Zone1 Hebrews 1:8 says Jesus is God

[Cougarbear]

Sin is disobedience to the Law. So according to your beliefs it is impossible for a human being to live without sin? Food for thought. What type of sadistic god would give Laws that were impossible for humans to comply with?


"To commit sin is to break God's Law; sin, in fact, is lawlessness. Christ appeared ,as you know, to do away with sins, and there is no sin in him. No man, therefore, who dwells in him is a sinner; the sinner has not seen him and does not know him.

My children, do not be misled; it is the man who does what is right who is righteous, as God is righteous; the man who sins is a child of the devil, for the devil has been a sinner from the first; and the Son of God appeared for the very purpose of undoing the devils work.

A child of God does not commit sin, because the Divine seed remains in him, he cannot be a sinner because he is God's child. That is the distinction between the children of God and the children of the devil. No one who does not do what is right is God's child, neither is anyone who does not love his brother." 1 John 3:4-10

Are you comprehension challenged? Here it is again: " Jehovah is Elohim’s Son. Jehovah obtained membership in the Godhead before the foundations of the universe were organized. So, when he descended so that he could eventually ascend back to His throne, he was literally and spiritually God on earth. That’s why he was the only sinless human to ever walk the earth. God cannot sin. All others fall short the Glory of God." Jesus was still God while he was here on earth. That's how he healed the blind and made Lazareth rise from the dead. Being God, he could not sin. God sets the laws and it's up to man to be obedient, not the other way around. Stop telling God what he can and can't do. You are putting yourself above God.

 

[hobelim]

Are you comprehension challenged? Here it is again:

Shove it.

"To commit sin is to break God's Law; sin, in fact, is lawlessness. Christ appeared ,as you know, to do away with sins, and there is no sin in him. No man, therefore, who dwells in him is a sinner; the sinner has not seen him and does not know him.

My children, do not be misled; it is the man who does what is right who is righteous, as God is righteous; the man who sins is a child of the devil, for the devil has been a sinner from the first; and the Son of God appeared for the very purpose of undoing the devils work.

A child of God does not commit sin, because the Divine seed remains in him, he cannot be a sinner because he is God's child. That is the distinction between the children of God and the children of the devil. No one who does not do what is right is God's child, neither is anyone who does not love his brother." 1 Jn 3:4-10

 

[Cougarbear]

Anyone who would write "submit to the governing authorities" when Nero was caesar wasn't an apostle of Jesus.

Whether of his own free will or because he was being tortured in a Roman prison Paul was promoting Mithraism, upon which each of the over 30,000 Christian denominations are based. Mithraism was the secret Babylonian MYSTERY RELIGION of the Roman government and military that became the Roman Catholic Church in 325ce.

The Church teaching people to worship Jesus, a man, as if he was an edible triune god is how Rome has used "the power of death" consequent to defying Divine Law to beguile and subjugate the nations ever since 325ce.

You pray to and worship the Antichrist, a false substitute counterfeit Jesus with all the "miracles of the lie" that scripture is to be taken literally conjured from the depths of a Roman hell and unleashed on the world in 325ce.

Now you know.

How is it that you, a dedicated "believer", , does't know the only right course to take? Where is your faith?

Jesus said "Render unto Cesar that which is Cesar's and render unto God that which is God's. You lose again. You are not God. You are no spiritual leader. You have no authority to decide what is scripture and what is not. Paul was an apostle and he calls you to repentance and stop the acts of homosexual.

 

[hobelim]

Jesus said "Render unto Cesar that which is Cesar's and render unto God that which is God's.

Exactly. Nothing belonged to Caesar, especially in brutally occupied Judea, everything belonged to God.

 

[hobelim]

You have no authority to decide what is scripture and what is not.

Of course I have the authority granted to me by God by virtue of him giving me a functioning brain that can tell the difference between good and evil, right and wrong, true and false, life and death, and the will to choose life.

And reject evil.

 

[Cougarbear]

Exactly. Nothing belonged to Caesar, especially in Judea, everything belonged to God.

