GUNS must GO

[BrianH]

Why do jackasses cling to the other 9 Amendments and then treat the FRICKI 2nd RIGHT of the Constitution as if can somehow be held to different meaning and/or standards.

Here's how I see it. It is 100% UNCONSTITUTIONAL to even require guns to be registered. Why you ask? Because , the Second amendment says "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

I'll let you all look up the definition of "infringe". Therfore, any attempt to restrict ownership of a firearm would be an infringement, and thus UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

Second, if you want to ignore that point, here's another. The 10th Amendment states that... "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Considering that the Constitution does not mention the "power" to control-gun ownership,and delegate that power to the Federal Government, the power to do so is reserved to the state. So in reality, it would be a state decision....HOWEVER, any legislation by the state to restrict gun-ownership would violate every Americans' right under the 2nd Amendment.

 

[Anguille]

GUNS must GO

You cannot talk this way about a member.

We don't play these games.

 

[alan1]

Check out the video survaillance of this home invasion. The owner of the home had a gun. Good thing. (Notice the bullets hitting the windshield)

"Boy, he should have called the cops and let them handle it"....lol Whatever

Police spend about 3% of their time preventing crime, and 97% reacting to crime.
I'd rather be in a position to prevent it myself, rather than wait for them to react to it.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

We'll see how many Canadians flood across the border when the shit hits the fan because they can't protect themselves.

"Guns Must GO?" Really??

Wake up call!!! People have been killing themselves and each other LONG LONG before guns found it's place on the time-line in history. And in fact, I would almost argue that the firearm is more humane than slowly impaling someone to death, and or putting them in the Boogey Box and shoving spikes into their torso and eye-sockets.

If I'm not mistaken, I believe Japan has just as high, if not higher suicide rate than the United States, and they're not allowed to own firearms. The fact is, if someone wants to kill themelves, they'll find away.

As far as accidents go, Why don't we outlaw cars, because more people die every year due to motor-vehicle accidents as opposed to guns.

That's pretty close...

When I was in Japan, we usually took the train to wherever we were heading for our liberty. It was a matter of course that inevitably, some one would suicide by jumping in front of the train... I don't recall anyone there clammering to rid Japan of the trains...

Again, this is not a complicated issue.

Self defense is an inalienable right... it is NOT a right which stems from a social contract, it is a right which is vested in life itself... and as such it is NOT a right which can be taken away. Where an individual, a group of individuals and or a government seeks to disarm an individual or a group of individuals, that group advocating the forced disarming of the other is a real and present danger to their lives and as such warrant destruction.

Push this... go ahead... DO IT!

 

[Harry Dresden]

geezus....if this thread keeps on going Chris is going to spot it.....then Yuke will have a friend....

 

[Diuretic]

STFU or I'll cap your fucking ass

if you think this is stupid, he claims wayne gretzky was the greates hockey player of all time.

Damn right, anyone knows it was the Rocket

 

[Diuretic]

Even at this early phase Im not surprised. Not a single one of you has been able to lodge a logical protest to my post. Sarcasm is the best you can do.

Try to inform yourself.

Take a break and read John Lott's "More Guns, Less Crime" for an eye-opener.

Further, take a look at statistics that separate legal and licensed guns from unlawful.

Next, consider who would have guns if they were banned. And, please, don't say "nobody would have them."

And move to a country where citizens are considered to be adults. Or is this sarcasm?

Psssssst, no-one takes Lott seriously any longer. He has been dismantled. Don't reference him. Just make the point that if someone doesn't live in the US why the fuck should they pronounce on domestic firearms policy. That works.

 

[Diuretic]

Police spend about 3% of their time preventing crime, and 97% reacting to crime.
I'd rather be in a position to prevent it myself, rather than wait for them to react to it.

It's a bit more complex than that but never mind. But you're right. In the US you do need to be armed for your own protection and any calls to disarm the ordinary US citizen is unrealistic.

 

[del]

STFU or I'll cap your fucking ass

if you think this is stupid, he claims wayne gretzky was the greates hockey player of all time.

Damn right, anyone knows it was the Rocket

robert gordon orr was the best hockey player, ever, but there were no flies on M. Richard, either.

 

[Article 15]

My kind of hockey player.


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(but I miss PJ Stock)

 

[michiganFats]

Gordie Howe. That is all.

 

[Anguille]

Ummm ... nobody beats the Hanson Brothers!!
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[007]

It's time that Americans woke up, smelled the coffee and too their collective heads out of the sad. Be smart, be modern, wake up and REPEAL the 2ND AMENDMENT

The United States has by far the highest rate of gun deaths (murders, suicides and accidents) among the world's 36 richest nations!!

