Has this economist REALLY did an analysis of what Trump's mass deportation of illegal migrants savings might BE ?

[healthmyths]

This economist said:
“Leaving aside the human issues, leaving aside the law issues, we think that would be very destructive economically,” said Adam Posen, the president of the Peterson Institute for International Economics. “I don’t think people have really understood how potentially big that effect is.”

What Trump’s Mass Deportations Would Mean for the U.S. Economy

The economic costs of such a campaign may be bigger than the president-elect has bargained for.

foreignpolicy.com

I'm 100% confident he didn't consider these FACTORS!
A) The cost to federal government for the Border Crisis by 8,424,000 illegal migrants: $150.7 Billion or 2% of Federal spending of $6.75 Trillion

Fiscal Data Explains Federal Spending

Check out @FiscalService Fiscal Data’s new federal spending page! #FederalSpending

fiscaldata.treasury.gov

https://www.congress.gov/118/meeting/house/117257/witnesses/HHRG-118-BU00-Wstate-KirchnerJ-20240508.pdf

“The federal government spent over $66 billion on illegal immigrants in 2023

CBO: Medicaid Spending on Illegal Aliens Has Cost Taxpayers over $16.2 Billion Under Open Border Czar Harris | The U.S. House Committee on the Budget - House Budget Committee

The Official U.S. Congressional website of The Republican Budget Committee

budget.house.gov

B) 8,424,000 Undocumented immigrants paid in federal taxes, $59.4 billion,

Tax Payments by Undocumented Immigrants

Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes in 2022. Providing access to work authorization for undocumented immigrants would increase their tax contributions both because their wages would rise and because their rates of tax compliance would increase.

itep.org

C) States and local governments pay billions of dollars each year to care for illegal immigrants, including for

• Education
  K-12 education for the children of illegal aliens costs taxpayers about $70 billion per year.
• Medical care
  States pay hospitals to provide emergency services to some unauthorized residents through a program called Emergency Medicaid. In total, states and the federal government spent $5 billion on Emergency Medicaid for noncitizen immigrants between 2017 and 2023.

States and local governments spend annually nearly $75 billion a year in education and Medical care.
So the NET effect is not spending $66 billion on illegals and reducing Federal income taxes of $59.4 billion would be an over $6 Billion savings!
AND states/local governments lower their spending by $75 billion a year!
So Mr. Economist: You say the costs will increase for goods and services because the deportation of 8,424,000 illegal workers it is possible then the Employers won't have to pay education/medical care in state/local taxes or Federal taxes.

 

[1srelluc]

Ivory tower "economist" says what?

An ivory tower is a state of privileged seclusion from the practicalities of real life.

 

[Contumacious]

This economist said:
“Leaving aside the human issues, leaving aside the law issues, we think that would be very destructive economically,” said Adam Posen, the president of the Peterson Institute for International Economics. “I don’t think people have really understood how potentially big that effect is.”

What Trump’s Mass Deportations Would Mean for the U.S. Economy

The economic costs of such a campaign may be bigger than the president-elect has bargained for.

foreignpolicy.com

I'm 100% confident he didn't consider these FACTORS!
A) The cost to federal government for the Border Crisis by 8,424,000 illegal migrants: $150.7 Billion or 2% of Federal spending of $6.75 Trillion

Fiscal Data Explains Federal Spending

Check out @FiscalService Fiscal Data’s new federal spending page! #FederalSpending

fiscaldata.treasury.gov

https://www.congress.gov/118/meeting/house/117257/witnesses/HHRG-118-BU00-Wstate-KirchnerJ-20240508.pdf

“The federal government spent over $66 billion on illegal immigrants in 2023

CBO: Medicaid Spending on Illegal Aliens Has Cost Taxpayers over $16.2 Billion Under Open Border Czar Harris | The U.S. House Committee on the Budget - House Budget Committee

The Official U.S. Congressional website of The Republican Budget Committee

budget.house.gov

B) 8,424,000 Undocumented immigrants paid in federal taxes, $59.4 billion,

Tax Payments by Undocumented Immigrants

Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes in 2022. Providing access to work authorization for undocumented immigrants would increase their tax contributions both because their wages would rise and because their rates of tax compliance would increase.

itep.org

C) States and local governments pay billions of dollars each year to care for illegal immigrants, including for

• Education
  K-12 education for the children of illegal aliens costs taxpayers about $70 billion per year.
• Medical care
  States pay hospitals to provide emergency services to some unauthorized residents through a program called Emergency Medicaid. In total, states and the federal government spent $5 billion on Emergency Medicaid for noncitizen immigrants between 2017 and 2023.

