Hell yes! It’s happening. China fears manufacturing exodus

Another terrific episode of How the Worm Turns :)

China is providing help and supplies to us right now, so the President is going to play up to them.

Yeah, I noticed that Donnie was blaming his own incompetency more now on the media, WHO and Dem governors and mayors than on China.


Trump was not incompetent in this problem. The incompetent ones were the Chinese. They didn't provide warning or protection from this thing when they learned it got out of the lab. They stopped all domestic flights from Wuhan, and allowed international travel. They are responsible for this problem--nobody else.

We're gonna have to disagree on that. Donald isn't responsible for the virus. He IS responsible for a miserable response to the virus.

I don't see how. He took action the day the WHO categorized it as a problem. Hell, the leftists new hero, Dr. Fuci said as late as January 21st that it wasn't going to be a problem for the US. And remember the Democrats like Piglosi who were encouraging people to ignore the virus because it's not going to be a problem.

I don't know why you single out Trump.......wait a minute, I take that back. I do know why you single him out.

Oh, you must be talking about the toothless China travel ban in which 40,000 people got on planes and came here from China shortly after.
Okee :rolleyes:
 
Can we get ONE liberal to admit it’s a good thing if we aren’t as reliant on China manufacturing?

How about the flip side? Can we get liberals in here to tell us why it’s bad for China to lose some manufacturing.

You know the left are hypocrites. On one hand, they ***** about employee pay in this country, on the other hand, they support virtual open borders for immigrants to come here and take our jobs and lower pay for Americans.

There is only one true way to lessen our reliance on China manufacturing, and that is for Americans to buy American products. Tariffs made our products more competitive to China, and look who was complaining about that.

Americans buying American campaigns have been past total failures.

You have Toyotas assembled in Texas and Chevrolets assembled in Mexico.

Which one is American?
Neither.

Chevy is Government Motors. Never buy another new GM product.

Toyota is Japanese but they hire American.
 
Can we get ONE liberal to admit it’s a good thing if we aren’t as reliant on China manufacturing?

How about the flip side? Can we get liberals in here to tell us why it’s bad for China to lose some manufacturing.

You know the left are hypocrites. On one hand, they ***** about employee pay in this country, on the other hand, they support virtual open borders for immigrants to come here and take our jobs and lower pay for Americans.

There is only one true way to lessen our reliance on China manufacturing, and that is for Americans to buy American products. Tariffs made our products more competitive to China, and look who was complaining about that.

Americans buying American campaigns have been past total failures.

You have Toyotas assembled in Texas and Chevrolets assembled in Mexico.

Which one is American?

From a parts perspective, a difficult question.
From a labor perspective, an easy question.
 
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In Zhongnanhai, the area in central Beijing where leaders of the Chinese Communist Party and the state government have their offices, "there are now serious concerns over foreign companies withdrawing from China," a Chinese economic source said. "What has particularly been talked about is the clause in Japan's emergency economic package that encourages (and funds) the re-establishment of supply chains."


**** you China!

Let’s eat Sushi, NOT BATS!
Was gonna happen anyway. Workers were demanding higher wages and better conditions.

Most of the manufacturing is getting ready to head for Africa or south America.
Yep that's exactly what the wizard MBA nitwits do every stinking time. Piss away a ton of money to move, then train your future completion instead of biting the bullet once, automate your industry and keep it home and under your thumb and your control.
 
I'm trying very hard to find face masks on amazon but all are made in China. Oh hell no.
 
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Can we get ONE liberal to admit it’s a good thing if we aren’t as reliant on China manufacturing?

How about the flip side? Can we get liberals in here to tell us why it’s bad for China to lose some manufacturing.

You know the left are hypocrites. On one hand, they ***** about employee pay in this country, on the other hand, they support virtual open borders for immigrants to come here and take our jobs and lower pay for Americans.

There is only one true way to lessen our reliance on China manufacturing, and that is for Americans to buy American products. Tariffs made our products more competitive to China, and look who was complaining about that.

Americans buying American campaigns have been past total failures.

You have Toyotas assembled in Texas and Chevrolets assembled in Mexico.

Which one is American?
Neither.

Chevy is Government Motors. Never buy another new GM product.

Toyota is Japanese but they hire American.
Gave up on GM and American made cars after getting stuck with a 1978 Pontiac Grad Prix. That car was a lemon and a piece of shit and I told the head of pontiac motor division that directly. It was really his piss poor attitude that convinced me to give up American makes and to never go back.
 
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In Zhongnanhai, the area in central Beijing where leaders of the Chinese Communist Party and the state government have their offices, "there are now serious concerns over foreign companies withdrawing from China," a Chinese economic source said. "What has particularly been talked about is the clause in Japan's emergency economic package that encourages (and funds) the re-establishment of supply chains."


