Hillary's False Flag uncovered..................Us elections in peril

[IsaacNewton]

You know at some point here, this type stuff becomes tantamount to screaming FIRE in a crowded theater. Freedom of speech isn't limitless.

I'm sure we would LOVE to have you libtards to try and stop us.

Stop you from doing what, playing internet tough guy in your Dungeons and Dragons clan.

Alex Jones is mentally ill. There will be no 'uprising' and you derps will suck it up and live with the results of this election like every other. You really don't know how ridiculous you sound threatening people online? This is what you look and sound like to the normals:

I bet the King of England said the same thing

You exhibit a huge amount of ignorance.

When the King of England was in power, there were no American elections. America defeated him so that we could have elections, and then everyone live by those elections.

Now a group in the US has declared they won't accept the results of elections in America anymore. It is in fact YOU who rejects American democracy because you are on the losing end of the elections in this democracy. You are free to whine, and get mad, and vow to win the next election, organize a campaign, raise up money and a popular candidate. But when you pick up a gun you, at the moment, reject democracy.

You people are the exact opposite of patriots, you are traitors. Our form of government is fine, in place, and operating just as it has since the beginning. Voting takes place, the branches of government are separate and are checks and balances on each other. The only thing that has changed is the culture, and there is a group in that culture that cannot accept that change. This is the group that is threatening to start shooting people because they aren't getting their way and can't win an election.

There is another group that rejects this culture in general. They are called the Amish. Except the Amish don't pick up guns and threaten everyone else. They merely exercise the very freedom the Constitution affords them and they live the life that suits them. Peacefully enjoying the protections of this form of government guarantees them, while at the same time rejecting the culture that has changed to their dislike.

There will be no revolution and you angle biters who whine and bitch about how miserable you are and how it's all someone else's fault will either accept the results of elections, get out out of the country, or go to jail. Or worse. Those are your options. You and your tiny band of socialists that want to 'overthrow the government' are utterly laughable. You sound like everyone's crazy uncle who visits once a year and wails about this, that, and ten other ludicrous things, and everyone is glad when he finally leaves.

You're tired of democracy because you can't win now? Either live with it or leave. Stop whining like children.

 

[Preacher]

You know at some point here, this type stuff becomes tantamount to screaming FIRE in a crowded theater. Freedom of speech isn't limitless.

I'm sure we would LOVE to have you libtards to try and stop us.

Stop you from doing what, playing internet tough guy in your Dungeons and Dragons clan.

Alex Jones is mentally ill. There will be no 'uprising' and you derps will suck it up and live with the results of this election like every other. You really don't know how ridiculous you sound threatening people online? This is what you look and sound like to the normals:

I bet the King of England said the same thing

You exhibit a huge amount of ignorance.

When the King of England was in power, there were no American elections. America defeated him so that we could have elections, and then everyone live by those elections.

Now a group in the US has declared they won't accept the results of elections in America anymore. It is in fact YOU who rejects American democracy because you are on the losing end of the elections in this democracy. You are free to whine, and get mad, and vow to win the next election, organize a campaign, raise up money and a popular candidate. But when you pick up a gun you, at the moment, reject democracy.

You people are the exact opposite of patriots, you are traitors. Our form of government is fine, in place, and operating just as it has since the beginning. Voting takes place, the branches of government are separate and are checks and balances on each other. The only thing that has changed is the culture, and there is a group in that culture that cannot accept that change. This is the group that is threatening to start shooting people because they aren't getting their way and can't win an election.

There is another group that rejects this culture in general. They are called the Amish. Except the Amish don't pick up guns and threaten everyone else. They merely exercise the very freedom the Constitution affords them and they live the life that suits them. Peacefully enjoying the protections of this form of government guarantees them, while at the same time rejecting the culture that has changed to their dislike.

There will be no revolution and you angle biters who whine and bitch about how miserable you are and how it's all someone else's fault will either accept the results of elections, get out out of the country, or go to jail. Or worse. Those are your options. You and your tiny band of socialists that want to 'overthrow the government' are utterly laughable. You sound like everyone's crazy uncle who visits once a year and wails about this, that, and ten other ludicrous things, and everyone is glad when he finally leaves.

You're tired of democracy because you can't win now? Either live with it or leave. Stop whining like children.

That's the point. Democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner. Democracy is a HORRIBLE system and always has been even when whites were in charge of it. This system allowed America to be over run almost from the beginning with nonwhites....it has NEVER worked. Our founders took up arms and one day I will as well. If I die defending my race and family. So be it.

 

[MisterBeale]

You know at some point here, this type stuff becomes tantamount to screaming FIRE in a crowded theater. Freedom of speech isn't limitless.

I'm sure we would LOVE to have you libtards to try and stop us.

Stop you from doing what, playing internet tough guy in your Dungeons and Dragons clan.

Alex Jones is mentally ill. There will be no 'uprising' and you derps will suck it up and live with the results of this election like every other. You really don't know how ridiculous you sound threatening people online? This is what you look and sound like to the normals:

I bet the King of England said the same thing

You exhibit a huge amount of ignorance.

When the King of England was in power, there were no American elections. America defeated him so that we could have elections, and then everyone live by those elections.

Now a group in the US has declared they won't accept the results of elections in America anymore. It is in fact YOU who rejects American democracy because you are on the losing end of the elections in this democracy. You are free to whine, and get mad, and vow to win the next election, organize a campaign, raise up money and a popular candidate. But when you pick up a gun you, at the moment, reject democracy.

You people are the exact opposite of patriots, you are traitors. Our form of government is fine, in place, and operating just as it has since the beginning. Voting takes place, the branches of government are separate and are checks and balances on each other. The only thing that has changed is the culture, and there is a group in that culture that cannot accept that change. This is the group that is threatening to start shooting people because they aren't getting their way and can't win an election.

There is another group that rejects this culture in general. They are called the Amish. Except the Amish don't pick up guns and threaten everyone else. They merely exercise the very freedom the Constitution affords them and they live the life that suits them. Peacefully enjoying the protections of this form of government guarantees them, while at the same time rejecting the culture that has changed to their dislike.

