Zebra
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at the last supper Jesus drank wine
Zone1 harmful impurities
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The correct verses that forbid wine in the Bible are clear, so why leave them and go to the questionable verses?
The Bible, as I said, is distorted when it describes the prophets and Christ drinking wine and behaving without their minds. This is a mistake.
Because the prophets communicate the word of God to the people, so would God send a drunken prophet who does not know what to say?
Muslims respect the prophets and defend their honor and dignity, especially the Prophet Christ,
The prophets are innocent of spreading corruption on earth because they are the most honorable people and God's messengers on earth
You prefer and believe the parts of the Bible that say Jesus drank corrupting wine both in the Passover Feast and the Last Supper, and you believe the people who describe him as a drunkard
That's your business
Miracle at Cana in Galilee
These are forged texts written by someone with an interest in the sale and consumption of alcohol.
Not to mention the economic, psychological, social, and medical effects of alcohol.
God wants us to do good by protecting society from poisons such as alcohol, usury, adultery, gambling, and drugs.
God has categorically forbidden alcohol. The prophets from Adam to the Seal of the Prophets, Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, did not drink it.
The Epistle of Paul the Apostle to the Romans
Romans 14:21
Romans 14:21. ESV It is good not to eat meat or drink wine or do anything that causes your brother to stumble. NIV It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother or sister to fall.
The Qur’an is the final revelation that corrects the previous books and clarifies the correct parts in them that suit the interests of the people
The Qur’an forbids drinking alcohol, fornication, usury, gambling, drugs, and forbidden relationships, and calls for the worship of the One God, not idolatry or human worship.
Islam protects humanity from dangers that modern systems and other religions have failed to treat
Islam succeeded in solving these problems. Once a person embraces Islam, he refrains from these things that harm him and harm society
Therefore, Islam is worth studying now
see here
Alcohol and Pork prohibited in the Qur'an and the Bible - by Dr. Zakir Naik
Harvard Professor Just PROVED Prophet's Hadith With SCIENCE!
Pro Boxer Jake Henty Sacrificed Everything FOR ISLAM!
How He ﷺ Dealt with His Enemies | Muhammad ﷺ the Best Example #14 | Imam Nadim Bashir
The Bible, as I said, is distorted when it describes the prophets and Christ drinking wine and behaving without their minds. This is a mistake.
Because the prophets communicate the word of God to the people, so would God send a drunken prophet who does not know what to say?
Muslims respect the prophets and defend their honor and dignity, especially the Prophet Christ,
The prophets are innocent of spreading corruption on earth because they are the most honorable people and God's messengers on earth
You prefer and believe the parts of the Bible that say Jesus drank corrupting wine both in the Passover Feast and the Last Supper, and you believe the people who describe him as a drunkard
That's your business
Miracle at Cana in Galilee
These are forged texts written by someone with an interest in the sale and consumption of alcohol.
Not to mention the economic, psychological, social, and medical effects of alcohol.
God wants us to do good by protecting society from poisons such as alcohol, usury, adultery, gambling, and drugs.
God has categorically forbidden alcohol. The prophets from Adam to the Seal of the Prophets, Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, did not drink it.
The Epistle of Paul the Apostle to the Romans
Romans 14:21
Romans 14:21. ESV It is good not to eat meat or drink wine or do anything that causes your brother to stumble. NIV It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother or sister to fall.
The Qur’an is the final revelation that corrects the previous books and clarifies the correct parts in them that suit the interests of the people
The Qur’an forbids drinking alcohol, fornication, usury, gambling, drugs, and forbidden relationships, and calls for the worship of the One God, not idolatry or human worship.
Islam protects humanity from dangers that modern systems and other religions have failed to treat
Islam succeeded in solving these problems. Once a person embraces Islam, he refrains from these things that harm him and harm society
Therefore, Islam is worth studying now
see here
Alcohol and Pork prohibited in the Qur'an and the Bible - by Dr. Zakir Naik
Harvard Professor Just PROVED Prophet's Hadith With SCIENCE!
Pro Boxer Jake Henty Sacrificed Everything FOR ISLAM!
How He ﷺ Dealt with His Enemies | Muhammad ﷺ the Best Example #14 | Imam Nadim Bashir
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The Gospels continue to mention incorrect things about the Prophet Jesus, peace be upon him
These gospels were manipulated by human hands in many parts of them
8-
Prince of Peace announces that he did not come for peace:
Prince of Peace announces that he did not come for peace, but he came with the sword
in order to
Family dismantle and increase conflicts between one family !!!
This is according to what was mentioned in Matthew 10:34-36
Christ said: (34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn
“‘a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
36
a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’[a]
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The god of love came to throw a fire on the ground !!!
Christ said: ((49 “I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled! [Luke 12: 49]
Is this division that will bring him inside the family and the fire that he throws on the ground from the parts of his love? How is the earth built in this way?
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The god of love is fire !!!
This is according to what was stated in the message of the Hebrews [12:29]: ( 29 for our “God is a consuming fire.”[a]
))
The god of love is stripped of mercy and he left his son be tormented without guilt
And the son screams in a loud voice, 46 About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,[a] lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).
? mathew [27: 46].
Prince of Peace asks to bring his opponents to slaughter them with the sword in front of him:
This is according to what was mentioned in Luke [19:27]:
Christ says: (( 27 But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me.’”
!))
