Healthcare in the US is a privilege

[Captain Caveman]

The only country in the world with the bulk of private healthcare is the US. A search, AI says -

While many countries have healthcare systems with both public and private components, the United States is the only OECD country where voluntary health insurance is the main financing and coverage system for most of the population.

Healthcare is the US is a privilege, we enjoy healthcare as a RIGHT in the UK.

How bad is that? Worse than most third world countries. And no, everyone doesn't fly to the US for healthcare, that's a fallacy.

Why is healthcare in the US so bad??

 

[dblack]

The only country in the world with the bulk of private healthcare is the US. A search, AI says -

While many countries have healthcare systems with both public and private components, the United States is the only OECD country where voluntary health insurance is the main financing and coverage system for most of the population.

Healthcare is the US is a privilege, we enjoy healthcare as a RIGHT in the UK.

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How bad is that? Worse than most third world countries. And no, everyone doesn't fly to the US for healthcare, that's a fallacy.

Why is healthcare in the US so bad??

It's neither bad, nor good. It just means that in the US, the government doesn't control healthcare. Or the government doesn't control healthcare as much as you might like.

 

[Crepitus]

The only country in the world with the bulk of private healthcare is the US. A search, AI says -

While many countries have healthcare systems with both public and private components, the United States is the only OECD country where voluntary health insurance is the main financing and coverage system for most of the population.

Healthcare is the US is a privilege, we enjoy healthcare as a RIGHT in the UK.

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How bad is that? Worse than most third world countries. And no, everyone doesn't fly to the US for healthcare, that's a fallacy.

Why is healthcare in the US so bad??

I actually agree with you for a change.

 

[initforme]

It needs an overhaul so that insurance companies cannot reject legit claims. If one pays for the insurance ones claims should be covered, not rejected. That's a problem. A huge problem.

 

[TNHarley]

Oh look. Someone across the pond whining about a lack of government control. Color me shocked.

 

[1srelluc]

I pay for my health care through the .gov, does that help OP?

 

[Votto]

Oh look. Someone across the pond whining about a lack of government control. Color me shocked.

OK

 

[TNHarley]

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I dont get it lol

 

[Votto]

I hate the government and private health care insurance, as both turn you down at times, even universal care turns you down for things in these other countries like England or Canada.

In fact, in the US the government turns more people down that private care insurance, something no one ever talks about

What I would like to see instead, is for people to be able to put tax free money aside into an account that can accumulate over time that can only be used for your health care. Then when you need it, the money is there and you don't have to go begging to an ass hole insurance company or the indifferent government that never has to answer to anyone for how badly they treat others in such cases, as the media ignores it entirely. Only private insurance companies that turn you down the media covers, which is why Luigi went hunting a health care CEO. Left wing propaganda convinced him he deserved to die. I'm just tired of the BS. You never see people hunt down government officials that turn people down for health care. Why is that?

Then, lets say you can use that money for your family as well, or even for friends.

If implemented, you will begin to have entire populations of Americans who are not dependent on private insurance or government insurance, which is exactly why it will never be allowed.

 

[Votto]

I dont get it lol

He is going to paint you a happy shocked face.

 

[initforme]

I hate the government and private health care insurance, as both turn you down at times, even universal care turns you down for things in these other countries like England or Canada.

In fact, in the US the government turns more people down that private care insurance, something no one ever talks about

What I would like to see instead, is for people to be able to put tax free money aside into an account that can accumulate over time that can only be used for your health care. Then when you need it, the money is there and you don't have to go begging to an ass hole insurance company or the indifferent government that never has to answer to anyone for how badly they treat others in such cases, as the media ignores it entirely. Only private insurance companies that turn you down the media covers, which is why Luigi went hunting a health care CEO. Left wing propaganda convinced him he deserved to die. I'm just tired of the BS. You never see people hunt down government officials that turn people down for health care. Why is that?

Then, lets say you can use that money for your family as well, or even for friends.

If implemented, you will begin to have entire populations of Americans who are not dependent on private insurance or government insurance, which is exactly why it will never be allowed.

Most paycheck to paycheck earners could never save enough for healthcare and retirement and have enough left to afford living. That's a problem. Wages today are woefully inadequate for the vast majority of hard working people to pull it off.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Health Care Costs: What’s the Problem?

What costs are too high, and can they be controlled through policy while improving access to care and the health of the population?

www.aamcresearchinstitute.org

The cost of health care in the United States far exceeds that in other wealthy nations across the globe. In 2020, U.S. health care costs grew 9.7%, to $4.1 trillion, reaching about $12,530 per person.1 At the same time, the United States lags far behind other high-income countries when it comes to both access to care and some health care outcomes.2 As a result, policymakers and health care systems are facing increasing demands for more care at lower costs for more people. And, of course, everyone wants to know why their health care costs are so high.

