H2O vs. CO2 Yet another observation the AGW Cult will ignore

[CrusaderFrank]

and they think Antarctic glaciers are about to "slide off into the oceans," never mind they are already BELOW SEA LEVEL...

And some insist that in the state of FLA, nobody ever uses the word


CANES

We all know that manmade CO2 is causing the undersea volcanoes to get active

 

[Dagosa]

Water vapor is a more powerful GHG that CO2. H2O is Mike Tyson and CO2 is Woody Allen

The "theory" of Manmade Global Climate Warming Change is that the relatively recent CO2 increase from 280 to 420PPM will cause an extinction level event rivaled by the dinosaur killing asteroid. "

But..."Water vapor is Earth’s most abundant greenhouse gas. It’s responsible for about half of Earth’s greenhouse effect — the process that occurs when gases in Earth’s atmosphere trap the Sun’s heat." Steamy Relationships: How Atmospheric Water Vapor Amplifies Earth's Greenhouse Effect – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

If H2O is more powerful where are the studies showing H2O back in 1850? What are they today? Does an additional 100PPM H2O raise temperature more that CO2

It’s not a cult when all the related institutes agree on something. It’s a cult when the stupid make up shit.

 

[Dagosa]

ESRL Global Monitoring Laboratory - Ozone and Water Vapor

Here's a chart from NOAA showing the meteoric rise of H2O these past 35 years. Is H2O melting the polar ice caps?

Gee, why don’t you just show the results from last night. 1980 ? Hilarious. The industrial revolution stated in the 1800’s....

 

[abu afak]

Water Vapor, CO2, and Global Warming​

MYTH: Water vapor is the most important, abundant greenhouse gas. So if we’re going to control a greenhouse gas, why don’t we control it instead of carbon dioxide (CO2)?

This is a common Misconception in the debate over greenhouse gases and the causes of global warming. Both water vapor and carbon dioxide are important greenhouse gases that play a crucial role in atmospheric warming. A greenhouse gas is a gas that absorbs and re-emits infrared radiation in Earth’s atmosphere, thereby increasing temperatures. Which gas then is to blame for global warming and should be controlled?

Water vapor accounts for 60-70% of the greenhouse effect while CO2 accounts for 25% —a notable difference when numbers alone are compared. It would seem then that water vapor should be climatologists’ primary focus. However, water vapor cannot be controlled by human intervention; it is simply a Product of its environment.

The amount of water vapor the atmosphere can hold is dependent on temperature. Under normal conditions, most of the heat emitted from Earth’s surface in the form of long wave radiation goes into the atmosphere and out into space. However, the presence of increased greenhouse gases traps more long-wave radiation, which means there is more energy in the atmosphere to warm the Earth’s surface.

As the atmospheric temperature rises, more water is evaporated from ground storage, such as that found in our rivers, oceans, soils, and reservoirs. The released water vapor becomes a greenhouse gas where it then absorbs more energy radiated from the Earth and thus warms the atmosphere. The warmer atmosphere results in further water evaporation and the cycle continues. This mechanism is known as a Positive Feedback Loop.

Scientists then need to focus on what is causing air temperatures to rise in the first place. Heat from Other Greenhouse Gases is Causing atmospheric Warming, Leading to an increase in water evaporation and compounding the greenhouse effect. Anthropogenic, or human-derived, CO2 serves as the Primary source of Warming with water vapor playing a Secondary role.
While CO2 occurs naturally in the atmosphere, human interference has interrupted the carbon cycle through activities, such as burning forests, mining, and burning coal. These activities artificially release more carbon from their solid storage to its gaseous state in the lower atmosphere. The rapid increase in CO2 volume has exceeded the amount oceans and vegetation are able to re-absorb. Furthermore, as deforestation continues around the world, there is less vegetation every year available to sequester the carbon. Thus, excess CO2 remains in the atmosphere where it traps heat and stimulates water evaporation."...."

Water Vapor, CO2, and Global Warming | IEDRO​

another Stupid FrusaderCrank post (and counting) bungle destroyed with One.
He is THEE Stupidest poster on USMB/any MB.
Another Nonsensical post (or dozens) to follow.

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[CrusaderFrank]

Gee, why don’t you just show the results from last night. 1980 ? Hilarious. The industrial revolution stated in the 1800’s....

We don’t have reliable readings from the 1800s certainly not to a tenth of a degree

How much does temperature increase when CO2 doubles from 250 to 500 PPM?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Water Vapor, CO2, and Global Warming​

MYTH: Water vapor is the most important, abundant greenhouse gas. So if we’re going to control a greenhouse gas, why don’t we control it instead of carbon dioxide (CO2)?