قسيس من المكسسيك آتى خصيص لمناظرة مسلم فماذا فعل ؟
متحدث جديد يفاجئ الجميع بأسلوبه الهادئ وبلاغته في ركن الخطباء
الشيطان أول عنصري | حمزة في حوار جميل مع زائر اعتنق الإسلام لاحقاً
زائر أراد إثبات وجود خطأ علمي في القرآن فتم إثبات وجود إعجاز علمي به
ملحد يقول انتو المسلمين عباقرة! وثم يخشي أن يقرأ القرآن فيصبح مسلم متأثرا #sfdawahArabic #Sfdawah#
These gospels were manipulated by human hands in many parts of them
8-
Prince of Peace announces that he did not come for peace:
Prince of Peace announces that he did not come for peace, but he came with the sword
in order to
Family dismantle and increase conflicts between one family !!!
This is according to what was mentioned in Matthew 10:34-36
Christ said: (34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn
“‘a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
36
a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’[a]
\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
The god of love came to throw a fire on the ground !!!
Christ said: ((49 “I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled! [Luke 12: 49]
Is this division that will bring him inside the family and the fire that he throws on the ground from the parts of his love? How is the earth built in this way?
\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
The god of love is fire !!!
This is according to what was stated in the message of the Hebrews [12:29]: ( 29 for our “God is a consuming fire.”[a]
))
The god of love is stripped of mercy and he left his son be tormented without guilt
And the son screams in a loud voice, 46 About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,[a] lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).
? mathew [27: 46].
Prince of Peace asks to bring his opponents to slaughter them with the sword in front of him:
This is according to what was mentioned in Luke [19:27]:
Christ says: (( 27 But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me.’”
!))
قسيس من المكسسيك آتى خصيص لمناظرة مسلم فماذا فعل ؟
متحدث جديد يفاجئ الجميع بأسلوبه الهادئ وبلاغته في ركن الخطباء
الشيطان أول عنصري | حمزة في حوار جميل مع زائر اعتنق الإسلام لاحقاً
زائر أراد إثبات وجود خطأ علمي في القرآن فتم إثبات وجود إعجاز علمي به
ملحد يقول انتو المسلمين عباقرة! وثم يخشي أن يقرأ القرآن فيصبح مسلم متأثرا #sfdawahArabic #Sfdawah#
luiza
Diamond Member
I understand your irritation but that is a bit harsh on the Cult Christians .
They mean well and have no inkling how outdated and irrelevant they are now are .
Let them just gently drift into obscurity but agree that they were at least a step up on believing that natural elements were all various Gods .
presonorek
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We have to avoid these impurities.
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The calendar year of Islam begins not with the birthday of our prophet (peace be upon him) not from the time that the revelation came to him (Bethat) nor from the time of his ascension to heaven, but with the migration (Hijra) from an undesirable environment into a desirable place to fulfill Allah's command. It was migration from a plot that was set by the leaders of the Quraysh who were plotting to kill prophet Muhammad, and to destroy the truth that today is being conveyed to mankind everywhere against tyranny and injustice. Their purpose was to destroy the foundation of the Islamic state, the Sunnah of the tradition of the prophet, and to prevent the revelation being delivered by Allah's messenger to mankind.
The Islamic calendar is reckoned from the time of migration (Hijra) of Prophet Mohammad (Peace Be Upon Him) from Mecca to Madina. The Prophet's decision to migrate from Mecca came after several years of inhuman treatment of the faithful by the powerful tribes who were united despite all their feuds to stop the spread of Islam.
Prophet Mohammad's decision to leave Mecca coincided with the infidel's plan to assassinate him. In 622 AD, the Quresh tribesmen held a meeting and decided that a band of young men, one from each tribe, should assassinate Prophet Mohammad collectively so that their responsibility for the murder could not be placed on any particular tribe.
On the eventful night, the Prophet asked his cousin Ali Ben Abutalib to take his place in bed to make the Meccans think that he was asleep. The Prophet himself slipped out unobserved alongwith his loyal follower Abu Bakr (who was chosen as the first C aliph after the death of the prophet). They secretly made their way to a cave named Thawr, not far from Mecca and lay in hiding there for a day or two until Abu Bakr's son reported that the search for him had been given up. Then the two set out from Madina on camel back. They reached Quba, on the edge of the Madina oasis, on 12th Rabiul Awwal. With Mohammad's arrival in Quba a new phase of his career and glory of Islam started.
This migration has a special significance in the history of Islam. It ended the Meccan period of humiliation and torture and began the era of success. His own people to whom he preached Islam for 13 years neglected the Prophet of Islam. But he was cordially received in Madina as an honored chief.
In Madina his power enhanced day by day. Here he was not only the religious leader but took the role of a politician and statesman too. Prophet Mohammad expired ten years after his migration to Madina but only in one decade he changed the course of human history.
In view of this special significance of the Prophet's migration the consultative body advised the Second Islamic Caliph, Omar ben Khattab, to start the Islamic year from the date of migration of the Prophet from Mecca to Madina.
According to early Moslem scholars, Abu Musa Al Shari drew attention of Omar to an improperly dated debenture or IOU which was payable in the month of Shaban but it was not clear which Shaban was actually meant, the present one or the coming one. Omar called the dignitaries for consultation who made several suggestions to begin the Islamic calendar.
