Kevin_Kennedy
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Thanks for the reply.
I'm no historian, but I'm almost certain that the the South wouldnt have seceded from the Union if the Northern states were pro-slavery, and didnt present a threat to their right to work millions of Africans to their deaths on their plantations. I can care less if Lincoln was a racist, or whether or not he had ulterior motives for freeing the slaves; what instead is relevant to me is that he supported the abolition of slavery, plain and simple.
I dont know about you, but I simply cant support the South in any way when their #1 REASON or leaving the United States was because they wanted to uphold the institution of slavery. Obviously, I can see why it'd be harder for southerners to let go of this disgusting practice, but I don't think they're deserving of any sort of special sympathy. It's slavery, and it's wrong.
Where do you find justification for supporting the Southern cause?
Pretty much everything you said there is politically correct, but historically incorrect.
The troubles between North and South were over tariffs, not slavery. By 1860, the South was funding 85-87% of the Federal government's total revenue through tariffs that were increasing their cost of living. Almost 9 out of 10 Southerners owned no slaves at all.
American agriculture was booming in the mid-1850's as Southern farms were feeding Europe during the Crimean War. That boom slowed dowed down when the war ended in '56. In 1857, the Ohio Life Insurance and Trust Company had to close its New York office because of embezzlement, which almost caused a run on the banks. That, the economic slowdown, and the Dred Scott Decision caused an economic depression, the Panic of 1857.
Strangely enough, Congress actually did the right thing that year and lowered the tariff rates, and the economy stabilized and began to recover in two years. Just as the economy was beginning to recover, Congressman Justin Morrill of Vermont proposed the Morrill Tariff, threatening to raise the tariff rates through the roof with the Southern states bearing the brunt of it..
Lincoln campaigned in 1860 in favor of the Morrill Tariff. That was why he did not appear on the ballots in any of the Southern states, not slavery. After his election and before his inauguration, he gave a speech in Philadelphia promising to sign the tariff bill if Congress passed it. They did pass it and President James Buchanan signed it into law as one of his final acts.
Contrary to popular belief, Lincoln was not an abolitionist. He did not consider himself one, nor did the abolitionists consider him an abolitionist. Read his First Inaugural Address.
I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.
Those who nominated and elected me did so with full knowledge that I had made this and many similar declarations and had never recanted them...
Eyeah..this old chestnut.
No..the troubles between the North and the South were very much about slavery. Aside from the moral implications of the practice, there were numerous slave revolts and the courts were being larded with indefensible cases about the rights of slaves.
Initially Lincoln hadn't thought blacks equal to whites, but thought the institution of slavery was wrong. He had no taste to go to war over it either. That changed..along Lincoln's other opinion, that if the American Blacks were liberated, they would be sent back to Africa.
Lincoln never changed his mind regarding colonization. He supported it to his dying day.
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