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[Mindful]

I wonder what the IQ of the average Holocaust denier is?

I would have to guess very, very, VERY low.

VERY low.

It depends, some Holocaust deniers are quite smart, and have an agenda. They know that if they quote a few manufactured quotes that people who want to believe them, will swallow their claims as gospel. It is a belief, manufactured by clever people designed to be consumed by idiots.

The Nazi ideology is still appealing to some 'volks'. However, the Nazi brand is tarnished forever to the world by their atrocities. If you remove the stigma of Nazi atrocities, you remove part of the roadblock to a rebirth of Nazi ideology. That is their agenda, removing the stain of the Holocaust makes Naziism legitimate once more.

The Germans are keeping the Holocaust alive.

Mea Culpa big time.

The German people aren't behind Holocaust Denial (although some of those behind it are in fact German citizens).

Nazi ideology isn't now, nor ever has been, exclusively German.

Did you ever wonder why it was so easy for the Germans to round up the Jews of every country they occupied, and even countries they didn't control? It was because, at least the Jew hatred part of their ideology, was quite popular with most Europeans. It was the one part of their message that even their enemies could embrace.

Even Britain, where British police in the occupied British Channel Islands willingly rounded up the few Jews in the Island and shipped them off to the death camps.

Yes but, that ideology and how far it was taken, could only have happened in Germany.

I disagree ... the German version of Nazism was a perfect storm of Jew Hatred, destructive economics, a culture of subservient populace, and a political climate looking for an answer.

But, it could have happened other places in Europe at the time.

The Germans are different to other people.

 

[SweetSue92]

I don't want to watch your propaganda movie.
Janusz Korczak - Wikipedia

I wonder what the IQ of the average Holocaust denier is?

I would have to guess very, very, VERY low.

VERY low.

It depends, some Holocaust deniers are quite smart, and have an agenda. They know that if they quote a few manufactured quotes that people who want to believe them, will swallow their claims as gospel. It is a belief, manufactured by clever people designed to be consumed by idiots.

The Nazi ideology is still appealing to some 'volks'. However, the Nazi brand is tarnished forever to the world by their atrocities. If you remove the stigma of Nazi atrocities, you remove part of the roadblock to a rebirth of Nazi ideology. That is their agenda, removing the stain of the Holocaust makes Naziism legitimate once more.

The Germans are keeping the Holocaust alive.

Mea Culpa big time.

Now I find this a fascinating response, truly. You are German, then or have some German ancestry?

Here is my take, for what it's worth--and probably not much. I had a very close German friend in the 80s and traveled to Germany, and yes, I know that's not much. I was quite young then, just graduated high school, but I had a fine reception and was kindly greeted by everyone.

I think the Germans have regressed since then and have become very pleased with their progress--too pleased. I think they have become self-smug and this reflects on how they view America. In fact.

I do not trust Germany. I do not trust them at all. I think there is a reason they have no concern nor affinity for us at this point and it's a very bad thing.

Sorry, Mindful, it's not personal...really. I'm not talking about individual Germans, who very widely. I'm talking about taking the temperature of the German people collectively.

I'm a British person living in Germany. Travel often to the United States.

I could count on one hand the number of German independent thinkers I've encountered.

At one stage , the Holocaust was rammed down our throats. Saturday nights on German television used to be Third Reich Night.

Incredibly dangerous--that lack of independent thinking. In some ways it shows that they have not learned the lessons they needed to learn.

In my humble opinion. And that backlash against all the Holocaust learning--they're taking it out on America, see. Because they perceive that we're not as "progressive" as they are now.

I'm sorry, but Germans do not do well when they "take things out on people". Especially when there's little independent thought going on. And that's just the way of it.

 

[Mindful]

I wonder what the IQ of the average Holocaust denier is?

I would have to guess very, very, VERY low.

VERY low.

