Hey Lefties....shouldn't we increase taxes on EVERYBODY in the U.S.?

[Big Fitz]

Yes. Recend the Bush tax cuts. Demand a balanced budget amendment.

Repeal the bush tax cuts and watch overall tax monies decrease. Yeah, good plan. Balanced budget amendments are doomed to failure. All that happens is an automatic INCREASE in taxation to cover the shortfall.

Yeah, that'll be helpful.

Recending the Bush cuts would raise taxes on everyone. There is no evidence that it would result in fewer overall taxes. Without a Balanced Budget requirement modern day Politicians will continue to run up record deficits.

Without fiscal responsibility, there will be spending increases. With a balanced budget amendment, they will just automatically raise taxes to cover the short fall till you are ready to start shooting them to stop them. Of course, they will have a well funded military to stomp you out like a cigarette butt.

It is a shown fact that the W tax cuts increased overall tax revenues, due to consumption and other forms of taxation that superseded the loss by any decrease in income taxation, if any.

 

[BlindBoo]

Repeal the bush tax cuts and watch overall tax monies decrease. Yeah, good plan. Balanced budget amendments are doomed to failure. All that happens is an automatic INCREASE in taxation to cover the shortfall.

Yeah, that'll be helpful.

Recending the Bush cuts would raise taxes on everyone. There is no evidence that it would result in fewer overall taxes. Without a Balanced Budget requirement modern day Politicians will continue to run up record deficits.

Without fiscal responsibility, there will be spending increases. With a balanced budget amendment, they will just automatically raise taxes to cover the short fall till you are ready to start shooting them to stop them. Of course, they will have a well funded military to stomp you out like a cigarette butt.

It is a shown fact that the W tax cuts increased overall tax revenues, due to consumption and other forms of taxation that superseded the loss by any decrease in income taxation, if any.

The increase in revenue was due to the expanding housing bubble (and we all know how that ended), not the tax cuts.

 

[Big Fitz]

Recending the Bush cuts would raise taxes on everyone. There is no evidence that it would result in fewer overall taxes. Without a Balanced Budget requirement modern day Politicians will continue to run up record deficits.

Without fiscal responsibility, there will be spending increases. With a balanced budget amendment, they will just automatically raise taxes to cover the short fall till you are ready to start shooting them to stop them. Of course, they will have a well funded military to stomp you out like a cigarette butt.

It is a shown fact that the W tax cuts increased overall tax revenues, due to consumption and other forms of taxation that superseded the loss by any decrease in income taxation, if any.

The increase in revenue was due to the expanding housing bubble (and we all know how that ended), not the tax cuts.

Spin it any way you like. It happened after the Internet and housing bubbles popped.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

TAX! TAX! TAX!....socialism being the new world order and all.....

the average worldwide income is only $7,000.....and the world median income is only $1,700.......that means EVERYBODY in the U.S. is RICH....!

Countries with an average income near $7,000 include Mexico, Chile, and Latvia. They rank about 40th in the global income table.

As of 2005, people living in rich countries had an average income of about $35,000. The high incomes in these countries make the world average income four times larger than the world median income, which was $1,700 that year.

Average income worldwide is $7,000 - The Boston Globe

Ya well what those raw figures don’t represent is the cost of living in those parts of the world where the median income is lowest.

For instance one can spend $10 dollars on lunch alone here in the U.S., but ten bucks might buy you two goats and a chicken in Zimbabwe. Likewise a fulltime minimum wage monthly paycheck might buy one a three bedroom house with yard in Myanmar, but Americans don’t live in Myanmar; it barely pays rent and utilities here.

So the truth is that conservative argument is a fat load of bull.

why you insensitive fat load of bullshit capitalistic pig bastard......!

i'm sure that guy in Zimbabwe would be more than happy to trade his goat and chickens for your nice car, computer, clothes, home with running water, refrigerator full of supermarket food.....and so on....

you need to be taxed on all that RICH income you have that you willy nilly spend on such selfish things so we can send it to the POOR in Zimbabwe and elsewhere....!

a true socialist never rests until WE ARE ALL EQUAL.............!

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Hey Lefties....shouldn't we increase taxes on EVERYBODY in the U.S.?

You mean.....end the.....

....Bush tax-cuts????

Sure!!​

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Damn..where did the OP run off too?

It takes them a little-longer, than most, to realize they've.....

.....fucked-UP!!!!!

 

[freedombecki]

No, it's the very weathy who have found ways around paying their fair share for years and years.

They need to catch up with the rest of us.

America is about encouraging inventions and good ideas. It is not a good idea to take away from someone who gave us a better product or service for less.