There will be no revolution and you angle biters who whine and bitch about how miserable you are and how it's all someone else's fault will either accept the results of elections, get out out of the country, or go to jail. Or worse. Those are your options. You and your tiny band of socialists that want to 'overthrow the government' are utterly laughable. You sound like everyone's crazy uncle who visits once a year and wails about this, that, and ten other ludicrous things, and everyone is glad when he finally leaves.

You're tired of democracy because you can't win now? Either live with it or leave. Stop whining like children.

You are not following the line of reasoning here Newton.


That is not what some folks are saying about the election, in fact, just the opposite. If Hillary actually wins, then things will be fine, no problem, we will have no crises. The problem will come about if Trump wins, and if there is clear and convincing proof of this victory, (i.e. Exit polls show it, media polls show it, the various sec. states have a record of the victories.)

This is where we could potentially see a crises. The establishment didn't spend all it's time protecting Hillary just to see her lose, they aren't going down that easily, especially when they are already engaged in illegal undeclared wars abroad.


If the government claims that the Russians hacked the electoral systems in several battle ground states, when the citizens of this nation KNOW the Russians do not have the ability to do this, and the establishment nullifies the results, or doesn't certify the results, and gives the election to Hillary regardless of the results, what does that say about elections? The irony then becomes, you are actually talking about YOURSELF, because you will probably support the government and the establishment press narrative. This paragraph describes you to a tee, because it is the government who holds the monopoly on the "legitimate" use of force in our democracy;

"Now a group in the US has declared they won't accept the results of elections in America anymore. It is in fact YOU who rejects American democracy because you are on the losing end of the elections in this democracy. You are free to whine, and get mad, and vow to win the next election, organize a campaign, raise up money and a popular candidate. But when you pick up a gun you, at the moment, reject democracy."

If Trump wins the election and the MSM tells us the Russians hacked a few swing states, are you going to be that gullible? Or you going to let the Department of Homeland Security and the current administration decide who should be the next POTUS b/c they have claimed that foreign influence has been a deciding factor in the election?

Do you know anything at all about the Deep State? You do know that knowledge and discussion about the Deep State is not a partisan issue.

For instance, Mike Lofren is a respected congressional aid the used to work for the Republican party.

OTH, Dr. Peter Dale Scott, former Canadian Diplomat, and Professor emeritus of Stanford is decidedly liberal. As is the founding editor of the Salon website David Talbot. So are the Journalists Seymour Hersch and Bob Woodward.

Take your partisan blinders off and understand the nation is in real crises by rich oligarchs, who at this point, have no respect for Democracy anymore. They have always been busy making their own plans. That should have been made abundantly clear with the 2000 election.

 

[IsaacNewton]

You know at some point here, this type stuff becomes tantamount to screaming FIRE in a crowded theater. Freedom of speech isn't limitless.

I'm sure we would LOVE to have you libtards to try and stop us.

Stop you from doing what, playing internet tough guy in your Dungeons and Dragons clan.

Alex Jones is mentally ill. There will be no 'uprising' and you derps will suck it up and live with the results of this election like every other. You really don't know how ridiculous you sound threatening people online? This is what you look and sound like to the normals:

I bet the King of England said the same thing

You exhibit a huge amount of ignorance.

When the King of England was in power, there were no American elections. America defeated him so that we could have elections, and then everyone live by those elections.

Now a group in the US has declared they won't accept the results of elections in America anymore. It is in fact YOU who rejects American democracy because you are on the losing end of the elections in this democracy. You are free to whine, and get mad, and vow to win the next election, organize a campaign, raise up money and a popular candidate. But when you pick up a gun you, at the moment, reject democracy.

You people are the exact opposite of patriots, you are traitors. Our form of government is fine, in place, and operating just as it has since the beginning. Voting takes place, the branches of government are separate and are checks and balances on each other. The only thing that has changed is the culture, and there is a group in that culture that cannot accept that change. This is the group that is threatening to start shooting people because they aren't getting their way and can't win an election.

There is another group that rejects this culture in general. They are called the Amish. Except the Amish don't pick up guns and threaten everyone else. They merely exercise the very freedom the Constitution affords them and they live the life that suits them. Peacefully enjoying the protections of this form of government guarantees them, while at the same time rejecting the culture that has changed to their dislike.

There will be no revolution and you angle biters who whine and bitch about how miserable you are and how it's all someone else's fault will either accept the results of elections, get out out of the country, or go to jail. Or worse. Those are your options. You and your tiny band of socialists that want to 'overthrow the government' are utterly laughable. You sound like everyone's crazy uncle who visits once a year and wails about this, that, and ten other ludicrous things, and everyone is glad when he finally leaves.

You're tired of democracy because you can't win now? Either live with it or leave. Stop whining like children.

You are not following the line of reasoning here Newton.


That is not what some folks are saying about the election, in fact, just the opposite. If Hillary actually wins, then things will be fine, no problem, we will have no crises. The problem will come about if Trump wins, and if there is clear and convincing proof of this victory, (i.e. Exit polls show it, media polls show it, the various sec. states have a record of the victories.)

This is where we could potentially see a crises. The establishment didn't spend all it's time protecting Hillary just to see her lose, they aren't going down that easily, especially when they are already engaged in illegal undeclared wars abroad.


If the government claims that the Russians hacked the electoral systems in several battle ground states, when the citizens of this nation KNOW the Russians do not have the ability to do this, and the establishment nullifies the results, or doesn't certify the results, and gives the election to Hillary regardless of the results, what does that say about elections? The irony then becomes, you are actually talking about YOURSELF, because you will probably support the government and the establishment press narrative. This paragraph describes you to a tee, because it is the government who holds the monopoly on the "legitimate" use of force in our democracy;

"Now a group in the US has declared they won't accept the results of elections in America anymore. It is in fact YOU who rejects American democracy because you are on the losing end of the elections in this democracy. You are free to whine, and get mad, and vow to win the next election, organize a campaign, raise up money and a popular candidate. But when you pick up a gun you, at the moment, reject democracy."

If Trump wins the election and the MSM tells us the Russians hacked a few swing states, are you going to be that gullible? Or you going to let the Department of Homeland Security and the current administration decide who should be the next POTUS b/c they have claimed that foreign influence has been a deciding factor in the election?

Do you know anything at all about the Deep State? You do know that knowledge and discussion about the Deep State is not a partisan issue.

For instance, Mike Lofren is a respected congressional aid the used to work for the Republican party.

