H2O vs. CO2 Yet another observation the AGW Cult will ignore

[jc456]

Again, here's the fourth-grade level explanation. Yes, I know, that puts it way over the head of Frank and jc and EMH.

H2O vapor alone can't drive temperature, because it rains out so quickly.

CO2 doesn't rain out, so it controls temperature.

Temperature controls water vapor. CO2 makes it warmer, that makes for more water vapor, that makes it warmer still.

In the short term, CO2 is the forcing, water vapor is the feedback.

You know what to do now, deniers. Troll! Troll! Troll!

What does co2 do?

 

[jc456]

Again, here's the fourth-grade level explanation. Yes, I know, that puts it way over the head of Frank and jc and EMH.

H2O vapor alone can't drive temperature, because it rains out so quickly.

CO2 doesn't rain out, so it controls temperature.

Temperature controls water vapor. CO2 makes it warmer, that makes for more water vapor, that makes it warmer still.

In the short term, CO2 is the forcing, water vapor is the feedback.

You know what to do now, deniers. Troll! Troll! Troll!

My experience suggests it’s you trolling us

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Again, here's the fourth-grade level explanation. Yes, I know, that puts it way over the head of Frank and jc and EMH.

H2O vapor alone can't drive temperature, because it rains out so quickly.

CO2 doesn't rain out, so it controls temperature.

Temperature controls water vapor. CO2 makes it warmer, that makes for more water vapor, that makes it warmer still.

In the short term, CO2 is the forcing, water vapor is the feedback.

You know what to do now, deniers. Troll! Troll! Troll!

Two choices: Show me the AGW experiment testing for an additional 120PPM of CO2 or, STFU

 

[Dagosa]

Listen to this guy for your answer..

George Carlin is your go to answer guy ? What does he say about cancer treatments ?

 

[Dagosa]

It means absolutely nothing to science

So the smartest people on earth all agreeing on something doesn't mean anything. You’d rather listen to the dumbest people because why ? Oh, it’s hard for your little brains to process anything that doesn't come with pictures. Got it.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

So the smartest people on earth all agreeing on something doesn't mean anything. You’d rather listen to the dumbest people because why ? Oh, it’s hard for your little brains to process anything that doesn't come with pictures. Got it.

The Flat Earthers had “Consensus” and persecuted their “Deniers”

Sounds familiar?

 

[Dagosa]

The Flat Earthers had “Consensus” and persecuted their “Deniers”

Sounds familiar?

Flat earthers ? oh, tell us more. There was no consensus among flat earthers. They were like you….Fix News watchers.

 

[abu afak]

DISHONEST FRUSADER CRANK was SHUT UP BY THIS POST - THRICE - for WEEKS​

and many pages ago but keeps trying to bury his loss with BS.​

Water Vapor, CO2, and Global Warming​

MYTH: Water vapor is the most important, abundant greenhouse gas. So if we’re going to control a greenhouse gas, why don’t we control it instead of carbon dioxide (CO2)?

This is a common Misconception in the debate over greenhouse gases and the causes of global warming. Both water vapor and carbon dioxide are important greenhouse gases that play a crucial role in atmospheric warming. A greenhouse gas is a gas that absorbs and re-emits infrared radiation in Earth’s atmosphere, thereby increasing temperatures. Which gas then is to blame for global warming and should be controlled?

Water vapor accounts for 60-70% of the greenhouse effect while CO2 accounts for 25% —a notable difference when numbers alone are compared. It would seem then that water vapor should be climatologists’ primary focus. However, water vapor cannot be controlled by human intervention; it is simply a Product of its environment.

The amount of Water vapor the atmosphere can hold is Dependent on temperature. Under normal conditions, most of the heat emitted from Earth’s surface in the form of long wave radiation goes into the atmosphere and out into space. However, the presence of increased greenhouse gases traps more long-wave radiation, which means there is more energy in the atmosphere to warm the Earth’s surface.

As the atmospheric temperature rises, more water is Evaporated from ground storage, such as that found in our rivers, oceans, soils, and reservoirs. The released water vapor becomes a greenhouse gas where it then absorbs more energy radiated from the Earth and thus warms the atmosphere. The warmer atmosphere results in further water evaporation and the cycle continues. This mechanism is known as a Positive Feedback Loop.

Scientists then need to focus on what is causing air temperatures to rise in the first place. Heat from Other Greenhouse Gases is Causing atmospheric Warming, Leading to an increase in water evaporation and compounding the greenhouse effect.
Anthropogenic, or human-derived, CO2 serves as the Primary source of Warming with water vapor playing a Secondary role.
While CO2 occurs naturally in the atmosphere, human interference has interrupted the carbon cycle through activities, such as burning forests, mining, and burning coal. These activities artificially release more carbon from their solid storage to its gaseous state in the lower atmosphere. The rapid increase in CO2 volume has exceeded the amount oceans and vegetation are able to re-absorb. Furthermore, as deforestation continues around the world, there is less vegetation every year available to sequester the carbon. Thus, excess CO2 remains in the atmosphere where it traps heat and stimulates water evaporation."...."

Water Vapor, CO2, and Global Warming | IEDRO​

another Stupid FrusaderCrank post (136,500 and counting) destroyed with One.
He is THEE Stupidest poster on USMB/any MB.
Another Nonsensical post (or dozens) to follow.
He Keeps Pushing this BOGUS thread/LOSS.

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[Dagosa]

It means absolutely nothing to science

How would you know ? Haven’t seen a post of yours yet that was in touch with reality.

