HBO... Stopping the Steal.
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Sorry, I thought this was another video, I saw a few months ago. I delete my post. I plan to watch this program today and will comment after I watch it.
Thanks for pointing out my error
I watched the documentary last night. The documentary looks at the election fraud claims made by Trump and his supporters such as those by Giuliani. The documentary showed the claims were false. If that is anti-Trump then the documentary is anti-Trump. The documentary also looks at Jan 6th and what Trump's staff had say about it.
I believe ardent supporters of Trump were so convince that Trump would win the election and when he claimed it was stolen, it was an open invitation for his supports to find the evidence to support the president's claims. And they found plenty of very odd things going on. but never bothered to actually prove it was election fraud such as:
A video in the movie shows a worker loading the same ballots multiple times in a vote counting scanner. These ballots were of course assumed to be Biden votes. A fact that Trump's people never mentioned was that scanners often signal election workers that a batch of ballots has been misread and needs to be re-scanned.
Trump attacked New Dominion, who is a major supplier of voting machines in the US. Trump claimed that Trump votes were being switched to Biden votes by New Dominion equipment. This set off Trump supporters on a mission to prove that New Dominion was behind the big steal. A seminar was held in Arizona for legislators and the public to see proof the election was stolen by hacking New Dominion vote counting machines. What it proved was that it was possible for New Dominion to change votes on line. What was never mentioned was none of the voting equipment in the US was connected on line to New Dominion during the election or during the counting that followed. A lawsuit against Fox News by New Dominion resulted in Fox having to pay New Dominion 787 million dollars for knowingly broadcasting lies about New Dominion changing votes.
It was claimed in Georgia that vast number of dead people were voting. An investigation showed there were only 2 in the state. A later more extensive voter investigation came up with 4 out of 8 million voters, not the vast number claimed by Trump.
Three times Giuliani promise the republican Speaker of the House in Arizona that he would provide evidence to support his claims of massive voter fraud in the state and three times he failed to do so.
There were many other claims of election fraud that did not appear in the film such as the a mysterious truck parked in front of an election office in Georgia showing a person secretly carrying boxes of ballots at 2am to be counted which turns out to be empty ballot boxes being returned from the precincts to the election office. Then there was the video showing illegal immigrants standing in line to vote, in a precinct in California in which almost ever registered voter is Hispanic. Etc, Etc....
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And those charges will all go away if Trump is elected. However, what will never go away is the fact that he is a convicted felon, a proven liar, an adulterer, and a person of low moral character.
Rudy was asking the Arizona Speaker of the House to call a special session for the purpose of replacing the Biden electors with a slate of Trump electors because the election in Arizona was stolen due to election fraud. The Speaker asks if Rudy had proof and he said yes and would provide it but he failed to do so. Thus there was no special session.
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Harris will not be any worst president than any of the democrat president we have had over last 50 years.
I really don't understand why you don't see Trump as a real and present danger to the county. He is a pathologically liar. He is becoming senile but the real dangers is he does not trust his own people. He promise that we hire people he can trust when elected. Do you know what that means? He want yes men that will support him without question. With two major wars and China threatening Taiwan, the last thing this country needs is an ego manic who trusts his intuition over the advice of others. He is the only president that suspended National Security briefing during most of his term as president. I really believe Trump will get us in a war. With his past comments about using nuclear weapons. It very well could be the big one, if there is no one in the Whitehouse to oppose him.
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martybegan
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She won't be the real President if elected, it will be whoever her advisors are.
That you can come up with that exaggerating screed shows you don't want to even begin to understand.
That is a Prog Socialist Communist owned TV station. Most of them are.
Until Trump came along, every president tried to find the best and brightest in their field to advise him. Most every decisions of importance was done with the counsel of advisors who have in-depth knowledge in their field. In Trump's first term, he hired a powerful team of advisors listen to them and as he has said, he followed his instincts and when his advisors opposed him, he fired them or forced them to resign. 92% of his staff was gone before the end of his term in office.
So is Trump promising to hire best and brightest to advise him. When asked, he said, "I'm going to find people I can trust, that will be loyal so I can get the job done." Responding to questions on stopping the weekly Intelligence briefings, he says, "I get what I need to know from CNN."
This fool will take us to war. .
RoshawnMarkwees
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There’s a big, big difference between a president having advisors and a democrat communist cabal appointing mouthpieces/figureheads.
Concerned American
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Believe your lying eyes. Four years of Trump, NO new wars, peace accords between Arab nations and Israel, N. Korea was quiet. Four years of Biden--a botched withdrawal from Afghanistan, war in Ukraine, war in Israel, threats of war from N. Korea, threats of war from China, and a budding WW III. The fools you installed in the WH in 2020 have done that. SMH, FOOL.
He never had any evidence of anything. Due to an unshakeable believe that Trump won the election possibilities became his evidence.
I thought I might get an intelligent rebuttal. Guess not
Concerned American
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You're incapable of recognizing intelligence. You are too wrapped up in your fantasy world to be aware of what is happening before your own eyes.
Yes. It would have been better if there had some intelligent rebuttal. However, I do wonder whether there is any evidence to support the Trump claim. Owning to the fact that there are over 100,000 polling places, thousands of vote counting centers, and over 140,000,000 voters there are always going to lots of anomalies that could be construed to be election fraud. Remember the postal truck carrying ballots in a ditch, a truck parked at 2am with a man carrying ballot boxes into an election office as votes were being counted, a large group of Hispanics in front of a polling place, etc, etc, etc, All of these and thousands more investigated and found evidence of nothing.
Could it be that there is no one who is willing to go to prison for many years for election fraud that would likely make no difference in the election outcome?
When someone says the democrat advisors to a president are part of a communist cabal, that is about as intelligent as the statement that Trump is a leader of Nazi movements in America.
C_Clayton_Jones
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True.
Of course, Trump Cult members will refuse to watch, refuse to acknowledge facts and the truth, and remail willfully ignorant.
Are you trying blame Biden for the Israeli War or the Ukraine war that started in 2014? If you are, you're not doing a very good job of it.
RoshawnMarkwees
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I gave you a detailed, specific response.
Concerned American
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Obama was POTUS in 2014 and he did nothing to discourage Putin from unilaterally annexing Crimea. Let me remind you who his VP was. There was also four years of peace in Ukraine prior to Russia's invasion during the BIDEN admin. As for Israel. I do not believe Hamas would have been so bold as to sneak attack Israel with Trump at the helm of the US. Iran was quiet. Try again.
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