OTH, Dr. Peter Dale Scott, former Canadian Diplomat, and Professor emeritus of Stanford is decidedly liberal. As is the founding editor of the Salon website David Talbot. So are the Journalists Seymour Hersch and Bob Woodward.

Take your partisan blinders off and understand the nation is in real crises by rich oligarchs, who at this point, have no respect for Democracy anymore. They have always been busy making their own plans. That should have been made abundantly clear with the 2000 election.

First off, thanks for talking like a human being, that is rather refreshing here from someone on the right. And rare.

I don't buy the whole conspiracy thing. Trump started crying about 'rigged' six months ago or more. It's obvious he has been hedging his losing bet the whole time. Even he knew winning would be a hail mary. Add to this his ego wouldn't accept a rejection on the biggest stage in the world.

Homeland Security and the CIA have already warned states about Russian attempts to hack their voting machines. And there is no ambiguity, they know it's the Russians by various bit flags the Russians have left in previous hacks that match what they are currently doing. And for anybody on a message board or on the street to say "I know more than the CIA or Homeland Security, or 'they're running a scam...', please." All that conspiracy crap may fly at the various conspiracy theory websites or among the conservative 'bubble-land', where Hillary is 'the devil' which is exactly what Trump has said, is just that, it's crap. This need to couch every single argument as 'our side of the best good'est greatest perfect humans against the evilest powers in the history of forever' is only used in the conspiracy circles. It is how a child talks about things.

There won't be a revolt, and all the people that aren't happy Hillary is elected will have to live with it. And they'll have to live with her Surpreme Court appointments the same way liberals have had to live with the uber-conservatives that were on the SC the last 30 years.

I'm sorry to break it to every single conservative but you don't always get what you want. And you still have to accept it in a democracy.

Likely ANY of the other GOP candidates could have beaten HRC (except maybe Carson, his mothership is even now calling him home), but that isn't who you chose. You chose a lanced zit on the butt of a 60 year old prostitute. And relax, there is another election in 4 years, and then 4 years after that and so on. Life goes on, the country goes on. Don't like the GOP? Form a new party. Choose another candidate. Then get him/her elected.

The moment you pick up a gun because you don't like the outcome of an election is the moment you become a traitor.

 

[Skylar]

Alex uncovers the possibility that the globalists will use Russia as a scapegoat to throw the US into chaos, allowing Hillary to steal the election.


Hillary answers to foreign, multinational groups who want to permanently wound America and merge it into their global power structure which only they control......................................
Hillary’s False Flag Uncovered, US Elections in Peril!

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His Wargaming this just might happen unless we stop it by becoming aware of the game.
Sure makes sense to me as they are blaming Russia he's got a good Scenario it will be interesting to see if it unfolds this way.
They are already trying to get the uninformed believing that Russia will hack the elections. RUSSIA is not going to do this bs. M.W.

Is this another 'false flags' that Alex Jones predicts....and when it doesn't happen, he insists his radio show 'prevented' it?

If so, might I recommend you read a book called "When Prophecy Fails'. As Alex Jones is a text book case of cognitive dissonance in action.

 

[Skylar]

I'm sure we would LOVE to have you libtards to try and stop us.

Stop you from doing what, playing internet tough guy in your Dungeons and Dragons clan.

Alex Jones is mentally ill. There will be no 'uprising' and you derps will suck it up and live with the results of this election like every other. You really don't know how ridiculous you sound threatening people online? This is what you look and sound like to the normals:

I bet the King of England said the same thing

You exhibit a huge amount of ignorance.

When the King of England was in power, there were no American elections. America defeated him so that we could have elections, and then everyone live by those elections.

Now a group in the US has declared they won't accept the results of elections in America anymore. It is in fact YOU who rejects American democracy because you are on the losing end of the elections in this democracy. You are free to whine, and get mad, and vow to win the next election, organize a campaign, raise up money and a popular candidate. But when you pick up a gun you, at the moment, reject democracy.

You people are the exact opposite of patriots, you are traitors. Our form of government is fine, in place, and operating just as it has since the beginning. Voting takes place, the branches of government are separate and are checks and balances on each other. The only thing that has changed is the culture, and there is a group in that culture that cannot accept that change. This is the group that is threatening to start shooting people because they aren't getting their way and can't win an election.

There is another group that rejects this culture in general. They are called the Amish. Except the Amish don't pick up guns and threaten everyone else. They merely exercise the very freedom the Constitution affords them and they live the life that suits them. Peacefully enjoying the protections of this form of government guarantees them, while at the same time rejecting the culture that has changed to their dislike.

There will be no revolution and you angle biters who whine and bitch about how miserable you are and how it's all someone else's fault will either accept the results of elections, get out out of the country, or go to jail. Or worse. Those are your options. You and your tiny band of socialists that want to 'overthrow the government' are utterly laughable. You sound like everyone's crazy uncle who visits once a year and wails about this, that, and ten other ludicrous things, and everyone is glad when he finally leaves.

You're tired of democracy because you can't win now? Either live with it or leave. Stop whining like children.

You are not following the line of reasoning here Newton.


That is not what some folks are saying about the election, in fact, just the opposite. If Hillary actually wins, then things will be fine, no problem, we will have no crises. The problem will come about if Trump wins, and if there is clear and convincing proof of this victory, (i.e. Exit polls show it, media polls show it, the various sec. states have a record of the victories.)

This is where we could potentially see a crises. The establishment didn't spend all it's time protecting Hillary just to see her lose, they aren't going down that easily, especially when they are already engaged in illegal undeclared wars abroad.


If the government claims that the Russians hacked the electoral systems in several battle ground states, when the citizens of this nation KNOW the Russians do not have the ability to do this, and the establishment nullifies the results, or doesn't certify the results, and gives the election to Hillary regardless of the results, what does that say about elections? The irony then becomes, you are actually talking about YOURSELF, because you will probably support the government and the establishment press narrative. This paragraph describes you to a tee, because it is the government who holds the monopoly on the "legitimate" use of force in our democracy;

"Now a group in the US has declared they won't accept the results of elections in America anymore. It is in fact YOU who rejects American democracy because you are on the losing end of the elections in this democracy. You are free to whine, and get mad, and vow to win the next election, organize a campaign, raise up money and a popular candidate. But when you pick up a gun you, at the moment, reject democracy."