**** you China!

Let’s eat Sushi, NOT BATS!
They should be very afraid. It was foolish for the world, particularly the US to outsource majority of industrial production to the Communist Chinese in the first place. Maybe corona will be a wake up call., but kinda doubt it actually.
one can only hope....
 
Another terrific episode of How the Worm Turns :)

China is providing help and supplies to us right now, so the President is going to play up to them.

Yeah, I noticed that Donnie was blaming his own incompetency more now on the media, WHO and Dem governors and mayors than on China.


Trump was not incompetent in this problem. The incompetent ones were the Chinese. They didn't provide warning or protection from this thing when they learned it got out of the lab. They stopped all domestic flights from Wuhan, and allowed international travel. They are responsible for this problem--nobody else.

We're gonna have to disagree on that. Donald isn't responsible for the virus. He IS responsible for a miserable response to the virus.

I don't see how. He took action the day the WHO categorized it as a problem. Hell, the leftists new hero, Dr. Fuci said as late as January 21st that it wasn't going to be a problem for the US. And remember the Democrats like Piglosi who were encouraging people to ignore the virus because it's not going to be a problem.

I don't know why you single out Trump.......wait a minute, I take that back. I do know why you single him out.

Oh, you must be talking about the toothless China travel ban in which 40,000 people got on planes and came here from China shortly after.
Okee :rolleyes:

Which was deemed racist, you dumb ****.
 
Another terrific episode of How the Worm Turns :)

China is providing help and supplies to us right now, so the President is going to play up to them.

Yeah, I noticed that Donnie was blaming his own incompetency more now on the media, WHO and Dem governors and mayors than on China.


Trump was not incompetent in this problem. The incompetent ones were the Chinese. They didn't provide warning or protection from this thing when they learned it got out of the lab. They stopped all domestic flights from Wuhan, and allowed international travel. They are responsible for this problem--nobody else.

We're gonna have to disagree on that. Donald isn't responsible for the virus. He IS responsible for a miserable response to the virus.

I don't see how. He took action the day the WHO categorized it as a problem. Hell, the leftists new hero, Dr. Fuci said as late as January 21st that it wasn't going to be a problem for the US. And remember the Democrats like Piglosi who were encouraging people to ignore the virus because it's not going to be a problem.

I don't know why you single out Trump.......wait a minute, I take that back. I do know why you single him out.

Oh, you must be talking about the toothless China travel ban in which 40,000 people got on planes and came here from China shortly after.
Okee :rolleyes:

Which was deemed racist, you dumb ****.

Time for you to go ColonelAnus :bye1:
 
Every post on this board is written on a machine made in SE Asia if not China itself. It will be just as true this time next year
 
Another terrific episode of How the Worm Turns :)

China is providing help and supplies to us right now, so the President is going to play up to them.

Yeah, I noticed that Donnie was blaming his own incompetency more now on the media, WHO and Dem governors and mayors than on China.


Trump was not incompetent in this problem. The incompetent ones were the Chinese. They didn't provide warning or protection from this thing when they learned it got out of the lab. They stopped all domestic flights from Wuhan, and allowed international travel. They are responsible for this problem--nobody else.

We're gonna have to disagree on that. Donald isn't responsible for the virus. He IS responsible for a miserable response to the virus.

I don't see how. He took action the day the WHO categorized it as a problem. Hell, the leftists new hero, Dr. Fuci said as late as January 21st that it wasn't going to be a problem for the US. And remember the Democrats like Piglosi who were encouraging people to ignore the virus because it's not going to be a problem.

I don't know why you single out Trump.......wait a minute, I take that back. I do know why you single him out.

Oh, you must be talking about the toothless China travel ban in which 40,000 people got on planes and came here from China shortly after.
Okee :rolleyes:

Which was deemed racist, you dumb ****.

Time for you to go ColonelAnus :bye1:

I don’t think so ChinaLove.
 
Make the base manufacturing rate here $20 per hour now and it's a good start.
 
Another terrific episode of How the Worm Turns :)

China is providing help and supplies to us right now, so the President is going to play up to them.

Yeah, I noticed that Donnie was blaming his own incompetency more now on the media, WHO and Dem governors and mayors than on China.


Trump was not incompetent in this problem. The incompetent ones were the Chinese. They didn't provide warning or protection from this thing when they learned it got out of the lab. They stopped all domestic flights from Wuhan, and allowed international travel. They are responsible for this problem--nobody else.

We're gonna have to disagree on that. Donald isn't responsible for the virus. He IS responsible for a miserable response to the virus.

