Hispanics: The Democrats may have put themselves in a bind

[Mac1958]

Pretty interesting article below.

We've discussed this many times here, but the Democrats' approach to "minorities" as a whole may end up backfiring on them. It's beginning to look like, generally speaking, American Hispanics may be more conservative than American Blacks. And if that's true, the party's dependence on Identity Politics and other cultural tactics may be wearing thin for them. They may be facing a fork in the political road. And Hispanics represent 18% of the population, Democrats. (For that matter, I do very much wonder how American Blacks feel about some specific cultural issues)

In my half brown family, and my coincidentally half brown extended family (weird how that worked out), that's certainly the case. And I can tell you it would be more so, if it weren't for the current condition of the GOP.

Thoughts?

The GOP is gaining among Texas Hispanics. Women are leading the charge.

In places where Donald Trump made some of his biggest inroads with Hispanic voters, women are playing a key role in the Republican Party’s growth.

www.politico.com

"They want more border security or are staunchly against abortions. They feel their husbands, family members, neighbors and friends that are Border Patrol agents or are in law enforcement are being unfairly villainized by Democrats. They worry Democrats are hostile to the oil and gas industry, which provides many good-paying jobs in the state. They worry the left is forgetting family values and the value of work.

"Broadly, they also argue that Democrats outside of the Valley have miscalculated that Hispanics there are as progressive as Hispanic voters in more liberal strongholds such as California and New York, when in reality, they’re far more moderate."

 

[wamose]

Democrats don't like Blacks and Hispanics. They like slavery and that's how they view minorities. Too bad for Democrats that minorities are catching on to their jive.

 

[JoeB131]

Pretty interesting article below.

We've discussed this many times here, but the Democrats' approach to "minorities" as a whole may end up backfiring on them. It's beginning to look like, generally speaking, American Hispanics may be more conservative than American Blacks. And if that's true, the party's dependence on Identity Politics and other cultural tactics may be wearing thin for them. They may be facing a fork in the political road. And Hispanics represent 18% of the population, Democrats. (For that matter, I do very much wonder how American Blacks feel about some specific cultural issues)

In my half brown family, and my coincidentally half brown extended family (weird how that worked out), that's certainly the case. And I can tell you it would be more so, if it weren't for the current condition of the GOP.

Thoughts?

That any Hispanic who votes Republican is dumber than a Chicken who votes for Colonel Sanders.

We've been over this, Vichy Mac. You predicted a big Hispanic shift to Trump, and it didn't happen. (no, a four percent variance for an incumbent president isn't a shift.)

"They want more border security or are staunchly against abortions. They feel their husbands, family members, neighbors and friends that are Border Patrol agents or are in law enforcement are being unfairly villainized by Democrats. They worry Democrats are hostile to the oil and gas industry, which provides many good-paying jobs in the state. They worry the left is forgetting family values and the value of work.

"Broadly, they also argue that Democrats outside of the Valley have miscalculated that Hispanics there are as progressive as Hispanic voters in more liberal strongholds such as California and New York, when in reality, they’re far more moderate."

Which proves exactly nothing. The reality is, Americans as a whole are socially conservative and fiscally liberal. So the GOP has always done a pretty good job getting stupid people to vote for them by playing on their sexual and religious fears as well as their racial ones.

 

[Mac1958]

Good examples here:

Column: Why Democrats should worry about more Latinos going for GOP in 2024

In a 2022 election that could be a ballot-box bloodbath for Democrats, more Latinos going Republican could unleash an electoral earthquake.

www.latimes.com

 

[22lcidw]

That any Hispanic who votes Republican is dumber than a Chicken who votes for Colonel Sanders.

We've been over this, Vichy Mac. You predicted a big Hispanic shift to Trump, and it didn't happen. (no, a four percent variance for an incumbent president isn't a shift.)



Which proves exactly nothing. The reality is, Americans as a whole are socially conservative and fiscally liberal. So the GOP has always done a pretty good job getting stupid people to vote for them by playing on their sexual and religious fears as well as their racial ones.

