H2O vs. CO2 Yet another observation the AGW Cult will ignore

[Oddball]

 

[abu afak]

abu afak

Q. How much does temperature increase when CO2 is increased from 280 to 400PPM?

Hoping to stump with detail, or try and prove your idiotic theory that it goes out it to 3, 4, 5 Decimal places?

I suggest you learn how to do research. It's SO EASY these days NOT TO BE STUPID and repeat MAGAt talking points you see here.
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sensitivity of temperatiure toi co2 - Google Search

First up of many with app what most estimate

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In general, whenever the carbon dioxide concentration in our atmosphere doubles, global temperatures rise by about 3° C (5.4° F). This is called the climate sensitivity, and there is evidence that it might be higher or lower than 3° C.https://scied.ucar.edu/interactive/climate-sensitivity-calculator#:~:text=In general, whenever the carbon,lower than 3° C.​

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Climate Sensitivity Calculator | Center for Science Education​

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and ie many more​

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Explainer: How scientists estimate climate sensitivity​

Carbon Brief​

https://www.carbonbrief.org › explainer-how-scientists...​

Jun 19, 2018 — For many years, estimates have put climate sensitivity somewhere between 1.5C and 4.5C of warming for a doubling of pre-industrial CO2 levels.​

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Climate sensitivity - Wikipedia​

Wikipedia​

https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Climate_sensitivity​

Climate sensitivity is a measure of how much Earth's surface will cool or warm after a specified factor causes a change in its climate system, ...​

‎Background · ‎Measures · ‎Sensitivity to nature of forcing · ‎Estimates​

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International analysis narrows range of climate's sensitivity ...​

International analysis narrows range of climate's sensitivity to CO2: Four years of research confidently narrows range of 1.5°C-4.5°C down to 2.3°C-3.9°C​

Science Daily​

https://www.sciencedaily.com › releases › 2020/07​

Jul 22, 2020 — For more than 40 years, the estimated likely range of the eventual global temperature response to a doubling of atmospheric carbon dioxide ...​

​

What is 'climate sensitivity'?​

Met Office​

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk › understanding-climate​

Climate sensitivity is typically defined as the global temperature rise following a doubling of CO2 concentration in the atmosphere compared to pre-industrial ...​

​

Climate Sensitivity​

Massachusetts Institute of Technology​

https://climate.mit.edu › explainers › climate-sensitivity​

The definition of climate sensitivity is based on doubling carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases, compared with their levels in the atmosphere before humans ...​

​

How Much Will the Planet Warm if Carbon Dioxide Levels ...​

The New York Times​

https://www.nytimes.com › 2020/07/22 › climate › globa...​

Aug 9, 2021 — For more than 40 years, scientists have expressed the answer as a range of possible temperature increases, between 1.5 and 4.5 degrees Celsius, ...​

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How much will Earth warm if carbon dioxide doubles pre- ...​

Climate.gov​

https://www.climate.gov › news-features › climate-qa​

by RLRBI Held — Scientists say that doubling pre-industrial carbon dioxide levels will likely cause global average surface temperature to rise between 1.5° ...​

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Making Sense of 'Climate Sensitivity​

NASA (.gov)​

https://climate.nasa.gov › ask-nasa-climate › making-s...​

Sep 8, 2020 — Marvel: “The most important thing about climate sensitivity is that it's not zero. Increasing atmospheric carbon dioxide definitely makes it ...​

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Climate Sensitivity​

American Chemical Society​

https://www.acs.org › climatescience › climatsensitivity​

Thus, most values for climate sensitivity are given today as the temperature change predicted for doubling the CO2 concentration, ΔT2xCO2, or the equivalent of ...​

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etc.​

Also Evo denying CrusaderFrank is in fact the RAGING Brain-Damaged clown who thought the Temp should drop if there was any sensitivity because COVID lowered emissions, but in fact the CO2 didn't go down from 412 to 350 or 300, or 100, it stayed about the Same as did the CO2 Number. Power plants still ran, CO2 is cumulative and Lingers even if you stop for 6 mos.

IOW, We've already been through your 12 IQ concoctions.
YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO DEBATE.
YOU, LIKE MOST OTHER MAGAts HERE ARE COMPLETELY INCAPABLE OF INFO GATHERING AS I JUST DID FOR YOU ABOVE. (Billy Bob had a thread on the sensitivity issue and he was low, but about 1000x higher than you.)

You are THEE STUPIDEST poster on USMB.
Not even close to anyone else... tho maybe Oddball...
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[jc456]

Hoping to stump with detail, or try and prove your idiotic theory that it goes out it to 3, 4, 5 Decimal places?

