Heroes and villains of Health reform

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Heroes and villains of health reform - The Week

Heroes

1. President Obama relied on the long game, disdaining counsel to go for something small and safe, and refusing to turn in the face of a political firestorm. His performance wasn't perfect, but he has been steadfast, and he's now headed for a defining moment-- for the nation and his presidency.

2. Nancy Pelosi, who Republicans and tea-baggers love to hate, has earned their enmity. As Speaker of the House, she has ably led, cajoled and juggled the shifting coalitions of a fractious party, and appears on the verge of corralling enough votes to get the job done.

3. House Progressives are proving to be bigger than the fine points of their ideology. Pro-choice members have decided to live with the Senate prohibition on public funding for abortion. Almost to a person, indeed to a Kucinich, the advocates of single-payer and a public option have agreed to settle -- for now -- for something less

4. Mitt Romney. The former Governor of Massachusetts is an unwilling hero who would surely turn this Shrummie Award down. Before he took up kowtowing to the far right-- an unconvincing exercise that may nonetheless earn him a GOP presidential nomination -- albeit one even more thankless and morally bankrupt than the last -- Romney worked closely with Ted Kennedy and other Democrats to enact a statewide health plan that's a model for Obama's reform.

Villains

1. A tie between the Senate and House Republican Leaders, Mitch McConnell and John Boehner. McConnell has confessed that he plotted total opposition to reform before he even knew what was in the bill. (Given the GOP’s indifference to policy, he may still not know.) Along with the bronze Boehner, a coconut-butter poltergeist of Newt Gingrich, McConnell keeps a teapot of lies at the ready.

2. Chuck Grassley. The dour, duplicitous Senator from Iowa pretended to be bargaining with his earnest Democratic colleague Max Baucus, then suddenly turned and denounced the "death panels" that were never in the bill.

3. Bart Stupak is the somewhat Democratic congressman from Michigan who contrived the original House legislation’s backdoor attempt to outlaw abortion. He's refused all rational compromise, even insisting, falsely, that the Senate alternative pays for abortion
 

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Dont forget the asshole who stood in front of the cameras yesterday and threatened the people who voted for it.

He said he would put an HOLD on any person who voted for it and left public office and then got an appointment to a government post.
 

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Dont forget the asshole who stood in front of the cameras yesterday and threatened the people who voted for it.

He said he would put an HOLD on any person who voted for it and left public office and then got an appointment to a government post.

Nothing like stepping on your dick, Coburn....
 

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I hope when you all get started paying all those Fines and Taxes for this Health care takeover you still call those people your heroes.

boy will I laugh then.
 

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You are already laughing at the deaths of Americans.
 

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Caterpillar: Health care bill would cost it $100M
Published on March 19, 2010 7:10 AM | Submit a comment
Dow Jones Newswires | Caterpillar Inc. said the health-care overhaul legislation being considered by the U.S. House would increase the company's health-care costs by more than $100 million in the first year alone.

In a letter Thursday to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and House Republican Leader John Boehner of Ohio, Caterpillar urged lawmakers to vote against the plan "because of the substantial cost burdens it would place on our shareholders, employees and retirees."
Caterpillar, the world's largest construction machinery manufacturer by sales, said it's particularly opposed to provisions in the bill that would expand Medicare taxes and mandate insurance coverage. The legislation would require nearly all companies to provide health insurance for their employees or face large fines.

The Peoria-based company said these provisions would increase its insurance costs by at least 20 percent, or more than $100 million, just in the first year of the health-care overhaul program.
 

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I hope when you all get started paying all those Fines and Taxes for this Health care takeover you still call those people your heroes.

boy will I laugh then.

it says a lot about these wormy little bastards who call thugs and backroon asskissers their heroes.
 

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These idiots didnt get the CBO report I guess.

You can still enjoy the deaths of those who died while the republicans fiddled you heartless cons. I know it pains you that more Americans will now live because they were able to get the care they needed to live.
 

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Caterpillar: Health care bill would cost it $100M
Published on March 19, 2010 7:10 AM | Submit a comment
Dow Jones Newswires | Caterpillar Inc. said the health-care overhaul legislation being considered by the U.S. House would increase the company's health-care costs by more than $100 million in the first year alone.

In a letter Thursday to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and House Republican Leader John Boehner of Ohio, Caterpillar urged lawmakers to vote against the plan "because of the substantial cost burdens it would place on our shareholders, employees and retirees."
Caterpillar, the world's largest construction machinery manufacturer by sales, said it's particularly opposed to provisions in the bill that would expand Medicare taxes and mandate insurance coverage. The legislation would require nearly all companies to provide health insurance for their employees or face large fines.