 

[Dagosa]

DISHONEST FRUSADER CRANK was SHUT UP BY THIS POST - TWICE - for WEEKS​

and many pages ago but keeps trying to bury his loss with BS.​

Water Vapor, CO2, and Global Warming​

MYTH: Water vapor is the most important, abundant greenhouse gas. So if we’re going to control a greenhouse gas, why don’t we control it instead of carbon dioxide (CO2)?

This is a common Misconception in the debate over greenhouse gases and the causes of global warming. Both water vapor and carbon dioxide are important greenhouse gases that play a crucial role in atmospheric warming. A greenhouse gas is a gas that absorbs and re-emits infrared radiation in Earth’s atmosphere, thereby increasing temperatures. Which gas then is to blame for global warming and should be controlled?

Water vapor accounts for 60-70% of the greenhouse effect while CO2 accounts for 25% —a notable difference when numbers alone are compared. It would seem then that water vapor should be climatologists’ primary focus. However, water vapor cannot be controlled by human intervention; it is simply a Product of its environment.

The amount of Water vapor the atmosphere can hold is Dependent on temperature. Under normal conditions, most of the heat emitted from Earth’s surface in the form of long wave radiation goes into the atmosphere and out into space. However, the presence of increased greenhouse gases traps more long-wave radiation, which means there is more energy in the atmosphere to warm the Earth’s surface.

As the atmospheric temperature rises, more water is Evaporated from ground storage, such as that found in our rivers, oceans, soils, and reservoirs. The released water vapor becomes a greenhouse gas where it then absorbs more energy radiated from the Earth and thus warms the atmosphere. The warmer atmosphere results in further water evaporation and the cycle continues. This mechanism is known as a Positive Feedback Loop.

Scientists then need to focus on what is causing air temperatures to rise in the first place. Heat from Other Greenhouse Gases is Causing atmospheric Warming, Leading to an increase in water evaporation and compounding the greenhouse effect.
Anthropogenic, or human-derived, CO2 serves as the Primary source of Warming with water vapor playing a Secondary role.
While CO2 occurs naturally in the atmosphere, human interference has interrupted the carbon cycle through activities, such as burning forests, mining, and burning coal. These activities artificially release more carbon from their solid storage to its gaseous state in the lower atmosphere. The rapid increase in CO2 volume has exceeded the amount oceans and vegetation are able to re-absorb. Furthermore, as deforestation continues around the world, there is less vegetation every year available to sequester the carbon. Thus, excess CO2 remains in the atmosphere where it traps heat and stimulates water evaporation."...."

Water Vapor, CO2, and Global Warming | IEDRO​

another Stupid FrusaderCrank post (135,900 and counting) destroyed with One.
He is THEE Stupidest poster on USMB/any MB.
Another Nonsensical post (or dozens) to follow.
EDIT: Now he restarted the BOGUS thread/LOSS Again.

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They’re using. “ logic”, that’s short hand for making up shit.

 

[jc456]

How would you know ? Haven’t seen a post of yours yet that was in touch with reality.

I followed science

 

[jc456]

They’re using. “ logic”, that’s short hand for making up shit.

Can two co2 molecules in the atmosphere radiating at each other warm either or both?

 

[Dagosa]

I followed science

Well, you just used the word “ science”.
I‘ve seen nothing in your posts but made shit.

 

[jc456]

Well, you just used the word “ science”.
I‘ve seen nothing in your posts but made shit.

Answer post 252 and let’s see

 

[abu afak]

They’re using. “ logic”, that’s short hand for making up shit.

And you are an Out of Control/can't-help-himself posting Idiot.
Responding to/ENABLING 'jc456' is like hitting a tennis ball against the wall.
It only produces a mindless 8 word rebound. Don't jerk off, Ignore.

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[Dagosa]

Can two co2 molecules in the atmosphere radiating at each other warm either or both?

Dufus, do you even know what warmth is ? It has nothing to do with just CO2 molecules.
Read it and ask a more intelligent question next time.

How Exactly Does Carbon Dioxide Cause Global Warming?

CO2 molecules make up only a small percentage of the atmosphere, but their impact on our climate is huge. The reason comes down to physics and chemistry.

news.climate.columbia.edu

 

[Dagosa]

Answer post 252 and let’s see

I did. It’s a stupid question. You don’t even understand what heat is. Read this again.

How Exactly Does Carbon Dioxide Cause Global Warming?

CO2 molecules make up only a small percentage of the atmosphere, but their impact on our climate is huge. The reason comes down to physics and chemistry.

news.climate.columbia.edu

 

[Dagosa]

And you are an Out of Control/can't-help-himself posting Idiot.
Responding to/ENABLING 'jc456' is like hitting a tennis ball against the wall.
It only produces a mindless 8 word rebound. Don't jerk off, Ignore.

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I don’t see you ignoring….you seem to get off posting stuff they just ignore. They’re all out to jerk your chain.

 

[Dagosa]

Answer post 252 and let’s see

You got an answer, twice. That’s how science works bozo. You reference ligit science research facilities and not make up shit.,

 

[Dagosa]

And you are an Out of Control/can't-help-himself posting Idiot.
Responding to/ENABLING 'jc456' is like hitting a tennis ball against the wall.
It only produces a mindless 8 word rebound. Don't jerk off, Ignore.

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You do realize that long convoluted answer means nothing to a hard right Christian or someone who doesn’t believe in science in general or evolution in particular. .