I suggest you learn how to do research. It's SO EASY these day NOT TO BE STUPID and repeat MAGAt talking points you see here.
ie

sensitivity of temperatiure toi co2 - Google Search

First up of many with app what most estimate

​

In general, whenever the carbon dioxide concentration in our atmosphere doubles, global temperatures rise by about 3° C (5.4° F). This is called the climate sensitivity, and there is evidence that it might be higher or lower than 3° C.https://scied.ucar.edu/interactive/climate-sensitivity-calculator#:~:text=In general, whenever the carbon,lower than 3° C.​

​

Climate Sensitivity Calculator | Center for Science Education​

​

and ie many more​

​

Explainer: How scientists estimate climate sensitivity​

Carbon Brief​

https://www.carbonbrief.org › explainer-how-scientists...​

Jun 19, 2018 — For many years, estimates have put climate sensitivity somewhere between 1.5C and 4.5C of warming for a doubling of pre-industrial CO2 levels.​

​

Climate sensitivity - Wikipedia​

Wikipedia​

https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Climate_sensitivity​

Climate sensitivity is a measure of how much Earth's surface will cool or warm after a specified factor causes a change in its climate system, ...​

‎Background · ‎Measures · ‎Sensitivity to nature of forcing · ‎Estimates​

​

International analysis narrows range of climate's sensitivity ...​

International analysis narrows range of climate's sensitivity to CO2: Four years of research confidently narrows range of 1.5°C-4.5°C down to 2.3°C-3.9°C​

Science Daily​

https://www.sciencedaily.com › releases › 2020/07​

Jul 22, 2020 — For more than 40 years, the estimated likely range of the eventual global temperature response to a doubling of atmospheric carbon dioxide ...​

​

What is 'climate sensitivity'?​

Met Office​

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk › understanding-climate​

Climate sensitivity is typically defined as the global temperature rise following a doubling of CO2 concentration in the atmosphere compared to pre-industrial ...​

​

Climate Sensitivity​

Massachusetts Institute of Technology​

https://climate.mit.edu › explainers › climate-sensitivity​

The definition of climate sensitivity is based on doubling carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases, compared with their levels in the atmosphere before humans ...​

​

How Much Will the Planet Warm if Carbon Dioxide Levels ...​

The New York Times​

https://www.nytimes.com › 2020/07/22 › climate › globa...​

Aug 9, 2021 — For more than 40 years, scientists have expressed the answer as a range of possible temperature increases, between 1.5 and 4.5 degrees Celsius, ...​

​

How much will Earth warm if carbon dioxide doubles pre- ...​

Climate.gov​

https://www.climate.gov › news-features › climate-qa​

by RLRBI Held — Scientists say that doubling pre-industrial carbon dioxide levels will likely cause global average surface temperature to rise between 1.5° ...​

​

Making Sense of 'Climate Sensitivity​

NASA (.gov)​

https://climate.nasa.gov › ask-nasa-climate › making-s...​

Sep 8, 2020 — Marvel: “The most important thing about climate sensitivity is that it's not zero. Increasing atmospheric carbon dioxide definitely makes it ...​

​

Climate Sensitivity​

American Chemical Society​

https://www.acs.org › climatescience › climatsensitivity​

Thus, most values for climate sensitivity are given today as the temperature change predicted for doubling the CO2 concentration, ΔT2xCO2, or the equivalent of ...​

​

etc.​

Also Evo denying CrusaderFrank is in fact the RAGING Brain-Damaged clown who thought the Temp should drop if there was any sensitivity because COVID lowered emissions, but in fact the CO2 didn't go down from 412 to 350 or 300, or 100, it stayed about the Same as did the CO2 Number. Power plants still ran, CO2 is cumulative and Lingers even if you stop for 6 mos.
We've already been through your 12 IQ concoctions.
YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO DEBATE.
YOU, LIKE MOST OTHER MAGAts HERE ARE COMPLETELY INCAPABLE OF INFO GATHERING AS I JUST DID FOR YOU ABOVE. (Billy Bob had a thread on the sensitivity issue and he was low, but about 1000x higher than you.)
You are THEE STUPIDEST poster on USMB.
Not even close to anyone else... tho maybe Oddball...
`

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I didn’t lie! Here’s the circle back

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Frank, ever noticed the demofks circle back to the same nonsense when backed into a corner?

They NEVER give an answer with a non-imaginary number!

 

[Oddball]

Let's spin the wheel of global warming climate change, and see if we can solve the puzzle!

 

[Oddball]

They NEVER give an answer with a non-imaginary number!

Found under the heading of "unquantifiable".

 

[Dagosa]

How is this "Science" if they can't answer the simple bedrock, fundamental question that forms the base of their "Theory"?

Q. How much does temperature increase when CO2 is increased from 280 to 400PPM?

A. Close to zero, maybe .001F

Not what you asked bubba.
You asked by how much does water vapor increase given a set increase in co2.