Ali (who later became the fourth caliph) suggested the Hijra as the beginning of the Islamic year with Moharram as its first month. Consequently, Caliph Omar in 21 A.H. or 641 A.D introduced the Islamic calendar in its present form.
QURANIC GUIDANCE
The guidance about the Islamic calendar is taken from the following verses from the Holy Quran: (In the name of GOD most gracious and most merciful)
"Lo the number of the months with God is twelve months." IX:36.
"They ask thee, of new moons. Say: They are fixed seasons for mankind and for the pilgrimage." II:189.
"He it is who appointed the sun a splendor and the moon a light, and measured for her stages, that ye might know the number of the years, and the reckoning." X:5
The Islamic Calendar of 12 Lunar Months is determined by observation of the new moon with no effort by intercalation (addition) or other means to synchronize the Lunar year with the Solar year.
Life Of The Final Messenger - Muhammad pbuh (Seerah) - 12 Hijrah (Migration) - Mufti Ismail Menk
Amir Ibn Fuhayra (ra): The Guide on the Hijrah | The Firsts | Dr. Omar Suleiman
ارادت ان تنتقد القرآن بلا فكر فحدث هذا | منصور ومجموعة من النصاري في ركن المتحثين |الدعوة بالعربية
The Islamic calendar is reckoned from the time of migration (Hijra) of Prophet Mohammad (Peace Be Upon Him) from Mecca to Madina. The Prophet's decision to migrate from Mecca came after several years of inhuman treatment of the faithful by the powerful tribes who were united despite all their feuds to stop the spread of Islam.
Prophet Mohammad's decision to leave Mecca coincided with the infidel's plan to assassinate him. In 622 AD, the Quresh tribesmen held a meeting and decided that a band of young men, one from each tribe, should assassinate Prophet Mohammad collectively so that their responsibility for the murder could not be placed on any particular tribe.
On the eventful night, the Prophet asked his cousin Ali Ben Abutalib to take his place in bed to make the Meccans think that he was asleep. The Prophet himself slipped out unobserved alongwith his loyal follower Abu Bakr (who was chosen as the first C aliph after the death of the prophet). They secretly made their way to a cave named Thawr, not far from Mecca and lay in hiding there for a day or two until Abu Bakr's son reported that the search for him had been given up. Then the two set out from Madina on camel back. They reached Quba, on the edge of the Madina oasis, on 12th Rabiul Awwal. With Mohammad's arrival in Quba a new phase of his career and glory of Islam started.
This migration has a special significance in the history of Islam. It ended the Meccan period of humiliation and torture and began the era of success. His own people to whom he preached Islam for 13 years neglected the Prophet of Islam. But he was cordially received in Madina as an honored chief.
In Madina his power enhanced day by day. Here he was not only the religious leader but took the role of a politician and statesman too. Prophet Mohammad expired ten years after his migration to Madina but only in one decade he changed the course of human history.
In view of this special significance of the Prophet's migration the consultative body advised the Second Islamic Caliph, Omar ben Khattab, to start the Islamic year from the date of migration of the Prophet from Mecca to Madina.
According to early Moslem scholars, Abu Musa Al Shari drew attention of Omar to an improperly dated debenture or IOU which was payable in the month of Shaban but it was not clear which Shaban was actually meant, the present one or the coming one. Omar called the dignitaries for consultation who made several suggestions to begin the Islamic calendar.
Ali (who later became the fourth caliph) suggested the Hijra as the beginning of the Islamic year with Moharram as its first month. Consequently, Caliph Omar in 21 A.H. or 641 A.D introduced the Islamic calendar in its present form.
QURANIC GUIDANCE
The guidance about the Islamic calendar is taken from the following verses from the Holy Quran: (In the name of GOD most gracious and most merciful)
"Lo the number of the months with God is twelve months." IX:36.
"They ask thee, of new moons. Say: They are fixed seasons for mankind and for the pilgrimage." II:189.
"He it is who appointed the sun a splendor and the moon a light, and measured for her stages, that ye might know the number of the years, and the reckoning." X:5
The Islamic Calendar of 12 Lunar Months is determined by observation of the new moon with no effort by intercalation (addition) or other means to synchronize the Lunar year with the Solar year.
Life Of The Final Messenger - Muhammad pbuh (Seerah) - 12 Hijrah (Migration) - Mufti Ismail Menk
Amir Ibn Fuhayra (ra): The Guide on the Hijrah | The Firsts | Dr. Omar Suleiman
ارادت ان تنتقد القرآن بلا فكر فحدث هذا | منصور ومجموعة من النصاري في ركن المتحثين |الدعوة بالعربية
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The Concept of Original Sin in Christianity
The concept of original sin simply does not exist in Islam, and never has. For the Christian readers, the question is not whether the concept of original sin exists in present day, but whether it existed during the period of Christian origins. Specifically, did Jesus teach it?
Apparently not. Whoever dreamt up the concept, it certainly wasn’t Jesus, for he reportedly taught, “Let the little children come to me, and do not forbid them, for of such is the kingdom of heaven” (Matthew 19:14). We may well wonder how “for of such” could be “the kingdom of heaven” if the unbaptized are hell?bound. Children are either born with original sin or are bound for the kingdom of heaven. The church can’t have it both ways. Ezekiel 18:20 records, “The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.”
The Islamic View of Sin: Not Inherited, But Earned
Deuteronomy 24:16 repeats the point. The objection may be raised that this is Old Testament, but it’s not older than Adam! If original sin dated from Adam and Eve, one wouldn’t find it disavowed in any scripture of any age!