This is a common Misconception in the debate over greenhouse gases and the causes of global warming. Both water vapor and carbon dioxide are important greenhouse gases that play a crucial role in atmospheric warming. A greenhouse gas is a gas that absorbs and re-emits infrared radiation in Earth’s atmosphere, thereby increasing temperatures. Which gas then is to blame for global warming and should be controlled?

Water vapor accounts for 60-70% of the greenhouse effect while CO2 accounts for 25% —a notable difference when numbers alone are compared. It would seem then that water vapor should be climatologists’ primary focus. However, water vapor cannot be controlled by human intervention; it is simply a Product of its environment.

The amount of water vapor the atmosphere can hold is dependent on temperature. Under normal conditions, most of the heat emitted from Earth’s surface in the form of long wave radiation goes into the atmosphere and out into space. However, the presence of increased greenhouse gases traps more long-wave radiation, which means there is more energy in the atmosphere to warm the Earth’s surface.

As the atmospheric temperature rises, more water is evaporated from ground storage, such as that found in our rivers, oceans, soils, and reservoirs. The released water vapor becomes a greenhouse gas where it then absorbs more energy radiated from the Earth and thus warms the atmosphere. The warmer atmosphere results in further water evaporation and the cycle continues. This mechanism is known as a Positive Feedback Loop.

Scientists then need to focus on what is causing air temperatures to rise in the first place. Heat from Other Greenhouse Gases is Causing atmospheric Warming, Leading to an increase in water evaporation and compounding the greenhouse effect. Anthropogenic, or human-derived, CO2 serves as the Primary source of Warming with water vapor playing a Secondary role.
While CO2 occurs naturally in the atmosphere, human interference has interrupted the carbon cycle through activities, such as burning forests, mining, and burning coal. These activities artificially release more carbon from their solid storage to its gaseous state in the lower atmosphere. The rapid increase in CO2 volume has exceeded the amount oceans and vegetation are able to re-absorb. Furthermore, as deforestation continues around the world, there is less vegetation every year available to sequester the carbon. Thus, excess CO2 remains in the atmosphere where it traps heat and stimulates water evaporation."...."

Water Vapor, CO2, and Global Warming | IEDRO​

another Stupid FrusaderCrank post (and counting) bungle destroyed with One.
He is THEE Stupidest poster on USMB/any MB.
Another Nonsensical post (or dozens) to follow.

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Posting the same debunked nonsense does not make it “more gooder”

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It’s not a cult when all the related institutes agree on something. It’s a cult when the stupid make up shit.

That was the motto of the Flat Earth Society!!

 

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Water Vapor, CO2, and Global Warming​

MYTH: Water vapor is the most important, abundant greenhouse gas. So if we’re going to control a greenhouse gas, why don’t we control it instead of carbon dioxide (CO2)?

This is a common Misconception in the debate over greenhouse gases and the causes of global warming. Both water vapor and carbon dioxide are important greenhouse gases that play a crucial role in atmospheric warming. A greenhouse gas is a gas that absorbs and re-emits infrared radiation in Earth’s atmosphere, thereby increasing temperatures. Which gas then is to blame for global warming and should be controlled?

Water vapor accounts for 60-70% of the greenhouse effect while CO2 accounts for 25% —a notable difference when numbers alone are compared. It would seem then that water vapor should be climatologists’ primary focus. However, water vapor cannot be controlled by human intervention; it is simply a Product of its environment.

The amount of water vapor the atmosphere can hold is dependent on temperature. Under normal conditions, most of the heat emitted from Earth’s surface in the form of long wave radiation goes into the atmosphere and out into space. However, the presence of increased greenhouse gases traps more long-wave radiation, which means there is more energy in the atmosphere to warm the Earth’s surface.

As the atmospheric temperature rises, more water is evaporated from ground storage, such as that found in our rivers, oceans, soils, and reservoirs. The released water vapor becomes a greenhouse gas where it then absorbs more energy radiated from the Earth and thus warms the atmosphere. The warmer atmosphere results in further water evaporation and the cycle continues. This mechanism is known as a Positive Feedback Loop.

Scientists then need to focus on what is causing air temperatures to rise in the first place. Heat from Other Greenhouse Gases is Causing atmospheric Warming, Leading to an increase in water evaporation and compounding the greenhouse effect. Anthropogenic, or human-derived, CO2 serves as the Primary source of Warming with water vapor playing a Secondary role.
While CO2 occurs naturally in the atmosphere, human interference has interrupted the carbon cycle through activities, such as burning forests, mining, and burning coal. These activities artificially release more carbon from their solid storage to its gaseous state in the lower atmosphere. The rapid increase in CO2 volume has exceeded the amount oceans and vegetation are able to re-absorb. Furthermore, as deforestation continues around the world, there is less vegetation every year available to sequester the carbon. Thus, excess CO2 remains in the atmosphere where it traps heat and stimulates water evaporation."...."

