Herman Cain Says U.S. Communities 'Have the Right' to Ban Mosques

[oldsalt]

Funny innit? All this concern about mosque building? The entire congress gets up daily to say a prayer and obie doodle who is paid by the US taxpayer always says "God Bless The United States of America" but we aren't able to say a prayer in school and it's becoming increasingly difficult to have a creche at Christmas and to fly the American flag. What's up with all this bullshit doyathink?

Probably because douches like you try to force everyone to believe and act as you do.

 

[oldsalt]

Funny innit? All this concern about mosque building? The entire congress gets up daily to say a prayer and obie doodle who is paid by the US taxpayer always says "God Bless The United States of America" but we aren't able to say a prayer in school and it's becoming increasingly difficult to have a creche at Christmas and to fly the American flag. What's up with all this bullshit doyathink?

A Christian can pray wherever and whenever they want. Forcing children to pray in school is wrong. When I am in America it is almost sickening to see how many flags are flown. What is your point here?

Feel free to not come back, like EVER. But, while you're here, it'd please us no end if you just kept your mouth shut.

Same goes for you. Someone should just slam an alabama hotpocket into your piehole and shut you the **** up.

 

[Sunshine]

Funny innit? All this concern about mosque building? The entire congress gets up daily to say a prayer and obie doodle who is paid by the US taxpayer always says "God Bless The United States of America" but we aren't able to say a prayer in school and it's becoming increasingly difficult to have a creche at Christmas and to fly the American flag. What's up with all this bullshit doyathink?

A Christian can pray wherever and whenever they want. Forcing children to pray in school is wrong. When I am in America it is almost sickening to see how many flags are flown. What is your point here?

So can muslim children. But they aren't being told this:

Public schools grapple with Muslim prayer / The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com

For now, about 100 students in the Arabic language program at Carver Elementary School are finishing their first year under a daily schedule that gives them a 15-minute recess period in the afternoon, about an hour after lunch. Many of the students are Muslim and transferred from an Arabic-language charter school that folded. Carver Elementary revised its schedule so the students would have the option to pray at the specific times ordained by their religion, says attorney Brent North, who represents the school district. A teacher is present to watch the praying children but cannot lead or take part in the observance.

 

[Sunshine]

BTW: I think there should be more mosques, enough to accommodate every single muslim in the US. That way we can know who they are, where they are, and where their money goes.

 

[rightwinger]

Funny innit? All this concern about mosque building? The entire congress gets up daily to say a prayer and obie doodle who is paid by the US taxpayer always says "God Bless The United States of America" but we aren't able to say a prayer in school and it's becoming increasingly difficult to have a creche at Christmas and to fly the American flag. What's up with all this bullshit doyathink?

The government has no more right to allow prayer in school than they do to tell children God does not exist in school. Creches belong in churches, not public property

No where does the government prohibit flying the American flag. You can prohibit it on private property though

 

[gautama]

i didnt get the .....racism was different in the 50's cause it was based on skin color...while his is based on religion or as he tried to spin it......possible terrorist

No he did a poor job of explaining himself,what he was trying to point out the is NON separation of church and state, that Islam demands,and the conflict caused by this stance.

The threat of radical Islam is real and shouldn't be ignored,nor should we trample on our freedoms for some thoughts of safety.

Chicken, you should rename yourself as the proverbial ostrich....one who buries his head in the sand.

 

[gautama]

These idiotic rants of his are the reason he will never get his parties nomination for president.

SunniBitch,

WHERE THE **** DO YOU GET THE GALL TO INSULT ANYONE WHO WANTS TO BAN MOSQUES WHEN ONE OF THE FIRST THING YOU ******* MUSLIMS DO IN THE COUNTRIES YOU CONTROL, LIKE SAUDI ARABIA, IS TO BAN OTHER PLACES OF WORSHIP LIKE CHURCHES, SYNAGOGUES, AND TEMPLES THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE COUNTRY ?!?!?

Not only that, you ******* Muslims, especially the "TRUE" Muslims who follow your ******* Qu'Ran concocted by the Historically Documented MASS MURDERER, THIEF, RAPIST & PEDOPHILIC RAPIST MOHAMNMED are ENEMIES of the World's populations because of the FIRST DICTUM which according to your PSYCHO PROPHET MOHAMMED, clearly enunciated as THE MOST DICTUM TO SUPERCEDE ALL OTHERS is: "Make ISLAM the Caliphate of the World, preferably by word, by SWORD (caps mine) if necessary " !!!!!

