Gruber was merely telling the truth (big mistake!): Democrats MUST lie toget people to vote for them

[mudwhistle]

He confirms what smart people have always known. This is what Democrats think of the American people, especially their own supporters. But you won't see any liberal sycophants on this board admit it even though it's right there in front of them. They are constantly showing us how incredibly stupid they are.

“You want to see how stupid our fellow citizens are? Take a look at last Tuesday night”
- Trey Gowdy, November 11, 2014

According to the net, your Trey Gowdy quote gives you number one billing. Also number two billing on another message board. Both were posted by you.

Which means it's a fabrication.

Here's the quote with the correct context (which you removed) on Tea Party.org:

“You want to see how stupid our fellow citizens are? Take a look at last Tuesday night,” Gowdy said, referring to the sweeping GOP victories in the midterm elections. “Because they rejected you, this bill and this administration.” - See more at: VIDEO Trey Gowdy on Obama He Just Proved That He is Willing to Lie - Tea Party News​

 

[mudwhistle]

“You want to see how stupid our fellow citizens are? Take a look at last Tuesday night”
- Trey Gowdy, November 11, 2014

ed they called you stupid and you say nothing about that but go on the defensive trying to redirect the thread.
They called you stupid, what are you going to do about it?

Nope, Gowdy was talking specifically about YOU!

It's not Gowdy you ******* moron it's Gurber, he is talking about those who supported Obamacare idiots like you.

Gowdy was responding to the Grubercrats.

Gowdy was talking about stupid GOP voters.

I guess stupid has been redefined by Democrats. Sort of the way the keep redefining Global Warming, Universal Health Care, and Terrorism.

 

[mudwhistle]

I expect the Democrats are desperately searching the internet for examples of Republicans using the words "Stupid Americans".

This is how they coverup their wrongdoing. By lying and making counter-accusations.

 

[Wildman]

We need to change qualifying for Presidency to both parents must have been American born / are legal immigrants. Obama is a nice man, But he never ever should have been able to be President. So is Schwarzenegger, but he can't possibly be president. Neither should have Obama. Obama doesn't understand America, he doesn't have roots here and he is outside our heritage. He doesn't understand the zeitgeist, the soul, the heart of America. The people that Obama puts into power reflect his disconnect with American culture.

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PLEASE ! tell me/us exactly what is "nice" about him ?

in my OPINION, he is a 100% pure evil

 

[LeftofLeft]

"Lack of Transparency has its political advantage. Calling it the stupidity of the American voter, whatever"

The chief architect of the signature piece of legislation from the supposedly most transparent administration ever?

 

[mudwhistle]

Colbert Takes Apart Latest Efforts To Dismantle Obamacare Crooks and Liars

Who knew Trey Gowdy thought the American voters were stupid?

I beat Colbert to the punch!

Gruber was merely telling the truth big mistake Democrats MUST lie toget people to vote for them US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

So basically Democrats committed fraud, as I've been saying for years, and it's costing us untold $$$$$, because enough people believed you liars to vote you into power. Seems to me nothing you guys do can be trusted. Amnesty, Net-Neutrality, the IRS, Obamacare, Man-Made Climate Change, nothing can be trusted. The Democrats have made fraud a center piece of their platform.. We're supposedly too stupid to know what's good for us, so you pass laws that force us to do what you want, because we're stupid. Was the banking crisis just a big scam as well????

I've been talking about all of this since before 2008.

 

[edthecynic]

He confirms what smart people have always known. This is what Democrats think of the American people, especially their own supporters. But you won't see any liberal sycophants on this board admit it even though it's right there in front of them. They are constantly showing us how incredibly stupid they are.

“You want to see how stupid our fellow citizens are? Take a look at last Tuesday night”
- Trey Gowdy, November 11, 2014

According to the net, your Trey Gowdy quote gives you number one billing. Also number two billing on another message board. Both were posted by you.

Which means it's a fabrication.

Here's the quote with the correct context (which you removed) on Tea Party.org:

“You want to see how stupid our fellow citizens are? Take a look at last Tuesday night,” Gowdy said, referring to the sweeping GOP victories in the midterm elections. “Because they rejected you, this bill and this administration.” - See more at: VIDEO Trey Gowdy on Obama He Just Proved That He is Willing to Lie - Tea Party News​

As the red highlight shows, the longer quote changes nothing, but in fact confirms my context!!!!

 

[TooTall]

He was clearly talking about the Democrats.