Water Vapor, CO2, and Global Warming | IEDRO​

another Stupid FrusaderCrank post (and counting) bungle destroyed with One.
He is THEE Stupidest poster on USMB/any MB.
Another Nonsensical post (or dozens) to follow.

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The models the IPCC relies on attribute 2/3rds of future warming to water vapor and only 1/3 due to the radiative forcing of CO2.

 

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abu afak

It's not fake news. It's a fact. Don't you know what climate sensitivity is?

 

[ding]

abu afak given your dismissal of the fact that 2/3rds of the predicted future warming from the climate models are from water vapor due to climate sensitivity, does that mean you disagree with the models that the IPCC relies upon?

 

[abu afak]

abu afak

It's not fake news. It's a fact. Don't you know what Climate Sensitivity is?

See posts 42, 50, 77, in THIS thread you ONE LINE Troll.
where I explain it to FrusaderCrank who doesn't even know the term.

Back on Ignore (except for Neg feedbacks) now that we have all your BS (including 'interglacial') answered/Outed.
Bye!
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See posts 42, 50, 77, in THIS thread you ONE LINE Troll.
where I explain it to FrusaderCrank who doesn't even know the term.

Back on Ignore (except for Neg feedbacks) now that we have all your BS (including 'interglacial') answered/Outed.
Bye!
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Have you ever heard of climate sensitivity?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

So Crusader Bimbo has No answer for his STUNNING Idiocy in Not being able to look up Climate sensitivity (CO2 vs Temp)... despite other debates here on the topic.
(it rises app 3C/5.4F for every doubling)
He thought it had virtually none or went out to 3, 4, 5 decimal places.

Not being able to look up the unbelievably simple schoolhouse experiments in a container for CO2 heat trapping... (he asked for but couldn't google).

and instead is merely Repeating his answered questions/Lies, and posting Large Pictures to bury his loss/Stupidity.

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Here’s where you post the experiment showing this magical doubling of temperatures…

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Have you ever heard of climate sensitivity?

Climate sensitivity is where the AGW Cult feelings get hurt when skeptics doubt CO2s magical climate driving ability

 

[EMH]

Footnote: the warmers never proved that increasing atmospheric Co2 warms the atmosphere. The highly correlated satellite and balloon data completely REFUTED THAT.

The atmosphere is not what causes Earth climate change. Climate change alters the atmosphere and as the planet warms the atmosphere thickens and amplifies it, but it is not the cause. The cause is the amount of ice on the planet, and that is 99% about where land is relative to the poles.

90% on Antarctica
7% on Greenland


If Earth had two polar oceans, it would have no ice...

 

[Dagosa]

Climate sensitivity is where the AGW Cult feelings get hurt when skeptics doubt CO2s magical climate driving ability

Funny. Tell us again why every govt of every country along with every related institute, corporation and research facility IN THE WORLD thinks you‘re FOS. We need a good laugh.
These debates about doubting CO2 are getting silly and you illiterates are boring. Please, come up with something original at least.

If you’re going to flaunt your ignarance, at least be a little more entertaining…..

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Funny. Tell us again why every govt of every country along with every related institute, corporation and research facility IN THE WORLD thinks you‘re FOS. We need a good laugh.
These debates about doubting CO2 are getting silly and you illiterates are boring. Please, come up with something original at least.

If you’re going to flaunt your ignarance, at least be a little more entertaining…..

I don't care what paid shill get paid to "think" This is just the Flat Earth Society 2.0. "Every Organization believes the Earth is a flat plane at the Center of the Universe supported on the back of an infinite number of turtles, you denier!"

SSDD

 

[Dagosa]

I don't care what paid shill get paid to "think" This is just the Flat Earth Society 2.0. "Every Organization believes the Earth is a flat plane at the Center of the Universe supported on the back of an infinite number of turtles, you denier!"

SSDD

The old, “ they get paid” made up shit. Hilarious. Who is paying them ? Hunter ? Any-other “ lies” you think every other research facility in the world is being paid to lie about ?
Tell us what university, govt or science based corporation or institute believes the world is flat…name one. Just one…
The flat earth society is your non science made up bullshit. Don’t claim it has anything to do with science illiterate.

 

[Dagosa]

I don't care what paid shill get paid to "think" This is just the Flat Earth Society 2.0. "Every Organization believes the Earth is a flat plane at the Center of the Universe supported on the back of an infinite number of turtles, you denier!"

SSDD

Dufus, you can’t just make up shit and claim everyone else IN THE WORLD is getting paid to disagree with you, then pretend you aren’t an illiterate bozo.

You just crossed the line into mental illness.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Dufus, you can’t just make up shit and claim everyone else IN THE WORLD is getting paid to disagree with you, then pretend you aren’t an illiterate bozo.

You just crossed the line into mental illness.

Can you post a repeatable scientific experiment that consistently shows how doubling CO2 at these absurd low levels raises temperatures???