WHAT!!! You can't comprehend. The question was about paying taxes and tithing! LOL!!! Jesus didn't want people to be slaughtered and that's why he wanted them to adhere to the law of the land. Just like he wants of us today too! Especially in countries where it's obey or die. Good grief. Go to school all over again. Unbelievable.

 

[Cougarbear]

Of course I have the authority granted to me by God by virtue of him giving me a functioning brain that can tell the difference between good and evil, right and wrong, true and false, life and death, and the will to choose life.

And reject evil.

You again put your brain above God's. You don't know the difference between right and wrong. When you do wrong, like gay acts, you hide your sin by denouncing all condemnations in the Bible. You can't even comprehend simple writings in the Bible.

 

[hobelim]

The question was about paying taxes and tithing!

Exactly. His enemies were trying to trip him up to frame a charge against him. His answer was brilliant! To the average roman shill standing around it sounded like he was advocating roman taxation but to the faithful it sounded like the exact opposite. Give nothing to Caesar, because nothing in all of Judea belonged to Caesar.

 

[Cougarbear]

Exactly. His enemies were trying to trip him up to frame a charge against him. His answer was brilliant! To the average roman shill standing around it sounded like he was advocating roman taxation but to the faithful it sounded like the exact opposite, give nothing to Caesar, because nothing in all of Judea belonged to Caesar.

That not what he said. He said pay (give) to Cesar what Cesar is over on earth. Why do you keep saying give “nothing” to Cesar? That is not there. The fact is, the land is Cesar’s then. Again, comprehension challenges.

 

[Moonglow]

The Father himself is speaking in Hebrews 1 and says in verse 8 that Jesus, His Son, is to be called God as well. Now, Colossians 2:9 makes sense. "For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily." Verse 8 then says not to follow the philosophy and vain deceit after the traditions of men. This means to only follow prophets and apostles who teach through the spirit of God and not the secular non-prophets of the Unitarians like Jehovah Witnesses and their non-prophet so called scholars.

God did not call Jesus God in Hebrews 1:8, although some Bible scholars think so and therefore translate the verse, for example, like this in the New King James Version.

Does Hebrews 1:8 call Jesus “God"? - incmedia.org​

incmedia.org

 

[hobelim]

You can't even comprehend simple writings in the Bible.

Sure I do.

"God is not a man, so he doesn't lie; he is not human so he doesn't change his mind."

That's simple. Easy to understand. If you understand that is your religion that worships a man who you believe abolished Divine Law for believers who celebrate human sacrifice a demonstration of pure hatred for God?

 

[hobelim]

God did not call Jesus God in Hebrews 1:8, although some Bible scholars think so and therefore translate the verse, for example, like this in the New King James Version.

Does Hebrews 1:8 call Jesus “God"? - incmedia.org​

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Jesus said he would be lifted up like Moses lifted up the bronze serpent for healing during the time of testing in the wilderness. Hezekiah was credited with keeping Gods commandments and doing what is right in Gods eyes by destroying the bronze statue of a serpent that Moses made which had become the object of idolatry. Here's the thing. If it was right for Hezekiah to destroy the bronze statue then it was never right to turn to it for healing.

This shows that Jesus knew that he would become the object of idolatry. So all Christians have to do is ask....


WHAT WOULD HEZEKIAH DO?


And do it.

 

[BreezeWood]

Do you think it makes sense for me to condescend to someone like you? Shouldn't I just be handing you a lollypop and patting you on the head? Wouldn't that make more sense than entertaining the thoughts of someone who is clearly mentally challenged. How can anyone reason with someone who feels no compulsion to share the basis for their beliefs (i.e. evidence and reasoning)? As near as I can tell you have been posting here for years without ever owning any religion or stating where you got your beliefs. Don't you think it is time that you be treated like someone who is given a lollypop and patted on the head?

the texas liar ...

do you have leviticuse's phone no. so everyone can ask them about mr big and all the rest they claim for humanity - do we know he has not been beating his wife - your 3000k year old buddy you base your's and everyone else's religion on, judaism that in fact murdered jesus you claim to be a heavenly blessing.

sure, even being a sinner you're still the one and only all knowing among all who have ever lived.

