Help Wanted: Ref Charlie Kirk Shooting Questions

But, no one has taken a shot a her.

Mostly likely because everyone knows only a cross and a stake through the heart is the only effective method.
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Well, short of dealing appropriately with the undead, we are not murderers.

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I'm perplexed that it didn't blow straight through Charlie's neck, like we see in the first shot that went through JFK's neck.

That is the question. Unfortunately, all the video in the world of 30-06s blowing through skulls and other bones does us no good.

What we need to see is about a dozen shots fired into the throat area.
  • Undoubtedly, there was a lot of "give" to Charlie, and the muzzle energy simply pushed his torso back absorbing some of the energy.
  • Apparently the bullet entered alongside the trachea with hard tissue on one side, soft tissue on the other.
  • X-ray evidence shows the bullet ended up near the C4 of the spine and likely hit it.
The question is, was the bullet deflected and where did it go to end up back near the spine, apparently stopping it.
 
But, no one has taken a shot a her.

Mostly likely because everyone knows only a cross and a stake through the heart is the only effective method.
For a normal person, I would consider that to be just an absurd remark indicating your distaste for Pelosi. However, being a cult member, such as yourself, you probably think it is a true and accurate remark. That's why people call you crazy.
 
For a normal person, I would consider that to be just an absurd remark indicating your distaste for Pelosi. However, being a cult member, such as yourself, you probably think it is a true and accurate remark. That's why people call you crazy.

I am just taking advice from Professor Van Helsing.
 
I don't dispute that the Mauser was the murder weapon. (look at the expansion.)

I'm perplexed that it didn't blow straight through Charlie's neck, like we see in the first shot that went through JFK's neck.
"Look at the expansion"? Is that supposed to be a relevant ballistic issue? It's clear that amateur ballistic "experts" ain't got a freaking clue.
 
"Look at the expansion"? Is that supposed to be a relevant ballistic issue? It's clear that amateur ballistic "experts" ain't got a freaking clue.

It isn't even close, and you are, like Charlie Kirk, NOTICING TOO MUCH TRUTH these three don't want you to notice...


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No, no, the bullet entrance was not through the shirt but higher up on the neck right alongside the voice-box of the throat.
toobfreak, If you could expound on this, that would be helpful. I have watched every video I can find in slow motion, zoomed in, etc. My eyes tell me that the round caught his shirt and necklace.

I know you have a very keen attention to detail. (I believe I do, also). So, it's strange for us to be so far apart on this.

In my view, a straight shot to the neck without catching the shirt and/ or necklace would not explain the violent and rapid movement of the shirt flying up.

For sure, it would be an easy enough shot to test on a range, if someone has the means and time to do it.

As I posted earlier, I am starting to think these technical details won't matter in the end. . . It's still a good brain challenge. For me, it is, anyway.
 
"Look at the expansion"? Is that supposed to be a relevant ballistic issue? It's clear that amateur ballistic "experts" ain't got a freaking clue.
So, school me whitehall

School us all.

I've already shared my observations and questions. Let's see what you have.
 
That is the question. Unfortunately, all the video in the world of 30-06s blowing through skulls and other bones does us no good.

What we need to see is about a dozen shots fired into the throat area.
  • Undoubtedly, there was a lot of "give" to Charlie, and the muzzle energy simply pushed his torso back absorbing some of the energy.
  • Apparently the bullet entered alongside the trachea with hard tissue on one side, soft tissue on the other.
  • X-ray evidence shows the bullet ended up near the C4 of the spine and likely hit it.
The question is, was the bullet deflected and where did it go to end up back near the spine, apparently stopping it.
I have searched for but cannot find the X-ray evidence you are referring to.

Where can I find it?

The closest I can get is hearsay by those who claim to have seen it.
 
Robinson is a patsy. There was another shooter hired by Donald Trump.

This accomplished at least two things for Trump:

- It distracted people from the Epstein files story.
-It gave Trump the extra support needed to go after his political enemies.

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Here's why the possibility of a ricochet may not matter or ever come into play.

"Yes, Tyler Robinson, the 22-year-old suspect charged with the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk on September 10, 2025, at Utah Valley University, has confessed multiple times in statements to family, friends, and online contacts shortly after the shooting. These admissions were detailed in court documents filed by Utah County prosecutors on September 16, 2025, as part of seven charges including aggravated murder, for which he faces the death penalty if convicted. He has not entered a formal plea in court and has remained silent during official proceedings, but the confessions form key evidence. Key Confessions:"

The ballistic results are not in yet....the Lord only knows why it is taking so long?