"I would say this to the professor, put down the cognac and the lost writings of J.D. Salinger, you want to see how stupid our fellow citizens are, take a look at last Tuesday night. Because they rejected you, this bill and this administration."

If you don't understand what is written, you are seriously stupid, just as the Professor said.

No, he is clearly naming the stupid voters who rejected the ACA. The "they" undeniably refers back to his "stupid fellow citizens."

Gowdy was telling the Professor, in his sarcastic manner that the voters that rejected him, the bill and the administration were not stupid.

I still think the professor was calling the Democrats stupid, based on who paid him a few million dollars for his lies and deceptions.

“Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,”Mr. Gruber said. “Call it the stupidity of the American voter, or whatever. But basically, that was really, really critical to getting the thing to pass.”

"Those “stupid” people have been extremely generous toMr. Gruber. The Government Accountability Office(GAO) in 2010 investigated the $297,600 that the Department of Health and Human Services paid Mr. Gruberto sing the praises of the health care scheme.

Minnesota, for example, used federal Obamacare grants to pay Mr. Gruberto attend one meeting, participate in a biweekly email list and print a copy of the report, all for $329,000. Wisconsin paid Mr. Gruber$400,000 for the same material, requested by theofficeof then-Gov. Jim Doyle, a Democrat. When the report was presented, Gov. Scott Walker, a Republican, didn’t want Mr. Gruber at the news conference. Vermont is paying him another $400,000. Such a deal!

West Virginia, Maine, Colorado and Oregon have partaken ofMr. Gruber’s services, too, guaranteeing him a tidy sum. The money bought lies and deception. That’s Mr. Gruber’s characterization, not ours. “If you had a law which made it explicit that healthy people are going to pay in and sick people get money,” said Mr. Gruber, “it would not have passed.”

 

[edthecynic]

He was clearly talking about the Democrats.

"I would say this to the professor, put down the cognac and the lost writings of J.D. Salinger, you want to see how stupid our fellow citizens are, take a look at last Tuesday night. Because they rejected you, this bill and this administration."

If you don't understand what is written, you are seriously stupid, just as the Professor said.

No, he is clearly naming the stupid voters who rejected the ACA. The "they" undeniably refers back to his "stupid fellow citizens."

Gowdy was telling the Professor, in his sarcastic manner that the voters that rejected him, the bill and the administration were not stupid.

I still think the professor was calling the Democrats stupid, based on who paid him a few million dollars for his lies and deceptions.

“Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,”Mr. Gruber said. “Call it the stupidity of the American voter, or whatever. But basically, that was really, really critical to getting the thing to pass.”

"Those “stupid” people have been extremely generous toMr. Gruber. The Government Accountability Office(GAO) in 2010 investigated the $297,600 that the Department of Health and Human Services paid Mr. Gruberto sing the praises of the health care scheme.

Minnesota, for example, used federal Obamacare grants to pay Mr. Gruberto attend one meeting, participate in a biweekly email list and print a copy of the report, all for $329,000. Wisconsin paid Mr. Gruber$400,000 for the same material, requested by theofficeof then-Gov. Jim Doyle, a Democrat. When the report was presented, Gov. Scott Walker, a Republican, didn’t want Mr. Gruber at the news conference. Vermont is paying him another $400,000. Such a deal!

West Virginia, Maine, Colorado and Oregon have partaken ofMr. Gruber’s services, too, guaranteeing him a tidy sum. The money bought lies and deception. That’s Mr. Gruber’s characterization, not ours. “If you had a law which made it explicit that healthy people are going to pay in and sick people get money,” said Mr. Gruber, “it would not have passed.”

You just proved Gowdy right about how stupid the voters who rejected Obamacare are, healthy people paying in and sick people collecting is exactly how insurance works! That's how ALL insurance works, nonusers pay in and users collect.

 

[Vigilante]

LooneyLaughter, and EdtheAss have shown just how seriously demented these PAID DNC operatives are... Even after seeing, hearing and watching this prick Gruber call citizens stupid and admitting he LIED about most things, about and in the ACA, they still try to protect this POS, and OCD over how many pages there were instead of the MAIN FACT Obuma and the rest of the POND SCUM DemocRATS LIED to America.... This is SURE to be a 2016 PRESIDENTIAL issue!

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Why do you LIE like this about it being 2700 pages?



Only Subversive scumbags would believe you about ANYTHING you post!

