Hegseth defends returning Confederate monument to Arlington National Cemetery

[Marener]

That's reality.

Only fucktard idiots like you need to complicate matters.

Pretending the 100 years after the civil war don’t mean anything is denying reality.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Pretending the 100 years after the civil war don’t mean anything is denying reality.

If it doesn't mean anything, why bring it back?

 

[martybegan]

They were pardoned. Not forgiven. You don't need to put a monument to TRAITORS on holy ground.

You have no historical or factual reason for this position. Just your current political needs for boogeymen.

There are confederates buried there, you want them dug up?

 

[martybegan]

Pretending the 100 years after the civil war don’t mean anything is denying reality.

Who's pretending they don't mean anything you dumb ****?

 

[martybegan]

If it doesn't mean anything, why bring it back?

because it should have never been removed in the first place.

 

[Marener]

Who's pretending they don't mean anything you dumb ****?

You are, dumb ****. You think it has nothing to do with the presence of that statute placed 60 years after the civil war amidst a country deeply regressed into white supremacy and oppression of black Americans.

 

[mudwhistle]

Read they passed some resolution mandating such.... They run D.C.....

The only reason Democrats run D.C. is because they steal billions from the US Treasury and divvy it out to their friends.
Democrats makes sure the gravy-train stays in operation.....while constantly calling for ever-increasing taxes.

 

[martybegan]

You are, dumb ****. You think it has nothing to do with the presence of that statute placed 60 years after the civil war amidst a country deeply regressed into white supremacy and oppression of black Americans.

60 years after was toward the point where the majority of those fighting in it were dying off.

How long did it take to get a WWII memorial in DC?

 

[Marener]

How long did it take to get a WWII memorial in DC?

That memorial didn’t commemorate the “Nazi heroes”, did it?

Erecting memorials commemorating the heroism of the bad side is only done when you don’t think they are the bad side. Given the atmosphere of minority oppressing at the time, that’s exactly what this statue is.

 

[martybegan]

That memorial didn’t commemorate the “Nazi heroes”, did it?

Erecting memorials commemorating the heroism of the bad side is only done when you don’t think they are the bad side. Given the atmosphere of minority oppressing at the time, that’s exactly what this statue is.

If you can't understand the difference between a civil war and a foreign war I can't help you.

The bad side was comprised of our fellow citizens, who were forgiven and let back into the fold.

 

[Marener]

If you can't understand the difference between a civil war and a foreign war I can't help you.

The bad side was comprised of our fellow citizens, who were forgiven and let back into the fold.

The Nazis were fellow Germans but you don’t see any memorials to their heroism in Germany.

The statute proves that the south didn’t deserve forgiveness.

 

[Zincwarrior]

You have no historical or factual reason for this position. Just your current political needs for boogeymen.

There are confederates buried there, you want them dug up?

No. Just keep the monument away. Its an affirmative act to bring it back.

 

[Correll]

You’ve done nothing but deny the meaning of the statute. You just ignore it. Look at the inscriptions. They call them heroes. What’s heroic about starting a civil war to enslave black people? The Latin phrase implies their cause was righteous and just. There’s nothing righteous and just about wanting to enslave black people.

These are assertions backed by evidence and logic. You chose to ignore them rather than address them.

Societies don't maintain shrines to injustice after weve identified and corrected the injustice.

1. Actually I did more than just assert my point. I supported it by pointing out differences between the Confederacy and the Jim Crow south, which you denied, and pointed out that your claim that the statues were part of Jim Crow oppression was clearly false as the Dems of the age had guns and nooses to enforce their racist will.

That you are denying that, is just you being a shit talker.


2. A bit of positive spin on your dead ancestors is fine and harmless. Your ugly hate makes you ugly.


3. This is about your desire to oppress your fellow Americans TODAY.

 

[hadit]

Putting monuments to the enemies of the nation in the national cemetery.

What's next? Statues of hitler?

Was there ever a reconciliation of former Nazis into American society, or were they hanged for their crimes? Answer that honestly and I think you will clear up your confusion.

 

[martybegan]

The Nazis were fellow Germans but you don’t see any memorials to their heroism in Germany.

The statute proves that the south didn’t deserve forgiveness.

So the Confederates were as bad as the Nazis now? that insults every single victim of Nazism, alive or dead.

Says one of the biggest morons on this board. You have the IQ of a turnip.

 

[martybegan]

No. Just keep the monument away. Its an affirmative act to bring it back.

It was a bullshit action to remove it. Blame the spineless ***** who removed it in the first place.

 

[Marener]

1. Actually I did more than just assert my point. I supported it by pointing out differences between the Confederacy and the Jim Crow south, which you denied, and pointed out that your claim that the statues were part of Jim Crow oppression was clearly false as the Dems of the age had guns and nooses to enforce their racist will.

That you are denying that, is just you being a shit talker.

The only difference is the matter of degree. They’re both borne of white supremacy. I didn’t deny it.

2. A bit of positive spin on your dead ancestors is fine and harmless. Your ugly hate makes you ugly.

It’s less harmless if your glorify their white supremacist cause. You’re keeping alive an ideology that needs to die.

3. This is about your desire to oppress your fellow Americans TODAY.

That’s ******* unhinged. No one is oppressed by removing a statute. Jesus, the victim hood.

 

[rightwinger]

Because we recognize our history, we don’t erase it. We don’t follow the woke lemmings off the cliff that want to tear down statues,” the secretary said.

Slavery!

 

[Care4all]

The only reason Democrats run D.C. is because they steal billions from the US Treasury and divvy it out to their friends.
Democrats makes sure the gravy-train stays in operation.....while constantly calling for ever-increasing taxes.

Republicans in Congress control DC now, it is their ruling committees and their Sergeant of arms for the Senate and house. Yes they have a Democratic mayor as part of the ruling board.

 

[Marener]

So the Confederates were as bad as the Nazis now? that insults every single victim of Nazism, alive or dead.

Says one of the biggest morons on this board. You have the IQ of a turnip.

Nazis weren’t forgiven and let back into the fold?

Chattel slavery is abhorrent. This isn’t a contest. It’s a discussion about whether we honor those who fought for abhorrent causes.