If Trump wins the election and the MSM tells us the Russians hacked a few swing states, are you going to be that gullible? Or you going to let the Department of Homeland Security and the current administration decide who should be the next POTUS b/c they have claimed that foreign influence has been a deciding factor in the election?

Do you know anything at all about the Deep State? You do know that knowledge and discussion about the Deep State is not a partisan issue.

For instance, Mike Lofren is a respected congressional aid the used to work for the Republican party.

OTH, Dr. Peter Dale Scott, former Canadian Diplomat, and Professor emeritus of Stanford is decidedly liberal. As is the founding editor of the Salon website David Talbot. So are the Journalists Seymour Hersch and Bob Woodward.

Take your partisan blinders off and understand the nation is in real crises by rich oligarchs, who at this point, have no respect for Democracy anymore. They have always been busy making their own plans. That should have been made abundantly clear with the 2000 election.

First off, thanks for talking like a human being, that is rather refreshing here from someone on the right. And rare.

I don't buy the whole conspiracy thing. Trump started crying about 'rigged' six months ago or more. It's obvious he has been hedging his losing bet the whole time. Even he knew winning would be a hail mary. Add to this his ego wouldn't accept a rejection on the biggest stage in the world.

Homeland Security and the CIA have already warned states about Russian attempts to hack their voting machines. And there is no ambiguity, they know it's the Russians by various bit flags the Russians have left in previous hacks that match what they are currently doing. And for anybody on a message board or on the street to say "I know more than the CIA or Homeland Security, or 'they're running a scam...', please." All that conspiracy crap may fly at the various conspiracy theory websites or among the conservative 'bubble-land', where Hillary is 'the devil' which is exactly what Trump has said, is just that, it's crap. This need to couch every single argument as 'our side of the best good'est greatest perfect humans against the evilest powers in the history of forever' is only used in the conspiracy circles. It is how a child talks about things.

There won't be a revolt, and all the people that aren't happy Hillary is elected will have to live with it. And they'll have to live with her Surpreme Court appointments the same way liberals have had to live with the uber-conservatives that were on the SC the last 30 years.

I'm sorry to break it to every single conservative but you don't always get what you want. And you still have to accept it in a democracy.

Likely ANY of the other GOP candidates could have beaten HRC (except maybe Carson, his mothership is even now calling him home), but that isn't who you chose. You chose a lanced zit on the butt of a 60 year old prostitute. And relax, there is another election in 4 years, and then 4 years after that and so on. Life goes on, the country goes on. Don't like the GOP? Form a new party. Choose another candidate. Then get him/her elected.

The moment you pick up a gun because you don't like the outcome of an election is the moment you become a traitor.

Even Pence has acknowledged that the evidence overwhelming supports a Russian hack.

 

[MisterBeale]

I'm sure we would LOVE to have you libtards to try and stop us.

Stop you from doing what, playing internet tough guy in your Dungeons and Dragons clan.

Alex Jones is mentally ill. There will be no 'uprising' and you derps will suck it up and live with the results of this election like every other. You really don't know how ridiculous you sound threatening people online? This is what you look and sound like to the normals:

I bet the King of England said the same thing

You exhibit a huge amount of ignorance.

When the King of England was in power, there were no American elections. America defeated him so that we could have elections, and then everyone live by those elections.

Now a group in the US has declared they won't accept the results of elections in America anymore. It is in fact YOU who rejects American democracy because you are on the losing end of the elections in this democracy. You are free to whine, and get mad, and vow to win the next election, organize a campaign, raise up money and a popular candidate. But when you pick up a gun you, at the moment, reject democracy.

You people are the exact opposite of patriots, you are traitors. Our form of government is fine, in place, and operating just as it has since the beginning. Voting takes place, the branches of government are separate and are checks and balances on each other. The only thing that has changed is the culture, and there is a group in that culture that cannot accept that change. This is the group that is threatening to start shooting people because they aren't getting their way and can't win an election.

There is another group that rejects this culture in general. They are called the Amish. Except the Amish don't pick up guns and threaten everyone else. They merely exercise the very freedom the Constitution affords them and they live the life that suits them. Peacefully enjoying the protections of this form of government guarantees them, while at the same time rejecting the culture that has changed to their dislike.

There will be no revolution and you angle biters who whine and bitch about how miserable you are and how it's all someone else's fault will either accept the results of elections, get out out of the country, or go to jail. Or worse. Those are your options. You and your tiny band of socialists that want to 'overthrow the government' are utterly laughable. You sound like everyone's crazy uncle who visits once a year and wails about this, that, and ten other ludicrous things, and everyone is glad when he finally leaves.

You're tired of democracy because you can't win now? Either live with it or leave. Stop whining like children.

You are not following the line of reasoning here Newton.


That is not what some folks are saying about the election, in fact, just the opposite. If Hillary actually wins, then things will be fine, no problem, we will have no crises. The problem will come about if Trump wins, and if there is clear and convincing proof of this victory, (i.e. Exit polls show it, media polls show it, the various sec. states have a record of the victories.)

This is where we could potentially see a crises. The establishment didn't spend all it's time protecting Hillary just to see her lose, they aren't going down that easily, especially when they are already engaged in illegal undeclared wars abroad.


If the government claims that the Russians hacked the electoral systems in several battle ground states, when the citizens of this nation KNOW the Russians do not have the ability to do this, and the establishment nullifies the results, or doesn't certify the results, and gives the election to Hillary regardless of the results, what does that say about elections? The irony then becomes, you are actually talking about YOURSELF, because you will probably support the government and the establishment press narrative. This paragraph describes you to a tee, because it is the government who holds the monopoly on the "legitimate" use of force in our democracy;

"Now a group in the US has declared they won't accept the results of elections in America anymore. It is in fact YOU who rejects American democracy because you are on the losing end of the elections in this democracy. You are free to whine, and get mad, and vow to win the next election, organize a campaign, raise up money and a popular candidate. But when you pick up a gun you, at the moment, reject democracy."

If Trump wins the election and the MSM tells us the Russians hacked a few swing states, are you going to be that gullible? Or you going to let the Department of Homeland Security and the current administration decide who should be the next POTUS b/c they have claimed that foreign influence has been a deciding factor in the election?

Do you know anything at all about the Deep State? You do know that knowledge and discussion about the Deep State is not a partisan issue.