Thus, with this First Instruction by your ******* MOHAMMED any Musloim following his clearly spelled out FIRST INSTRUCTION is an arsehole with an AGENDA !!!

The Mid East Imams, especially the Shiite Wahhabis are the most FANATICAL Muslim arseholes extant, followed by the almost equally oppressive Sunni arsehole Imams governing Iran !!!

Are the BILLION or more Muslims all bloodthirsty savages like the FANATICAL Wahhabi arseholes who, blackmailing the willing Saudi Royalty, finance ~ 95% of the Mosques in America ????

ANSWER: Fortunately, NO !!!

It might be reasonable to suppose that probably 1/2 of the ******* Muslims in the World, especially those outside the Mid East are either NOT "True" Muslims, ignoprand of the FIRST DICTUM of the PSYCHO Mohammed, or choose, consciously to reject Mohammed's barbaric "First Dictum".

The same may be true of the ******* Muslims in America ........ although that is doubtful because, as stated, ~95% of the ******* Muslims in America go to the aforesaid Mosques totally run by the FANATICAL WAHHABI ARSEHOILES !!!

Do these American Muslims pose a threat as our "ENEMY WITHIN" ?????

Answer: **** YES !!!!

Would ALL the ******* Muslims in America become bloodthirsty savages at a moment's notice ???

Answer: "**** NO !!!!

But, OBVIOUSLY, the overwhelming majority of the ******* Muslims in America who attend these ******* Wahhabi Mosques, will, in all probability, just sit idly by, when enough of these FANATICAL ******* Wahhabi-type Muslims reach critical mass, to FIRST start by transforming communities governed by Sharia Law.....as the first step. You can use as an example, England and some of the Scandinavian Countries WHERE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE OFF LIMITS TO THE COUNTRY'S OWN CITIZENS BECAUSE OF THE FANATICAL MUSLIM POPULATION WITHIN THOSE COUNTRIES !!!!

And, guess what ?????

Our MONUMENTAL MARXIST FRAUD, RACIST, AND MUSLIM & ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT PROTECTOR, OBUMMER not only has CAIR (Council on American Islam Relations)....an OBVIOUS Islamofascist Front created by two of the Hamas Leaders ....masquerading around as "The Voice of Moderate Islam" approved by Obummer and his Administration to teach our Governmental employees and MILITARY.....and have Obami Salaami's Head of Homeland Security, Janet Incompetano HIRE these Muslim Apparatchiks into the highest levels in her Administration.......but Obummer is on record for INITIATINGtalks with the Muslim Brotherhood....the MOST VIRULENT AVOWED ........ I say, AVOWED ENEMY OF AMERICA !!!

To show you how ingrained the ******* Obamarrhoidal Administration is: Hellary's assistant in Mid East Affairs, and close "friend" is none other than Weanie Weiner's Muslim wife Humus, Humass (or whatever her name is) who is a member of the Muslim Sisterhood......as well as her mommy, one of the Big Shots in the Muslim Sisterhood, the gender counterpart of the Muslim Brotherhood aho are the AVOWED SWORN ENEMIES OF AMERICA !!!

So, when Herman Cain states that he is for communities wanting to ban Mosques ????

I say THOUSANDS of BRAVOS and HOWLING HURRAHS for our FIRST BRAVE & PERCEPTIVE POLITICIAN to recognize America's ENEMY WITHIN" !!!!

I thought white supremacists were America's enemy within? At least to Cain they are.

Shitty Jones,

You really should get your LIEberrhoidal head outa your arse.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Funny innit? All this concern about mosque building? The entire congress gets up daily to say a prayer and obie doodle who is paid by the US taxpayer always says "God Bless The United States of America" but we aren't able to say a prayer in school and it's becoming increasingly difficult to have a creche at Christmas and to fly the American flag. What's up with all this bullshit doyathink?

What’s up is you’re profoundly ignorant of the basics of Constitutional case law on the subject. What’s troubling is you’re far from alone.