* 2,827 children and teens died as a result of gun violence in 2003 (more than the number of American fighting men killed in hostile action in Iraq from 2003 to April 2006)

Americans value their constitution and the U.S. Constitution's Second Amendment deals with the right to bear arms. Here is the price that ordinary Americans are paying for the privilege

* 8 children a day die in murders, suicides and accidents involving guns

* since John F. Kennedy was assinated more Americans have died from gunshot wounds at home than died in all the wars of the 20th century

* Osama bin Laden would need at least nine twin towers like attacks each year to equal what Americans do to themselves every year with guns.

* Murder rates in LA, NY and Chigago were approaching the hightest in the world (30 per 100,000) until moves were made in late 20th century to restrict access to guns to teenagers and the NRA wants these moves reversed.

If Osama bin Laden had had more sense, instead of launching a terrorist attack, he would simply have provided financial backing to the NRA!

What's the matter... scared of us, or just jealous? Either way, fuck off and die. Americans are NOT going to give up their guns. Got it? Good.

You're dismissed ass lips.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Even at this early phase Im not surprised. Not a single one of you has been able to lodge a logical protest to my post. Sarcasm is the best you can do.

Try to inform yourself.

Take a break and read John Lott's "More Guns, Less Crime" for an eye-opener.

Further, take a look at statistics that separate legal and licensed guns from unlawful.

Next, consider who would have guns if they were banned. And, please, don't say "nobody would have them."

And move to a country where citizens are considered to be adults. Or is this sarcasm?

Psssssst, no-one takes Lott seriously any longer. He has been dismantled. Don't reference him. Just make the point that if someone doesn't live in the US why the fuck should they pronounce on domestic firearms policy. That works.

SWEET FANTASY... Tell us Diur, what color is the sky in the world where this DELUSION is TRUTH?

Ya see, in reality here, Lott hasn't been touched... there isn't a single point advanced by Lott that has been refuted... Not one...

Now towards proving that, given that you've made the rather emphatic assertion that Lott has been 'dismantled', then reason is served that you'll be able to give us a few... or say ONE valid example where Lott's position has been shown to be so much as innacurate... Post the SPECIFIC LOTT POSITION>> WITHIN IT'S STATED CONTEXT; SOURCE THE SPECIFIC REFERENCES; THAT OF THE LOTT POSITION AND THE RADICAL LEFTIST DISINFORMATION WEBSITE from which you're lifting... and show the board precisely where Lott got it wrong.

Now a note to the board: Would anyone care to wager that Diur here will offer a well reasoned, logically valild, intellectually sound argument, producing a valid, contexctually accurate, Lott position while sourcing the original Lott source, where upon she can show the Lott position to be inaccurate? AT BEST what we'll get is an out of context Lott position, advanced as a red herring, which is used in the typical misdirection, which is so common ot the ideological left; or the even more popular "Ignore the challenge in hopes that no one notices...'

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Police spend about 3% of their time preventing crime, and 97% reacting to crime.
I'd rather be in a position to prevent it myself, rather than wait for them to react to it.

It's a bit more complex than that but never mind. But you're right. In the US you do need to be armed for your own protection and any calls to disarm the ordinary US citizen is unrealistic.

Well that's a certain truth of Nature... and as such it is true, everywhere. It's just that in some places the idiots there have usurped the means of the individual to lawfully arm themselves in self defense; such as Australia and the UK. But that is the nature of the feminized leftist of which those 'nations' are comprised.

The good news is that when and where another force determines that it will conquer those nations, that the citizenry is disarmed and their respecitve militaries subject to the inherent weakness of the Socialist budget for such otherwise necessary function, that force will readily succeed with the populace being helpless to prevent it... and the folly of their feminzied ways will come to them in yet ANOTHER culktural epiphany, common to the final moments of leftist cultures.

 

[Diuretic]

Pub why the fuck do you bother?

 

[del]

Pub why the fuck do you bother?

he lost the directions for physical masturbation.

 

[Diuretic]

Pub why the fuck do you bother?

he lost the directions for physical masturbation.

 

[007]

Pub why the fuck do you bother?

Well, since the canadian idiot isn't physically present so that someone could screw his/her head off and shit down their neck, a verbal ass whipping is the next best thing.

 

[Yukon]

The way I see it, there are three groups of people who think they benefit from the Second Amendment - hunters, self-defendants, and crazy people who think that they're going to stave off tyranny with their deer rifles.

Most conservatives fall into the category of the crazy-people who will save us from tyranny. They blew their chance when then allowed the government to take away their authority to own machine guns and nuclear weapons. These people, the crazy-people, had a point a long time ago but now that technology has made muskets an ineffective choice for governmental overthrow, let's not let them kid us. Private gun ownership is not going to prevent governmental tyranny, no matter how many times you've watched the movie Red Dawn.