I don't see how. He took action the day the WHO categorized it as a problem. Hell, the leftists new hero, Dr. Fuci said as late as January 21st that it wasn't going to be a problem for the US. And remember the Democrats like Piglosi who were encouraging people to ignore the virus because it's not going to be a problem.

I don't know why you single out Trump.......wait a minute, I take that back. I do know why you single him out.
Whatever bullshit about the virus that comes out of the mouth of Trump or other politicians should be taken with a grain of salt. It's actions not rhetoric that counts in an epidemic, something we saw very little of during the crucial months when the virus could have been contained.

The data needed to manufacture test kits was released by China and the WHO about Jan 12th. Before there were any cases of the virus in South Korea , they began preparing to make test kits to identify the disease. They were mass producing test kits after 3 weeks. Fast forward two months, and South Korea is among the world's worst affected countries, with more than 7,800 people infected, and more than 60 deaths and in the US a nursing home had 18 suspected cases and 2 elsewhere. South Korea then began a massive program of testing suspected infections and contacts, quarantining tens of thousand and hospitalizing over 2000. In the US, only a few hundred test kits were available and they were divided up equally between the states of which many proved to be faulty. By the end of March, South Korea had reduced the number of new cases a day by 90%. In the US, 20 cases had grown to over 20,000 cases and the number test kits were still not even enough to test all suspected infections much less the contacts.

For whatever reason, the administration failed miserable to provide the resources need to bring the virus under control. Trump claimed he was not responsible. He claimed it was the fault of the democrats, Obama, China, the states, the hospitals, the WHO, ect.
 
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Another terrific episode of How the Worm Turns :)

China is providing help and supplies to us right now, so the President is going to play up to them.

Yeah, I noticed that Donnie was blaming his own incompetency more now on the media, WHO and Dem governors and mayors than on China.


Trump was not incompetent in this problem. The incompetent ones were the Chinese. They didn't provide warning or protection from this thing when they learned it got out of the lab. They stopped all domestic flights from Wuhan, and allowed international travel. They are responsible for this problem--nobody else.

We're gonna have to disagree on that. Donald isn't responsible for the virus. He IS responsible for a miserable response to the virus.

I don't see how. He took action the day the WHO categorized it as a problem. Hell, the leftists new hero, Dr. Fuci said as late as January 21st that it wasn't going to be a problem for the US. And remember the Democrats like Piglosi who were encouraging people to ignore the virus because it's not going to be a problem.

I don't know why you single out Trump.......wait a minute, I take that back. I do know why you single him out.
Whatever bullshit about the virus that comes out of the mouth of Trump or other politicians should be taken with a grain of salt. It's actions not rhetoric that counts in an epidemic, something we saw very little of during the crucial months when the virus could have been contained.

The data needed to manufacture test kits was released by China and the WHO about Jan 12th. Before there were any cases of the virus in South Korea , they began preparing to make test kits to identify the disease. They were mass producing test kits after 3 weeks. Fast forward two months, and South Korea is among the world's worst affected countries, with more than 7,800 people infected, and more than 60 deaths and in the US a nursing home had 18 suspected cases and 2 elsewhere. South Korea then began a massive program of testing suspected infections and contacts, quarantining tens of thousand and hospitalizing over 2000. In the US, only a few hundred test kits were available and they were divided up equally between the states of which many proved to be faulty. By the end of March, South Korea had reduced the number of new cases a day by 90%. In the US, 20 cases had grown to over 20,000 cases and the number test kits were still not even enough to test all suspected infections much less the contacts.

For whatever reason, the administration failed miserable to provide the resources need to bring the virus under control. Trump claimed he was not responsible. He claimed it was the fault of the democrats, Obama, China, the states, the hospitals, the WHO, ect.

Oh please. It's the CDC and FDA that Fd everything up. Quit blaming the President for things that he left up to our medical agencies that they screwed up. They don't have bureaucracies mired in red tape and regulation in South Korea. They need something, they just get it; something we can't do in our system of government.

When the first cases of COVID-19 were reported in the US, two labs at the CDC were the only ones permitted to conduct COVID-19 testing, using a test developed by the agency’s own researchers. When the CDC tried to expand testing by providing its test kits to state and local public health labs, there were problems with the initial version of the kits, which the CDC then reworked.

That delay, along with the growing number of undetected cases in the U.S., prompted the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) on Feb. 29 to expand its approval criteria to allow any qualified lab to develop its own test. Two of the largest diagnostic commercial labs, Quest Diagnostics and LabCorp, have begun testing this week but are still conducting only a few thousand a day as they scale up capacity.