Schools elsewhere in the country have made decisions quietly, such as allowing Muslim students to avoid strenuous exercise while they're fasting. In Dearborn, Mich., schools offer students the option of eating hot dogs and chicken nuggets made with meat that has been slaughtered in accordance with Islamic law. The Dearborn district, where at least 1 in 3 students is of Middle Eastern descent – some of which are Muslim – also schedules two days off during the Islamic holiday of Ramadan.

That may sound unusual, "but most Americans don't think about the fact that schools naturally accommodate Christians," says Lisa Soronen, an attorney with the National School Boards Association. "There's no school on Sunday, and we get days off for most of the major Christian holidays."

Ms. Soronen, who's gotten more questions about Islam and schools over the past two or three years, said it's unclear how courts might react to Muslim prayer rooms, because judges haven't addressed that particular issue.

One of the few advantages of being a minority religion in a predominately Christian society: the extremely remote possibility of government Establishment Clause violations.

 

[WillowTree]

Funny innit? All this concern about mosque building? The entire congress gets up daily to say a prayer and obie doodle who is paid by the US taxpayer always says "God Bless The United States of America" but we aren't able to say a prayer in school and it's becoming increasingly difficult to have a creche at Christmas and to fly the American flag. What's up with all this bullshit doyathink?

What’s up is you’re profoundly ignorant of the basics of Constitutional case law on the subject. What’s troubling is you’re far from alone.

Schools elsewhere in the country have made decisions quietly, such as allowing Muslim students to avoid strenuous exercise while they're fasting. In Dearborn, Mich., schools offer students the option of eating hot dogs and chicken nuggets made with meat that has been slaughtered in accordance with Islamic law. The Dearborn district, where at least 1 in 3 students is of Middle Eastern descent – some of which are Muslim – also schedules two days off during the Islamic holiday of Ramadan.

That may sound unusual, "but most Americans don't think about the fact that schools naturally accommodate Christians," says Lisa Soronen, an attorney with the National School Boards Association. "There's no school on Sunday, and we get days off for most of the major Christian holidays."

Ms. Soronen, who's gotten more questions about Islam and schools over the past two or three years, said it's unclear how courts might react to Muslim prayer rooms, because judges haven't addressed that particular issue.

One of the few advantages of being a minority religion in a predominately Christian society: the extremely remote possibility of government Establishment Clause violations.

whatever the **** that means..

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Sounds like Mr. Cain is a tad bit ignorant on the First Amendment.

I don't think so. what he pointed out was the religion was the same as the law and here in AMERICA we have a seperation of church and state..

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

I'm not sure what part of that confuses you.

 

[bodecea]

He seems more like a bigot to me

That too. He seems all too willing to throw out the Constitution when it comes to Islam.

You mean like the left do to Christians?

Hypocrisy is never a good thing.

Oh yes...Christians are so persecuted here.

 

[WillowTree]

Sounds like Mr. Cain is a tad bit ignorant on the First Amendment.

I don't think so. what he pointed out was the religion was the same as the law and here in AMERICA we have a seperation of church and state..

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

I'm not sure what part of that confuses you.

why are you confused about what I'm confused about, do you lack comprehension????

 

[bodecea]

These idiotic rants of his are the reason he will never get his parties nomination for president.

SunniBitch,

WHERE THE **** DO YOU GET THE GALL TO INSULT ANYONE WHO WANTS TO BAN MOSQUES WHEN ONE OF THE FIRST THING YOU ******* MUSLIMS DO IN THE COUNTRIES YOU CONTROL, LIKE SAUDI ARABIA, IS TO BAN OTHER PLACES OF WORSHIP LIKE CHURCHES, SYNAGOGUES, AND TEMPLES THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE COUNTRY ?!?!?

Not only that, you ******* Muslims, especially the "TRUE" Muslims who follow your ******* Qu'Ran concocted by the Historically Documented MASS MURDERER, THIEF, RAPIST & PEDOPHILIC RAPIST MOHAMNMED are ENEMIES of the World's populations because of the QU'RANIC FIRST DICTUM which according to your PSYCHO PROPHET MOHAMMED, clearly enunciated as THE MOST DICTUM TO SUPERCEDE ALL OTHERS is: "Make ISLAM the Caliphate of the World, preferably by word, by SWORD (caps mine) if necessary " !!!!!