States and local governments spend annually nearly $75 billion a year in education and Medical care.
So the NET effect is not spending $66 billion on illegals and reducing Federal income taxes of $59.4 billion would be an over $6 Billion savings!
AND states/local governments lower their spending by $75 billion a year!
So Mr. Economist: You say the costs will increase for goods and services because the deportation of 8,424,000 illegal workers it is possible then the Employers won't have to pay education/medical care in state/local taxes or Federal taxes.

The Absurdity of “Open Borders”​

By Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr.
July 1, 2024

The Absurdity of 'Open Borders' - LewRockwell

Some libertarians argue that libertarianism requires support for “open borders,” but this is a mistake. “Open borders” is the view in the existing world of states, the state ought to admit as many people who want to come to the United States as possible. Of course, you don’t have the right to...

www.lewrockwell.com

 

[jwoodie]

Economics is a subset of Alchemy.

 

[boevans]

His mass deportation, shut border, and tariffs are going to drive the GOP into the minority in 2026 in the Congress.

 

[Delldude]

This economist said:
“Leaving aside the human issues, leaving aside the law issues, we think that would be very destructive economically,” said Adam Posen, the president of the Peterson Institute for International Economics. “I don’t think people have really understood how potentially big that effect is.”

What Trump’s Mass Deportations Would Mean for the U.S. Economy

The economic costs of such a campaign may be bigger than the president-elect has bargained for.

foreignpolicy.com

I'm 100% confident he didn't consider these FACTORS!
A) The cost to federal government for the Border Crisis by 8,424,000 illegal migrants: $150.7 Billion or 2% of Federal spending of $6.75 Trillion

Fiscal Data Explains Federal Spending

Check out @FiscalService Fiscal Data’s new federal spending page! #FederalSpending

fiscaldata.treasury.gov

https://www.congress.gov/118/meeting/house/117257/witnesses/HHRG-118-BU00-Wstate-KirchnerJ-20240508.pdf

“The federal government spent over $66 billion on illegal immigrants in 2023

CBO: Medicaid Spending on Illegal Aliens Has Cost Taxpayers over $16.2 Billion Under Open Border Czar Harris | The U.S. House Committee on the Budget - House Budget Committee

The Official U.S. Congressional website of The Republican Budget Committee

budget.house.gov

B) 8,424,000 Undocumented immigrants paid in federal taxes, $59.4 billion,

Tax Payments by Undocumented Immigrants

Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes in 2022. Providing access to work authorization for undocumented immigrants would increase their tax contributions both because their wages would rise and because their rates of tax compliance would increase.

itep.org

C) States and local governments pay billions of dollars each year to care for illegal immigrants, including for

• Education
  K-12 education for the children of illegal aliens costs taxpayers about $70 billion per year.
• Medical care
  States pay hospitals to provide emergency services to some unauthorized residents through a program called Emergency Medicaid. In total, states and the federal government spent $5 billion on Emergency Medicaid for noncitizen immigrants between 2017 and 2023.

States and local governments spend annually nearly $75 billion a year in education and Medical care.
So the NET effect is not spending $66 billion on illegals and reducing Federal income taxes of $59.4 billion would be an over $6 Billion savings!
AND states/local governments lower their spending by $75 billion a year!
So Mr. Economist: You say the costs will increase for goods and services because the deportation of 8,424,000 illegal workers it is possible then the Employers won't have to pay education/medical care in state/local taxes or Federal taxes.

Don't forget we provide the tax dollars, not any government.

 

[JGalt]

This economist said:
“Leaving aside the human issues, leaving aside the law issues, we think that would be very destructive economically,” said Adam Posen, the president of the Peterson Institute for International Economics. “I don’t think people have really understood how potentially big that effect is.”