All you are doing is proving that CON$ervatives lie in packs. I posted the link to the complete law which was 906 pages, so everyone who says it is 2700 pages is a liar.

Like I said, the Right are STUPID, not ignorant. The ignorant are capable of losing their ignorance when given correct information, the Right remain STUPID even after being given correct information. The Right are too STUPID to learn.

Eddie is trying to split a hair but failed.
The PPACA is 906 pages, but the total count dealing with the ACA is
"At an average of 1,100 words per page, the 10,535 pages of Obamacare regulations consist of approximately 11,588,500 words."
11 588 500 Words Obamacare Regs 30x as Long as Law CNS News

And there you how the Right continue to lie even after they are forced to admit the truth by moving the goal posts. The lie as originally told was the ACA LAW was 2700 pages that were too many for the GOP to read when it was only 906 pages, about the size of a longer Stephen King novel.

How Reading the 2700 Pages of the Healthcare Bill is Cruel and Unusual Punishment

So how did the GOP professional liars inflate the 906 pages first to 11,000 pages and eventually to 33,000 pages by the 2012 GOP convention? As you can see they moved the goalposts from the LAW to REGULATIONS which aren't written until after a LAW is passed and therefore can never be read before the law is passed. This happens to ANY laws passed by the GOP which also contain 10s of thousands of pages of accompanying regulations, but there is never a peep that the regulations that came after GOP laws were passed were not read by Congress before they were written!!!!!

Stupid the PPACA is not all of obamacare you're spliting a hair that can't be split.
At an average of 1,100 words per page, the 10,535 pages of Obamacare regulations

The 906 page PPACA is the entire BILL.
The pathological liars are claiming the BILL was 2,700 pages. If the liars were claiming the "regulations" were 2,700 pages then according to you that would also be a lie since you claim it was 10,535 pages of "regulations, which also makes Turtle McConnell and many others liars, because they say it is 33,000 pages of "regulations."

All you liars can't be ALL telling the truth!!!!!.

How Reading the 2700 Pages of the Healthcare Bill is Cruel and Unusual Punishment

why don't you stop lying?

 

[mudwhistle]

He confirms what smart people have always known. This is what Democrats think of the American people, especially their own supporters. But you won't see any liberal sycophants on this board admit it even though it's right there in front of them. They are constantly showing us how incredibly stupid they are.

“You want to see how stupid our fellow citizens are? Take a look at last Tuesday night”
- Trey Gowdy, November 11, 2014

According to the net, your Trey Gowdy quote gives you number one billing. Also number two billing on another message board. Both were posted by you.

Which means it's a fabrication.

Here's the quote with the correct context (which you removed) on Tea Party.org:

“You want to see how stupid our fellow citizens are? Take a look at last Tuesday night,” Gowdy said, referring to the sweeping GOP victories in the midterm elections. “Because they rejected you, this bill and this administration.” - See more at: VIDEO Trey Gowdy on Obama He Just Proved That He is Willing to Lie - Tea Party News​

As the red highlight shows, the longer quote changes nothing, but in fact confirms my context!!!!

I guess you have a problem understanding irony and sarcasm. Maybe you would like me to send you some links that discuss the topic. You have to really parse words to be able to maintain that Gowdy actually called voters stupid when he states they were smart enough to reject Obama policies in November 7th.

 

[mudwhistle]

He was clearly talking about the Democrats.

"I would say this to the professor, put down the cognac and the lost writings of J.D. Salinger, you want to see how stupid our fellow citizens are, take a look at last Tuesday night. Because they rejected you, this bill and this administration."

If you don't understand what is written, you are seriously stupid, just as the Professor said.

No, he is clearly naming the stupid voters who rejected the ACA. The "they" undeniably refers back to his "stupid fellow citizens."

Gowdy was telling the Professor, in his sarcastic manner that the voters that rejected him, the bill and the administration were not stupid.

I still think the professor was calling the Democrats stupid, based on who paid him a few million dollars for his lies and deceptions.

“Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,”Mr. Gruber said. “Call it the stupidity of the American voter, or whatever. But basically, that was really, really critical to getting the thing to pass.”

"Those “stupid” people have been extremely generous toMr. Gruber. The Government Accountability Office(GAO) in 2010 investigated the $297,600 that the Department of Health and Human Services paid Mr. Gruberto sing the praises of the health care scheme.

