Have gun will travel. States to export both their gun laws and their abortion laws.

What you cite is and has always been the law. One state can't interfere in another states affairs. If one state allows it's people to smoke pot, that's not the business of other states. But the legality stops at the border.

Yet you have states that want people to have the same gun laws apply when they travel. Such as somebody from Florida traveling to New York, wants to take their concealed carry privilege with them.
Right, but you're looking at the wrong way.

It is now legal in Texas to manufacture and use a silencer (only subject to federal laws). How long do you think it's going to take for us to change our laws to where we can manufacture and use machine guns.

The only thing left to do is to repeal or shoot down the NFA, and Texans get machine guns.

Who is to stop someone from traveling to Texas and legally purchasing a suppressor or machine gun?
 
Texas is using civil, instead of criminal law to prosecute. Example, if a woman 7 weeks pregnant, books a flight to New York for an abortion, the travel agent has abetted that abortion, and any citizen can sue the abettor for a minimum of $10,000.

Having the citizens prosecute through civil action instead of the state prosecuting through criminal action. That's how they got around it being struck down.

Allowing for a lawsuit to be brought and such a lawsuit ever being successful are two entirely different things.

Has such a lawsuit been successfully adjudicated?
 
Let's say Arizona bans abortion completely and California permits it. If a woman travels Tucson to San Diego and gets an abortion, the woman hasn't broken any law in the state of Arizona. There's absolutely no grounds on which she could be prosecuted for anything...

I've pointed out the Texas law, which means anyone who aids or abets their traveling from Dallas to San Diego can be sued for a minimum of $10,000. Whether it's the travel agent, or the Uber driver, or Planned Parenthood setting up the appointment.
 
Right, but you're looking at the wrong way.

It is now legal in Texas to manufacture and use a silencer (only subject to federal laws). How long do you think it's going to take for us to change our laws to where we can manufacture and use machine guns.

The only thing left to do is to repeal or shoot down the NFA, and Texans get machine guns.

Who is to stop someone from traveling to Texas and legally purchasing a suppressor or machine gun?

Well, the issue there would be whether or not a suppressor or machine gun is legal in the person's home state. If the person buys it and never returns home, I guess he's in good shape...
 
Texas is using civil, instead of criminal law to prosecute. Example, if a woman 7 weeks pregnant, books a flight to New York for an abortion, the travel agent has abetted that abortion, and any citizen can sue the abettor for a minimum of $10,000.

Having the citizens prosecute through civil action instead of the state prosecuting through criminal action. That's how they got around it being struck down.
Why don't you go ask California about it? They have all sorts of qui tam laws.

you realize that if this gets shot down at the Supreme Court level, all of those California qui tam laws go with it, right?
 
Sure, yeah, that exists in Texas.

Has anyone been successfully sued yet? Has that law stood up to legal challenges?
It was challenged in the USSC, and the court let the law go into effect. They didn't even put a temporary stay on it, so they could think about it.
 
I've pointed out the Texas law, which means anyone who aids or abets their traveling from Dallas to San Diego can be sued for a minimum of $10,000. Whether it's the travel agent, or the Uber driver, or Planned Parenthood setting up the appointment.

Again, has any such case gone before the court and been successful?

When you sue someone in civil court for damages, you need to show that you actually suffered damages. How is someone from Houston going to suffer if a woman they don't know, who lives in Amarillo, travels to Las Vegas and gets an abortion?
 
Well, the issue there would be whether or not a suppressor or machine gun is legal in the person's home state. If the person buys it and never returns home, I guess he's in good shape...
But the reasoning behind a complete ban on everybody is because someone might travel to Texas purchase a machine gun legally and return to their home state with an illegal weapon.

We are setting that argument to fail in the future.

We are using the recent trend in pot rebellion to effectively eliminate the NFA.
 
It was challenged in the USSC, and the court let the law go into effect. They didn't even put a temporary stay on it, so they could think about it.
They did that because there was no actual case in controversy. Nobody had actually been successfully sued and then appealed it. They don't make advisory opinions.
 
How long do you think it's going to take for us to change our laws to where we can manufacture and use machine guns.

I hate to tell you, but on a federal level (which means except states that explicitly ban it) the manufacture and use of machine guns is legal. It only requires the proper licenses and permits in order to do so.
 
But the reasoning behind a complete ban on everybody is because someone might travel to Texas purchase a machine gun legally and return to their home state with an illegal weapon.

We are setting that argument to fail in the future.

We are using the recent trend in pot rebellion to effectively eliminate the NFA.

Right, but in your scenario you're talking about possessing something which is illegal to possess in many states.

No one really possesses an abortion...
 
Why don't you go ask California about it? They have all sorts of qui tam laws.

you realize that if this gets shot down at the Supreme Court level, all of those California qui tam laws go with it, right?

Those laws don't provide an automatic $10,000 payout plus legal fees, and immunity from the defendant seeking legal fees.
 
Actually the supreme court had the chance to enjoin it, but refused, allowing the Texas law to go into effect. The USSC gave it their stamp of approval.
No SCOTUS simply refused to short-circuit the legal system. Under a constitionalist majority, the court is operating the way it was designed. A case has to wind its way through the state courts, then the federal appeals courts before SCOTUS can consider it.
 
Right, but in your scenario you're talking about possessing something which is illegal to possess in many states.

No one really possesses an abortion...
We have had countless arguments with gun-grabbing communists that "lax" gun laws in one state causes violence in another state (see Chicago). This is the argument used for maintaining the NFA and for a national "assault weapons" ban.

We are using abortion to fuck them up the ass and they are falling for it hook, line, and sinker.
 
Again, has any such case gone before the court and been successful?

When you sue someone in civil court for damages, you need to show that you actually suffered damages. How is someone from Houston going to suffer if a woman they don't know, who lives in Amarillo, travels to Las Vegas and gets an abortion?


Texas' 6-week abortion ban goes into effect after Supreme Court stays silent

In addition to outlawing abortion as early as six weeks into a pregnancy — before most women know they're pregnant — the measure allows private citizens to bring civil lawsuits against anyone who provides an abortion after six weeks or helps a woman access the procedure, such as a friend who drives a woman to obtain an abortion, or clinic staff. Those found in violation of the law are required to pay at least $10,000 to the person who successfully brought the suit.

Miller said the law creates a "bounty system," under which anyone in Texas can "call into question anyone who supports access to abortion."


The person suing only need prove the person got an abortion after the 6 week limit, and how someone aided or abetted the abortion.

And Ka-ching… $10,000. And if they lose they pay nothing.
 
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Those laws don't provide an automatic $10,000 payout plus legal fees, and immunity from the defendant seeking legal fees.
I have no earthly idea why you think that matters.

Qui tam is going down and there's nothing you can do about it.

This is how Texas bitch slaps California.

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