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^ thatThe far right's moral relativists fail in their defense of the Crusades and their attempts to deflect unlink the barbaric historical parts of both violent Christianity and Islam.
Good on Obama and moral Americans that they can distinguish the jihadists from the those Muslims who are not and who condemn the jihadists.
We have supposed Christians burning Muslims alive in Africa. KKK and Aryan supremacist groups use the Bible to justify their evil ways.
The Horrors of The Church and its Holy Inquisition
Why are you debating something that happened before the United States was even a nation or America was discovered by Columbus.^ thatThe far right's moral relativists fail in their defense of the Crusades and their attempts to deflect unlink the barbaric historical parts of both violent Christianity and Islam.
Good on Obama and moral Americans that they can distinguish the jihadists from the those Muslims who are not and who condemn the jihadists.
We have supposed Christians burning Muslims alive in Africa. KKK and Aryan supremacist groups use the Bible to justify their evil ways.
BTW- the inquisition puts the other sect of monotheism (monotheism = judaism, islam, christianity for those ignorant of the fact) christianity in a rather bad light
ISIS activists are extremists.Historians Weigh in on Obama s Comparison of ISIS Militants to Medieval Christian Crusaders - Yahoo
One was a war to reclaim land and access to holy sites and the other is the indiscriminate slaughter of civilians and captured personal.
Whenever I hear people say muslim this muslim that I remind them of the Christian crusaders.
Then they usually say, well they aren't true Christians.
Which I respond, well then ISIS aren't true Muslims.
Sorry...the holy book of islam condones what they are doing....the teachings of Jesus do not condone the evil done in the name of God.....
Massacre of Jerusalem by christian savages
Jews fought side-by-side with Muslim soldiers to defend Jerusalem against the Crusaders] Saint Louis University Professor Thomas Madden, author of A Concise History of the Crusades, claims the "Jewish Defenders" of the city knew the rules of warfare and retreated to their synagogue to "prepare for death" since the Crusaders had breached the outer walls.According to the Muslim chronicle of Ibn al-Qalanisi, "The Jews assembled in their synagogue, and the Franks burned it over their heads."The Crusaders "[circled] the screaming, flame-tortured humanity singing 'Christ We Adore Thee!' with their Crusader crosses held high." However, a contemporary Jewish communication does not corroborate the report that Jews were actually inside of the Synagogue when it was set fire. This letter was discovered among the Cairo Geniza collection in 1975 by historian Shelomo Dov Goitein.] Historians believe that it was written just two weeks after the siege, making it "the earliest account on the conquest in any language."[However, all sources agree that a synagogue was indeed burned during the siege.
Yeah....so.....it was a barbaric time...and the muslims were just as violent and brutal as any other group......and again....we are talking a time of primitive peoples........and we are talking about 2015 muslim behavior.....there is no comparison....Chritian society grew up....muslim society has stayed barbaric..........how about we focus on this week....not the 12th century.........
ISIS activists are extremists.Historians Weigh in on Obama s Comparison of ISIS Militants to Medieval Christian Crusaders - Yahoo
One was a war to reclaim land and access to holy sites and the other is the indiscriminate slaughter of civilians and captured personal.
Whenever I hear people say muslim this muslim that I remind them of the Christian crusaders.
Then they usually say, well they aren't true Christians.
Which I respond, well then ISIS aren't true Muslims.
Sorry...the holy book of islam condones what they are doing....the teachings of Jesus do not condone the evil done in the name of God.....
Massacre of Jerusalem by christian savages
Jews fought side-by-side with Muslim soldiers to defend Jerusalem against the Crusaders] Saint Louis University Professor Thomas Madden, author of A Concise History of the Crusades, claims the "Jewish Defenders" of the city knew the rules of warfare and retreated to their synagogue to "prepare for death" since the Crusaders had breached the outer walls.According to the Muslim chronicle of Ibn al-Qalanisi, "The Jews assembled in their synagogue, and the Franks burned it over their heads."The Crusaders "[circled] the screaming, flame-tortured humanity singing 'Christ We Adore Thee!' with their Crusader crosses held high." However, a contemporary Jewish communication does not corroborate the report that Jews were actually inside of the Synagogue when it was set fire. This letter was discovered among the Cairo Geniza collection in 1975 by historian Shelomo Dov Goitein.] Historians believe that it was written just two weeks after the siege, making it "the earliest account on the conquest in any language."[However, all sources agree that a synagogue was indeed burned during the siege.
Yeah....so.....it was a barbaric time...and the muslims were just as violent and brutal as any other group......and again....we are talking a time of primitive peoples........and we are talking about 2015 muslim behavior.....there is no comparison....Chritian society grew up....muslim society has stayed barbaric..........how about we focus on this week....not the 12th century.........
the point is christinity was and is not pure in its history
European christians extermination of Natives started with Christopher Columbus' arrival in San Salvador in 1492. Native population dropped dramatically over the next few decades. Some were directly murdered by Europeans. Others died indirectly as a result of contact with introduced diseases for which they had no resistance -- mainly smallpox, influenza, and measles.