It depends, some Holocaust deniers are quite smart, and have an agenda. They know that if they quote a few manufactured quotes that people who want to believe them, will swallow their claims as gospel. It is a belief, manufactured by clever people designed to be consumed by idiots.

The Nazi ideology is still appealing to some 'volks'. However, the Nazi brand is tarnished forever to the world by their atrocities. If you remove the stigma of Nazi atrocities, you remove part of the roadblock to a rebirth of Nazi ideology. That is their agenda, removing the stain of the Holocaust makes Naziism legitimate once more.

The Germans are keeping the Holocaust alive.

Mea Culpa big time.

Now I find this a fascinating response, truly. You are German, then or have some German ancestry?

Here is my take, for what it's worth--and probably not much. I had a very close German friend in the 80s and traveled to Germany, and yes, I know that's not much. I was quite young then, just graduated high school, but I had a fine reception and was kindly greeted by everyone.

I think the Germans have regressed since then and have become very pleased with their progress--too pleased. I think they have become self-smug and this reflects on how they view America. In fact.

I do not trust Germany. I do not trust them at all. I think there is a reason they have no concern nor affinity for us at this point and it's a very bad thing.

Sorry, Mindful, it's not personal...really. I'm not talking about individual Germans, who very widely. I'm talking about taking the temperature of the German people collectively.

I'm a British person living in Germany. Travel often to the United States.

I could count on one hand the number of German independent thinkers I've encountered.

At one stage , the Holocaust was rammed down our throats. Saturday nights on German television used to be Third Reich Night.

Incredibly dangerous--that lack of independent thinking. In some ways it shows that they have not learned the lessons they needed to learn.

In my humble opinion. And that backlash against all the Holocaust learning--they're taking it out on America, see. Because they perceive that we're not as "progressive" as they are now.

I'm sorry, but Germans do not do well when they "take things out on people". Especially when there's little independent thought going on. And that's just the way of it.

They are not playing fair over Brexit. Treating Britain like a vassal state. Like they do Greece and Italy.

 

[SweetSue92]

It depends, some Holocaust deniers are quite smart, and have an agenda. They know that if they quote a few manufactured quotes that people who want to believe them, will swallow their claims as gospel. It is a belief, manufactured by clever people designed to be consumed by idiots.

The Nazi ideology is still appealing to some 'volks'. However, the Nazi brand is tarnished forever to the world by their atrocities. If you remove the stigma of Nazi atrocities, you remove part of the roadblock to a rebirth of Nazi ideology. That is their agenda, removing the stain of the Holocaust makes Naziism legitimate once more.

The Germans are keeping the Holocaust alive.

Mea Culpa big time.

Now I find this a fascinating response, truly. You are German, then or have some German ancestry?

Here is my take, for what it's worth--and probably not much. I had a very close German friend in the 80s and traveled to Germany, and yes, I know that's not much. I was quite young then, just graduated high school, but I had a fine reception and was kindly greeted by everyone.

I think the Germans have regressed since then and have become very pleased with their progress--too pleased. I think they have become self-smug and this reflects on how they view America. In fact.

I do not trust Germany. I do not trust them at all. I think there is a reason they have no concern nor affinity for us at this point and it's a very bad thing.

Sorry, Mindful, it's not personal...really. I'm not talking about individual Germans, who very widely. I'm talking about taking the temperature of the German people collectively.

I'm a British person living in Germany. Travel often to the United States.

I could count on one hand the number of German independent thinkers I've encountered.

At one stage , the Holocaust was rammed down our throats. Saturday nights on German television used to be Third Reich Night.

Incredibly dangerous--that lack of independent thinking. In some ways it shows that they have not learned the lessons they needed to learn.

In my humble opinion. And that backlash against all the Holocaust learning--they're taking it out on America, see. Because they perceive that we're not as "progressive" as they are now.

I'm sorry, but Germans do not do well when they "take things out on people". Especially when there's little independent thought going on. And that's just the way of it.

