Hillary "scrubbed" From Benghazi

[candycorn]

Benghazi has become a net win for the Democrats. Americans understand that the ME is a dangerous place and that attacks of Americans over there are old news. Each time it comes up, the voters will wonder why the witch hunt is going on.

It won't be a factor in 2014 or 2016.

Benghazi has become a net win for the Democrats. Americans understand that the ME is a dangerous place and that attacks of Americans over there are old news. Each time it comes up, the voters will wonder why the witch hunt is going on.

It won't be a factor in 2014 or 2016.

You bet your ass the ME is a dangeruos place. You can also bet your ass the embassy Staff at Benghazi thought their bosses, The ******* State Department, had their backs. Guess not. They are now busily covering their own asses.

You might think Benghazi is a winner for the Dems but I doubt it.

Politically it is.

In the light of the Great Bush Iraqi misadventure where 4,000+ Americans died and tens of thousands were injured for absolutely zero real gain to our nation, the GOP fetish (I was going to say obsession but fetish is more appropriate...it's an obscene fixation that only they get pleasure out of) with Ben-Gotcha looks frankly stupid.

only to those that believe that the Obama administration is purely ethical and never makes a mistake.

And as the poll numbers are showing...that number is declining quite rapidly.

Pfft...whatever loser.

332-206.

Very mature response.

You can't find anyone who thinks that Obama hasn't made a mistake (including Obama). Second term Presidents almost all have sinking poll numbers. Inmature perhaps but your lack of political sophistication is probably a greater sign of inmaturity. Which is why you were dubbed "loser"...what you're citing is barely relevant in one case and patently false in another.

 

[candycorn]

Benghazi has become a net win for the Democrats. Americans understand that the ME is a dangerous place and that attacks of Americans over there are old news. Each time it comes up, the voters will wonder why the witch hunt is going on.

It won't be a factor in 2014 or 2016.

Benghazi has become a net win for the Democrats. Americans understand that the ME is a dangerous place and that attacks of Americans over there are old news. Each time it comes up, the voters will wonder why the witch hunt is going on.

It won't be a factor in 2014 or 2016.

You bet your ass the ME is a dangeruos place. You can also bet your ass the embassy Staff at Benghazi thought their bosses, The ******* State Department, had their backs. Guess not. They are now busily covering their own asses.

You might think Benghazi is a winner for the Dems but I doubt it.

Politically it is.

In the light of the Great Bush Iraqi misadventure where 4,000+ Americans died and tens of thousands were injured for absolutely zero real gain to our nation, the GOP fetish (I was going to say obsession but fetish is more appropriate...it's an obscene fixation that only they get pleasure out of) with Ben-Gotcha looks frankly stupid.

only to those that believe that the Obama administration is purely ethical and never makes a mistake.

And as the poll numbers are showing...that number is declining quite rapidly.

I don't think Obama has much of a shot in 2016.

No, he doesn't. Never said he did.

I was simply referring to the fact that those that agree with you are waning in numbers.

And I don't see you as a loser. I disagree with you, but I don't see you as a loser.

And what relevance does Obama's poll numbers have in this thread; 2 years out from an election in which he won't be running and four years removed from the presumptive Democratic nominee having served in his administration?

You remind me of the guys who bring up Ted Kennedy in defense of the GOP war on women....as if it is relevant.

 

[boedicca]

It really is appalling. When Nixon's abuses came to light, the GOP held him accountable - and he resigned.

What we have now in the Obama Administration is an Organized Crime Syndicate with Harry as a Fixer.

 

[Jarhead]

You bet your ass the ME is a dangeruos place. You can also bet your ass the embassy Staff at Benghazi thought their bosses, The ******* State Department, had their backs. Guess not. They are now busily covering their own asses.

You might think Benghazi is a winner for the Dems but I doubt it.

Politically it is.

In the light of the Great Bush Iraqi misadventure where 4,000+ Americans died and tens of thousands were injured for absolutely zero real gain to our nation, the GOP fetish (I was going to say obsession but fetish is more appropriate...it's an obscene fixation that only they get pleasure out of) with Ben-Gotcha looks frankly stupid.

only to those that believe that the Obama administration is purely ethical and never makes a mistake.

And as the poll numbers are showing...that number is declining quite rapidly.

Pfft...whatever loser.

332-206.

Very mature response.

You can't find anyone who thinks that Obama hasn't made a mistake (including Obama). Second term Presidents almost all have sinking poll numbers. Inmature perhaps but your lack of political sophistication is probably a greater sign of inmaturity. Which is why you were dubbed "loser"...what you're citing is barely relevant in one case and patently false in another.

Polls are showing that more people believe there is more to Benghazi and the IRS than meets the eye.