What Trump’s Mass Deportations Would Mean for the U.S. Economy

The economic costs of such a campaign may be bigger than the president-elect has bargained for.

foreignpolicy.com

I'm 100% confident he didn't consider these FACTORS!
A) The cost to federal government for the Border Crisis by 8,424,000 illegal migrants: $150.7 Billion or 2% of Federal spending of $6.75 Trillion

Fiscal Data Explains Federal Spending

Check out @FiscalService Fiscal Data’s new federal spending page! #FederalSpending

fiscaldata.treasury.gov

https://www.congress.gov/118/meeting/house/117257/witnesses/HHRG-118-BU00-Wstate-KirchnerJ-20240508.pdf

“The federal government spent over $66 billion on illegal immigrants in 2023

CBO: Medicaid Spending on Illegal Aliens Has Cost Taxpayers over $16.2 Billion Under Open Border Czar Harris | The U.S. House Committee on the Budget - House Budget Committee

The Official U.S. Congressional website of The Republican Budget Committee

budget.house.gov

B) 8,424,000 Undocumented immigrants paid in federal taxes, $59.4 billion,

Tax Payments by Undocumented Immigrants

Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes in 2022. Providing access to work authorization for undocumented immigrants would increase their tax contributions both because their wages would rise and because their rates of tax compliance would increase.

itep.org

C) States and local governments pay billions of dollars each year to care for illegal immigrants, including for

• Education
  K-12 education for the children of illegal aliens costs taxpayers about $70 billion per year.
• Medical care
  States pay hospitals to provide emergency services to some unauthorized residents through a program called Emergency Medicaid. In total, states and the federal government spent $5 billion on Emergency Medicaid for noncitizen immigrants between 2017 and 2023.

States and local governments spend annually nearly $75 billion a year in education and Medical care.
So the NET effect is not spending $66 billion on illegals and reducing Federal income taxes of $59.4 billion would be an over $6 Billion savings!
AND states/local governments lower their spending by $75 billion a year!
So Mr. Economist: You say the costs will increase for goods and services because the deportation of 8,424,000 illegal workers it is possible then the Employers won't have to pay education/medical care in state/local taxes or Federal taxes.

They're going to say whatever their Trump-hating liberal agenda dictates them to say.

 

[healthmyths]

His mass deportation, shut border, and tariffs are going to drive the GOP into the minority in 2026 in the Congress.

His mass deportation, shut border, and tariffs are going to drive the GOP into the minority in 2026 in the Congress.

FACTS:

Sharply More Americans Want to Curb Immigration to U.S.​

55% want immigration levels reduced, highest since 2001

Sharply More Americans Want to Curb Immigration to U.S.

For the first time in nearly two decades, a majority of Americans think immigration to the U.S. should be decreased.

news.gallup.com

SCRIPPS NEWS/IPSOS POLL REVEALS A MAJORITY OF AMERICANS SUPPORT MASS DEPORTATION OF UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS​

• majority of Republicans (86%) support mass deportations, as do a quarter of Democrats (25%). Overall, 54% of voters support the policy proposal, while 42% oppose it.
• More Republicans are also concerned about non-citizens voting illegally (86%). Independents were also far more likely (46%) than Democrats (25%) to feel the same.

Scripps News/Ipsos poll reveals a majority of Americans support mass deportation of undocumented immigrants - Scripps

A majority of Americans support the mass deportation of undocumented immigrants, according to a new Scripps News/Ipsos survey, including 25% of self-identified Democrats.

scripps.com

U.S. support for tariffs between the U.S. and its trading partners 2021, by party​

Published by Statista Research Department, Jul 5, 2024
According to a July 2021 survey, roughly two-thirds of respondents who identified as Republicans thought that the United States should increase tariffs to promote prominent industries in the country.

Share of Americans who support tariffs by party 2021 | Statista

According to a July 2021 survey, roughly two-thirds of respondents who identified as Republicans thought that the United States should increase tariffs to promote prominent industries in the country.

www.statista.com

FACTS... NOT GUESSES..... PLEASE provide FACTS... not your guesses, or personal subjective and generally UNINFORMED opinions! Means ZERO!

 

[boevans]

Only give us facts, healthmyths, instead of your guesses and hopes.

Happy Thanksgiving.

 

[Woodznutz]

Not everything is about money.

 

[luiza]

“Leaving aside the human issues, leaving aside the law issues, we think that would be very destructive economically,” said Adam Posen, the president of the Peterson Institute for International Economics.

A bit like broken Physics that cannot see the overriding importance of Consciousness .

This pea brain thinks economic issues outweigh human ones .

More like A Damned Poser than Adam Posen .
Fruit Cake .