They are not playing fair over Brexit. Treating Britain like a vassal state. Like they do Greece and Italy.

Well, you know, they're Germany. According to many Germans, that's all that needs to be said.

Again. When they recognize and dislike this impulse in themselves, they project it on America.

 

[Mindful]

The Germans are keeping the Holocaust alive.

Mea Culpa big time.

Now I find this a fascinating response, truly. You are German, then or have some German ancestry?

Here is my take, for what it's worth--and probably not much. I had a very close German friend in the 80s and traveled to Germany, and yes, I know that's not much. I was quite young then, just graduated high school, but I had a fine reception and was kindly greeted by everyone.

I think the Germans have regressed since then and have become very pleased with their progress--too pleased. I think they have become self-smug and this reflects on how they view America. In fact.

I do not trust Germany. I do not trust them at all. I think there is a reason they have no concern nor affinity for us at this point and it's a very bad thing.

Sorry, Mindful, it's not personal...really. I'm not talking about individual Germans, who very widely. I'm talking about taking the temperature of the German people collectively.

I'm a British person living in Germany. Travel often to the United States.

I could count on one hand the number of German independent thinkers I've encountered.

At one stage , the Holocaust was rammed down our throats. Saturday nights on German television used to be Third Reich Night.

Incredibly dangerous--that lack of independent thinking. In some ways it shows that they have not learned the lessons they needed to learn.

In my humble opinion. And that backlash against all the Holocaust learning--they're taking it out on America, see. Because they perceive that we're not as "progressive" as they are now.

I'm sorry, but Germans do not do well when they "take things out on people". Especially when there's little independent thought going on. And that's just the way of it.

They are not playing fair over Brexit. Treating Britain like a vassal state. Like they do Greece and Italy.

Well, you know, they're Germany. According to many Germans, that's all that needs to be said.

Again. When they recognize and dislike this impulse in themselves, they project it on America.

Yet there are so many German immigrants in America.

None of them wants to return.

 

[Mindful]

The Germans are keeping the Holocaust alive.

Mea Culpa big time.

Now I find this a fascinating response, truly. You are German, then or have some German ancestry?

Here is my take, for what it's worth--and probably not much. I had a very close German friend in the 80s and traveled to Germany, and yes, I know that's not much. I was quite young then, just graduated high school, but I had a fine reception and was kindly greeted by everyone.

I think the Germans have regressed since then and have become very pleased with their progress--too pleased. I think they have become self-smug and this reflects on how they view America. In fact.

I do not trust Germany. I do not trust them at all. I think there is a reason they have no concern nor affinity for us at this point and it's a very bad thing.

Sorry, Mindful, it's not personal...really. I'm not talking about individual Germans, who very widely. I'm talking about taking the temperature of the German people collectively.

I'm a British person living in Germany. Travel often to the United States.

I could count on one hand the number of German independent thinkers I've encountered.

At one stage , the Holocaust was rammed down our throats. Saturday nights on German television used to be Third Reich Night.

Incredibly dangerous--that lack of independent thinking. In some ways it shows that they have not learned the lessons they needed to learn.

In my humble opinion. And that backlash against all the Holocaust learning--they're taking it out on America, see. Because they perceive that we're not as "progressive" as they are now.

I'm sorry, but Germans do not do well when they "take things out on people". Especially when there's little independent thought going on. And that's just the way of it.

They are not playing fair over Brexit. Treating Britain like a vassal state. Like they do Greece and Italy.

Well, you know, they're Germany. According to many Germans, that's all that needs to be said.

Again. When they recognize and dislike this impulse in themselves, they project it on America.

Germany is taking over America. Surreptitiously?

Aldi and Lidl making big in-roads. Trader Joe. T-online. Lufthansa job adverts.

BMW's and Mercedes everywhere. At least the area where I live whilst there. Never see any French cars.

 

[SweetSue92]

Now I find this a fascinating response, truly. You are German, then or have some German ancestry?