For instance, Mike Lofren is a respected congressional aid the used to work for the Republican party.

OTH, Dr. Peter Dale Scott, former Canadian Diplomat, and Professor emeritus of Stanford is decidedly liberal. As is the founding editor of the Salon website David Talbot. So are the Journalists Seymour Hersch and Bob Woodward.

Take your partisan blinders off and understand the nation is in real crises by rich oligarchs, who at this point, have no respect for Democracy anymore. They have always been busy making their own plans. That should have been made abundantly clear with the 2000 election.

First off, thanks for talking like a human being, that is rather refreshing here from someone on the right. And rare.

I don't buy the whole conspiracy thing. Trump started crying about 'rigged' six months ago or more. It's obvious he has been hedging his losing bet the whole time. Even he knew winning would be a hail mary. Add to this his ego wouldn't accept a rejection on the biggest stage in the world.

Homeland Security and the CIA have already warned states about Russian attempts to hack their voting machines. And there is no ambiguity, they know it's the Russians by various bit flags the Russians have left in previous hacks that match what they are currently doing. And for anybody on a message board or on the street to say "I know more than the CIA or Homeland Security, or 'they're running a scam...', please." All that conspiracy crap may fly at the various conspiracy theory websites or among the conservative 'bubble-land', where Hillary is 'the devil' which is exactly what Trump has said, is just that, it's crap. This need to couch every single argument as 'our side of the best good'est greatest perfect humans against the evilest powers in the history of forever' is only used in the conspiracy circles. It is how a child talks about things.

There won't be a revolt, and all the people that aren't happy Hillary is elected will have to live with it. And they'll have to live with her Surpreme Court appointments the same way liberals have had to live with the uber-conservatives that were on the SC the last 30 years.

I'm sorry to break it to every single conservative but you don't always get what you want. And you still have to accept it in a democracy.

Likely ANY of the other GOP candidates could have beaten HRC (except maybe Carson, his mothership is even now calling him home), but that isn't who you chose. You chose a lanced zit on the butt of a 60 year old prostitute. And relax, there is another election in 4 years, and then 4 years after that and so on. Life goes on, the country goes on. Don't like the GOP? Form a new party. Choose another candidate. Then get him/her elected.

The moment you pick up a gun because you don't like the outcome of an election is the moment you become a traitor.

First off, let make one thing clear, I am not on the right or the left.

You should disabuse yourself of the notion that anyone that doesn't agree with you is opposite to how you see yourself. Stop seeing the world in dualism terms.

Secondly, thank you for alerting me to my error. You are indeed correct, the Russians to have the capability to hack various polling locations. That said, it is a dubious proposition of whether they actually would, and whether adequate evidence could gathered to be proven to show that they have. How much is the threshold of evidence that the State could justify non-democratic action? I'm afraid there isn't any, as we have seen with the Federal government's actions after 9/11, the Deep State just acts, it doesn't ask for permission.

The faith in the process needs to be bolstered first.

Most of this article I found to be CFR propaganda, but this line was particularly prescient.

The US, of course, is not above using hackers and misinformation campaigns. Any evidence put forward by US intelligence officials has to be taken with a grain of salt. And perhaps all is fair in cyberwarfare, and the only thing to be done is to bolster security measures against hackers. But bolstering voter’s faith in democracy? That is a whole other challenge.

If Russia is trying to hack America, it is not to help Donald Trump win | David Klion

Through leaks (most likely traced back to Russia through TOR,) it is known that agents in the press friendly to both the CFR neocons and the CFR Democrat party have met with the Hillary campaign, and are in this to make sure she is victorious. Her campaign and the DNC have met with them, sent them memos, and advised them how to cover her campaign, this is a known fact. Are you at all familiar with the work of Noam Chomsky? How about Edward Bernays? If you are then you should be aware then how this is all going down.

Those of us who are paying attention have seen the leaks. This is what is meant in the Trump campaign as the "rigging" of the election, a priori.

Maybe I've under estimated you, perhaps you can't tease out this line of events, and don't understand how the establishment has manipulated the population. Or maybe you just don't care? There is that possibility too?

 

[Preacher]

Stop you from doing what, playing internet tough guy in your Dungeons and Dragons clan.

Alex Jones is mentally ill. There will be no 'uprising' and you derps will suck it up and live with the results of this election like every other. You really don't know how ridiculous you sound threatening people online? This is what you look and sound like to the normals:

I bet the King of England said the same thing

You exhibit a huge amount of ignorance.

When the King of England was in power, there were no American elections. America defeated him so that we could have elections, and then everyone live by those elections.

Now a group in the US has declared they won't accept the results of elections in America anymore. It is in fact YOU who rejects American democracy because you are on the losing end of the elections in this democracy. You are free to whine, and get mad, and vow to win the next election, organize a campaign, raise up money and a popular candidate. But when you pick up a gun you, at the moment, reject democracy.

You people are the exact opposite of patriots, you are traitors. Our form of government is fine, in place, and operating just as it has since the beginning. Voting takes place, the branches of government are separate and are checks and balances on each other. The only thing that has changed is the culture, and there is a group in that culture that cannot accept that change. This is the group that is threatening to start shooting people because they aren't getting their way and can't win an election.

There is another group that rejects this culture in general. They are called the Amish. Except the Amish don't pick up guns and threaten everyone else. They merely exercise the very freedom the Constitution affords them and they live the life that suits them. Peacefully enjoying the protections of this form of government guarantees them, while at the same time rejecting the culture that has changed to their dislike.

There will be no revolution and you angle biters who whine and bitch about how miserable you are and how it's all someone else's fault will either accept the results of elections, get out out of the country, or go to jail. Or worse. Those are your options. You and your tiny band of socialists that want to 'overthrow the government' are utterly laughable. You sound like everyone's crazy uncle who visits once a year and wails about this, that, and ten other ludicrous things, and everyone is glad when he finally leaves.

You're tired of democracy because you can't win now? Either live with it or leave. Stop whining like children.

You are not following the line of reasoning here Newton.


That is not what some folks are saying about the election, in fact, just the opposite. If Hillary actually wins, then things will be fine, no problem, we will have no crises. The problem will come about if Trump wins, and if there is clear and convincing proof of this victory, (i.e. Exit polls show it, media polls show it, the various sec. states have a record of the victories.)