Islam teaches that each person is born in a state of spiritual purity, but upbringing and the allure of worldly pleasures may corrupt us. Nonetheless, sins are not inherited and, for that matter, not even Adam and Eve will be punished for their sins, for God has forgiven them.
And how can humankind inherit something that no longer exists? No, Islamically speaking, all of us will be judged according to our deeds, for “man can have nothing but what he strives for” (TMQ 53:38–39), and “Who receives guidance, receives it for his own benefit: who goes astray does so to his own loss: no bearer of burdens can bear the burden of another . . .” (TMQ 17:15). Each person will bear responsibility for his or her actions, but no infant goes to hell for being unbaptized and burdened with sin as a birthright—or should we say a birthwrong?
assuming it was a sin, let us assume, for the sake of argument it was a sin, why should we be held responsible for it? If your grandfather killed somebody, is it okay for somebody to take you to court and say your grandfather killed somebody, you are liable for that? Is that compatible with God's Justice? Islam says this is not compatible with God Justice. 'Wa la taziru waziratun wizra ukhra' (39:7)
The Qur'an is very clear. You are responsible for what you do, not what your dad did, your mom did, your grandparents did. Let us say Adam and Eve committed a sin. Why should their children and descendants and all of humanity inherit the sin? It does not make sense. Why? Why is humanity being held liable and responsible for something they did not commit? Something their grandparents committed? So Islam rejects the idea of the original sin
The Original Sin (Islamic View) - Dr. Zakir Naik
سؤال فتاة بريطانية عن الحجاب يقودها إلى الإسلام
ما رأيك عن الشواذ؟ فتاة بريطانية تتحدى مسلم | ركن الخطباء
هذا ما حدث عند إجتماع عمالقة الدعوة! محمد علي ومنصور يفجّران الحقيقة في وجه الزائر!
"سأثبت أن الإسلام خطأ!" مسيحي يتحدى هاشم.. لكن الصدمة كانت قاسية! 
The concept of original sin simply does not exist in Islam, and never has. For the Christian readers, the question is not whether the concept of original sin exists in present day, but whether it existed during the period of Christian origins. Specifically, did Jesus teach it?
Apparently not. Whoever dreamt up the concept, it certainly wasn’t Jesus, for he reportedly taught, “Let the little children come to me, and do not forbid them, for of such is the kingdom of heaven” (Matthew 19:14). We may well wonder how “for of such” could be “the kingdom of heaven” if the unbaptized are hell?bound. Children are either born with original sin or are bound for the kingdom of heaven. The church can’t have it both ways. Ezekiel 18:20 records, “The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.”
The Islamic View of Sin: Not Inherited, But Earned
Deuteronomy 24:16 repeats the point. The objection may be raised that this is Old Testament, but it’s not older than Adam! If original sin dated from Adam and Eve, one wouldn’t find it disavowed in any scripture of any age!
Islam teaches that each person is born in a state of spiritual purity, but upbringing and the allure of worldly pleasures may corrupt us. Nonetheless, sins are not inherited and, for that matter, not even Adam and Eve will be punished for their sins, for God has forgiven them.
And how can humankind inherit something that no longer exists? No, Islamically speaking, all of us will be judged according to our deeds, for “man can have nothing but what he strives for” (TMQ 53:38–39), and “Who receives guidance, receives it for his own benefit: who goes astray does so to his own loss: no bearer of burdens can bear the burden of another . . .” (TMQ 17:15). Each person will bear responsibility for his or her actions, but no infant goes to hell for being unbaptized and burdened with sin as a birthright—or should we say a birthwrong?
assuming it was a sin, let us assume, for the sake of argument it was a sin, why should we be held responsible for it? If your grandfather killed somebody, is it okay for somebody to take you to court and say your grandfather killed somebody, you are liable for that? Is that compatible with God's Justice? Islam says this is not compatible with God Justice. 'Wa la taziru waziratun wizra ukhra' (39:7)
The Qur'an is very clear. You are responsible for what you do, not what your dad did, your mom did, your grandparents did. Let us say Adam and Eve committed a sin. Why should their children and descendants and all of humanity inherit the sin? It does not make sense. Why? Why is humanity being held liable and responsible for something they did not commit? Something their grandparents committed? So Islam rejects the idea of the original sin
The Original Sin (Islamic View) - Dr. Zakir Naik
سؤال فتاة بريطانية عن الحجاب يقودها إلى الإسلام
ما رأيك عن الشواذ؟ فتاة بريطانية تتحدى مسلم | ركن الخطباء
هذا ما حدث عند إجتماع عمالقة الدعوة! محمد علي ومنصور يفجّران الحقيقة في وجه الزائر!
"سأثبت أن الإسلام خطأ!" مسيحي يتحدى هاشم.. لكن الصدمة كانت قاسية! - Thread starter
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The Gospels continue to mention incorrect things about the Prophet Jesus, peace be upon him
These gospels were manipulated by human hands in many parts of them
9-
One of the morals of the Lord is that he was naked!!
Among the morals of the Lord is also that He was naked, stripped of clothes, in front of His disciples and Mary Magdalene at the Last Supper. What did the Bible want to teach you about this incident?
