Hamas Leader Killed

[Mac-7]

There's the old persecution complex and hysterical paranoia again.

7 european trained arab armies defeated by an ad hoc rag rag Jewish defense force

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Fighting the German military isn't a terrorist act.

The German military said it was.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

7 european trained arab armies defeated by an ad hoc rag rag Jewish defense force

The conflict (civil war) began right after the UN passed the partition plan resolution, the Arabs said they would resist an imposed colonial state on Arab land and that's what they did once the partition plan was passed.

The war was provoked, stoked by the West and the US was a party to that as well with it's recognition of the "State of Israel".

Here's what Truman said about the Zionists and their incessant complaining and lobbying to get their own way with the partition resolution - just as they do to this day.

President Truman later noted, "The facts were that not only were there pressure movements around the United Nations unlike anything that had been seen there before, but that the White House, too, was subjected to a constant barrage. I do not think I ever had as much pressure and propaganda aimed at the White House as I had in this instance. The persistence of a few of the extreme Zionist leaders—actuated by political motives and engaging in political threats—disturbed and annoyed me."[102]

Source: Wikipedia

Had Truman done the right thing there'd be peace in the Middle East today, but he allowed his authority to be manipulated by the Zionist terrorists.

 

[Shusha]

God, you are so full of shit!

The United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine allocated 56.47% of the Mandate's territory to the Jewish state, or 15,264 square kilometers. The remaining territory was to be divided, with 42.88% allocated to an Arab state...

The Mandate allocated territory to the Jewish people (Israel) and to the Arab people (Jordan).

If you meant to say the UNGA recommended a Partition Plan, than say so. Accuracy matters.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

The Mandate allocated territory to the Jewish people (Israel) and to the Arab people (Jordan).

It did no such thing, I corrected your misunderstanding of the Mandate for Palestine recently, must I do so again?

If you meant to say the UNGA recommended a Partition Plan, than say so. Accuracy matters.

For those interested in seeing Shusha's erroneous reading, here is the full unabridged and unedited text of the 1922 Mandate for Palestine. At 9 pages long it's pretty short.

 

[Shusha]

The conflict (civil war) began right after the UN passed the partition plan resolution, the Arabs said they would resist an imposed colonial state on Arab land and that's what they did once the partition plan was passed.

The sheer arrogance of "Arab land".

 

[Shusha]

It did no such thing, I corrected your misunderstanding of the mandate recently, must I do so again?

 

[Shusha]

It did no such thing, I corrected your misunderstanding of the Mandate for Palestine recently, must I do so again?


For those interested in seeing Shusha's erroneous reading, here is the full unabridged and unedited text of the 1922 Mandate for Palestine.

...which outlines the historical connection of the Jewish people to the land and confirms the right to RE-ESTABLISH its national home in that country. Thanks for posting.

 

[Billo_Really]

Thats a lie

The arabs invaded with the expectation of driving all the Jews into the sea

But God had other ideas

No it is not a lie! You forced 750,000 Arab farmers off their land with the use of Jewish terrorist groups like Irgun.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

The sheer arrogance of "Arab land".

Colonizers have no place complaining about the arrogance of others.

It was occupied predominantly by Arabs for thousands of years, in the late 19th century some 85% of the population were not Jew or Christian but Muslims (Arabs).

Then between 1920 and 1945 the colonial powers in connivance with extremist Zionists enabled the immigration of 368,000 Jews and 33,000 non-Jews.

The effect was that between 1922 and 1944 the % of the population who were Jews rose from 11% to 30%.

(this is the very thing the MAGA crowd fear is happening here, although not the same scale or nature, what took place in Palestine was much much worse than what's happening with our Mexico border)

This is proof of colonization, imposed, rapid and dramatic demographic changes as a result of colonial interference (Britain).

Source: CJPME

Conclusion? It was Arab land far more so than any other ethnicity and recent mass colonization does not alter the truth of that.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

...which outlines the historical connection of the Jewish people to the land and confirms the right to RE-ESTABLISH its national home in that country. Thanks for posting.

Please show us all where in the text of the Mandate you read "the Mandate allocated territory to the Jewish people"?

Take your time...

 

[Shusha]

It was predominantly occupied predominantly by Arabs for thousands of years...

Because the Arabs conquered and colonized the Jewish homeland.

This is proof of colonization, rapid and dramatic demographic changes as a result of colonial interference (Britain).

No, this is proof of return and re-establishing the Jewish national home in the Jewish land. It is decolonization.

 

[Shusha]

Please show us all where in the text of the Mandate you read "the Mandate allocated territory to the Jewish people"?

Take your time...

Well, the term "allocation" is not the most accurate. That term was brought up by Billo. It was a recognition of inherent rights. But its all there in the Preamble.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Because the Arabs conquered and colonized the Jewish homeland.

No, this is proof of return and re-establishing the Jewish national home in the Jewish land. It is decolonization.

Dead people cannot "return" to anywhere and people who never lived there cannot be said to "return" there, there's a much more accurate way to describe this and it's "foreign colonization" not "return" which is a sheer absurdity and abuse of English.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Well, the term "allocation" is not the most accurate. That term was brought up by Billo. It was a recognition of inherent rights.

But its all there in the Preamble.

No it isn't.

 

[horselightning]

No it is not a lie! You forced 750,000 Arab farmers off their land with the use of Jewish terrorist groups like Irgun.

Because the Arabs conquered and colonized the Jewish homeland.

No, this is proof of return and re-establishing the Jewish national home in the Jewish land. It is decolonization.

arabs were on jewish land and no supposed to be.

 

[Shusha]

Dead people cannot "return" to anywhere and people who never lived there cannot be said to "return" there, there's a much more accurate way to describe this and it's "foreign colonization" not "return" which is a sheer absurdity and abuse of English.

People returning to their own homeland can not be colonizers. This isn't difficult to understand. Or do you intend to utterly destroy the entire concept of Palestinian return with your own argument?

 

[Shusha]

No it isn't.

I have no idea what you are reading. But the Preamble is clear about the re-establishment of the Jewish national home in Mandatory Palestine.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

People returning to their own homeland can not be colonizers.

How can one return to a place they've never been to?

This isn't difficult to understand. Or do you intend to utterly destroy the entire concept of Palestinian return with your own argument?

What is this "Palestinian return" you speak of? when did that take place?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

I have no idea what you are reading. But the Preamble is clear about the re-establishment of the Jewish national home in Mandatory Palestine.

Here's the "preamble" if I understand what you mean by that:

The Council of the League of Nations: Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have agreed, for the purpose of giving effect to the provisions of Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations, to entrust to a Mandatory selected by the said Powers the administration of the territory of Palestine, which formerly belonged to the Turkish Empire, within such boundaries as may be fixed by them; and Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have also agreed that the Mandatory should be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 2nd, 1917, by the Government of His Britannic Majesty, and adopted by the said Powers, in favour of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, it being clearly understood that nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country; and Whereas recognition has thereby been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country; and Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have selected His Britannic Majesty as the Mandatory for Palestine; and Whereas the mandate in respect of Palestine has been formulated in the following terms and submitted to the Council of the League for approval; and Whereas His Britannic Majesty has accepted the mandate in respect of Palestine and undertaken to exercise it on behalf of the League of Nations in conformity with the following provisions; and Whereas by the aforementioned Article 22 (paragraph 8), it is provided that the degree of authority, control or administration to be exercised by the Mandatory, not having been previously agreed upon by the Members of the League, shall be explicitly defined by the Council of the League of Nations;

Where does it say that territory was "allocated to the Jewish people" ?