Later European Christian invaders systematically murdered additional Aboriginal people, from the Canadian Arctic to South America. They used warfare, death marches, forced relocation to barren lands, destruction of their main food supply -- the Buffalo -- and poisoning. Some Europeans actually shot at Indians for target practice.
Oppression continued into the 20th century, through actions by governments and religious organizations which systematically destroyed Native culture and religious heritage. One present-day byproduct of this oppression is suicide. Today, Canadian Natives have the highest suicide rate of any identifiable population group in the world. Native North Americans are not far behind.
The genocide against American Natives was one of the most massive, and longest lasting genocidal campaigns in human history. It started, like all genocides, with the oppressor treating the victims as sub-humans. It continued until almost all Natives were wiped of the face of the earth, along with much of their language, culture and religion.
Killings for Christianity
^ thatThe far right's moral relativists fail in their defense of the Crusades and their attempts to deflect unlink the barbaric historical parts of both violent Christianity and Islam.
Good on Obama and moral Americans that they can distinguish the jihadists from the those Muslims who are not and who condemn the jihadists.
We have supposed Christians burning Muslims alive in Africa. KKK and Aryan supremacist groups use the Bible to justify their evil ways.
BTW- the inquisition puts the other sect of monotheism (monotheism = judaism, islam, christianity for those ignorant of the fact) christianity in a rather bad light
Stop your moral relativism?! Do you have any idea of the concept of irony.Christians took and sold slaves, Christians massacred civilian populations, so forth and so on.
Your argument would fail in any World Civ class. Stop your moral relativism
FFS, everybody took and sold slaves and massacred. Some cultures and religions left that far behind. Only the most backward today still do, or burn people alive in the name of their God!You are an absolute bottom-feeder Jakey.
Why are you debating something that happened before the United States was even a nation or America was discovered by Columbus.^ thatThe far right's moral relativists fail in their defense of the Crusades and their attempts to deflect unlink the barbaric historical parts of both violent Christianity and Islam.
Good on Obama and moral Americans that they can distinguish the jihadists from the those Muslims who are not and who condemn the jihadists.
We have supposed Christians burning Muslims alive in Africa. KKK and Aryan supremacist groups use the Bible to justify their evil ways.
BTW- the inquisition puts the other sect of monotheism (monotheism = judaism, islam, christianity for those ignorant of the fact) christianity in a rather bad light
Besides, you should be hammering the Vatican for this because this has absolutely nothing to do with America.
ISIS is doing worse now. You limp-wristed liberals want to rationalize it away.
Yeah, it was, physically and culturally. FO, your type is obsolete.ISIS activists are extremists.
Whenever I hear people say muslim this muslim that I remind them of the Christian crusaders.
Then they usually say, well they aren't true Christians.
Which I respond, well then ISIS aren't true Muslims.
Sorry...the holy book of islam condones what they are doing....the teachings of Jesus do not condone the evil done in the name of God.....
Massacre of Jerusalem by christian savages
Jews fought side-by-side with Muslim soldiers to defend Jerusalem against the Crusaders] Saint Louis University Professor Thomas Madden, author of A Concise History of the Crusades, claims the "Jewish Defenders" of the city knew the rules of warfare and retreated to their synagogue to "prepare for death" since the Crusaders had breached the outer walls.According to the Muslim chronicle of Ibn al-Qalanisi, "The Jews assembled in their synagogue, and the Franks burned it over their heads."The Crusaders "[circled] the screaming, flame-tortured humanity singing 'Christ We Adore Thee!' with their Crusader crosses held high." However, a contemporary Jewish communication does not corroborate the report that Jews were actually inside of the Synagogue when it was set fire. This letter was discovered among the Cairo Geniza collection in 1975 by historian Shelomo Dov Goitein.] Historians believe that it was written just two weeks after the siege, making it "the earliest account on the conquest in any language."[However, all sources agree that a synagogue was indeed burned during the siege.
Yeah....so.....it was a barbaric time...and the muslims were just as violent and brutal as any other group......and again....we are talking a time of primitive peoples........and we are talking about 2015 muslim behavior.....there is no comparison....Chritian society grew up....muslim society has stayed barbaric..........how about we focus on this week....not the 12th century.........
the point is christinity was and is not pure in its history
European christians extermination of Natives started with Christopher Columbus' arrival in San Salvador in 1492. Native population dropped dramatically over the next few decades. Some were directly murdered by Europeans. Others died indirectly as a result of contact with introduced diseases for which they had no resistance -- mainly smallpox, influenza, and measles.
Later European Christian invaders systematically murdered additional Aboriginal people, from the Canadian Arctic to South America. They used warfare, death marches, forced relocation to barren lands, destruction of their main food supply -- the Buffalo -- and poisoning. Some Europeans actually shot at Indians for target practice.
Oppression continued into the 20th century, through actions by governments and religious organizations which systematically destroyed Native culture and religious heritage. One present-day byproduct of this oppression is suicide. Today, Canadian Natives have the highest suicide rate of any identifiable population group in the world. Native North Americans are not far behind.