“ 4 so he got up from the meal, took off his outer clothing, and wrapped a towel around his waist. 5 After that, he poured water into a basin and began to wash his disciples’ feet, drying them with the towel that was wrapped around him.
.” (John 13:4-5)
God is naked in front of the Jews and humiliated
The writer of the Gospel of Matthew said about Christ:
27 gThen the soldiers of the governor took Jesus into the hgovernor’s headquarters,4 and they gathered the whole ibattalion5 before him. 28 And they stripped him and put ja scarlet robe on him, 29 and twisting together a crown of thorns, they put it on his head and put a reed in his right hand. And kneeling before him, they kmocked him, saying, “Hail, lKing of the Jews!”
قصة جميلة وحزينة لفتاة أمريكية اعتنقت الإسلام وتوجه رسالة للمسلمين
إلهكم حرضه الشيطان | شمسي في حوار هادئ مع إسر.ائيلي
شاب ينطق بالشهادة بعد أن ظل يمارس الإسلام في السر لمدة سنتين
These gospels were manipulated by human hands in many parts of them
9-
One of the morals of the Lord is that he was naked!!
Among the morals of the Lord is also that He was naked, stripped of clothes, in front of His disciples and Mary Magdalene at the Last Supper. What did the Bible want to teach you about this incident?
“ 4 so he got up from the meal, took off his outer clothing, and wrapped a towel around his waist. 5 After that, he poured water into a basin and began to wash his disciples’ feet, drying them with the towel that was wrapped around him.
.” (John 13:4-5)
God is naked in front of the Jews and humiliated
The writer of the Gospel of Matthew said about Christ:
27 gThen the soldiers of the governor took Jesus into the hgovernor’s headquarters,4 and they gathered the whole ibattalion5 before him. 28 And they stripped him and put ja scarlet robe on him, 29 and twisting together a crown of thorns, they put it on his head and put a reed in his right hand. And kneeling before him, they kmocked him, saying, “Hail, lKing of the Jews!”
قصة جميلة وحزينة لفتاة أمريكية اعتنقت الإسلام وتوجه رسالة للمسلمين
إلهكم حرضه الشيطان | شمسي في حوار هادئ مع إسر.ائيلي
شاب ينطق بالشهادة بعد أن ظل يمارس الإسلام في السر لمدة سنتين
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- #49
The Gospels continue to mention incorrect things about the Prophet Jesus, peace be upon him
These gospels were manipulated by human hands in many parts of them
10
Jesus affirmed the law and then abolished the law
Matthew 23:1-3 MSG
Now Jesus turned to address his disciples, along with the crowd that had gathered with them. “The religion scholars and Pharisees are competent teachers in God’s Law. You won’t go wrong in following their teachings on Moses. But be careful about following them. They talk a good line, but they don’t live it. They don’t take it into their hearts and live it out in their behavior. It’s all spit-and-polish veneer.
Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit,
Ephesians 5:18 ►
Then the first of his dazzling miracles will be making wine )
and distributing it to the guests at the wedding in Cana of Galilee!
Is this a prophet of God?! Or a bartender in a bar?!
شاب بلغاري يعتنق الإسلام بعد إقناع الدعاة له بنبوة سيدنا محمد
مسيحية تعتنق الإسلام مع الشيخ عثمان بعد اقتناعها بنبوة النبي محمد
لماذا تحدث الكتاب المقدس عن ظهور الزومبي؟ - حوار حمزة مع مسيحيين
These gospels were manipulated by human hands in many parts of them
10
Jesus affirmed the law and then abolished the law
Matthew 23:1-3 MSG
Now Jesus turned to address his disciples, along with the crowd that had gathered with them. “The religion scholars and Pharisees are competent teachers in God’s Law. You won’t go wrong in following their teachings on Moses. But be careful about following them. They talk a good line, but they don’t live it. They don’t take it into their hearts and live it out in their behavior. It’s all spit-and-polish veneer.
Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit,
Ephesians 5:18 ►
Then the first of his dazzling miracles will be making wine )
and distributing it to the guests at the wedding in Cana of Galilee!
Is this a prophet of God?! Or a bartender in a bar?!
شاب بلغاري يعتنق الإسلام بعد إقناع الدعاة له بنبوة سيدنا محمد
مسيحية تعتنق الإسلام مع الشيخ عثمان بعد اقتناعها بنبوة النبي محمد
لماذا تحدث الكتاب المقدس عن ظهور الزومبي؟ - حوار حمزة مع مسيحيين
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He not only drank it ... he made his own
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The correct verses that forbid wine in the Bible are clear, so why leave them and go to the questionable verses?
The Bible, as I said, is distorted when it describes the prophets and Christ drinking wine and behaving without their minds. This is a mistake.
Because the prophets communicate the word of God to the people, so would God send a drunken prophet who does not know what to say?
Muslims respect the prophets and defend their honor and dignity, especially the Prophet Christ,
The prophets are innocent of spreading corruption on earth because they are the most honorable people and God's messengers on earth
You prefer and believe the parts of the Bible that say Jesus drank corrupting wine both in the Passover Feast and the Last Supper, and you believe the people who describe him as a drunkard
That's your business
Miracle at Cana in Galilee
These are forged texts written by someone with an interest in the sale and consumption of alcohol.
Not to mention the economic, psychological, social, and medical effects of alcohol.
God wants us to do good by protecting society from poisons such as alcohol, usury, adultery, gambling, and drugs.
