Guns selling like hotcakes , thank you ladies and mrobama !!

[pismoe]

aww , bra lady had an accident , may she rest in peace . Course , the 12 year old little girl survived unscathed because of the gun that she had in her hand Brian .

 

[Brain357]

aww , bra lady had an accident , may she rest in peace . Course , the 12 year old little girl survived unscathed because of the gun that she had in her hand Brian .

Yes being prepared got her dead.

 

[Iceweasel]

Read on, dummy. Easy access to firearms is not an indicator of safety for women.

No, it makes them safer. You can't understand simple words.

No it doesn't.

You can't understand simple words but people are supposed to think that you can understand more complex issues? And this isn't even complex.

If a woman is armed she's going to have more opportunity to defend herself than one that isn't. The fact that you want to argue the point proves you're a dimwit.

 

[Iceweasel]

Read on, dummy. Easy access to firearms is not an indicator of safety for women.

No, it makes them safer. You can't understand simple words.

Like the woman who shot herself dead with the bra holster? Or maybe the one shot dead by her 2 year old?

Golly, the brain found a couple of cases of negligence so that demonstrates to the brain that no woman is safer with a gun.

You and lonesomelaughter are a couple of Mongloids.

 

[Iceweasel]

Hmmmmm. Women aren't safe unless they are carrying a firearm? Is that what we are to believe?

That isn't what I said, and it wasn't complicated. You're an idiot.

Read on, dummy. Easy access to firearms is not an indicator of safety for women.

Do the women in those countries actually carry guns for self defense...it was only recently that our women started carrying guns in any real numbers....and guns are the most effective way to stop rape.

I think I figured it out. The brain and lonesome want to be able to safely rape women.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Read on, dummy. Easy access to firearms is not an indicator of safety for women.

No, it makes them safer. You can't understand simple words.

No it doesn't.

You can't understand simple words but people are supposed to think that you can understand more complex issues? And this isn't even complex.

If a woman is armed she's going to have more opportunity to defend herself than one that isn't. The fact that you want to argue the point proves you're a dimwit.

Like talking to a 4 year old.

I'm not discussing one of the imaginary self defense scenarios that you and your nutter pals love to hang your hats on. You dummies think women are safer in places with lots of guns. It's a retarded thing to think......and you actually say it out loud.

The idea that easy access to guns is the path to a reduction in rape crimes is not supported by the facts. Do some research.

 

[Iceweasel]

Read on, dummy. Easy access to firearms is not an indicator of safety for women.

No, it makes them safer. You can't understand simple words.

No it doesn't.

You can't understand simple words but people are supposed to think that you can understand more complex issues? And this isn't even complex.

If a woman is armed she's going to have more opportunity to defend herself than one that isn't. The fact that you want to argue the point proves you're a dimwit.

Like talking to a 4 year old.

I'm not discussing one of the imaginary self defense scenarios that you and your nutter pals love to hang your hats on. You dummies think women are safer in places with lots of guns. It's a retarded thing to think......and you actually say it out loud.

The idea that easy access to guns is the path to a reduction in rape crimes is not supported by the facts. Do some research.

Do your own homework, you stupid liar. I'm talking about reality, you're the one pretending it's a different environment. And you do it by dishonestly pretending the debate was what it would be like with no guns. A world we don't live in but even then a woman would be able to better defend herself. A normal 4 year old would run circles around you.

 

[2aguy]

Read on, dummy. Easy access to firearms is not an indicator of safety for women.

No, it makes them safer. You can't understand simple words.

No it doesn't.

You can't understand simple words but people are supposed to think that you can understand more complex issues? And this isn't even complex.

If a woman is armed she's going to have more opportunity to defend herself than one that isn't. The fact that you want to argue the point proves you're a dimwit.

Like talking to a 4 year old.

I'm not discussing one of the imaginary self defense scenarios that you and your nutter pals love to hang your hats on. You dummies think women are safer in places with lots of guns. It's a retarded thing to think......and you actually say it out loud.

The idea that easy access to guns is the path to a reduction in rape crimes is not supported by the facts. Do some research.

I have done research......

Guns Effective Defense Against Rape

A woman using a gun is less likely to be raped and more likely to not be injured during the attack....

Guns Effective Defense Against Rape

However, most recent studies with improved methodology are consistently showing that the more forceful the resistance, the lower the risk of a completed rape, with no increase in physical injury. Sarah Ullman's original research (Journal of Interpersonal Violence, 1998) and critical review of past studies (Criminal Justice and Behavior, 1997) are especially valuable in solidifying this conclusion.