It is a horrible idea to make people not doing as well they have no gift you will accept in the form of taxes that helps them pay for their own government goods and services.

If you want class distinctions, go someplace else. India has a nice class system where upper classes do not speak to nor acknowledge lower classes, and class distinctions number several hundred levels. You marry, reproduce, and stay forever in your own class there.

Push for classes, you'll get classes.

In America, we are for the best ideas, inventions, work output, and can-do productions.

Please do not communize America. As time wears on, communists kill whoever doesn't do as they command, and there is no free thought.

Do not punish people that do well, Sarah G. People that do not do as well, we need to give them incentives to do better, not foist undeserved wealth on them. The person who doesn't want better things will not take care of them, and they will squander money on drugs and self-abuse if you give it to them.

In America, we believe the best result is had when people have to work for a better life, not have a living handed to them on a silver platter.

Our founders knew this and set up a basis for which we can make and achieve goals.

Since nobody is hungry here, it's time to branch out and help them rise if they want to rise. In order to do that, they have to speak the language of the nation, learn to take care of themselves, pay the same amount for services everyone else does. This will not happen if you give squandrous people money to squander. Instead of improving themselves with your gifts, they just squander it 99% of the time, so why waste money on that?

Don't make America into a Communist nation. Here's what socialized communists have done in the last century or so in order to foist "improvements" on people who don't cowtow to their demands.

Communist Body Count, 149,469,610

Those who employ people are considered "wealthy" by some of the employed, particularly union members, who are punished if their beliefs differ in any way from union bosses in the name of "respect."

Don't make America into a Marxist, Socialist, or Communist society if you can get around it.

We're a reasonable mix right now. Nobody's hungry, there are scads of unused college tuition funds available to those who wish for a higher education, America is a good place to live.

It won't be a good place to live if you govern people to death, if you work people to death in gulags doing jobs they despise, and if you take freedom of choice away--that freedom includes loafing & doing poorly or working and doing well, the choice is freely the individual's choice to make.

Don't communize America.

 

[BlindBoo]

Without fiscal responsibility, there will be spending increases. With a balanced budget amendment, they will just automatically raise taxes to cover the short fall till you are ready to start shooting them to stop them. Of course, they will have a well funded military to stomp you out like a cigarette butt.

It is a shown fact that the W tax cuts increased overall tax revenues, due to consumption and other forms of taxation that superseded the loss by any decrease in income taxation, if any.

The increase in revenue was due to the expanding housing bubble (and we all know how that ended), not the tax cuts.

Spin it any way you like. It happened after the Internet and housing bubbles popped.

Tax revenues increased after the Housing bubble popped? I don't think so. After microsoft lost and 9-11 attacks, the increase revenues were directly attributed to the housing bubble and the downstream effects on the economy. Not the tax cuts.

 

[kaz]

the increase revenues were directly attributed to the housing bubble and the downstream effects on the economy. Not the tax cuts.

It was the tax cuts more then housing. Your housing bubble argument makes no sense. Taxes aren't paid unless houses are sold and then you get like half a million for a couple to write off and then they pay long term gain rates. If you're referring to people borrowing against their homes, it's still not big enough to have THAT large an impact.

I wasn't a big fan of the tax cuts. They are better then not doing them, but Bush did them in such a way that they made taxes more complex, which reduces the value of them due to the overhead in processing them. We need simplification and cuts, not complexity and cuts. But your argument is silly.

 

[Steelplate]

TAX! TAX! TAX!....socialism being the new world order and all.....

the average worldwide income is only $7,000.....and the world median income is only $1,700.......that means EVERYBODY in the U.S. is RICH....!

Countries with an average income near $7,000 include Mexico, Chile, and Latvia. They rank about 40th in the global income table.

As of 2005, people living in rich countries had an average income of about $35,000. The high incomes in these countries make the world average income four times larger than the world median income, which was $1,700 that year.

Average income worldwide is $7,000 - The Boston Globe

Nahhh... just you.... you can pay 100%.

 

[BlindBoo]

the increase revenues were directly attributed to the housing bubble and the downstream effects on the economy. Not the tax cuts.

It was the tax cuts more then housing. Your housing bubble argument makes no sense. Taxes aren't paid unless houses are sold and then you get like half a million for a couple to write off and then they pay long term gain rates. If you're referring to people borrowing against their homes, it's still not big enough to have THAT large an impact.

I wasn't a big fan of the tax cuts. They are better then not doing them, but Bush did them in such a way that they made taxes more complex, which reduces the value of them due to the overhead in processing them. We need simplification and cuts, not complexity and cuts. But your argument is silly.

The downsteam effects I refer to is the big ticket items homeowners purchase not
the loans themselves.