God has categorically forbidden alcohol. The prophets from Adam to the Seal of the Prophets, Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, did not drink it.
The Epistle of Paul the Apostle to the Romans
Romans 14:21
Romans 14:21. ESV It is good not to eat meat or drink wine or do anything that causes your brother to stumble. NIV It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother or sister to fall.
The Qur’an is the final revelation that corrects the previous books and clarifies the correct parts in them that suit the interests of the people
The Qur’an forbids drinking alcohol, fornication, usury, gambling, drugs, and forbidden relationships, and calls for the worship of the One God, not idolatry or human worship.
Islam protects humanity from dangers that modern systems and other religions have failed to treat
Islam succeeded in solving these problems. Once a person embraces Islam, he refrains from these things that harm him and harm society
Therefore, Islam is worth studying now
see here
Alcohol and Pork prohibited in the Qur'an and the Bible - by Dr. Zakir Naik
The Bible, as I said, is distorted when it describes the prophets and Christ drinking wine and behaving without their minds. This is a mistake.
Because the prophets communicate the word of God to the people, so would God send a drunken prophet who does not know what to say?
Muslims respect the prophets and defend their honor and dignity, especially the Prophet Christ,
The prophets are innocent of spreading corruption on earth because they are the most honorable people and God's messengers on earth
You prefer and believe the parts of the Bible that say Jesus drank corrupting wine both in the Passover Feast and the Last Supper, and you believe the people who describe him as a drunkard
That's your business
Miracle at Cana in Galilee
These are forged texts written by someone with an interest in the sale and consumption of alcohol.
Not to mention the economic, psychological, social, and medical effects of alcohol.
God wants us to do good by protecting society from poisons such as alcohol, usury, adultery, gambling, and drugs.
God has categorically forbidden alcohol. The prophets from Adam to the Seal of the Prophets, Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, did not drink it.
The Epistle of Paul the Apostle to the Romans
Romans 14:21
Romans 14:21. ESV It is good not to eat meat or drink wine or do anything that causes your brother to stumble. NIV It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother or sister to fall.
The Qur’an is the final revelation that corrects the previous books and clarifies the correct parts in them that suit the interests of the people
The Qur’an forbids drinking alcohol, fornication, usury, gambling, drugs, and forbidden relationships, and calls for the worship of the One God, not idolatry or human worship.
Islam protects humanity from dangers that modern systems and other religions have failed to treat
Islam succeeded in solving these problems. Once a person embraces Islam, he refrains from these things that harm him and harm society
Therefore, Islam is worth studying now
see here
Alcohol and Pork prohibited in the Qur'an and the Bible - by Dr. Zakir Naik
Zebra
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Why so many videos?
How? She was there trying to "take charge of him" because people were saying that he was out of his mind. How insulting was trying to "take charge" of a grown man in front of a group of people? What did she or you expect?
Anyway to honor your mother and father was a command to honor the mother of your body, the earth, and the father of your spirit, God. Many people are raised by abusive insane people who do not deserve to be honored.
Anyway he made it clear that his mother brother sister, his family, were those who hear the will of God and do it.
Capisci?
Am I telling you something that you didn't already know?
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Shit, he was recorded eating and drinking and partying with sinners and prostitutes, always in bad company, all of the time. I'm sure he was half crocked when he said some of those nutty things while flipping off the man.
He certainly wasn't partying with sinners and prostitutes and bad characters while drinking grape juice.
This is implied when it says that Jesus was tempted by the devil in the wilderness (outside the jurisdiction of Jewish law) among the wild beasts (the Romans) presumably doing exactly what Romans do in the wilderness.
He certainly wasn't a lonely ascetic having auditory and visual hallucinations in the middle of a barren desert.
He was partying like it was 1969.
If you learn to read between the lines you will discover a greater (than the greatest) story that has never been told.
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Zebra
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It appears from the statements of those who spoke about the corruption of Christianity that the Jewish Paul was the first who brought into Christianity that wine and pig are lawful. Hence, this was not in the Gospel that was revealed to ‘Eesa may Allaah exalt his mention.
No matter what names there are for alcohol, or even drinking a little of it, it always leads to immorality and the person becomes a drunkard, in addition to the physical and economic damage.
This is corruption on earth, and God does not grant people signs that would destroy them and encourage them to destroy themselves
“ Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks.” Isaiah 5: 22
Pr 31:4-5 "It is not for kings, O Lemuel, It is not for kings to drink wine, Nor for princes intoxicating drink; Lest they drink and forget the law, And pervert the justice of all the afflicted."
Realize that Alcoholics will not enter the kingdom of God.
"Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God." 1Cor 6:9,10
Did Jesus Turn Water Into Wine? | Dr. Shabir Ally
first miracle for Jesus in Bible
How the Bible Led Me to Islam: The Story of a Former Christian Youth Minister - Joshua Evans
AMERICAN ARMY COMMANDER CONVERT TO ISLAM
No matter what names there are for alcohol, or even drinking a little of it, it always leads to immorality and the person becomes a drunkard, in addition to the physical and economic damage.
This is corruption on earth, and God does not grant people signs that would destroy them and encourage them to destroy themselves
“ Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks.” Isaiah 5: 22
Pr 31:4-5 "It is not for kings, O Lemuel, It is not for kings to drink wine, Nor for princes intoxicating drink; Lest they drink and forget the law, And pervert the justice of all the afflicted."