In the US, rollout of widespread testing is plagued by not only logistical issues but political over-promising and supply constraints. When the FDA expanded its approval criteria at the end of February, agency commissioner Dr. Stephen Hahn predicted that the policy would lead to enough test kits for more than a million people within a week; when that goal wasn’t met, White House Coronavirus Task Force point person Mike Pence was forced to extend the target date by a week as companies scrambled to familiarize themselves with the test and order the chemicals and reagents they needed.

There are also still technical hurdles for some of the labs that are trying to run the CDC test. Smaller labs, including those at major hospitals, are struggling to meet some of the FDA’s approval requirements.


So if you're going to point fingers, quit trying to make this like it's all Trump's fault, when he had little control over all the BS of our bureaucracies.

 
Make the base manufacturing rate here $20 per hour now and it's a good start.

If you mean a good start to influencing companies to close up and leave, or otherwise make investments in more automation, you are correct.
 
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Every post on this board is written on a machine made in SE Asia if not China itself. It will be just as true this time next year

I think it all depends on how bad this gets, how long it takes us to recover from this, and how much money citizens in the US have lost.

At least for myself, I'm going to be very choosy as to what products I buy in the future. I see a lot of my Facebook friends claiming the same. We'll see.......
 
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Can we get ONE liberal to admit it’s a good thing if we aren’t as reliant on China manufacturing?

How about the flip side? Can we get liberals in here to tell us why it’s bad for China to lose some manufacturing.

You know the left are hypocrites. On one hand, they ***** about employee pay in this country, on the other hand, they support virtual open borders for immigrants to come here and take our jobs and lower pay for Americans.

There is only one true way to lessen our reliance on China manufacturing, and that is for Americans to buy American products. Tariffs made our products more competitive to China, and look who was complaining about that.

Americans buying American campaigns have been past total failures.

You have Toyotas assembled in Texas and Chevrolets assembled in Mexico.

Which one is American?
Neither.

Chevy is Government Motors. Never buy another new GM product.

Toyota is Japanese but they hire American.
Gave up on GM and American made cars after getting stuck with a 1978 Pontiac Grad Prix. That car was a lemon and a piece of shit and I told the head of pontiac motor division that directly. It was really his piss poor attitude that convinced me to give up American makes and to never go back.

The last American made car I owned was a Malibu. After 30,000 miles, my mechanic drove it more than I did. One day when he came to my house to repair my car yet again, he told me how little work he gets from people that own a Toyota. He talked about the quality of parts they use, the engineering, and told me to pay attention to the side of the road when I'm on any highway, and take note of what kind of cars are there.

He talked himself out of my business, because when I finally got fed up, I bought a Toyota. I'm on my third one in the last 20 years. Never been late for work or had to call off, never seen a tow truck, and the Camry I bought last August comes with a 7 year--100,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty. Everybody compliments me on the looks of the car.

It doesn't surprise me though. As a truck driver, I had my share of dealing with those union idiots on the docks at our auto plants. In fact the last company I worked for finally stopped taking auto plant deliveries, because those union idiots would take a half a day to unload my truck, something non-union places did in 20 to 35 minutes.
 
Another terrific episode of How the Worm Turns :)

China is providing help and supplies to us right now, so the President is going to play up to them.

Yeah, I noticed that Donnie was blaming his own incompetency more now on the media, WHO and Dem governors and mayors than on China.


Trump was not incompetent in this problem. The incompetent ones were the Chinese. They didn't provide warning or protection from this thing when they learned it got out of the lab. They stopped all domestic flights from Wuhan, and allowed international travel. They are responsible for this problem--nobody else.

We're gonna have to disagree on that. Donald isn't responsible for the virus. He IS responsible for a miserable response to the virus.

I don't see how. He took action the day the WHO categorized it as a problem. Hell, the leftists new hero, Dr. Fuci said as late as January 21st that it wasn't going to be a problem for the US. And remember the Democrats like Piglosi who were encouraging people to ignore the virus because it's not going to be a problem.

I don't know why you single out Trump.......wait a minute, I take that back. I do know why you single him out.

Oh, you must be talking about the toothless China travel ban in which 40,000 people got on planes and came here from China shortly after.
Okee :rolleyes:

So what is your suggestion, that we leave our people there stranded? Many now believe the virus was already on our shores long before the first case was discovered. Asymptomatic people and those with much less severe symptoms assumed they had a bad cold or a weak flu virus.

It couldn't be stopped thanks to China and WHO, both of which were less than honest with us about what was really going on.
 
How many of YOU own Apple products?

The moment the suicide net story broke I ditched ALL my Apple products and will never again support them.

I thought I was the only one who did that. After I heard that I went full Android and haven't looked back.
 
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