Now you’re just guessing shit.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Hoping to stump with detail, or try and prove your idiotic theory that it goes out it to 3, 4, 5 Decimal places?

I suggest you learn how to do research. It's SO EASY these days NOT TO BE STUPID and repeat MAGAt talking points you see here.
ie

sensitivity of temperatiure toi co2 - Google Search

First up of many with app what most estimate

​

In general, whenever the carbon dioxide concentration in our atmosphere doubles, global temperatures rise by about 3° C (5.4° F). This is called the climate sensitivity, and there is evidence that it might be higher or lower than 3° C.https://scied.ucar.edu/interactive/climate-sensitivity-calculator#:~:text=In general, whenever the carbon,lower than 3° C.​

​

Climate Sensitivity Calculator | Center for Science Education​

​

and ie many more​

​

Explainer: How scientists estimate climate sensitivity​

Carbon Brief​

https://www.carbonbrief.org › explainer-how-scientists...​

Jun 19, 2018 — For many years, estimates have put climate sensitivity somewhere between 1.5C and 4.5C of warming for a doubling of pre-industrial CO2 levels.​

​

Climate sensitivity - Wikipedia​

Wikipedia​

https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Climate_sensitivity​

Climate sensitivity is a measure of how much Earth's surface will cool or warm after a specified factor causes a change in its climate system, ...​

‎Background · ‎Measures · ‎Sensitivity to nature of forcing · ‎Estimates​

​

International analysis narrows range of climate's sensitivity ...​

International analysis narrows range of climate's sensitivity to CO2: Four years of research confidently narrows range of 1.5°C-4.5°C down to 2.3°C-3.9°C​

Science Daily​

https://www.sciencedaily.com › releases › 2020/07​

Jul 22, 2020 — For more than 40 years, the estimated likely range of the eventual global temperature response to a doubling of atmospheric carbon dioxide ...​

​

What is 'climate sensitivity'?​

Met Office​

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk › understanding-climate​

Climate sensitivity is typically defined as the global temperature rise following a doubling of CO2 concentration in the atmosphere compared to pre-industrial ...​

​

Climate Sensitivity​

Massachusetts Institute of Technology​

https://climate.mit.edu › explainers › climate-sensitivity​

The definition of climate sensitivity is based on doubling carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases, compared with their levels in the atmosphere before humans ...​

​

How Much Will the Planet Warm if Carbon Dioxide Levels ...​

The New York Times​

https://www.nytimes.com › 2020/07/22 › climate › globa...​

Aug 9, 2021 — For more than 40 years, scientists have expressed the answer as a range of possible temperature increases, between 1.5 and 4.5 degrees Celsius, ...​

​

How much will Earth warm if carbon dioxide doubles pre- ...​

Climate.gov​

https://www.climate.gov › news-features › climate-qa​

by RLRBI Held — Scientists say that doubling pre-industrial carbon dioxide levels will likely cause global average surface temperature to rise between 1.5° ...​

​

Making Sense of 'Climate Sensitivity​

NASA (.gov)​

https://climate.nasa.gov › ask-nasa-climate › making-s...​

Sep 8, 2020 — Marvel: “The most important thing about climate sensitivity is that it's not zero. Increasing atmospheric carbon dioxide definitely makes it ...​

​

Climate Sensitivity​

American Chemical Society​

https://www.acs.org › climatescience › climatsensitivity​

Thus, most values for climate sensitivity are given today as the temperature change predicted for doubling the CO2 concentration, ΔT2xCO2, or the equivalent of ...​

​

etc.​

Also Evo denying CrusaderFrank is in fact the RAGING Brain-Damaged clown who thought the Temp should drop if there was any sensitivity because COVID lowered emissions, but in fact the CO2 didn't go down from 412 to 350 or 300, or 100, it stayed about the Same as did the CO2 Number. Power plants still ran, CO2 is cumulative and Lingers even if you stop for 6 mos.

IOW, We've already been through your 12 IQ concoctions.
YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO DEBATE.
YOU, LIKE MOST OTHER MAGAts HERE ARE COMPLETELY INCAPABLE OF INFO GATHERING AS I JUST DID FOR YOU ABOVE. (Billy Bob had a thread on the sensitivity issue and he was low, but about 1000x higher than you.)

You are THEE STUPIDEST poster on USMB.
Not even close to anyone else... tho maybe Oddball...
`

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In general, whenever the carbon dioxide concentration in our atmosphere doubles, global temperatures rise by about 3° C (5.4° F). This is called the climate sensitivity, and there is evidence that it might be higher or lower than 3° C.

There is evidence? Where?

If we control for CO2: one container 280PPM, the other 560, are you telling us the 560PPM control will be 3C higher temperature?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Not what you asked bubba.
You asked by how much does water vapor increase given a set increase in co2.

Now you’re just guessing shit.

Instead of parroting the talking points, just think about any of the questions.