And I am sorry my "political sophistication" does not meet your standards. I consider myself well informed...and whereas I do not think I know all, I know enough to engage in a debate on this board. If you don't feel I am worthy of your time, then please, do not read or respond to my posts

But to call me a loser because I am not as politically sophisticated as you believe you are is, in my eyes, inappropriate and...as I said....immature.

 

[boedicca]

You bet your ass the ME is a dangeruos place. You can also bet your ass the embassy Staff at Benghazi thought their bosses, The ******* State Department, had their backs. Guess not. They are now busily covering their own asses.

You might think Benghazi is a winner for the Dems but I doubt it.

Politically it is.

In the light of the Great Bush Iraqi misadventure where 4,000+ Americans died and tens of thousands were injured for absolutely zero real gain to our nation, the GOP fetish (I was going to say obsession but fetish is more appropriate...it's an obscene fixation that only they get pleasure out of) with Ben-Gotcha looks frankly stupid.

only to those that believe that the Obama administration is purely ethical and never makes a mistake.

And as the poll numbers are showing...that number is declining quite rapidly.

Pfft...whatever loser.

332-206.

Very mature response.

You can't find anyone who thinks that Obama hasn't made a mistake (including Obama). Second term Presidents almost all have sinking poll numbers. Inmature perhaps but your lack of political sophistication is probably a greater sign of inmaturity. Which is why you were dubbed "loser"...what you're citing is barely relevant in one case and patently false in another.

"Mistakes were made." - yeah, right.

The only mistake to them is getting caught.

 

[PoliticalChic]

It really is appalling. When Nixon's abuses came to light, the GOP held him accountable - and he resigned.

What we have now in the Obama Administration is an Organized Crime Syndicate with Harry as a Fixer.

The penal code is their personal to-do list.

 

[AmericanFirst]

Benghazi has become a net win for the Democrats. Americans understand that the ME is a dangerous place and that attacks of Americans over there are old news. Each time it comes up, the voters will wonder why the witch hunt is going on.

It won't be a factor in 2014 or 2016.

Dream on.

 

[Pennywise]

If the press doesn't cover this, it doesn't matter.

 

[Hossfly]

Benghazi has become a net win for the Democrats. Americans understand that the ME is a dangerous place and that attacks of Americans over there are old news. Each time it comes up, the voters will wonder why the witch hunt is going on.

It won't be a factor in 2014 or 2016.

This old voter is wondering why in hell our Army isn't over there killing terrorists like cockroaches. And BTW, the Democrats are only winning scorn and contempt from loyal Americans.

Nonsense. The GOP controlled House of Reps has an approval rating in the single digits. I guess, in your warped sense of mathematics, 93% would be "disloyal" Americans?

You're simply incorrect.

How in hell did you arrive at any mathmatics or statistics from my post and how did GOP HOR float into the picture. You seem to be one of those Left wingnuts who project and put words in peoples' mouths they didn't say.

 

[Jarhead]

Benghazi has become a net win for the Democrats. Americans understand that the ME is a dangerous place and that attacks of Americans over there are old news. Each time it comes up, the voters will wonder why the witch hunt is going on.

It won't be a factor in 2014 or 2016.

This old voter is wondering why in hell our Army isn't over there killing terrorists like cockroaches. And BTW, the Democrats are only winning scorn and contempt from loyal Americans.

Nonsense. The GOP controlled House of Reps has an approval rating in the single digits. I guess, in your warped sense of mathematics, 93% would be "disloyal" Americans?

You're simply incorrect.

Actually, it is not the house that has that approval rating.

It is congress as a whole.

And the DEM controlled senate makes up part of congress.

And you refer to me as politically unsophisticated?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Nixon's greatest crime, Obstruction of Justice, is how Democrats conduct themselves on a daily basis

 

[candycorn]

Politically it is.

In the light of the Great Bush Iraqi misadventure where 4,000+ Americans died and tens of thousands were injured for absolutely zero real gain to our nation, the GOP fetish (I was going to say obsession but fetish is more appropriate...it's an obscene fixation that only they get pleasure out of) with Ben-Gotcha looks frankly stupid.

only to those that believe that the Obama administration is purely ethical and never makes a mistake.

And as the poll numbers are showing...that number is declining quite rapidly.

Pfft...whatever loser.

332-206.

Very mature response.

You can't find anyone who thinks that Obama hasn't made a mistake (including Obama). Second term Presidents almost all have sinking poll numbers. Inmature perhaps but your lack of political sophistication is probably a greater sign of inmaturity. Which is why you were dubbed "loser"...what you're citing is barely relevant in one case and patently false in another.

Polls are showing that more people believe there is more to Benghazi and the IRS than meets the eye.

I'm sure there are polls that show that. The IRS scandal is a scandal and the President should have been much more aggressive than he was. Ben-gotcha isn't a scandal and THIS is what you and your enablers at Fox are focusing on.