Here is my take, for what it's worth--and probably not much. I had a very close German friend in the 80s and traveled to Germany, and yes, I know that's not much. I was quite young then, just graduated high school, but I had a fine reception and was kindly greeted by everyone.

I think the Germans have regressed since then and have become very pleased with their progress--too pleased. I think they have become self-smug and this reflects on how they view America. In fact.

I do not trust Germany. I do not trust them at all. I think there is a reason they have no concern nor affinity for us at this point and it's a very bad thing.

Sorry, Mindful, it's not personal...really. I'm not talking about individual Germans, who very widely. I'm talking about taking the temperature of the German people collectively.

I'm a British person living in Germany. Travel often to the United States.

I could count on one hand the number of German independent thinkers I've encountered.

At one stage , the Holocaust was rammed down our throats. Saturday nights on German television used to be Third Reich Night.

Incredibly dangerous--that lack of independent thinking. In some ways it shows that they have not learned the lessons they needed to learn.

In my humble opinion. And that backlash against all the Holocaust learning--they're taking it out on America, see. Because they perceive that we're not as "progressive" as they are now.

I'm sorry, but Germans do not do well when they "take things out on people". Especially when there's little independent thought going on. And that's just the way of it.

They are not playing fair over Brexit. Treating Britain like a vassal state. Like they do Greece and Italy.

Well, you know, they're Germany. According to many Germans, that's all that needs to be said.

Again. When they recognize and dislike this impulse in themselves, they project it on America.

Germany is taking over America. Surreptitiously?

Aldi and Lidl making big in-roads. Trader Joe. T-online. Lufthansa job adverts.

BMW's and Mercedes everywhere. At least the area where I live whilst there. Never see any French cars.

.........the French make cars?????

 

[Mindful]

I'm a British person living in Germany. Travel often to the United States.

I could count on one hand the number of German independent thinkers I've encountered.

At one stage , the Holocaust was rammed down our throats. Saturday nights on German television used to be Third Reich Night.

Incredibly dangerous--that lack of independent thinking. In some ways it shows that they have not learned the lessons they needed to learn.

In my humble opinion. And that backlash against all the Holocaust learning--they're taking it out on America, see. Because they perceive that we're not as "progressive" as they are now.

I'm sorry, but Germans do not do well when they "take things out on people". Especially when there's little independent thought going on. And that's just the way of it.

They are not playing fair over Brexit. Treating Britain like a vassal state. Like they do Greece and Italy.

Well, you know, they're Germany. According to many Germans, that's all that needs to be said.

Again. When they recognize and dislike this impulse in themselves, they project it on America.

Germany is taking over America. Surreptitiously?

Aldi and Lidl making big in-roads. Trader Joe. T-online. Lufthansa job adverts.

BMW's and Mercedes everywhere. At least the area where I live whilst there. Never see any French cars.

.........the French make cars?????

I love them.

 

[fncceo]

I'm a British person living in Germany. Travel often to the United States.

I could count on one hand the number of German independent thinkers I've encountered.

At one stage , the Holocaust was rammed down our throats. Saturday nights on German television used to be Third Reich Night.

Incredibly dangerous--that lack of independent thinking. In some ways it shows that they have not learned the lessons they needed to learn.

In my humble opinion. And that backlash against all the Holocaust learning--they're taking it out on America, see. Because they perceive that we're not as "progressive" as they are now.

I'm sorry, but Germans do not do well when they "take things out on people". Especially when there's little independent thought going on. And that's just the way of it.

They are not playing fair over Brexit. Treating Britain like a vassal state. Like they do Greece and Italy.

Well, you know, they're Germany. According to many Germans, that's all that needs to be said.

Again. When they recognize and dislike this impulse in themselves, they project it on America.

Germany is taking over America. Surreptitiously?

Aldi and Lidl making big in-roads. Trader Joe. T-online. Lufthansa job adverts.

BMW's and Mercedes everywhere. At least the area where I live whilst there. Never see any French cars.