The Peoria-based company said these provisions would increase its insurance costs by at least 20 percent, or more than $100 million, just in the first year of the health-care overhaul program.

The devil is in the details. The question is WHAT, in particular is going to cost them $100M? Do you have any idea?
 
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In spite of the demonization from the right wing, Nancy Pelosi will come out as a hero in the passing of healthcare reform. In spite of all the intransience, obstruction, threats and egos involved, Pelosi has been able to hammer out a deal.

With this bill alone, Pelosi will go down as one of the most effective speakers in decades.
 

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In spite of the demonization from the right wing, Nancy Pelosi will come out as a hero in the passing of healthcare reform. In spite of all the intransience, obstruction, threats and egos involved, Pelosi has been able to hammer out a deal.

With this bill alone, Pelosi will go down as one of the most effective speakers in decades.

you have to be kidding right? :cuckoo:

even CNN is calling her sleazy and a liar based on her past promises of transparency and reform of procedures
 

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In spite of the demonization from the right wing, Nancy Pelosi will come out as a hero in the passing of healthcare reform. In spite of all the intransience, obstruction, threats and egos involved, Pelosi has been able to hammer out a deal.

With this bill alone, Pelosi will go down as one of the most effective speakers in decades.

LOL, you just go on dreaming that one.
Congress approval rating at 17%, Obama approval rating after just ONE YEAR at where President Bush was when he left office after EIGHT YEARS
Pelosi's approval rating has to be in the shitter bout now.:lol:
 

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The people who live instead of die due to lack of care will think she is a hero.

I know you really wish they would just die instead though blu.
 

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In spite of the demonization from the right wing, Nancy Pelosi will come out as a hero in the passing of healthcare reform. In spite of all the intransience, obstruction, threats and egos involved, Pelosi has been able to hammer out a deal.

With this bill alone, Pelosi will go down as one of the most effective speakers in decades.

Pelosi is bad for the Democratic party. She is bad for California. She is bad for America. Pelosi needs to go.
 
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In spite of the demonization from the right wing, Nancy Pelosi will come out as a hero in the passing of healthcare reform. In spite of all the intransience, obstruction, threats and egos involved, Pelosi has been able to hammer out a deal.

With this bill alone, Pelosi will go down as one of the most effective speakers in decades.

LOL, you just go on dreaming that one.
Congress approval rating at 17%, Obama approval rating after just ONE YEAR at where President Bush was when he left office after EIGHT YEARS
Pelosi's approval rating has to be in the shitter bout now.:lol:

A Speakers career is not defined by approval ratings. It is defined by accomplishments. Denny Hastert was speaker for eight years and most Americans still do not know who he was. Pelosi will be able to show her work in hammering out the most significant legislation in our generation as well as Stimulus, TARP and the recent jobs bill.
History will not laud Pelosi for her popularity, but her accomplishments will place her among the top Speakers in 40 years
 

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In spite of the demonization from the right wing, Nancy Pelosi will come out as a hero in the passing of healthcare reform. In spite of all the intransience, obstruction, threats and egos involved, Pelosi has been able to hammer out a deal.

With this bill alone, Pelosi will go down as one of the most effective speakers in decades.

Pelosi is bad for the Democratic party. She is bad for California. She is bad for America. Pelosi needs to go.

Pelosi has kicked ass and taken names and now after DECADES a health care bill may actually pass.

You seem to lose sight of this fact.
 

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In spite of the demonization from the right wing, Nancy Pelosi will come out as a hero in the passing of healthcare reform. In spite of all the intransience, obstruction, threats and egos involved, Pelosi has been able to hammer out a deal.

With this bill alone, Pelosi will go down as one of the most effective speakers in decades.

Pelosi is bad for the Democratic party. She is bad for California. She is bad for America. Pelosi needs to go.

Pelosi has kicked ass and taken names and now after DECADES a health care bill may actually pass.

You seem to lose sight of this fact.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi recently told a group of both legal and illegal immigrants and their families that enforcement of existing immigration laws, as currently practiced, is "un-American."

The speaker, condemning raids by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents, referred to the immigrants she was addressing as "very, very patriotic."

"Who in this country would not want to change a policy of kicking in doors in the middle of the night and sending a parent away from their families?" Pelosi told a mostly Hispanic gathering at St. Anthony's Church in San Francisco.

Video: Click here to view the video of Pelosi speaking.

"It must be stopped....What value system is that? I think it's un-American. I think it's un-American."

I have lost sight of NOTHING....
 

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