You are promoting political parties that existed in other eras. With success to voters. The Repub Party is conservative democrat to left leaning Republican from those eras now. The Democratic Party is left of its left wing and us Socialist moving towards Communism. So the Repub Party makes sense to those who have some values that is at least promoted.

 

[Mac-7]

Good examples here:

Column: Why Democrats should worry about more Latinos going for GOP in 2024

In a 2022 election that could be a ballot-box bloodbath for Democrats, more Latinos going Republican could unleash an electoral earthquake.

www.latimes.com

Hispanics turning republican?

oh say it aint so Joe!

it must bother you greatly that they might become partisans for the wrong party

 

[1srelluc]

That any Hispanic who votes Republican is dumber than a Chicken who votes for Colonel Sanders.

We've been over this, Vichy Mac. You predicted a big Hispanic shift to Trump, and it didn't happen. (no, a four percent variance for an incumbent president isn't a shift.)



Which proves exactly nothing. The reality is, Americans as a whole are socially conservative and fiscally liberal. So the GOP has always done a pretty good job getting stupid people to vote for them by playing on their sexual and religious fears as well as their racial ones.

Negative, the gop has got people to vote for them because the dems moved farther left.

Youngkin here in Virginia either won the Hispanic vote outright or came so close that it made no difference. He got the percentages he needed from that block of voters.

Just forget Trump ever existed and look at the down ballot voting in 2020 and you will find a swing by Hispanics toward the gop that should more than concern you.

Then in 2021 a very blue TX (state) district (75% Hispanic) went to the gop.
Texas District, Roughly 75% Hispanic, Turns Red For GOP | The Daily Wire

Fact is you can't wish away what is going on with the Hispanic vote. They are becoming as mainstream as white voters and because they are hard workers and family oriented and want to do well for them and theirs so you should not expect them to stay on the dem plantation like your dependent black slaves do.

The worm is turning with Hispanics and you only have your corrupt leftist agenda to blame.

 

[SavannahMann]

Yeah. This is how the Right sees your half brown family.

 

[Care4all]

Grouping all Hispanic Americans together is a mistake...by Democrats...they are as different as white Americans and same with any group ... based on skin color or nationality heritage.

The promises of the democrats to fix all problems of the different voting segments has been harder than they anticipated, especially with the covid gorilla that keeps finding new shoulders, and the lack of republicans willing to even participate in governing for fear of the former President' s wrath...

democrats can't deliver what they said they would.... no immigration reform and pathway for dreamers, no good jobs or police reform for the black communities in need...

No vaccine as covid spread savior...

Democrats only saving grace so far is the republicans are useless and only political agenda is making Donald Trump their god.

 

[22lcidw]

Yeah. This is how the Right sees your half brown family.

This is what endless soap box pronunciations cause year after year decade after decade. Instead of inclusion we made up equity and tower of babel living that has divided us and caused dissent withing groups. But if you want to find it you will find bigots and prejudice within a percentage of all on this planet.

 

[jknowgood]

That any Hispanic who votes Republican is dumber than a Chicken who votes for Colonel Sanders.

We've been over this, Vichy Mac. You predicted a big Hispanic shift to Trump, and it didn't happen. (no, a four percent variance for an incumbent president isn't a shift.)



Which proves exactly nothing. The reality is, Americans as a whole are socially conservative and fiscally liberal. So the GOP has always done a pretty good job getting stupid people to vote for them by playing on their sexual and religious fears as well as their racial ones.

I said in the beginning that Hispanics are more conservative but liberals have open borders . That will backfire on you. Oh and doing so you are also losing the black vote. Congratulations!

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

American Hispanics may be more conservative than American Blacks

But...neither are.

Further...Latinos can't stand blacks...violently so.

 

[Wyatt earp]

That any Hispanic who votes Republican is dumber than a Chicken who votes for Colonel Sanders.

We've been over this, Vichy Mac. You predicted a big Hispanic shift to Trump, and it didn't happen. (no, a four percent variance for an incumbent president isn't a shift.)