.........the French make cars?????

Unfortunately, yes ...

 

[Penelope]

I wonder what the IQ of the average Holocaust denier is?

I would have to guess very, very, VERY low.

VERY low.

It depends, some Holocaust deniers are quite smart, and have an agenda. They know that if they quote a few manufactured quotes that people who want to believe them, will swallow their claims as gospel. It is a belief, manufactured by clever people designed to be consumed by idiots.

The Nazi ideology is still appealing to some 'volks'. However, the Nazi brand is tarnished forever to the world by their atrocities. If you remove the stigma of Nazi atrocities, you remove part of the roadblock to a rebirth of Nazi ideology. That is their agenda, removing the stain of the Holocaust makes Naziism legitimate once more.

The Germans are keeping the Holocaust alive.

Mea Culpa big time.

Now I find this a fascinating response, truly. You are German, then or have some German ancestry?

Here is my take, for what it's worth--and probably not much. I had a very close German friend in the 80s and traveled to Germany, and yes, I know that's not much. I was quite young then, just graduated high school, but I had a fine reception and was kindly greeted by everyone.

I think the Germans have regressed since then and have become very pleased with their progress--too pleased. I think they have become self-smug and this reflects on how they view America. In fact.

I do not trust Germany. I do not trust them at all. I think there is a reason they have no concern nor affinity for us at this point and it's a very bad thing.

Sorry, Mindful, it's not personal...really. I'm not talking about individual Germans, who very widely. I'm talking about taking the temperature of the German people collectively.

I'm a British person living in Germany. Travel often to the United States.

I could count on one hand the number of German independent thinkers I've encountered.

At one stage , the Holocaust was rammed down our throats. Saturday nights on German television used to be Third Reich Night.

Incredibly dangerous--that lack of independent thinking. In some ways it shows that they have not learned the lessons they needed to learn.

In my humble opinion. And that backlash against all the Holocaust learning--they're taking it out on America, see. Because they perceive that we're not as "progressive" as they are now.

I'm sorry, but Germans do not do well when they "take things out on people". Especially when there's little independent thought going on. And that's just the way of it.

size of approximately 44 million in 2016, German Americans are the largest of the ancestry groups reported by the US Census Bureau in its American Community Survey.[1] The group accounts for about one third of the total ethnic German population in the world.[6][7][8]

German Americans - Wikipedia
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I am sorry for budding in here, but I had to. Use to be larger and Irish use to be second.

 

[Penelope]

It depends, some Holocaust deniers are quite smart, and have an agenda. They know that if they quote a few manufactured quotes that people who want to believe them, will swallow their claims as gospel. It is a belief, manufactured by clever people designed to be consumed by idiots.

The Nazi ideology is still appealing to some 'volks'. However, the Nazi brand is tarnished forever to the world by their atrocities. If you remove the stigma of Nazi atrocities, you remove part of the roadblock to a rebirth of Nazi ideology. That is their agenda, removing the stain of the Holocaust makes Naziism legitimate once more.

The Germans are keeping the Holocaust alive.

Mea Culpa big time.

Now I find this a fascinating response, truly. You are German, then or have some German ancestry?

Here is my take, for what it's worth--and probably not much. I had a very close German friend in the 80s and traveled to Germany, and yes, I know that's not much. I was quite young then, just graduated high school, but I had a fine reception and was kindly greeted by everyone.

I think the Germans have regressed since then and have become very pleased with their progress--too pleased. I think they have become self-smug and this reflects on how they view America. In fact.

I do not trust Germany. I do not trust them at all. I think there is a reason they have no concern nor affinity for us at this point and it's a very bad thing.

Sorry, Mindful, it's not personal...really. I'm not talking about individual Germans, who very widely. I'm talking about taking the temperature of the German people collectively.

I'm a British person living in Germany. Travel often to the United States.

I could count on one hand the number of German independent thinkers I've encountered.