This is where we could potentially see a crises. The establishment didn't spend all it's time protecting Hillary just to see her lose, they aren't going down that easily, especially when they are already engaged in illegal undeclared wars abroad.


If the government claims that the Russians hacked the electoral systems in several battle ground states, when the citizens of this nation KNOW the Russians do not have the ability to do this, and the establishment nullifies the results, or doesn't certify the results, and gives the election to Hillary regardless of the results, what does that say about elections? The irony then becomes, you are actually talking about YOURSELF, because you will probably support the government and the establishment press narrative. This paragraph describes you to a tee, because it is the government who holds the monopoly on the "legitimate" use of force in our democracy;

"Now a group in the US has declared they won't accept the results of elections in America anymore. It is in fact YOU who rejects American democracy because you are on the losing end of the elections in this democracy. You are free to whine, and get mad, and vow to win the next election, organize a campaign, raise up money and a popular candidate. But when you pick up a gun you, at the moment, reject democracy."

If Trump wins the election and the MSM tells us the Russians hacked a few swing states, are you going to be that gullible? Or you going to let the Department of Homeland Security and the current administration decide who should be the next POTUS b/c they have claimed that foreign influence has been a deciding factor in the election?

Do you know anything at all about the Deep State? You do know that knowledge and discussion about the Deep State is not a partisan issue.

For instance, Mike Lofren is a respected congressional aid the used to work for the Republican party.

OTH, Dr. Peter Dale Scott, former Canadian Diplomat, and Professor emeritus of Stanford is decidedly liberal. As is the founding editor of the Salon website David Talbot. So are the Journalists Seymour Hersch and Bob Woodward.

Take your partisan blinders off and understand the nation is in real crises by rich oligarchs, who at this point, have no respect for Democracy anymore. They have always been busy making their own plans. That should have been made abundantly clear with the 2000 election.

First off, thanks for talking like a human being, that is rather refreshing here from someone on the right. And rare.

I don't buy the whole conspiracy thing. Trump started crying about 'rigged' six months ago or more. It's obvious he has been hedging his losing bet the whole time. Even he knew winning would be a hail mary. Add to this his ego wouldn't accept a rejection on the biggest stage in the world.

Homeland Security and the CIA have already warned states about Russian attempts to hack their voting machines. And there is no ambiguity, they know it's the Russians by various bit flags the Russians have left in previous hacks that match what they are currently doing. And for anybody on a message board or on the street to say "I know more than the CIA or Homeland Security, or 'they're running a scam...', please." All that conspiracy crap may fly at the various conspiracy theory websites or among the conservative 'bubble-land', where Hillary is 'the devil' which is exactly what Trump has said, is just that, it's crap. This need to couch every single argument as 'our side of the best good'est greatest perfect humans against the evilest powers in the history of forever' is only used in the conspiracy circles. It is how a child talks about things.

There won't be a revolt, and all the people that aren't happy Hillary is elected will have to live with it. And they'll have to live with her Surpreme Court appointments the same way liberals have had to live with the uber-conservatives that were on the SC the last 30 years.

I'm sorry to break it to every single conservative but you don't always get what you want. And you still have to accept it in a democracy.

Likely ANY of the other GOP candidates could have beaten HRC (except maybe Carson, his mothership is even now calling him home), but that isn't who you chose. You chose a lanced zit on the butt of a 60 year old prostitute. And relax, there is another election in 4 years, and then 4 years after that and so on. Life goes on, the country goes on. Don't like the GOP? Form a new party. Choose another candidate. Then get him/her elected.

The moment you pick up a gun because you don't like the outcome of an election is the moment you become a traitor.

Even Pence has acknowledged that the evidence overwhelming supports a Russian hack.

Pence is a neo con. No surprise there. Trump merely picked him because he had experience and was thought to be able to bring the establishment in from the cold.

 

[IsaacNewton]

Stop you from doing what, playing internet tough guy in your Dungeons and Dragons clan.

Alex Jones is mentally ill. There will be no 'uprising' and you derps will suck it up and live with the results of this election like every other. You really don't know how ridiculous you sound threatening people online? This is what you look and sound like to the normals:

I bet the King of England said the same thing

You exhibit a huge amount of ignorance.

When the King of England was in power, there were no American elections. America defeated him so that we could have elections, and then everyone live by those elections.

Now a group in the US has declared they won't accept the results of elections in America anymore. It is in fact YOU who rejects American democracy because you are on the losing end of the elections in this democracy. You are free to whine, and get mad, and vow to win the next election, organize a campaign, raise up money and a popular candidate. But when you pick up a gun you, at the moment, reject democracy.

You people are the exact opposite of patriots, you are traitors. Our form of government is fine, in place, and operating just as it has since the beginning. Voting takes place, the branches of government are separate and are checks and balances on each other. The only thing that has changed is the culture, and there is a group in that culture that cannot accept that change. This is the group that is threatening to start shooting people because they aren't getting their way and can't win an election.

There is another group that rejects this culture in general. They are called the Amish. Except the Amish don't pick up guns and threaten everyone else. They merely exercise the very freedom the Constitution affords them and they live the life that suits them. Peacefully enjoying the protections of this form of government guarantees them, while at the same time rejecting the culture that has changed to their dislike.

There will be no revolution and you angle biters who whine and bitch about how miserable you are and how it's all someone else's fault will either accept the results of elections, get out out of the country, or go to jail. Or worse. Those are your options. You and your tiny band of socialists that want to 'overthrow the government' are utterly laughable. You sound like everyone's crazy uncle who visits once a year and wails about this, that, and ten other ludicrous things, and everyone is glad when he finally leaves.

You're tired of democracy because you can't win now? Either live with it or leave. Stop whining like children.

You are not following the line of reasoning here Newton.


That is not what some folks are saying about the election, in fact, just the opposite. If Hillary actually wins, then things will be fine, no problem, we will have no crises. The problem will come about if Trump wins, and if there is clear and convincing proof of this victory, (i.e. Exit polls show it, media polls show it, the various sec. states have a record of the victories.)

This is where we could potentially see a crises. The establishment didn't spend all it's time protecting Hillary just to see her lose, they aren't going down that easily, especially when they are already engaged in illegal undeclared wars abroad.