 

[BreezeWood]

I give thanks and praise to God every second of my day. You?

- you'll have to do better than try and bribe your way into the everlasting ... sinner, that's what they are for to judge your sincerity which you seem totally lacking of any heavenly attributes whatsoever.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

the texas liar ...

do you have leviticuse's phone no. so everyone can ask them about mr big and all the rest they claim for humanity - do we know he has not been beating his wife - your 3000k year old buddy you base your's and everyone else's religion on, judaism that in fact murdered jesus you claim to be a heavenly blessing.

sure, even being a sinner you're still the one and only all knowing among all who have ever lived.

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Sure is a big bowl of word salad there!




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[BreezeWood]

Yes, Jews give thanks and praise to God. It's a central part of Jewish faith and practice. Gratitude is a core value, and Jewish prayer, daily life, and traditions are filled with expressions of thanks and praise.

then why is there the 1st century events for which jesus gave their life in repudiation of judaism false commandments hereditary idolatry religion of apartheid ... not to mention simply their draconian bible no less corrupt than the other two bibles of the desert dwellers.

no where found the 1st century liberation theology, self determination they gave their lives for than judaism, christianity religions of servitude and denial.

 

[ding]

then why is there the 1st century events for which jesus gave their life in repudiation of judaism false commandments hereditary idolatry religion of apartheid ... not to mention simply their draconian bible no less corrupt than the other two bibles of the desert dwellers.

no where found the 1st century liberation theology, self determination they gave their lives for than judaism, christianity religions of servitude and denial.

- you'll have to do better than try and bribe your way into the everlasting ... sinner, that's what they are for to judge your sincerity which you seem totally lacking of any heavenly attributes whatsoever.

the texas liar ...

do you have leviticuse's phone no. so everyone can ask them about mr big and all the rest they claim for humanity - do we know he has not been beating his wife - your 3000k year old buddy you base your's and everyone else's religion on, judaism that in fact murdered jesus you claim to be a heavenly blessing.

sure, even being a sinner you're still the one and only all knowing among all who have ever lived.

 

[Cougarbear]

God did not call Jesus God in Hebrews 1:8, although some Bible scholars think so and therefore translate the verse, for example, like this in the New King James Version.

Does Hebrews 1:8 call Jesus “God"? - incmedia.org​

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Most scholars think so, not just some. Most Christians also believe Jesus is God. So, not sure why you would object too. This also makes "The Godhead" verse true as well. In context then, it is correct that Jesus is God. Of course, you can stick with your scholars but I will stick with my apostles and prophets. The foundation of the true church must be laid on the foundation of apostles and prophets with Jesus Christ as the chief cornerstone.

 

[OneIsTheWord]

The Father himself is speaking in Hebrews 1 and says in verse 8 that Jesus, His Son, is to be called God as well. Now, Colossians 2:9 makes sense. "For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily." Verse 8 then says not to follow the philosophy and vain deceit after the traditions of men. This means to only follow prophets and apostles who teach through the spirit of God and not the secular non-prophets of the Unitarians like Jehovah Witnesses and their non-prophet so called scholars.

1 John 5: 7

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[Cougarbear]

Sure I do.

"God is not a man, so he doesn't lie; he is not human so he doesn't change his mind."

That's simple. Easy to understand. If you understand that is your religion that worships a man who you believe abolished Divine Law for believers who celebrate human sacrifice a demonstration of pure hatred for God?

Hebrew 1:8 disagrees with you. Most Christian Scholars disagree with you. As do apostles and prophets today disagree with you. Yet, you will still fight your way to the depths of hell. Jesus Christ is a glorified man who was human and resurrected to Celestial Glory 1Cor. 15:40-43. God is therefore, a man and human, but glorified and resurrected. Reading comprehension challenges still? Yep!