At one stage , the Holocaust was rammed down our throats. Saturday nights on German television used to be Third Reich Night.

Incredibly dangerous--that lack of independent thinking. In some ways it shows that they have not learned the lessons they needed to learn.

In my humble opinion. And that backlash against all the Holocaust learning--they're taking it out on America, see. Because they perceive that we're not as "progressive" as they are now.

I'm sorry, but Germans do not do well when they "take things out on people". Especially when there's little independent thought going on. And that's just the way of it.

They are not playing fair over Brexit. Treating Britain like a vassal state. Like they do Greece and Italy.

Sorry for budding in here, but seems to me the UK started the divorce.

 

[Linkiloo]

Sorry man but I have to disagree with that I had an uncle (Silver and bronze star winner) who was there when they went in and he said the stories did not even come close to the reality grown battle hardened soldiers wept at the sight of children, with their mothers all dead in mass graves bodies stacked like sticks of wood and the smell of rotting flesh above any battlefield, anyway forget the lies of haulocast deniers. They were DEATH CAMPS.

I'm not trying to say that large numbers of people died in the camps by the end of the war. And yes, the living conditions of the camp became terrible as the war progressed. I'm just saying that the camps were never intended to be death camps. ...

I guess the gas chambers built and the gas deivered, weren't intended to kill.

Can you read the original German sources? I highly recommend it.

 

[Mindful]

Incredibly dangerous--that lack of independent thinking. In some ways it shows that they have not learned the lessons they needed to learn.

In my humble opinion. And that backlash against all the Holocaust learning--they're taking it out on America, see. Because they perceive that we're not as "progressive" as they are now.

I'm sorry, but Germans do not do well when they "take things out on people". Especially when there's little independent thought going on. And that's just the way of it.

They are not playing fair over Brexit. Treating Britain like a vassal state. Like they do Greece and Italy.

Well, you know, they're Germany. According to many Germans, that's all that needs to be said.

Again. When they recognize and dislike this impulse in themselves, they project it on America.

Germany is taking over America. Surreptitiously?

Aldi and Lidl making big in-roads. Trader Joe. T-online. Lufthansa job adverts.

BMW's and Mercedes everywhere. At least the area where I live whilst there. Never see any French cars.

.........the French make cars?????

Unfortunately, yes ...

Love those Yves Montand cars.

Actually saw one in a most unlikely place in the US:

Parked on a driveway in a dubious area of Manassas, VA.

 

[Linkiloo]

It depends, some Holocaust deniers are quite smart, and have an agenda. They know that if they quote a few manufactured quotes that people who want to believe them, will swallow their claims as gospel. It is a belief, manufactured by clever people designed to be consumed by idiots.

The Nazi ideology is still appealing to some 'volks'. However, the Nazi brand is tarnished forever to the world by their atrocities. If you remove the stigma of Nazi atrocities, you remove part of the roadblock to a rebirth of Nazi ideology. That is their agenda, removing the stain of the Holocaust makes Naziism legitimate once more.

The Germans are keeping the Holocaust alive.

Mea Culpa big time.

Now I find this a fascinating response, truly. You are German, then or have some German ancestry?

Here is my take, for what it's worth--and probably not much. I had a very close German friend in the 80s and traveled to Germany, and yes, I know that's not much. I was quite young then, just graduated high school, but I had a fine reception and was kindly greeted by everyone.

I think the Germans have regressed since then and have become very pleased with their progress--too pleased. I think they have become self-smug and this reflects on how they view America. In fact.

I do not trust Germany. I do not trust them at all. I think there is a reason they have no concern nor affinity for us at this point and it's a very bad thing.

Sorry, Mindful, it's not personal...really. I'm not talking about individual Germans, who very widely. I'm talking about taking the temperature of the German people collectively.

I'm a British person living in Germany. Travel often to the United States.

I could count on one hand the number of German independent thinkers I've encountered.