And I am sorry my "political sophistication" does not meet your standards. I consider myself well informed...and whereas I do not think I know all, I know enough to engage in a debate on this board. If you don't feel I am worthy of your time, then please, do not read or respond to my posts

But to call me a loser because I am not as politically sophisticated as you believe you are is, in my eyes, inappropriate and...as I said....immature.

Fair enough...

If terrorists are NOT to be blamed for terrorism and only those who are in power at the time are--as you're stating-- think about the 9/11/01 attacks.

GWB was in power and was re-elected 3 years later. His CIA/NSA/Military let it happen.

By the time 2016 rolls around, an attack on an American consulate in Lybia that resulted in the deaths of 4 people is going to somehow be front and center five years later?

 

[Hossfly]

“It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged.”
~~G.K.Chesterton

 

[Hossfly]

Benghazi has become a net win for the Democrats. Americans understand that the ME is a dangerous place and that attacks of Americans over there are old news. Each time it comes up, the voters will wonder why the witch hunt is going on.

It won't be a factor in 2014 or 2016.

This old voter is wondering why in hell our Army isn't over there killing terrorists like cockroaches. And BTW, the Democrats are only winning scorn and contempt from loyal Americans.

Nonsense. The GOP controlled House of Reps has an approval rating in the single digits. I guess, in your warped sense of mathematics, 93% would be "disloyal" Americans?

You're simply incorrect.

Actually, it is not the house that has that approval rating.

It is congress as a whole.

And the DEM controlled senate makes up part of congress.

And you refer to me as politically unsophisticated?

“There is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress.”
~Mark Twain

 

[Moonglow]

They're in the process of shooting the messenger.

Well, she's gonna be POTUS whether we like it or not. Chris Matthews needs some more thrills running up his other leg.

If he'd stop shaving his legs, he'd stop getting those chills...

 

[Jarhead]

only to those that believe that the Obama administration is purely ethical and never makes a mistake.

And as the poll numbers are showing...that number is declining quite rapidly.

Pfft...whatever loser.

332-206.

Very mature response.

You can't find anyone who thinks that Obama hasn't made a mistake (including Obama). Second term Presidents almost all have sinking poll numbers. Inmature perhaps but your lack of political sophistication is probably a greater sign of inmaturity. Which is why you were dubbed "loser"...what you're citing is barely relevant in one case and patently false in another.

Polls are showing that more people believe there is more to Benghazi and the IRS than meets the eye.

I'm sure there are polls that show that. The IRS scandal is a scandal and the President should have been much more aggressive than he was. Ben-gotcha isn't a scandal and THIS is what you and your enablers at Fox are focusing on.

And I am sorry my "political sophistication" does not meet your standards. I consider myself well informed...and whereas I do not think I know all, I know enough to engage in a debate on this board. If you don't feel I am worthy of your time, then please, do not read or respond to my posts

But to call me a loser because I am not as politically sophisticated as you believe you are is, in my eyes, inappropriate and...as I said....immature.

Fair enough...

If terrorists are NOT to be blamed for terrorism and only those who are in power at the time are--as you're stating-- think about the 9/11/01 attacks.

GWB was in power and was re-elected 3 years later. His CIA/NSA/Military let it happen.

By the time 2016 rolls around, an attack on an American consulate in Lybia that resulted in the deaths of 4 people is going to somehow be front and center five years later?

I believe you are not aware of my position on Benghazi. I do not blame President Obama for the loss of lives there. I do not blame him for the attacks themselves. I do not blame him for what proved to be the insufficient security.

What I blame is the attitude of the administration. The "not caring" optics.

For example.....Secretary Clinton said....(paraphrased)...
'we have read the results of the independent commission and have adopted and are currently implementing their suggestions'..

Now...on the outside, that sounds fine...actually sounds like what they SHOULD do...and yes, they should.

But....

Did the Secretary of State actually need an independent commission to advise her that she should never have let a lower level staffer deny security supplements to an Ambassador who was stationed in a very volatile country in the most volatile region in the world?

I mean.....did she really not know that already?

It seems to me that this administration was very "clueless" to basic logical protocols.

Like Fast and Furious....and please....just hear me out on this....

AG Eric Holder said (Paraphrased)...

"I did not know of the operation because there are many operations that are taking place at once and I can not know of all of them"....

Fair enough....

But if he is not to be informed of an operation that included the smuggling of arms over the border of an ally, without the knowledge of the government of that ally and furnishing them to the enemy of that ally (the cartels were declared enemies of the government of Mexico)....then what would be deemed worthy of him being informed of?

Again, a scandal? no. But to deny knowing about it? That is what makes it worthy of serious discussion.

 

[Claudette]

Benghazi has become a net win for the Democrats. Americans understand that the ME is a dangerous place and that attacks of Americans over there are old news. Each time it comes up, the voters will wonder why the witch hunt is going on.