Realize that Alcoholics will not enter the kingdom of God.
"Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God." 1Cor 6:9,10
Did Jesus Turn Water Into Wine? | Dr. Shabir Ally
first miracle for Jesus in Bible
How the Bible Led Me to Islam: The Story of a Former Christian Youth Minister - Joshua Evans
AMERICAN ARMY COMMANDER CONVERT TO ISLAM
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The Gospels continue to mention incorrect things about the Prophet Jesus, peace be upon him
These gospels were manipulated by human hands in many parts of them
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How do the Gospels lie and distort the image of Christ?
- Cruelty, hatred of nations and intolerance
“Jesus,” the supposed God of love who was incarnated for the sake of redemption of humanity, appears to us in the Bible as a racist fanatic for his nation. As for the nations, they look like “a few dogs.”
.. So ; From this point on ; We find him dealing with the utmost cruelty with the honorable Canaanite woman who turned to him in order to heal her daughter
In contrast to his gentleness and kind heart towards the Israeli prostitute, we find him harshly speaking to the Canaanite woman and not listening to her pleas and pleas until she acknowledged that she and her people were “dogs”! Only for “Jesus” to heal her daughter
The Gospel of Matthew...Chapter 15
"Jesus left that place and went away to the district of Tyre and Sidon. Just then a Canaanite woman from that region came out and started shouting, ‘Have mercy on me, Lord, Son of David; my daughter is tormented by a demon.’ But he did not answer her at all. And his disciples came and urged him, saying, ‘Send her away, for she keeps shouting after us.’ He answered, ‘I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.’ But she came and knelt before him, saying, ‘Lord, help me.’ He answered, ‘It is not fair to take the children’s food and throw it to the dogs.’ She said, ‘Yes, Lord, yet even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters’ table.’ Then Jesus answered her, ‘Woman, great is your faith! Let it be done for you as you wish.’ And her daughter was healed instantly” (Matthew 15:21-28).
It is strange after that to say that “Jesus” redeemed all nations with his pure blood.
We wonder if “Jesus” would have accepted to sacrifice a single drop of his blood for those whom he himself described as “a few dogs”??!!
شاب محترم يسأل عباس عن مِلك اليمين في الإسلام وإجابة رائعة
مسيحية تقول كلاماً صادماً حتى الشيخ أمسك رأسه من هول الصدمة
أول لقاء بين شمسي والمبشرة المسيحية كاي
العقيدة الإسلامية بسيطة | عثمان بن فاروق في حوار مع مسيحيين Speakers Corner | Hyde Park
شمسي يتجنب بصعوبة مصافحة سيدة بريطانية بعد إطلالة سريعة #sfdawahArabic#
These gospels were manipulated by human hands in many parts of them
11
How do the Gospels lie and distort the image of Christ?
- Cruelty, hatred of nations and intolerance
“Jesus,” the supposed God of love who was incarnated for the sake of redemption of humanity, appears to us in the Bible as a racist fanatic for his nation. As for the nations, they look like “a few dogs.”
.. So ; From this point on ; We find him dealing with the utmost cruelty with the honorable Canaanite woman who turned to him in order to heal her daughter
In contrast to his gentleness and kind heart towards the Israeli prostitute, we find him harshly speaking to the Canaanite woman and not listening to her pleas and pleas until she acknowledged that she and her people were “dogs”! Only for “Jesus” to heal her daughter
The Gospel of Matthew...Chapter 15
"Jesus left that place and went away to the district of Tyre and Sidon. Just then a Canaanite woman from that region came out and started shouting, ‘Have mercy on me, Lord, Son of David; my daughter is tormented by a demon.’ But he did not answer her at all. And his disciples came and urged him, saying, ‘Send her away, for she keeps shouting after us.’ He answered, ‘I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.’ But she came and knelt before him, saying, ‘Lord, help me.’ He answered, ‘It is not fair to take the children’s food and throw it to the dogs.’ She said, ‘Yes, Lord, yet even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters’ table.’ Then Jesus answered her, ‘Woman, great is your faith! Let it be done for you as you wish.’ And her daughter was healed instantly” (Matthew 15:21-28).
It is strange after that to say that “Jesus” redeemed all nations with his pure blood.
We wonder if “Jesus” would have accepted to sacrifice a single drop of his blood for those whom he himself described as “a few dogs”??!!
شاب محترم يسأل عباس عن مِلك اليمين في الإسلام وإجابة رائعة
مسيحية تقول كلاماً صادماً حتى الشيخ أمسك رأسه من هول الصدمة
أول لقاء بين شمسي والمبشرة المسيحية كاي
العقيدة الإسلامية بسيطة | عثمان بن فاروق في حوار مع مسيحيين Speakers Corner | Hyde Park
شمسي يتجنب بصعوبة مصافحة سيدة بريطانية بعد إطلالة سريعة #sfdawahArabic#
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In the New Testament, individuals worship Christ by offering gifts, prostrating at his feet, carrying them, and even kissing them (Matthew 2:2, 8-11; 18:26; 28:9; Luke 7:38).
This contradicts Christ, who worshipped the Father alone.
Even Christ, the prophet of God, followed the approach of the ancient prophets and the divinity restricted to the Father alone.
3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. 4 I have brought you glory on earth by finishing the work you gave me to do.