At one stage , the Holocaust was rammed down our throats. Saturday nights on German television used to be Third Reich Night.

Incredibly dangerous--that lack of independent thinking. In some ways it shows that they have not learned the lessons they needed to learn.

In my humble opinion. And that backlash against all the Holocaust learning--they're taking it out on America, see. Because they perceive that we're not as "progressive" as they are now.

I'm sorry, but Germans do not do well when they "take things out on people". Especially when there's little independent thought going on. And that's just the way of it.

They are not playing fair over Brexit. Treating Britain like a vassal state. Like they do Greece and Italy.

It is very fair to exclude England without the benefits members enjoy. It is the most logical thing in the world.

 

[Mindful]

The Germans are keeping the Holocaust alive.

Mea Culpa big time.

Now I find this a fascinating response, truly. You are German, then or have some German ancestry?

Here is my take, for what it's worth--and probably not much. I had a very close German friend in the 80s and traveled to Germany, and yes, I know that's not much. I was quite young then, just graduated high school, but I had a fine reception and was kindly greeted by everyone.

I think the Germans have regressed since then and have become very pleased with their progress--too pleased. I think they have become self-smug and this reflects on how they view America. In fact.

I do not trust Germany. I do not trust them at all. I think there is a reason they have no concern nor affinity for us at this point and it's a very bad thing.

Sorry, Mindful, it's not personal...really. I'm not talking about individual Germans, who very widely. I'm talking about taking the temperature of the German people collectively.

I'm a British person living in Germany. Travel often to the United States.

I could count on one hand the number of German independent thinkers I've encountered.

At one stage , the Holocaust was rammed down our throats. Saturday nights on German television used to be Third Reich Night.

Incredibly dangerous--that lack of independent thinking. In some ways it shows that they have not learned the lessons they needed to learn.

In my humble opinion. And that backlash against all the Holocaust learning--they're taking it out on America, see. Because they perceive that we're not as "progressive" as they are now.

I'm sorry, but Germans do not do well when they "take things out on people". Especially when there's little independent thought going on. And that's just the way of it.

They are not playing fair over Brexit. Treating Britain like a vassal state. Like they do Greece and Italy.

Sorry for budding in here, but seems to me the UK started the divorce.

Please feel free to butt in.

Yes, it started the divorce proceedings. So what?

 

[Mindful]

The Germans are keeping the Holocaust alive.

Mea Culpa big time.

Now I find this a fascinating response, truly. You are German, then or have some German ancestry?

Here is my take, for what it's worth--and probably not much. I had a very close German friend in the 80s and traveled to Germany, and yes, I know that's not much. I was quite young then, just graduated high school, but I had a fine reception and was kindly greeted by everyone.

I think the Germans have regressed since then and have become very pleased with their progress--too pleased. I think they have become self-smug and this reflects on how they view America. In fact.

I do not trust Germany. I do not trust them at all. I think there is a reason they have no concern nor affinity for us at this point and it's a very bad thing.

Sorry, Mindful, it's not personal...really. I'm not talking about individual Germans, who very widely. I'm talking about taking the temperature of the German people collectively.

I'm a British person living in Germany. Travel often to the United States.

I could count on one hand the number of German independent thinkers I've encountered.

At one stage , the Holocaust was rammed down our throats. Saturday nights on German television used to be Third Reich Night.

Incredibly dangerous--that lack of independent thinking. In some ways it shows that they have not learned the lessons they needed to learn.

In my humble opinion. And that backlash against all the Holocaust learning--they're taking it out on America, see. Because they perceive that we're not as "progressive" as they are now.

I'm sorry, but Germans do not do well when they "take things out on people". Especially when there's little independent thought going on. And that's just the way of it.

They are not playing fair over Brexit. Treating Britain like a vassal state. Like they do Greece and Italy.

It is very fair to exclude England without the benefits members enjoy. It is the most logical thing in the world.

In simple terms, it's like this.