 

[DGS49]

A very wise person noted many years ago that if you took all the Economists in the world an laid them end-to-end, they wouldn't reach a conclusion. For every Economist you find who thinks Trump's tariffs and "mass deportation" will cause an economic catastrophe I can find one who will say that they will be a boon to American business and prosperity. So what? Half of them will be proven right in a couple years. Maybe.

Trump's "mass deportations" should be viewed as a similar phenomenon to global warming. It happens so gradually that nobody notices. There are not going to be boxcars filled with wailing, brown-skinned people headed South. There will be individual people identified, and processes and procedures to go through for each one of them, and like the Death Penalty, the deportation will happen........sometime, and nobody will notice a damn thing,

 

[healthmyths]

Only give us facts, healthmyths, instead of your guesses and hopes.

Happy Thanksgiving.

Geez how dumb!

FACTS: Sharply More Americans Want to Curb Immigration to U.S.

55% want immigration levels reduced, highest since 2001 Sharply More Americans Want to Curb Immigration to U.S. SCRIPPS NEWS/IPSOS POLL REVEALS A MAJORITY OF AMERICANS SUPPORT MASS DEPORTATION OF UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS

majority of Republicans (86%) support mass deportations, as do a quarter of Democrats (25%). Overall, 54% of voters support the policy proposal, while 42% oppose it. More Republicans are also concerned about non-citizens voting illegally (86%). Independents were also far more likely (46%) than Democrats (25%) to feel the same. Scripps News/Ipsos poll reveals a majority of Americans support mass deportation of undocumented immigrants - Scripps

U.S. support for tariffs between the U.S. and its trading partners 2021, by party

Published by Statista Research Department, Jul 5, 2024 According to a July 2021 survey, roughly two-thirds of respondents who identified as Republicans thought that the United States should increase tariffs to promote prominent industries in the country. Share of Americans who support tariffs by party 2021 | Statista

FACTS... NOT GUESSES..... PLEASE provide FACTS... not your guesses, or personal subjective and generally UNINFORMED opinions! Means ZERO!

 

[healthmyths]

A very wise person noted many years ago that if you took all the Economists in the world an laid them end-to-end, they wouldn't reach a conclusion. For every Economist you find who thinks Trump's tariffs and "mass deportation" will cause an economic catastrophe I can find one who will say that they will be a boon to American business and prosperity. So what? Half of them will be proven right in a couple years. Maybe.

Trump's "mass deportations" should be viewed as a similar phenomenon to global warming. It happens so gradually that nobody notices. There are not going to be boxcars filled with wailing, brown-skinned people headed South. There will be individual people identified, and processes and procedures to go through for each one of them, and like the Death Penalty, the deportation will happen........sometime, and nobody will notice a damn thing,

I agree and the biased MSM as well as TDS people keep forgetting Trump's initial effort to remove CRIMINAL Illegal immigrants, i.e. the ones causing crimes like rape, drug use, murders etc. These should never had been allowed in but Biden's first day in office in 2021 was to cancel Wall construction! Especially after he said the following that all immigrants heard and repeated!

Biden told the illegals..." surge to the border, "


This is what caused many deaths by murder, hundred of thousands by drugs!

 

[boevans]

healthmyths lies never succeed.

 

[Orangecat]

Has this economist REALLY did an analysis of what Trump's mass deportation of illegal migrants savings might BE ?​

*done

 

[healthmyths]

healthmyths lies never succeed.

What in the exact words of Biden is a "LIE"???
"I would, in fact, make sure that there is, we immediate surge to the border, "

Now some of you truly dumb people say Biden meant border patrols would "surge"! And maybe he did!
But the illegals only heard Biden say..." immediate surge to the border,"!
This phrase helped justify these numbers of illegals!

Ten Charts Compare Joe Biden’s Record With Donald Trump’s

Comparing illegal immigration encounters at the south-western border under Trump and Biden the Economist argues "This is a clear win for Mr. Trump."

www.edwardconard.com

 

[boevans]

That is not a lie. Because other events interfered, the intent and purpose of lying is never involved.

 

[Delldude]

That is not a lie. Because other events interfered, the intent and purpose of lying is never involved.

The part where said 'he'd preserve, protect and defend the COTUS' was an outright lie.

 

[boevans]

He did. He kept Trump away as long as he could and has installed safeguards against the next term of Trump.