I wish to single out one particular subtype of physical resistance: Use of a weapon, and especially a firearm, is statistically a woman's best means of resistance, greatly enhancing her odds of escaping both rape and injury, compared to any other strategy of physical or verbal resistance. This conclusion is drawn from four types of information.

First, a 1989 study (Furby, Journal of Interpersonal Violence) found that both male and female survey respondents judged a gun to be the most effective means that a potential rape victim could use to fend off the assault. Rape "experts" considered it a close second, after eye-gouging.

Second, raw data from the 1979-1985 installments of the Justice Department's annual National Crime Victim Survey show that when a woman resists a stranger rape with a gun, the probability of completion was 0.1 percent and of victim injury 0.0 percent, compared to 31 percent and 40 percent, respectively, for all stranger rapes (Kleck, Social Problems, 1990).

Third, a recent paper (Southwick, Journal of Criminal Justice, 2000) analyzed victim resistance to violent crimes generally, with robbery, aggravated assault and rape considered together. Women who resisted with a gun were 2.5 times more likely to escape without injury than those who did not resist and 4 times more likely to escape uninjured than those who resisted with any means other than a gun. Similarly, their property losses in a robbery were reduced more than six-fold and almost three-fold, respectively, compared to the other categories of resistance strategy.

Fourth, we have two studies in the last 20 years that directly address the outcomes of women who resist attempted rape with a weapon. (Lizotte, Journal of Quantitative Criminology, 1986; Kleck, Social Problems, 1990.) The former concludes,"Further, women who resist rape with a gun or knife dramatically decrease their probability of completion." (Lizotte did not analyze victim injuries apart from the rape itself.) The latter concludes that "resistance with a gun or knife is the most effective form of resistance for preventing completion of a rape"; this is accomplished "without creating any significant additional risk of other injury."

The best conclusion from available scientific data, then, is when avoidance of rape has failed and one must choose between being raped and resisting, a woman's best option is to resist with a gun in her hands.

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So, again a woman's best chance for stopping the rape and ultimately surviving the situation is to use a gun.....

 

[LoneLaugher]

Idiots.

 

[2aguy]

Idiots.

Ah....great retort........when faced with actual research....call the other side idiots...do you lefties go to school to learn that debate technique....?

 

[LoneLaugher]

Idiots.

Ah....great retort........when faced with actual research....call the other side idiots...do you lefties go to school to learn that debate technique....?

Where are more women raped per capita.....the USA or Japan?

 

[2aguy]

I would think the U.S.....completely different culture...they also have less crime in general...they are very reverent of the State and police....the conviction rate for crimes over there is over 90% and they can stop and search you or your home whenever they want.....also, they can coerce confessions without penalty....

So...different culture.....

 

[LoneLaugher]

The Impact of Right to Carry Laws and the NRC Report The Latest Lessons for the Empirical Evaluation of Law and Policy by Abhay Aneja John J. Donohue Alexandria Zhang SSRN

 

[LoneLaugher]

I would think the U.S.....completely different culture...they also have less crime in general...they are very reverent of the State and police....the conviction rate for crimes over there is over 90% and they can stop and search you or your home whenever they want.....also, they can coerce confessions without penalty....

So...different culture.....

Who told you that shit?

 

[2aguy]

I would think the U.S.....completely different culture...they also have less crime in general...they are very reverent of the State and police....the conviction rate for crimes over there is over 90% and they can stop and search you or your home whenever they want.....also, they can coerce confessions without penalty....

So...different culture.....

Who told you that shit?

Well...this guy...who actually researched Japanese gun control and police methods....

Japan Gun Control and People Control


Robbery in Japan is about as rare as murder. Japan's annual robbery rate is 1.8 per 100,000 inhabitants; America's is 205.4. Do the gun banners have the argument won when they point to these statistics? No, they don't. A realistic examination of Japanese culture leads to the conclusion that gun control has little, if anything, to do with Japan's low crime rates. Japan's lack of crime is more the result of the very extensive powers of the Japanese police, and the distinctive relation of the Japanese citizenry to authority. Further, none of the reasons which have made gun control succeed in Japan (in terms of disarming citizens) exist in the U.S.