Thus, with this First Instruction by your ******* MOHAMMED any Muslim following his clearly spelled out FIRST INSTRUCTION is an arsehole with a BLOODTHIRSTY AGENDA !!!

The Mid East Imams, especially the Shiite Wahhabis are the most FANATICAL Muslim arseholes extant, followed by the almost equally oppressive Sunni arsehole Imams governing Iran !!!

Are the BILLION or more Muslims all bloodthirsty savages like the FANATICAL Wahhabi arseholes who, blackmailing the willing Saudi Royalty, finance ~ 95% of the Mosques in America ????

ANSWER: Fortunately, NO !!!

It might be reasonable to suppose that probably 1/2 (or more) of the ******* Muslims in the World, especially those outside the Mid East are either NOT "True" Muslims, ignorant of the FIRST DICTUM of the PSYCHO Mohammed, or choose, consciously, to reject Mohammed's barbaric "First Dictum".

The same may be true of the ******* Muslims in America ........ although that is doubtful because, as stated, ~95% of the ******* Muslims in America go to the aforesaid Mosques totally run by the FANATICAL WAHHABI ARSEHOLES !!!

Do these American Muslims pose a threat as our "ENEMY WITHIN" ?????

Answer: **** YES !!!!

Would ALL the ******* Muslims in America become bloodthirsty savages at a moment's notice ???

Answer: "**** NO !!!!. Most would, cowardly, sit on the sidelines HOPING that their bloodthirsty colleagues would do the "dirty" work.

So, OBVIOUSLY, the overwhelming majority of the ******* Muslims in America who attend these ******* Wahhabi Mosques, will, in all probability, just sit idly by, when enough of these FANATICAL ******* Wahhabi-type Muslims reach critical mass, to FIRST start by transforming communities governed by Sharia Law.....as the first step. You can use as an example, England and some of the Scandinavian Countries WHERE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE OFF LIMITS TO THE COUNTRY'S OWN CITIZENS BECAUSE OF THE FANATICAL MUSLIM POPULATION WITHIN THOSE COUNTRIES !!!!

And, guess what ?????

Our MONUMENTAL MARXIST FRAUD, RACIST, AND MUSLIM & ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT PROTECTOR, OBUMMER not only has CAIR (Council on American Islam Relations)....an OBVIOUS Islamofascist Front created by two of the Hamas Leaders ....masquerading around as "The Voice of Moderate Islam" approved by Obummer and his Administration to teach our Governmental employees and MILITARY.....and have Obami Salaami's Head of Homeland Security, Janet Incompetano HIRE these Muslim Apparatchiks into the highest levels in her Administration.......but Obummer is NOW on record for INITIATING talks with the Muslim Brotherhood....the MOST VIRULENT AVOWED ........ I say, AVOWED ENEMY OF AMERICA !!!

To show you how ingrained the ******* Obamarrhoidal Administration is with our AVOWED MUSLIM ENEMY: Hellary's assistant in Mid East Affairs, and close "friend" is none other than Weanie Weiner's Muslim wife Humus, Humass (or whatever her name is) who is a member of the Muslim Sisterhood......as well as her mommy, one of the Big Shots in the Muslim Sisterhood, the gender counterpart of the Muslim Brotherhood who are the AVOWED SWORN ENEMIES OF AMERICA !!!

So, when Herman Cain states that he is for communities wanting to ban Mosques ????

I say THOUSANDS of BRAVOS and HOWLING HURRAHS for our FIRST BRAVE & PERCEPTIVE POLITICIAN to recognize America's ENEMY WITHIN" !!!!

Herman Cain is not only perceptive in this threat to our Nation, Cain is a foremost and established problem solver and has the true grasp of understanding the problems that are facing America in all the other areas.

Herman Cain for President !!!!

So, you want to model ourselves after Islamic republics as far as forbidding other religions. Gotcha.

 

[bodecea]

Herman Cain Says U.S. Communities 'Have the Right' to Ban Mosques - FoxNews.com

Presidential candidate Herman Cain on Sunday defended his opposition to a new mosque in Tennessee, expressing concern about Shariah law and declaring Americans "have the right" to ban mosques in their communities.

Speaking on "Fox News Sunday," Cain said he came out against the Tennessee mosque after talking to members of that community. He said the site is "hallowed ground" to Murfreesboro residents and that they're concerned about "the intentions of trying to get Shariah law" -- the code governing conduct in Islamic societies.