If the government claims that the Russians hacked the electoral systems in several battle ground states, when the citizens of this nation KNOW the Russians do not have the ability to do this, and the establishment nullifies the results, or doesn't certify the results, and gives the election to Hillary regardless of the results, what does that say about elections? The irony then becomes, you are actually talking about YOURSELF, because you will probably support the government and the establishment press narrative. This paragraph describes you to a tee, because it is the government who holds the monopoly on the "legitimate" use of force in our democracy;

"Now a group in the US has declared they won't accept the results of elections in America anymore. It is in fact YOU who rejects American democracy because you are on the losing end of the elections in this democracy. You are free to whine, and get mad, and vow to win the next election, organize a campaign, raise up money and a popular candidate. But when you pick up a gun you, at the moment, reject democracy."

If Trump wins the election and the MSM tells us the Russians hacked a few swing states, are you going to be that gullible? Or you going to let the Department of Homeland Security and the current administration decide who should be the next POTUS b/c they have claimed that foreign influence has been a deciding factor in the election?

Do you know anything at all about the Deep State? You do know that knowledge and discussion about the Deep State is not a partisan issue.

For instance, Mike Lofren is a respected congressional aid the used to work for the Republican party.

OTH, Dr. Peter Dale Scott, former Canadian Diplomat, and Professor emeritus of Stanford is decidedly liberal. As is the founding editor of the Salon website David Talbot. So are the Journalists Seymour Hersch and Bob Woodward.

Take your partisan blinders off and understand the nation is in real crises by rich oligarchs, who at this point, have no respect for Democracy anymore. They have always been busy making their own plans. That should have been made abundantly clear with the 2000 election.

First off, thanks for talking like a human being, that is rather refreshing here from someone on the right. And rare.

I don't buy the whole conspiracy thing. Trump started crying about 'rigged' six months ago or more. It's obvious he has been hedging his losing bet the whole time. Even he knew winning would be a hail mary. Add to this his ego wouldn't accept a rejection on the biggest stage in the world.

Homeland Security and the CIA have already warned states about Russian attempts to hack their voting machines. And there is no ambiguity, they know it's the Russians by various bit flags the Russians have left in previous hacks that match what they are currently doing. And for anybody on a message board or on the street to say "I know more than the CIA or Homeland Security, or 'they're running a scam...', please." All that conspiracy crap may fly at the various conspiracy theory websites or among the conservative 'bubble-land', where Hillary is 'the devil' which is exactly what Trump has said, is just that, it's crap. This need to couch every single argument as 'our side of the best good'est greatest perfect humans against the evilest powers in the history of forever' is only used in the conspiracy circles. It is how a child talks about things.

There won't be a revolt, and all the people that aren't happy Hillary is elected will have to live with it. And they'll have to live with her Surpreme Court appointments the same way liberals have had to live with the uber-conservatives that were on the SC the last 30 years.

I'm sorry to break it to every single conservative but you don't always get what you want. And you still have to accept it in a democracy.

Likely ANY of the other GOP candidates could have beaten HRC (except maybe Carson, his mothership is even now calling him home), but that isn't who you chose. You chose a lanced zit on the butt of a 60 year old prostitute. And relax, there is another election in 4 years, and then 4 years after that and so on. Life goes on, the country goes on. Don't like the GOP? Form a new party. Choose another candidate. Then get him/her elected.

The moment you pick up a gun because you don't like the outcome of an election is the moment you become a traitor.

First off, let make one thing clear, I am not on the right or the left.

You should disabuse yourself of the notion that anyone that doesn't agree with you is opposite to how you see yourself. Stop seeing the world in dualism terms.

Secondly, thank you for alerting me to my error. You are indeed correct, the Russians to have the capability to hack various polling locations. That said, it is a dubious proposition of whether they actually would, and whether adequate evidence could gathered to be proven to show that they have. How much is the threshold of evidence that the State could justify non-democratic action? I'm afraid there isn't any, as we have seen with the Federal government's actions after 9/11, the Deep State just acts, it doesn't ask for permission.

The faith in the process needs to be bolstered first.

Most of this article I found to be CFR propaganda, but this line was particularly prescient.

The US, of course, is not above using hackers and misinformation campaigns. Any evidence put forward by US intelligence officials has to be taken with a grain of salt. And perhaps all is fair in cyberwarfare, and the only thing to be done is to bolster security measures against hackers. But bolstering voter’s faith in democracy? That is a whole other challenge.

If Russia is trying to hack America, it is not to help Donald Trump win | David Klion

Through leaks (most likely traced back to Russia through TOR,) it is known that agents in the press friendly to both the CFR neocons and the CFR Democrat party have met with the Hillary campaign, and are in this to make sure she is victorious. Her campaign and the DNC have met with them, sent them memos, and advised them how to cover her campaign, this is a known fact. Are you at all familiar with the work of Noam Chomsky? How about Edward Bernays? If you are then you should be aware then how this is all going down.

Those of us who are paying attention have seen the leaks. This is what is meant in the Trump campaign as the "rigging" of the election, a priori.

Maybe I've under estimated you, perhaps you can't tease out this line of events, and don't understand how the establishment has manipulated the population. Or maybe you just don't care? There is that possibility too?

Yeah I likely would get some of the party affiliations of people posting here wrong as I don't try to memorize any of that. I don't view 99.9% of people here as an enemy. I just see a long spectrum that goes from well informed to 'alien conspiracy the world is about to explode' arm flailers.

You start from a poor premise. That Trump is just some honest guy caught up in 'the system'. He isn't by a million miles, everything he has done and continues to do shows he is a lying manipulative snake oil salesman who isn't to be believed on anything. He lies and then tells an opposite lie in the very next sentence. He calls for violence, cheers on people committing violence in front of him, then accuses the other side of inciting violence.

HRC is far from a perfect candidate. As I said, likely if any of the other GOP candidates were the GOP nominee they would have beaten HRC. But they chose a guy who said he could see himself dating his own daughter and cheers on the Russians to hack US Government computers.

If Bernie Saunders were the nominee I'd vote for him, if Kasich were running against HRC I'd have voted for him. But we are stuck with HRC or Trump. And Trump represents all the things wrong with the human race and is dangerous. Not by my opinion but by the opinion of many US generals and nearly the entire rest of the world. HRC is the safe vote this time around. We can change it up in 4 years if neccessary, perhaps new parties will arise with better candidates.

