Hegseth defends returning Confederate monument to Arlington National Cemetery

[Zincwarrior]

They were given back full rights as Citizens. They were forgiven and welcomed back to the United States, as was the Union's purpose in the war.

Don't try revisionist history on me, buddy.

Thats what a pardon is. It is not forgiveness.

 

[drudge X]

That’s what the inscription implies.

Those that fought to keep white’s supremacy over black people were called heroes. Their cause was just and righteous.

Your butthurt is duly noted.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Most of the slave owners of proper age and their sons fought, but as officers. Again with the revisionist history.

They could buy their way out of it. Why on earth are you, a New Yorker, defending enslavers?

 

[martybegan]

Thats what a pardon is. It is not forgiveness.

The vast majority didn't have to be pardoned, as they weren't charged with anything.

 

[Zincwarrior]

The vast majority didn't have to be pardoned, as they weren't charged with anything.

INcorrect. ALL CSA soldiers were granted a general pardon in 1868.

All Confederate soldiers gain presidential pardons, Dec. 25, 1868

The pardons were unconditional and aimed at healing the nation.

www.politico.com

 

[martybegan]

They could buy their way out of it. Why on earth are you, a New Yorker, defending enslavers?

I am defending both sides that agreed that as part of the peace after the fighting the winners let the losers mourn as they saw fit.

Some skittle haired ***** don't the right or the gravitas to nullify that arrangement.

And when this all started you idiots might have gotten more traction if you actually started a debate on this, instead of having your anti-fa stormtruppen rip things down, and scared local councils unilaterally remove them without debate or discussion.

Then you have this shining example:

Foundry Workers Melt Down Charlottesville's Divisive Robert E. Lee Statue

 

[martybegan]

INcorrect. ALL CSA soldiers were granted a general pardon in 1868.

All Confederate soldiers gain presidential pardons, Dec. 25, 1868

The pardons were unconditional and aimed at healing the nation.

www.politico.com

more pro forma than anything, considering 99.9% were never CHARGED with anything.

 

[citygator]

Next guy can just blow it up.

 

[Zincwarrior]

more pro forma than anything, considering 99.9% were never CHARGED with anything.

This is fair.

 

[martybegan]

Next guy can just blow it up.

So you support criminal destruction of property because you don't like it?

 

[Correll]

Next guy can just blow it up.

It is worth noting that you are trying to make changes that cannot be undone, by normal political means...

 

[citygator]

So you support criminal destruction of property because you don't like it?

Yep

 

[Correll]

Yep

YOu give any thought to what happens if we start playing by the rules ou are pushing?

 

[Marener]

The Confederacy was willing to fight and die to keep SLAVERY, not to settle for just "suppressing" freed blacks.

That you...lie abou this, is you being a liar.

They lost and had to settle for suppressing freed blacks because they were never able to recognize their cause was wrong. Thats what this statute embodies.

Except the sentiment of both the Confederacy and Jim Crow are long dead, and yet, the desire to celebrate their history and their lost dead, si still there...

So, again, the shit you say, just is not true.

Apparently the desire isn’t long dead because Hegseth thinks this statute needs to be back to celebrate their history.

You clearly are asking fof submission and mindless conformity. And the fundamental issue was resolved.

your hysterical about race, is not shared, not by the Americians of the time, nor me today. So... get over yourself, lefty.

The hysteria over race is a historical fact and colored the American experience for hundreds of years.

Who's pretending? I pointed out that when these statues were erected, that Jim Crow was in full effect. The power of the dem party and it's racism had guns and nooses to enforce their will.

I've read accounts of the civil rights struggles of those time periods. Not once did I read any discussion of, or fear of some statues in the park.

The statutes were the least of their concern at the time, but a lasting remnant of the struggle.

You go build a time machine and go back and time and sell your line of jive to the American voters of the post war era.

Because this is long settled shit. Today, you people are just being assholes.

People putting up these statutes are assholes.

Most people want to put a positive spin on their losses.

YOur desire to turn everything into a struggle session is denied. You marxist are not in charge and hopefully you never will be.


We are UNDOING, your cancel culture shit.

That’s what it’s about. You don’t give a shit about what the statute says. You want it back because the other side doesn’t. That’s what I think. You can’t see the other side logically. It’s just fight anything they say or do.

 

[citygator]

YOu give any thought to what happens if we start playing by the rules ou are pushing?

Too late. Trump is executing executive orders outside the law. I could give zero shits what the next Democratic President does to confederate statues on federal land. I’d destroy them all and erect union ones in its place.

Can’t undo destruction.

 

[citygator]

It is worth noting that you are trying to make changes that cannot be undone, by normal political means...

You got it.

 

[Correll]

They lost and had to settle for suppressing freed blacks because they were never able to recognize their cause was wrong. Thats what this statute embodies.

IN context that makes no sense. YOu are just spamming assertions and not bothering to address counterpoints.

You lose.

Apparently the desire isn’t long dead because Hegseth thinks this statute needs to be back to celebrate their history.

The hysteria over race is a historical fact and colored the American experience for hundreds of years.

The statutes were the least of their concern at the time, but a lasting remnant of the struggle.


People putting up these statutes are assholes.

That’s what it’s about. You don’t give a shit about what the statute says. You want it back because the other side doesn’t. That’s what I think. You can’t see the other side logically. It’s just fight anything they say or do.

i'M done with giving the leftards's desire to tear down American history any crediblity.

You are all assholes and your desire to force a constant seriers of stuggle sessions no white people because of your obsession with race,


is denied.

 

[Correll]

You got it.

What's your plan when we match your escalation?

Wait, let me guess.

Pretend to be surprised adn cry like a baby about how unfair it is?

 

[martybegan]

Yep

Then you are a miserable ******* ****.

 

[martybegan]

You got it.

The side that hates guns wants a civil war. LOL