"It's not just a mosque for religious purposes. This is what the people are objecting to," he said.

Asked whether any community should be able to prohibit a mosque, Cain said they should.

"They have the right to do that. That's not discriminating ... against that particular religion. That is an aspect of them building that mosque that doesn't get talked about," he said.

Cain comes off as a major moron here in my opinion. Thoughts USMB?

Sounds like Mr. Cain is a tad bit ignorant on the First Amendment.

that should appeal to the far right, don't you think?

 

[mattskramer]

If someone owns land and can afford to build a church, synagog, mosque, or whatever freakin' church building he wants with his own money and land, then he should be free to do so. Enough said.

 

[Cimerian]

I find it funny that many of you are using the Constitution to support that mosques could be built with no opposition. The Constitution regulates the Federal Government and does not prevent a state from establishing their own laws. A state or local community could legally support a specific religion. I believe however, that all 50 states have adopted amendments in their own constitutions that mirror the same language of the 1st amendment. A State could establish itself as a christian, pagan, islamic, or other religious state if they so wished and they would not be in violation of the Constitution. I do find it interesting that when I wrote this response christian and pagan without being capitalized was fine, however, islamic not being capitalized set off a spelling error. Interesting why is that religion treated differently on these forums?

 

[rightwinger]

I find it funny that many of you are using the Constitution to support that mosques could be built with no opposition. The Constitution regulates the Federal Government and does not prevent a state from establishing their own laws. A state or local community could legally support a specific religion. I believe however, that all 50 states have adopted amendments in their own constitutions that mirror the same language of the 1st amendment. A State could establish itself as a christian, pagan, islamic, or other religious state if they so wished and they would not be in violation of the Constitution. I do find it interesting that when I wrote this response christian and pagan without being capitalized was fine, however, islamic not being capitalized set off a spelling error. Interesting why is that religion treated differently on these forums?

Completely wrong......but it makes a nice story

 

[chikenwing]

i didnt get the .....racism was different in the 50's cause it was based on skin color...while his is based on religion or as he tried to spin it......possible terrorist

No he did a poor job of explaining himself,what he was trying to point out the is NON separation of church and state, that Islam demands,and the conflict caused by this stance.

The threat of radical Islam is real and shouldn't be ignored,nor should we trample on our freedoms for some thoughts of safety.

Chicken, you should rename as yourself as the proverbial ostrich....one who buries his head in the sand.

????? what how the hell do ya come up with this???

 

[Sunshine]

I find it funny that many of you are using the Constitution to support that mosques could be built with no opposition. The Constitution regulates the Federal Government and does not prevent a state from establishing their own laws. A state or local community could legally support a specific religion. I believe however, that all 50 states have adopted amendments in their own constitutions that mirror the same language of the 1st amendment. A State could establish itself as a christian, pagan, islamic, or other religious state if they so wished and they would not be in violation of the Constitution. I do find it interesting that when I wrote this response christian and pagan without being capitalized was fine, however, islamic not being capitalized set off a spelling error. Interesting why is that religion treated differently on these forums?

If that is the case, then perhaps you should recite for us how the states were required to abide by the Civil Rights Act when they tried to reject it and integrate their schools.

What you describe is a violation of Public Policy: http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Public+Policy

 

[Foxfyre]

I wish whomever wasi interviewing Herman Cain had pushed him on that point so that we could know one way or the other whether he meant it as EVERY news sources plus every message board and political blog seems to be taking it. If he did really mean it the way most are taking it, he is dead wrong and that will probably be a pretty big nail in his campaign coffin.

Muslims, despite their sociopolitical ideology, have as much right to free speech and, if anybody--Christian, Jew, Buddhist, et al--is allowed to build a place of worship, then so must the Muslims be allowed to build a place of worship. If the community wants no tax free religious properties in its borders, then it should be able to ban all however. It cannot single out only Muslim properties to ban. It cannot prevent ANY from the free exercise of their religion on their own private property, however, except when such exerise violates the civil law of the land. We surely don't want radical fundamentalist Christians stoning adulterers or Muslims stoning infidels anywhere despite such being written into their religious 'law'.

I also think any politician who proposed revoking the tax exemption for churches, synagogues, etc. would have a very short political career.