The Japanese criminal justice system bears more heavily on a suspect than any other system in an industrial democratic nation. One American found this out when he was arrested in Okinawa for possessing marijuana: he was interrogated for days without an attorney, and signed a confession written in Japanese that he could not read. He met his lawyer for the first time at his trial, which took 30 minutes.

Unlike in the United States, where the Miranda rule limits coercive police interrogation techniques, Japanese police and prosecutors may detain a suspect indefinitely until he confesses. (Technically, detentions are only allowed for three days, followed by ten day extensions approved by a judge, but defense attorneys rarely oppose the extension request, for fear of offending the prosecutor.) Bail is denied if it would interfere with interrogation.

Even after interrogation is completed, pretrial detention may continue on a variety of pretexts, such as preventing the defendant from destroying evidence. Criminal defense lawyers are the only people allowed to visit a detained suspect, and those meetings are strictly limited.

Partly as a result of these coercive practices, and partly as a result of the Japanese sense of shame, the confession rate is 95%.

For those few defendants who dare to go to trial, there is no jury.

Since judges almost always defer to the prosecutors' judgment, the trial conviction rate for violent crime is 99.5%.

Of those convicted, 98% receive jail time.

In short, once a Japanese suspect is apprehended, the power of the prosecutor makes it very likely the suspect will go to jail. And the power of the policeman makes it quite likely that a criminal will be apprehended.

The police routinely ask "suspicious" characters to show what is in their purse or sack. In effect, the police can search almost anyone, almost anytime, because courts only rarely exclude evidence seized by the police -- even if the police acted illegally.

The most important element of police power, though, is not authority to search, but authority in the community. Like school teachers, Japanese policemen rate high in public esteem, especially in the countryside. Community leaders and role models, the police are trained in calligraphy and Haiku composition. In police per capita, Japan far outranks all other major democracies.

 

[LoneLaugher]

I would think the U.S.....completely different culture...they also have less crime in general...they are very reverent of the State and police....the conviction rate for crimes over there is over 90% and they can stop and search you or your home whenever they want.....also, they can coerce confessions without penalty....

So...different culture.....

Who told you that shit?

Well...this guy...who actually researched Japanese gun control and police methods....

Japan Gun Control and People Control

That guy is a hack. His understanding of Japanese culture is secondary to his desire to promote lenient gun laws. You should read his words with that understanding.

The research that I presented isn't soiled by ideology. You should seek out information that doesn't begin with a conclusion.

 

[2aguy]

The Impact of Right to Carry Laws and the NRC Report The Latest Lessons for the Empirical Evaluation of Law and Policy by Abhay Aneja John J. Donohue Alexandria Zhang SSRN

Ummm.....there are now over 11.1 million people carrying guns for self defense....and the violent crime rate is going down...not up....and the gun accident rate is going down...not up....this paper is crap.....and biased.....

 

[2aguy]

I would think the U.S.....completely different culture...they also have less crime in general...they are very reverent of the State and police....the conviction rate for crimes over there is over 90% and they can stop and search you or your home whenever they want.....also, they can coerce confessions without penalty....

So...different culture.....

Who told you that shit?

Well...this guy...who actually researched Japanese gun control and police methods....

Japan Gun Control and People Control

That guy is a hack. His understanding of Japanese culture is secondary to his desire to promote lenient gun laws. You should read his words with that understanding.

The research that I presented isn't soiled by ideology. You should seek out information that doesn't begin with a conclusion.

yeah...it is....it is anti gun nuttery concealed as research....

 

[Iceweasel]

Idiots.

Ah....great retort........when faced with actual research....call the other side idiots...do you lefties go to school to learn that debate technique....?

Where are more women raped per capita.....the USA or Japan?

This isn't Japan, limpdick. Any woman walking around pretending she's in Japan is just as stupid as you are.

 

[LoneLaugher]

I would think the U.S.....completely different culture...they also have less crime in general...they are very reverent of the State and police....the conviction rate for crimes over there is over 90% and they can stop and search you or your home whenever they want.....also, they can coerce confessions without penalty....

So...different culture.....

Who told you that shit?

Well...this guy...who actually researched Japanese gun control and police methods....

Japan Gun Control and People Control

That guy is a hack. His understanding of Japanese culture is secondary to his desire to promote lenient gun laws. You should read his words with that understanding.

The research that I presented isn't soiled by ideology. You should seek out information that doesn't begin with a conclusion.

yeah...it is....it is anti gun nuttery concealed as research....

Prove it.