John 17:3-4
The veneration and worship of images and statues is a pagan ritual practiced by many ordinary Christians, though not all of them, within the monasteries or churches of the Orthodox and Catholic denominations and their many Christian denominations (such as the Coptic, Maronite, Chaldean, Syriac, and Assyrian). It is common to see images and statues of Jesus Christ, the Virgin Mary, and many other saints as objects of veneration and worship, with the exception of Protestant churches and monasteries, which oppose this practice.
Pagan rituals and polytheism are evident in Christianity's worship among the general public, not only regarding the divinity of Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit, but also the veneration of images and statues of Christ, the Virgin Mary, and saints such as Peter, John the Baptist, and Paul the Apostle.
Statues are found throughout the halls of churches of both the Orthodox and Catholic denominations, and their walls are decorated with pictures and drawings. This undoubtedly contradicts the teachings of the Bible, both the Old and New Testaments, which prohibit Christians from venerating statues and images. When visiting St. Paul's Cathedral in London or St. Peter's Basilica in Rome, one can hardly distinguish between them and the famous pagan temple (Somnath) in India!
Christians not only venerated images of Christ, but also sanctified the wood of the cross. For some, the cross became a magical tool, used to heal the sick and remove witchcraft. Simple Christians gave free rein to their instincts, transforming relics, images, and sacred statues into objects of worship, before which they prostrated, kissed, lit candles, burned incense, crowned them with flowers, and asked them to grant their wishes. There are no texts in the Old Testament that justify Christians' veneration of images and statues. There is an explicit prohibition against their Jewish and Christian
followers from venerating and making images and statues, such as:
Deuteronomy 5:8 states: "8 “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below..."
After the spread of Islam during the eighth century AD in the Arab East and its neighboring countries, which forbade the veneration of images and statues, some Christians and their rulers began to reject the heresy of venerating images and statues in churches and worked to remove them. Among them was the Roman Emperor Leo III, who convened a council of bishops and issued a decree in 726 AD demanding the removal of all images and statues from churches. He prohibited the placement of images of Christ and the Virgin Mary, and ordered the covering of images on church walls with plaster. However, the priests did not agree to the decree, and the church opposed it.
حوار هاشم مع روحاني محترم ترك المسيحية
الجزء 1 سارعوا للايمان! هاشم في نقاش مع فتاة شابة، ركن المتحدثين، هايد بارك
الجزء 2 سارعوا إلى الإيمان! هاشم في نقاش مع فتاة شابة، ركن المتحدثين، هايد بارك
اتبع الحق و لا تتبع الباطل! محمد علي و مسيحي ركن الخطباء
This contradicts Christ, who worshipped the Father alone.
Even Christ, the prophet of God, followed the approach of the ancient prophets and the divinity restricted to the Father alone.
3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. 4 I have brought you glory on earth by finishing the work you gave me to do.
John 17:3-4
The veneration and worship of images and statues is a pagan ritual practiced by many ordinary Christians, though not all of them, within the monasteries or churches of the Orthodox and Catholic denominations and their many Christian denominations (such as the Coptic, Maronite, Chaldean, Syriac, and Assyrian). It is common to see images and statues of Jesus Christ, the Virgin Mary, and many other saints as objects of veneration and worship, with the exception of Protestant churches and monasteries, which oppose this practice.
Pagan rituals and polytheism are evident in Christianity's worship among the general public, not only regarding the divinity of Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit, but also the veneration of images and statues of Christ, the Virgin Mary, and saints such as Peter, John the Baptist, and Paul the Apostle.
Statues are found throughout the halls of churches of both the Orthodox and Catholic denominations, and their walls are decorated with pictures and drawings. This undoubtedly contradicts the teachings of the Bible, both the Old and New Testaments, which prohibit Christians from venerating statues and images. When visiting St. Paul's Cathedral in London or St. Peter's Basilica in Rome, one can hardly distinguish between them and the famous pagan temple (Somnath) in India!
Christians not only venerated images of Christ, but also sanctified the wood of the cross. For some, the cross became a magical tool, used to heal the sick and remove witchcraft. Simple Christians gave free rein to their instincts, transforming relics, images, and sacred statues into objects of worship, before which they prostrated, kissed, lit candles, burned incense, crowned them with flowers, and asked them to grant their wishes. There are no texts in the Old Testament that justify Christians' veneration of images and statues. There is an explicit prohibition against their Jewish and Christian
followers from venerating and making images and statues, such as:
Deuteronomy 5:8 states: "8 “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below..."
After the spread of Islam during the eighth century AD in the Arab East and its neighboring countries, which forbade the veneration of images and statues, some Christians and their rulers began to reject the heresy of venerating images and statues in churches and worked to remove them. Among them was the Roman Emperor Leo III, who convened a council of bishops and issued a decree in 726 AD demanding the removal of all images and statues from churches. He prohibited the placement of images of Christ and the Virgin Mary, and ordered the covering of images on church walls with plaster. However, the priests did not agree to the decree, and the church opposed it.
حوار هاشم مع روحاني محترم ترك المسيحية
الجزء 1 سارعوا للايمان! هاشم في نقاش مع فتاة شابة، ركن المتحدثين، هايد بارك
الجزء 2 سارعوا إلى الإيمان! هاشم في نقاش مع فتاة شابة، ركن المتحدثين، هايد بارك
اتبع الحق و لا تتبع الباطل! محمد علي و مسيحي ركن الخطباء
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