (http://www.leparisien.fr/paris-75/p...n-etait-pas-accidentel-18-03-2019-8034678.php).
On Twitter, thousands of Muslims are rejoycing and saying that they are happy that Notre-Dame was destroyed ! (Des réactions de joie suite à l'incendie de Notre-Dame (MàJ) - Fdesouche)
And when our churches, our cathedrals, our cemetaries, our monuments, are destroyed by Muslim immigrants, Macron uses our policemen to protect… the mosques !!! (La surveillance des lieux de culte renforcée en France après l'attaque terroriste en Nouvelle-Zélande)

http://www.ruthfullyyours.com/2019/04/16/on-notre-dame-from-maxime-lepante-a-friend-in-paris/

Your post is basically garbage propaganda and the kind of innuendo that right wing propaganda uses to get people the wrong impression, in this case that Notre Dame was fired by Muslims.

The lack of damage at Notre Dame is basically a miracle. All they lost really was the roof, not even much of the ceiling. I suggest that use metal this time to hold up the roof.... Vive la France!

They're gonna more than likely have to use metal. Seems that there are no longer any trees big enough in France to rebuild it like it was.

Makes no sense to use wood just because they didn’t have steel 700 years ago

We've had steel since antiquity, RW. They just customarily didn't use it for construction when Notre Dame was initially built.

 

[Polishprince]

Huge black market in guns in Europe.

yet they have only a few hundred gun homicides a year compared to the tens of thousands we have.

We only have "tens of" thousands if you factor in suicides as well. Also, Europe doesn't have such a large african minority group to worry about. They're well on their way. They'll learn.

Suicide is still dead

So?

If someone wants to off themselves, and they don't have a firearm available, jumping off tall buildings, slashing one's wrist or immolating oneself are still available.

Including the number of gun suicides as gun deaths doesn't mean shit as those people are still dead whether they eat a bullet or commit hari-kari.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

. Did you go to a university to learn such stupidity?

First things first, my friend.

He needs to finish middle school first, then high school and THEN college.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

This thread is not about guns

 

[Mindful]

Whether or not Notre Dame's fire was an accident, there is an awful lot of Church destruction going on in Europe right now

 

[depotoo]

It is now being reported the first fire truck arrived 30 minutes after the first report, and the second, the crane truck, arrived an hour after that.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Whether or not Notre Dame's fire was an accident, there is an awful lot of Church destruction going on in Europe right now

And the source is patently obvious, yet people fear to name it.

 

[depotoo]

Officials dispute an arsonist being seen, as rumors fly, of man in yellow vest. They state it was a fire official checking on the firemen and the job they were doing.

 

[WillowTree]

It is now being reported the first fire truck arrived 30 minutes after the first report, and the second, the crane truck, arrived an hour after that.

Be careful, someone will jump up and call you a liar!

 

[Coyote]

Ubfi

There's been quite a lot of church fires and church attacks recently. The media hasn't really been reporting on them and they've been shutting down any discussion about it. I think the reason is because they donlt want the public to be aware of the extent of the global trend and to be able to place it all into context and start asking tougher questions.

And surprisingly the mainstream cable news entertainment programming platforms n whole have been very hesitant to blame any groups, there's been a crackdown at FOX particularly since the recent PA Synagague. Then they also suspended Pirro immediately after her criticism of Omar.

Here, FOX News cuts off any discussion about them...Cavuto in the first one and Smith in the second one. Clearly they're running interference for the State Department, even if this particular incident has quickly been publicly abeled an accident. They're still investigating it, no doubt about it. With churches and synagogues under attack all over the world, you bet they are. That's likely why the media is shutting down and avoiding any deeper discussion about it. And it's likely why they have been hesitant to blame ay specific groups with this one.

Mosques have been under attack as well as churches and synagogues.

 

[boedicca]

This is lovely.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Mosques have been under attack as well as churches and synagogues.

Yeah. I mentioned the synagogues, I purposefully left out the mosques, there's already a couple threads around here talkin about hey lets go kill us some em r fukin muslims. lol. Gosh. Ya know?

But, yeah, that's certainly significant.

 

[ABikerSailor]

You know, the firefighters were surprised to see how much had survived. One of the more surprising finds was that the organ was pretty much still whole, just a bit of smoke damage.

And, the fire fighters said that if there had been an air drop of water on the building, it would have collapsed the whole structure. There were people inside pulling stuff out and trying to put out the flames. If water had been air dropped, the church would have been damage even worse than it was.

Still think Trump was smart to suggest air dropping water to put out the fire?

 

[WillowTree]

You know, the firefighters were surprised to see how much had survived. One of the more surprising finds was that the organ was pretty much still whole, just a bit of smoke damage.

And, the fire fighters said that if there had been an air drop of water on the building, it would have collapsed the whole structure. There were people inside pulling stuff out and trying to put out the flames. If water had been air dropped, the church would have been damage even worse than it was.

Still think Trump was smart to suggest air dropping water to put out the fire?

I think he was trying to help and as always you bitches take an opportunity to slam him.