The genocide against American Natives was one of the most massive, and longest lasting genocidal campaigns in human history. It started, like all genocides, with the oppressor treating the victims as sub-humans. It continued until almost all Natives were wiped of the face of the earth, along with much of their language, culture and religion.
Killings for Christianity
it wasn't genocide.....get real....
Ya cause pointing out that YOU comparing current actions of Muslims to actions committed hundreds of years ago is us be moral relativists, But you comparing actins from hundreds of years ago to defend Muslims today is not right?"I would bet boko haram killed more people last month than the inquisition killed in it's entire existence"
Probably not true, and if so adds nothing of worth to the debate.
No Jakey. nothing you've postulated adds up unless you're willing to go back 1000 years ago at least. Your dogma is far beyond any reasonable pale.Stop your moral relativism?! Do you have any idea of the concept of irony.Christians took and sold slaves, Christians massacred civilian populations, so forth and so on.
Your argument would fail in any World Civ class. Stop your moral relativism
FFS, everybody took and sold slaves and massacred. Some cultures and religions left that far behind. Only the most backward today still do, or burn people alive in the name of their God!You are an absolute bottom-feeder Jakey.
You are a moral relativist, trying to ignore the KKK, the Aryan nations, the Christian fascism of central and eastern Europe flogged on by Germany in the1930s and 1940s that chased down Jews and Orthodox and Romany, the Christians burning Muslims in Africa today.
Yes the bolded above demonstrates you would not last in a World Civ class.
WTF do you think you are?
Libtards lack credibility.So what historians disagree? They are the ones that told everyone Columbus discovered America for centuries. They lack credibility.The crusades were self defense against a force that was attempting to destroy our civilization. Obama is anti-American and anti-western civilization.
One idiot to another.I agree with Obama. Fuck the haters.
"I would bet boko haram killed more people last month than the inquisition killed in it's entire existence"
Probably not true, and if so adds nothing of worth to the debate.
ISIS activists are extremists.Historians Weigh in on Obama s Comparison of ISIS Militants to Medieval Christian Crusaders - Yahoo
One was a war to reclaim land and access to holy sites and the other is the indiscriminate slaughter of civilians and captured personal.
Whenever I hear people say muslim this muslim that I remind them of the Christian crusaders.
Then they usually say, well they aren't true Christians.
Which I respond, well then ISIS aren't true Muslims.
Sorry...the holy book of islam condones what they are doing....the teachings of Jesus do not condone the evil done in the name of God.....
Massacre of Jerusalem by christian savages
Jews fought side-by-side with Muslim soldiers to defend Jerusalem against the Crusaders] Saint Louis University Professor Thomas Madden, author of A Concise History of the Crusades, claims the "Jewish Defenders" of the city knew the rules of warfare and retreated to their synagogue to "prepare for death" since the Crusaders had breached the outer walls.According to the Muslim chronicle of Ibn al-Qalanisi, "The Jews assembled in their synagogue, and the Franks burned it over their heads."The Crusaders "[circled] the screaming, flame-tortured humanity singing 'Christ We Adore Thee!' with their Crusader crosses held high." However, a contemporary Jewish communication does not corroborate the report that Jews were actually inside of the Synagogue when it was set fire. This letter was discovered among the Cairo Geniza collection in 1975 by historian Shelomo Dov Goitein.] Historians believe that it was written just two weeks after the siege, making it "the earliest account on the conquest in any language."[However, all sources agree that a synagogue was indeed burned during the siege.
Yeah....so.....it was a barbaric time...and the muslims were just as violent and brutal as any other group......and again....we are talking a time of primitive peoples........and we are talking about 2015 muslim behavior.....there is no comparison....Chritian society grew up....muslim society has stayed barbaric..........how about we focus on this week....not the 12th century.........
the point is Christianity was and is not pure in its history
European christians extermination of Natives started with Christopher Columbus' arrival in San Salvador in 1492. Native population dropped dramatically over the next few decades. Some were directly murdered by Europeans. Others died indirectly as a result of contact with introduced diseases for which they had no resistance -- mainly smallpox, influenza, and measles.
Later European Christian invaders systematically murdered additional Aboriginal people, from the Canadian Arctic to South America. They used warfare, death marches, forced relocation to barren lands, destruction of their main food supply -- the Buffalo -- and poisoning. Some Europeans actually shot at Indians for target practice.
Oppression continued into the 20th century, through actions by governments and religious organizations which systematically destroyed Native culture and religious heritage. One present-day byproduct of this oppression is suicide. Today, Canadian Natives have the highest suicide rate of any identifiable population group in the world. Native North Americans are not far behind.
The genocide against American Natives was one of the most massive, and longest lasting genocidal campaigns in human history. It started, like all genocides, with the oppressor treating the victims as sub-humans. It continued until almost all Natives were wiped of the face of the earth, along with much of their language, culture and religion.
Killings for Christianity