But once the bullet, (which miraculously did not exit Charlie), matches up to Tyler's grandpa's rifle, it's all over but the shouting! Tyler did it, end of story!

If it doesn't match up to Grandpa's gun, then...."Houston, we got a problem!". :eek:
 
The ballistic results are not in yet....the Lord only knows why it is taking so long?

But once the bullet, (which miraculously did not exit Charlie), matches up to Tyler's grandpa's rifle, it's all over but the shouting! Tyler did it, end of story!

If it doesn't match up to Grandpa's gun, then...."Houston, we got a problem!". :eek:
Who here is claiming it wasn't Robinson using his grandpa's 30-06?
 
toobfreak, If you could expound on this, that would be helpful. I have watched every video I can find in slow motion, zoomed in, etc. My eyes tell me that the round caught his shirt and necklace.

No. I have stills of his shooting spaced about 1/10th second apart. About a week after his shooting, some details of Kirk's autopsy were leaked and I got some of the details along with an alleged x-ray.

I've tried hard not to languish over the morbid details of his shooting, but I guess there's no avoiding talking about it here some more now.

Here is a picture of the first appearance of blood coming to the surface of the entrance wound in his throat.

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The bullet penetrated the thyroid, through the sternocleidomastoid muscle, severed the carotid damaging the jugular coming to rest next to the C4 of the spine. What is unclear is whether the bullet was somehow deflected within the body to end up at the spine or whether somehow it was stopped by and at the spine itself--- only the autopsy physician knows for sure.

Some have made issue of the shirt, whether Charlie was wearing any protection. It actually does look like Charlie was wearing something, rather small and light under his shirt, and the pad and shirt did jump upwards with the shot, but not because of any bullet hitting them but simply because of Kirk flinching when hit.
 
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I have searched for but cannot find the X-ray evidence you are referring to.
Where can I find it?

I have a copy of it, but it is just an xray showing a bullet. No way to know if it is really Charlie or not.
 
No. I have stills of his shooting spaced about 1/10th second apart. About a week after his shooting, some details of Kirk's autopsy were leaked and I got some of the details along with an alleged x-ray.

I've tried hard not to languish over the morbid details of his shooting, but I guess there's no avoiding talking about it here some more now.

Here is a picture of the first appearance of blood coming to the surface of the entrance wound in his throat.

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The bullet penetrated the thyroid, through the sternocleidomastoid muscle, severed the carotid damaging the jugular coming to rest next to the C4 of the spine. What is unclear is whether the bullet was somehow deflected within the body to end up at the spine or whether somehow it was stopped by and at the spine itself--- only the autopsy physician knows for sure.

Some have made issue of the shirt, whether Charlie was wearing any protection. It actually does look like Charlie was wearing something, rather small and light under his shirt, and the pad and shirt did jump upwards with the shot, but not because of any bullet hitting them but simply because of Kirk flinching when hit.
I'm trying to track down the original / raw video of the angle that convinces me that the bullet stuck his shirt first.

It's the same video (ironically) that some have interpreted as Charlie being shot by someone under the table he was sitting behind. (they claim the bullet can be seen between his knees - however, the sequence shows the opposite is true)

Anyway, your response is about what I thought you might have/ say. Thanks for confirming.
 
I'm trying to track down the original / raw video of the angle that convinces me that the bullet stuck his shirt first.
Save your efforts, it didn't. And had it done so, it would have left no visible mark in the shirt until the wound underneath started bleeding into it, and it didn't. What you saw was likely just a defect or artifact in the video, or worse, someone deliberately altering it.

It's the same video (ironically) that some have interpreted as Charlie being shot by someone under the table he was sitting behind. (they claim the bullet can be seen between his knees - however, the sequence shows the opposite is true)
That did not happen, and is just plain silly.

Anyway, your response is about what I thought you might have/ say. Thanks for confirming.
Believe me, time was when I used to do a lot of forensic image analysis. And the sequence of time between the impact of the bullet and his starting to visibly bleed out (about a half second) gives some indication of the bullet trajectory via the movements of Kirk's body as it absorbed the impact.
 
I'm trying to track down the original / raw video of the angle that convinces me that the bullet stuck his shirt first.

It's the same video (ironically) that some have interpreted as Charlie being shot by someone under the table he was sitting behind. (they claim the bullet can be seen between his knees
- however, the sequence shows the opposite is true)

Anyway, your response is about what I thought you might have/ say. Thanks for confirming.
Laughable!
 
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