NHS costs approx £500 per month on average in tax, half of the US system. Even then, you can pay for any part of your treatment to speed things up. This is part on why the USA is lower than the UK on the freedom index. Come to the UK, you will be freer!!

 

[Votto]

Most paycheck to paycheck earners could never save enough for healthcare and retirement and have enough left to afford living. That's a problem. Wages today are woefully inadequate for the vast majority of hard working people to pull it off.

Did I say it was an all-encompassing plan that will fix every ones problems?

No.

Only Leftists believe in such mythical plans, you know, like Obama promised with Obamacare



What I'm saying is that it is part of the solution as it would give the middle class, or what is left of it, a great deal more freedom, which is why Leftists would see to it that it never sees the light of day

Like Marx said, the Middle Class must be destroyed for the coming Left-wing utopia.

All that will be left are super-duper rich oligarchs like Biden and Soros, and their servants who like up the crumbs around their dinner table every day.

 

[Harry Dresden]

The only country in the world with the bulk of private healthcare is the US. A search, AI says -

While many countries have healthcare systems with both public and private components, the United States is the only OECD country where voluntary health insurance is the main financing and coverage system for most of the population.

Healthcare is the US is a privilege, we enjoy healthcare as a RIGHT in the UK.

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How bad is that? Worse than most third world countries. And no, everyone doesn't fly to the US for healthcare, that's a fallacy.

Why is healthcare in the US so bad??

ive never had any problems....and i have medicare and BC/BS.....

 

[TNHarley]

Health Care Costs: What’s the Problem?

What costs are too high, and can they be controlled through policy while improving access to care and the health of the population?

www.aamcresearchinstitute.org

The cost of health care in the United States far exceeds that in other wealthy nations across the globe. In 2020, U.S. health care costs grew 9.7%, to $4.1 trillion, reaching about $12,530 per person.1 At the same time, the United States lags far behind other high-income countries when it comes to both access to care and some health care outcomes.2 As a result, policymakers and health care systems are facing increasing demands for more care at lower costs for more people. And, of course, everyone wants to know why their health care costs are so high.

NHS costs approx £500 per month on average in tax, half of the US system. Even then, you can pay for any part of your treatment to speed things up. This is part on why the USA is lower than the UK on the freedom index. Come to the UK, you will be freer!!

My family insurance plan is half that.
Not sure the government controlling your healthcare makes someone more "free" or not.
P.S. Good thing im not typing this in the UK or i might have my door kicked in.

 

[Votto]

ive never had any problems....and i have medicare and BC/BS.....

America has universal care for veterans.

I know one such person who goes to the VA for simple stuff, but for the more complicated stuff he pays out of pocket with private insurance as you tend to get what you pay for.

And of coarse, I bet you have never heard of the Arizona VA scandal where they had a secret "do not treat" list of veterans that they deemed to sick and expensive to care for, so they falsified documents showing they did care for them when they did not and simply let them die. God only knows how much of this goes on. In fact, the scandal was almost swept under the rug entirely. And even when it was discovered, Obama just fired some nameless bureaucrat for it that had little to do, if anything, with the scandal and called it a day.

This is the Lefts vision of health care, that the Left actually admitted to before Obamacare was created

 

[Captain Caveman]

My family insurance plan is half that.
Not sure the government controlling your healthcare makes someone more "free" or not.
P.S. Good thing im not typing this in the UK or i might have my door kicked in.

All figures are average. On average, healthcare is double in the US than the UK.

 

[TNHarley]

All figures are average. On average, healthcare is double in the US than the UK.

Not for anyone I know, apparently.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Not for anyone I know, apparently.

That's why it's called "On Average".

That means, some pay more, some pay less.

In the UK, some pay more tax, some pay less tax.

So on average.............

Do Americans know what "on average" means?

Do I need to do some simple numbers, some simple maths(s)?

 

[Votto]

That's why it's called "On Average".

That means, some pay more, some pay less.

In the UK, some pay more tax, some pay less tax.

So on average.............

Do Americans know what "on average" means?

Do I need to do some simple numbers, some simple maths(s)?

I actually met someone from the UK who had a son who was misdiagnosed in the UK. He said over there he had no legal recourse to sue the doctor for a misdiagnosis or anything else for that matter, and other doctors in the UK were reluctant to overturn a diagnosis from one of their peeps, so he came to the US where they treated his son correctly and he is fine today.

I told him he needs to tell his story to others because people need to know this stuff.