I doubt it. Congress has an 18% approval rating. Watch how many incumbents get reelected anyway.

 

[DrainBamage]

Alex uncovers the possibility that the globalists will use Russia as a scapegoat to throw the US into chaos, allowing Hillary to steal the election.

Does it bother you that every one of your wild conspiracies gets proven wrong? Just dust yourself off and make another one.

 

[MisterBeale]

Alex uncovers the possibility that the globalists will use Russia as a scapegoat to throw the US into chaos, allowing Hillary to steal the election.

Does it bother you that every one of your wild conspiracies gets proven wrong? Just dust yourself off and make another one.

Sure, Russia isn't being used as a scapegoat right now to throw the US into chaos.

No chaos. Out going administration blames Russia for nation's woes and wants to increase sanctions, in coming administration wants to lift sanctions. No chaos. Shit, it's like you don't know what the hell is going on.

Whatever. Do you pay attention?

Just b/c there hasn't been a stolen election, doesn't mean that the nation's polity and traditions haven't been weakened by bullshit propaganda.

The proxy war in Syria between Russia and NATO continues. Hopefully the ceasefire will hold, and the west will back off.

 

[DrainBamage]

No chaos. Out going administration blames Russia for nation's woes and wants to increase sanctions, in coming administration wants to lift sanctions. No chaos. Shit, it's like you don't know what the hell is going on.

Yeah an incoming administration of a different political party has different goals/ideas than the existing one. OMIGOSH CHAOS! Things are spiraling out of control!

Cracks me up the way you guys will do everything you can do avoid admitting that your latest dumbass conspiracy theory was bullshit. Now the everyday machinations of government and politics is some unheard of level of chaos that was accurately predicted by those who generate nonstop conspiracy threads.

Just b/c there hasn't been a stolen election, doesn't mean that the nation's polity and traditions haven't been weakened by bullshit propaganda.

Bottom line = there was no false flag operation, and the election was never in peril.

 

[MisterBeale]

No chaos. Out going administration blames Russia for nation's woes and wants to increase sanctions, in coming administration wants to lift sanctions. No chaos. Shit, it's like you don't know what the hell is going on.

Yeah an incoming administration of a different political party has different goals/ideas than the existing one. OMIGOSH CHAOS! Things are spiraling out of control!

Cracks me up the way you guys will do everything you can do avoid admitting that your latest dumbass conspiracy theory was bullshit. Now the everyday machinations of government and politics is some unheard of level of chaos that was accurately predicted by those who generate nonstop conspiracy threads.

Just b/c there hasn't been a stolen election, doesn't mean that the nation's polity and traditions haven't been weakened by bullshit propaganda.

Bottom line = there was no false flag operation, and the election was never in peril.

If you read a little, and paid some attention, you would know that an attempt WAS made to rig the election by the current administration. The sovereign states repelled it.

Damn, folks like you can be so damned obtuse in an attempt to escape from cognitive dissonance.

Georgia Secretary of State Seeks Trump’s Help in Alleged DHS Hack
After an attack in November, the Secretary of State's office was able to trace the breach to the Department of Homeland Security, which has denied it tried to break through the state’s computer firewall.
Georgia Secretary of State Seeks Trump’s Help in Alleged DHS Hack

More states confirm suspected cyberattacks sourced to DHS

 

[frigidweirdo]

Alex uncovers the possibility that the globalists will use Russia as a scapegoat to throw the US into chaos, allowing Hillary to steal the election.


Hillary answers to foreign, multinational groups who want to permanently wound America and merge it into their global power structure which only they control......................................
Hillary’s False Flag Uncovered, US Elections in Peril!

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His Wargaming this just might happen unless we stop it by becoming aware of the game.
Sure makes sense to me as they are blaming Russia he's got a good Scenario it will be interesting to see if it unfolds this way.
They are already trying to get the uninformed believing that Russia will hack the elections. RUSSIA is not going to do this bs. M.W.

And the Trump goes and puts loads of people from multinational groups to be in his cabinet, yeah, change.... well a change of hair maybe.

 

[DrainBamage]

If you read a little, and paid some attention, you would know that an attempt WAS made to rig the election by the current administration. The sovereign states repelled it.

If you read something outside of conspiracy sites and youtube university you wouldn't look so ridiculous pretending what we have is chaos.

Georgia Secretary of State Seeks Trump’s Help in Alleged DHS Hack

More states confirm suspected cyberattacks sourced to DHS

Perfect example, thank you. There is nothing in those articles about any attempts to rig an election. You take known facts then spin your own little narrative to fill in gaps to suit your paranoid reality.

As in: Two more states say same DHS computer accessed their websites

Bradford Queen, spokesman for Kentucky Secretary of State Alison Grimes, said the National Association of Secretaries of State, at Kemp’s request, asked if other states had experienced similar attempts to access their systems. “Our office investigated and found that in a handful of instances an IP address allegedly sourced to the Department of Homeland Security had accessed our public voter information and online voter registration websites,” Queen said. But, they found no “attempt to scan, attack, or infiltrate our system and that the visits appeared to be regular web traffic.”

As in: WV Secretary of State addresses false reports of DHS 'hack'

“The DHS IP address in question viewed our public election night results webpage on November 7, 2016, and on October 29, 2016, an invalid website address was used to try to reach our Statewide Voter Registration System. This activity was recorded by our office firewall. The IP address did not access anything of concern and after discussions with DHS about our specific traffic here in West Virginia, we have no indication at this time that the visits were malicious.

“Secretary of State Office staff have been in close contact with federal DHS, the West Virginia Division of Homeland Security and Emergency Management, and our West Virginia National Guard throughout this election cycle and before. West Virginia did grant DHS permission to do a cyber-hygiene scan prior to the election. The Secretary of State’s Office protects its online databases and files not just during election years, but all the time. We are always monitoring threats and are in close contact with other Secretaries of State and federal and state entities to make sure that we’re doing everything possible to protect our systems.

“We can only speak about the DHS IP address visits here in West Virginia, but, again, those have been investigated and were not malicious. Any reports to the contrary are simply unfounded and false.”


Imagine that, MisterBeale only telling half truths. These "sovereign states repelling rigging attempts" are somehow viewed by those very states as nothing malicious, maybe MisterBeale needs to read a little outside of his tin hatter sites eh?