Which proves exactly nothing. The reality is, Americans as a whole are socially conservative and fiscally liberal. So the GOP has always done a pretty good job getting stupid people to vote for them by playing on their sexual and religious fears as well as their racial ones.

Socially conservative and fiscally liberal?


Lmfao thanks for the morning laugh, crack head

 

[pknopp]

That any Hispanic who votes Republican is dumber than a Chicken who votes for Colonel Sanders.

Perhaps so but they have learned that they can not trust the Democrats.

Obama Broke His Promise to Latinos

 

[Mac1958]

Obama Broke His Promise to Latinos

My guess is that the Dems have essentially kept Hispanics/Latinos on automatic pilot all these years, just assuming that they'd stay there.

I can tell you first hand, there are plenty of these folks who are just not into a lot of the cultural crap the Dems push, and they're coming to the realization that any economic benefit they may be getting isn't all that significant in the big picture.

It just looks like the size of the group is increasing. I suspect the Dems will dismiss it, which is what both parties do when their orthodoxy is challenged.

 

[wamose]

That any Hispanic who votes Republican is dumber than a Chicken who votes for Colonel Sanders.

We've been over this, Vichy Mac. You predicted a big Hispanic shift to Trump, and it didn't happen. (no, a four percent variance for an incumbent president isn't a shift.)



Which proves exactly nothing. The reality is, Americans as a whole are socially conservative and fiscally liberal. So the GOP has always done a pretty good job getting stupid people to vote for them by playing on their sexual and religious fears as well as their racial ones.

In the meanwhile, all those Democrats are burning cities, shooting cops, stealing elections and begging for increases in welfare. Ain't you the smart ones.

 

[Polishprince]

Pretty interesting article below.

We've discussed this many times here, but the Democrats' approach to "minorities" as a whole may end up backfiring on them. It's beginning to look like, generally speaking, American Hispanics may be more conservative than American Blacks. And if that's true, the party's dependence on Identity Politics and other cultural tactics may be wearing thin for them. They may be facing a fork in the political road. And Hispanics represent 18% of the population, Democrats. (For that matter, I do very much wonder how American Blacks feel about some specific cultural issues)

In my half brown family, and my coincidentally half brown extended family (weird how that worked out), that's certainly the case. And I can tell you it would be more so, if it weren't for the current condition of the GOP.

Thoughts?

The GOP is gaining among Texas Hispanics. Women are leading the charge.

In places where Donald Trump made some of his biggest inroads with Hispanic voters, women are playing a key role in the Republican Party’s growth.

www.politico.com

"They want more border security or are staunchly against abortions. They feel their husbands, family members, neighbors and friends that are Border Patrol agents or are in law enforcement are being unfairly villainized by Democrats. They worry Democrats are hostile to the oil and gas industry, which provides many good-paying jobs in the state. They worry the left is forgetting family values and the value of work.

"Broadly, they also argue that Democrats outside of the Valley have miscalculated that Hispanics there are as progressive as Hispanic voters in more liberal strongholds such as California and New York, when in reality, they’re far more moderate."

I can see where this is concerning you. All the hatred that the never-trumpers have ginned up against the millions of Little Trumpsters will all go for naught if the hispanic people cast for The Donald in 2024.

I'd say the Democrats best idea would be to turn up the heat against conservatives and seal the deal for Brandon's reelection. Then concentrate on delivering Affirmative Action programs for the masses of new illegals from Latin America that they can get to pour into the country. Poor indigents can be bought off with project housing and free money which would ingratiate them to the Democrats.

 

[Mac1958]

it must bother you greatly that they might become partisans for the wrong party

It really does amaze me, given how closely you follow my posts, how absolutely clueless you are about my politics.

I would keep trying to explain them, but it's clear that you simply lack the capacity to understand.

 

[Papageorgio]

Democrats and the Hispanic vote are doing just fine. There is no big shift, the Dems have still the voting block. Every election cycle we hear how minorities are jumping off the Democratic Party bandwagon and it fails to materialize. Another sky is falling thread. The doom and gloom Democrats just spinning more BS.

 

[Jets]

This is why political parties should not take voters for granted…