I didn't ask

how much does water vapor increase given a set increase in co2.

 

[abu afak]

They NEVER give an answer with a non-imaginary number!

Nothing Imaginary.
It CO2 doubles, Temp goes up 3C/5.4F... so since it went up 50% (to 420 we do have) instead of 100% it would be roughly 1.5C... which is what we do have. (temp lags a bit/perhaps even several decades, it will go higher if we stay here or even stay at 400 PPM)
What happened to your 3, 4, 5 decimal places you Utter Moron?

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[CrusaderFrank]

Nothing Imaginary.
It CO2 doubles, Temp goes up 3C/5.4F... so since it went up 50% instead of 100% it would be roughly 1.5C... which is what we do have. (temp lags a bit, it will go higher if we stay here)
What happened to your 3, 4, 5 decimal places you Moron?

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Show us the experiment that control for CO2!

 

[Dagosa]

In general, whenever the carbon dioxide concentration in our atmosphere doubles, global temperatures rise by about 3° C (5.4° F). This is called the climate sensitivity, and there is evidence that it might be higher or lower than 3° C.

There is evidence? Where?

If we control for CO2: one container 280PPM, the other 560, are you telling us the 560PPM control will be 3C higher temperature?

The earth isn’t a closed container. Maybe you didn’t notice.

 

[Dagosa]

Instead of parroting the talking points, just think about any of the questions.

I didn't ask

You don’t know enough to ask an intelligent question.

 

[Dagosa]

Instead of parroting the talking points, just think about any of the questions.

I didn't ask

 

[abu afak]

Show us the experiment that control for CO2!

Sorry I don't have another solar system
But of course they are going on Lab testing and real world results.
I can't do evolution or the Big Bang experiment either. These are earth/Universe sciences.

You GOT YOUR ANSWER/NUMBER.
SO YOU LOST
YOU DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO GOOGLE YOUR QUESTION. YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO DEBATE.
Now you want more detail/demand detail Fallacy
LOOK IT UP.
LOOK IT UP.
You DOPE OF DOPES.
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[CrusaderFrank]

Nothing Imaginary.
It CO2 doubles, Temp goes up 3C/5.4F... so since it went up 50% (to 420 we do have) instead of 100% it would be roughly 1.5C... which is what we do have. (temp lags a bit/perhaps even several decades, it will go higher if we stay here or even stay at 400 PPM)
What happened to your 3, 4, 5 decimal places you Utter Moron?

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So you can show us a controlled experiment with 2 containers one with 250PPM of CO2 and another with 1000PPM and the temperature in the second one will be 6C higher than the first?

Are you aure?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Sorry I don't have another solar system
But of course they are going on Lab testing and real world results.
I can't do evolution or the Big Bang experiment either. These are earth/Universe sciences.

You GOT YOUR ANSWER/NUMBER.
SO YOU LOST
YOU DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO GOOGLE YOUR QUESTION. YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO DEBATE.
Now you want more detail/demand detail Fallacy
LOOK IT UP.
LOOK IT UP.
You DOPE OF DOPES.
`

You mean controlling for 280 to 400PPM of CO2 is like the Big Bang? Really???

I thought CO2 had magical heat trapping properties all by itself!

 

[abu afak]

So you can show us a controlled experiment with 2 containers one with 250PPM of CO2 and another with 1000PPM and the temperature in the second one will be 6C higher than the first?

Are you aure?

I've already googled/linked it for you months ago.
A google search with 'experiments' at home/school that anyone can do
LOOK IT UP YOU HOPELESS MORON/Lazy Muth F******.
Just google your own typed words and you will get results you 12 IQ ldiot.
PLLLLLEEEEEEEAAAASSSSSE

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[CrusaderFrank]

Sorry I don't have another solar system
But of course they are going on Lab testing and real world results.
I can't do evolution or the Big Bang experiment either. These are earth/Universe sciences.

You GOT YOUR ANSWER/NUMBER.
SO YOU LOST
YOU DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO GOOGLE YOUR QUESTION. YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO DEBATE.
Now you want more detail/demand detail Fallacy
LOOK IT UP.
LOOK IT UP.
You DOPE OF DOPES.
`

So which is it: does CO2 raise temperature at this tiny amounts or are you bailing out and saying the system is too complicated to assigned the change to any one variable?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I've already googled/linked it for you months ago.
A google search with 'experiments' at home/school that anyone can do
LOOK IT UP YOU HOPELESS MORON/Lazy Muth F******.
Just google your own typed words and you will get results you 12 IQ ldiot.
PLLLLLEEEEEEEAAAASSSSSE

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Not at those quantities, NONE OF THE EXPERIEMENTS EVER POSTED BY THE AGW CULT (that's you) EVER CONTROLLED FOR CO2 AT THESE LEVELS

NOT ONCE