It won't be a factor in 2014 or 2016.

Benghazi has become a net win for the Democrats. Americans understand that the ME is a dangerous place and that attacks of Americans over there are old news. Each time it comes up, the voters will wonder why the witch hunt is going on.

It won't be a factor in 2014 or 2016.

You bet your ass the ME is a dangeruos place. You can also bet your ass the embassy Staff at Benghazi thought their bosses, The ******* State Department, had their backs. Guess not. They are now busily covering their own asses.

You might think Benghazi is a winner for the Dems but I doubt it.

Politically it is.

In the light of the Great Bush Iraqi misadventure where 4,000+ Americans died and tens of thousands were injured for absolutely zero real gain to our nation, the GOP fetish (I was going to say obsession but fetish is more appropriate...it's an obscene fixation that only they get pleasure out of) with Ben-Gotcha looks frankly stupid.

only to those that believe that the Obama administration is purely ethical and never makes a mistake.

And as the poll numbers are showing...that number is declining quite rapidly.

Pfft...whatever loser.

332-206.

Pshhaw...whatever loser.

 

[candycorn]

It really is appalling. When Nixon's abuses came to light, the GOP held him accountable - and he resigned.

What we have now in the Obama Administration is an Organized Crime Syndicate with Harry as a Fixer.

And in this era of complete mis-trust between the GOP and Obama, do you think for a second that there would be any hesitation from the House to impeach him if there was any evidence of high crimes being committed? The only one talking about impeachment is crazy old Sarah Palin and the GOP couldn't distance itself fast enough from her.

 

[candycorn]

Pfft...whatever loser.

332-206.

Very mature response.

You can't find anyone who thinks that Obama hasn't made a mistake (including Obama). Second term Presidents almost all have sinking poll numbers. Inmature perhaps but your lack of political sophistication is probably a greater sign of inmaturity. Which is why you were dubbed "loser"...what you're citing is barely relevant in one case and patently false in another.

Polls are showing that more people believe there is more to Benghazi and the IRS than meets the eye.

I'm sure there are polls that show that. The IRS scandal is a scandal and the President should have been much more aggressive than he was. Ben-gotcha isn't a scandal and THIS is what you and your enablers at Fox are focusing on.

And I am sorry my "political sophistication" does not meet your standards. I consider myself well informed...and whereas I do not think I know all, I know enough to engage in a debate on this board. If you don't feel I am worthy of your time, then please, do not read or respond to my posts

But to call me a loser because I am not as politically sophisticated as you believe you are is, in my eyes, inappropriate and...as I said....immature.

Fair enough...

If terrorists are NOT to be blamed for terrorism and only those who are in power at the time are--as you're stating-- think about the 9/11/01 attacks.

GWB was in power and was re-elected 3 years later. His CIA/NSA/Military let it happen.

By the time 2016 rolls around, an attack on an American consulate in Lybia that resulted in the deaths of 4 people is going to somehow be front and center five years later?

I believe you are not aware of my position on Benghazi. I do not blame President Obama for the loss of lives there. I do not blame him for the attacks themselves. I do not blame him for what proved to be the insufficient security.

What I blame is the attitude of the administration. The "not caring" optics.

For example.....Secretary Clinton said....(paraphrased)...
'we have read the results of the independent commission and have adopted and are currently implementing their suggestions'..

Now...on the outside, that sounds fine...actually sounds like what they SHOULD do...and yes, they should.

But....

Did the Secretary of State actually need an independent commission to advise her that she should never have let a lower level staffer deny security supplements to an Ambassador who was stationed in a very volatile country in the most volatile region in the world?

I mean.....did she really not know that already?

It seems to me that this administration was very "clueless" to basic logical protocols.

Like Fast and Furious....and please....just hear me out on this....

AG Eric Holder said (Paraphrased)...

"I did not know of the operation because there are many operations that are taking place at once and I can not know of all of them"....

Fair enough....

But if he is not to be informed of an operation that included the smuggling of arms over the border of an ally, without the knowledge of the government of that ally and furnishing them to the enemy of that ally (the cartels were declared enemies of the government of Mexico)....then what would be deemed worthy of him being informed of?

Again, a scandal? no. But to deny knowing about it? That is what makes it worthy of serious discussion.

And haven't our leaders (not to mention us on this message board) had that serious discussion ad nauseum? Again the point is how it impacts 2016 in this thread.

No impact whatsoever if history holds. Of course Draft Dodger GWB was able to paint decorated Vietnam Veteran Kerry as soft on Defense in 2014 so anything is possible.

 

[Mad Scientist]

GWB is a Draft Dodger? How did he accomplish THAT while flying F-102's in the National Guard?

Oh you mean the "Fake but Accurate" Dan Rather memo's right?