Hegseth defends returning Confederate monument to Arlington National Cemetery

[rightwinger]

Agreed, but you are just showing your mental illness. You confirmed that in the next statement.

I understand Skipper

As part of MAGA you are sworn to defend the Confederacy

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

INcorrect. ALL CSA soldiers were granted a general pardon in 1868.

All Confederate soldiers gain presidential pardons, Dec. 25, 1868

The pardons were unconditional and aimed at healing the nation.

www.politico.com

The pardon was for insurrection, not a criminal act like burglary. There were no charges.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I understand Skipper

As part of MAGA you are sworn to defend the Confederacy

I am not defending the Confederacy. I am stating actual history. Not your versions of revisionist history that Zinc tends to promote.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Looking for revenge over something settled over a century ago.

Zinc doesn't realize these men were friends before the war and remained friends afterward. A particular problem with the Union Navy was that almost all of their leaders were married to women from Charleston SC.

 

[rightwinger]

I am not defending the Confederacy. I am stating actual history. Not your versions of revisionist history that Zinc tends to promote.

Actual history is that the Confederacy was 40 percent enslaved….and you defend it

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You have no historical or factual reason for this position. Just your current political needs for boogeymen.

There are confederates buried there, you want them dug up?

Amen! Pass the ammunition, please!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Actual history is that the Confederacy was 40 percent enslaved….and you defend it

You can't get past the fact that history happened, and you cannot change it. That's that liberal mental illness again.

 

[rightwinger]

You can't get past the fact that history happened, and you cannot change it. That's that liberal mental illness again.

Why is Hegseth naming military bases in honor of Confederates?
Why is he bringing back confederate monuments?

It is your party supporting Lost Cause

 

[Crepitus]

The men on both sides of the American Civil War eventually forgave each other to a large extent.

The aging Confederate veterans of the late 19th and early 20th centuries wanted the good aspects of their legacy preserved.

Such commemorative and reconciliation monuments were allowed in a spirit of reconciliation of the regions of the Republic.

Such monuments were never intended as praise to Slavery or its onerous practices.

Such monuments were intended to remember the bravery and heroism and independent spirit of Southern soldiers.

The recent actions of Democratic regimes (the Biden Admin, et al) in hiding or destroying those monuments are despicable.

Personally, I'm a Northerner my broader family lost a great-great-uncle who died in Union Blue and Kennesaw Mountain.

Had I lived as a young man in the 1861-1865 time frame I would have been a Union Man through-and-through.

Both for keeping the Union together AND, as it evolved later, to eliminate the scourge of Slavery from our Home Soil.

But, like so many Union Men, at the end of the War and beyond, I would have been fine with setting up those monuments.

Such monuments were never intended as praise to Slavery or its onerous practices.

And yet that is what they are used for today.

 

[Zincwarrior]

I understand Skipper

As part of MAGA you are sworn to defend the Confederacy

Its strange. They claim to be Republicans, but act like 1963 southern Democrats.

 

[rightwinger]

Such monuments were never intended as praise to Slavery or its onerous practices.

And yet that is what they are used for today.

They sought to separate the Confederacy from the institution of slavery

Can’t be done

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Why is Hegseth naming military bases in honor of Confederates?
Why is he bringing back confederate monuments?

It is your party supporting Lost Cause

He isn't! He is renaming them for American for American soldiers with the same names. You are pissed because he beat you at your own game!

Every soldier ever stationed a those bases wanted the names returned. My daughter was stationed at Fort Hood and my son at Fort Benning.

There are Confederate soldiers buried in that cemetery. Did you not know this? Did you also not know this was Robert E. Lee's family estate?

You are one dumbass SOB!

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Should have just left them alone to begin with

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Such monuments were never intended as praise to Slavery or its onerous practices.

And yet that is what they are used for today.

No they’re not. Where did you get this nonsense?

 

[Eman623]

If the left wants to restart the civil war over some statues, go ahead.

But the statues are going back up. Woke is dead.

 

[Zincwarrior]

If the left wants to restart the civil war over some statues, go ahead.

But the statues are going back up. Woke is dead.

Until the next admin melts them down..

 

[Eman623]

Until the next admin melts them down..

Then the next one will recast new ones. Not like the Dems are going to win at the national level anytime soon.

 

[Kondor3]

Such monuments were never intended as praise to Slavery or its onerous practices.

Correct.

And yet that is what they are used for today.

Incorrect.

A "Charlottesville" or two and you Throw the Baby Out with the Bathwater.

The vast majority of Southerners who remember and honor their Confederate ancestors are not bigots nor racists.

They merely honor the bravery and independent spirit of those Old Ones.

That would be rather like tearing down an MLK statue or dynamiting the Pettus Bridge because folks rioted in 2020.

Leave all of the monuments to our nation's history intact... ALL... regardless of whether we agree with a given symbol or not.

 

[Kondor3]

Until the next admin melts them down..

If true, then..

The Trump crowd might as well melt-down the MLK statues and the George Floyd statues and dynamite the Pettus Bridge, eh?

And... maybe for good measure... the Harriet Tubman and 54th Massachusetts and Tuskeegee Airman memorials, etc.?

Or... even though the Trump crowd currently holds the power to do just that... how about we DON'T do any of that, either?

That threatened melt-down destructiveness swings both ways... and if you-and-yours do any such thing, you can expect similar treatment the next time beyond that that you LOSE power again (and you most certainly will)...

Don't start something you can't finish... unless you're a stupid LibProg who walks through life clueless, as so many do...

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How about we just let them all co-exist in peace?

 

[drudge X]

Why is Hegseth naming military bases in honor of Confederates?
Why is he bringing back confederate monuments?

It is your party supporting Lost Cause

Why bothered takiing them down after St. Floyd died when the statues were up for more than 100 years?