You can keep the CD's, the books; even the dog.

But l decide how often you can have sex.

 

[Penelope]

Now I find this a fascinating response, truly. You are German, then or have some German ancestry?

Here is my take, for what it's worth--and probably not much. I had a very close German friend in the 80s and traveled to Germany, and yes, I know that's not much. I was quite young then, just graduated high school, but I had a fine reception and was kindly greeted by everyone.

I think the Germans have regressed since then and have become very pleased with their progress--too pleased. I think they have become self-smug and this reflects on how they view America. In fact.

I do not trust Germany. I do not trust them at all. I think there is a reason they have no concern nor affinity for us at this point and it's a very bad thing.

Sorry, Mindful, it's not personal...really. I'm not talking about individual Germans, who very widely. I'm talking about taking the temperature of the German people collectively.

I'm a British person living in Germany. Travel often to the United States.

I could count on one hand the number of German independent thinkers I've encountered.

At one stage , the Holocaust was rammed down our throats. Saturday nights on German television used to be Third Reich Night.

Incredibly dangerous--that lack of independent thinking. In some ways it shows that they have not learned the lessons they needed to learn.

In my humble opinion. And that backlash against all the Holocaust learning--they're taking it out on America, see. Because they perceive that we're not as "progressive" as they are now.

I'm sorry, but Germans do not do well when they "take things out on people". Especially when there's little independent thought going on. And that's just the way of it.

They are not playing fair over Brexit. Treating Britain like a vassal state. Like they do Greece and Italy.

Sorry for budding in here, but seems to me the UK started the divorce.

Please feel free to butt in.

Yes, it started the divorce proceedings. So what?

Go it alone. Leave the EU completely. Then the US can make a trade deal with you alone, imagine your power. What is there 65 million of you, and the EU had what 550 million. Trade power was in the EU, not alone.

 

[Mindful]

I'm a British person living in Germany. Travel often to the United States.

I could count on one hand the number of German independent thinkers I've encountered.

At one stage , the Holocaust was rammed down our throats. Saturday nights on German television used to be Third Reich Night.

Incredibly dangerous--that lack of independent thinking. In some ways it shows that they have not learned the lessons they needed to learn.

In my humble opinion. And that backlash against all the Holocaust learning--they're taking it out on America, see. Because they perceive that we're not as "progressive" as they are now.

I'm sorry, but Germans do not do well when they "take things out on people". Especially when there's little independent thought going on. And that's just the way of it.

They are not playing fair over Brexit. Treating Britain like a vassal state. Like they do Greece and Italy.

Sorry for budding in here, but seems to me the UK started the divorce.

Please feel free to butt in.

Yes, it started the divorce proceedings. So what?

Go it alone. Leave the EU completely. Then the US can make a trade deal with you alone, imagine your power. What is there 65 million of you, and the EU had what 550 million. Trade power was in the EU, not alone.

That's the general idea.

Barack Obama had other ideas.

 

[Penelope]

Back to the topic:

In other news Lieberman quits.

Lieberman resigns from defense minister post

 

[Penelope]

Incredibly dangerous--that lack of independent thinking. In some ways it shows that they have not learned the lessons they needed to learn.

In my humble opinion. And that backlash against all the Holocaust learning--they're taking it out on America, see. Because they perceive that we're not as "progressive" as they are now.

I'm sorry, but Germans do not do well when they "take things out on people". Especially when there's little independent thought going on. And that's just the way of it.

They are not playing fair over Brexit. Treating Britain like a vassal state. Like they do Greece and Italy.

Sorry for budding in here, but seems to me the UK started the divorce.

Please feel free to butt in.

Yes, it started the divorce proceedings. So what?

Go it alone. Leave the EU completely. Then the US can make a trade deal with you alone, imagine your power. What is there 65 million of you, and the EU had what 550 million. Trade power was in the EU, not alone.

That's the general idea.

Barack Obama had other ideas.

What other ideas did he have??