Minnesota, for example, used federal Obamacare grants to pay Mr. Gruberto attend one meeting, participate in a biweekly email list and print a copy of the report, all for $329,000. Wisconsin paid Mr. Gruber$400,000 for the same material, requested by theofficeof then-Gov. Jim Doyle, a Democrat. When the report was presented, Gov. Scott Walker, a Republican, didn’t want Mr. Gruber at the news conference. Vermont is paying him another $400,000. Such a deal!

West Virginia, Maine, Colorado and Oregon have partaken ofMr. Gruber’s services, too, guaranteeing him a tidy sum. The money bought lies and deception. That’s Mr. Gruber’s characterization, not ours. “If you had a law which made it explicit that healthy people are going to pay in and sick people get money,” said Mr. Gruber, “it would not have passed.”

You just proved Gowdy right about how stupid the voters who rejected Obamacare are, healthy people paying in and sick people collecting is exactly how insurance works! That's how ALL insurance works, nonusers pay in and users collect.

But the problem is not only did the administration lie about that but also they lied that Obamacare was designed to cut costs when in fact the entire premise of Obamacare is to jack up prices to discourage the healthy from abusing it. We were promised that costs would be lowered because of Obamacare. Turns out this was total Bullshit.

 

[mudwhistle]

He was clearly talking about the Democrats.

"I would say this to the professor, put down the cognac and the lost writings of J.D. Salinger, you want to see how stupid our fellow citizens are, take a look at last Tuesday night. Because they rejected you, this bill and this administration."

If you don't understand what is written, you are seriously stupid, just as the Professor said.

No, he is clearly naming the stupid voters who rejected the ACA. The "they" undeniably refers back to his "stupid fellow citizens."

Gowdy was telling the Professor, in his sarcastic manner that the voters that rejected him, the bill and the administration were not stupid.

I still think the professor was calling the Democrats stupid, based on who paid him a few million dollars for his lies and deceptions.

“Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,”Mr. Gruber said. “Call it the stupidity of the American voter, or whatever. But basically, that was really, really critical to getting the thing to pass.”

"Those “stupid” people have been extremely generous toMr. Gruber. The Government Accountability Office(GAO) in 2010 investigated the $297,600 that the Department of Health and Human Services paid Mr. Gruberto sing the praises of the health care scheme.

Minnesota, for example, used federal Obamacare grants to pay Mr. Gruberto attend one meeting, participate in a biweekly email list and print a copy of the report, all for $329,000. Wisconsin paid Mr. Gruber$400,000 for the same material, requested by theofficeof then-Gov. Jim Doyle, a Democrat. When the report was presented, Gov. Scott Walker, a Republican, didn’t want Mr. Gruber at the news conference. Vermont is paying him another $400,000. Such a deal!

West Virginia, Maine, Colorado and Oregon have partaken ofMr. Gruber’s services, too, guaranteeing him a tidy sum. The money bought lies and deception. That’s Mr. Gruber’s characterization, not ours. “If you had a law which made it explicit that healthy people are going to pay in and sick people get money,” said Mr. Gruber, “it would not have passed.”

You just proved Gowdy right about how stupid the voters who rejected Obamacare are, healthy people paying in and sick people collecting is exactly how insurance works! That's how ALL insurance works, nonusers pay in and users collect.

It appears you're confused.

Democrats accepted the the lies from the administration while Republicans did not.

I really wonder who is more stupid; Gullible Democrats who fell for it or Republicans who were smart enough to know how insurance works and thus saw through the deception?

 

[TooTall]

He was clearly talking about the Democrats.

"I would say this to the professor, put down the cognac and the lost writings of J.D. Salinger, you want to see how stupid our fellow citizens are, take a look at last Tuesday night. Because they rejected you, this bill and this administration."

If you don't understand what is written, you are seriously stupid, just as the Professor said.

No, he is clearly naming the stupid voters who rejected the ACA. The "they" undeniably refers back to his "stupid fellow citizens."

Gowdy was telling the Professor, in his sarcastic manner that the voters that rejected him, the bill and the administration were not stupid.

I still think the professor was calling the Democrats stupid, based on who paid him a few million dollars for his lies and deceptions.

“Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,”Mr. Gruber said. “Call it the stupidity of the American voter, or whatever. But basically, that was really, really critical to getting the thing to pass.”

"Those “stupid” people have been extremely generous toMr. Gruber. The Government Accountability Office(GAO) in 2010 investigated the $297,600 that the Department of Health and Human Services paid Mr. Gruberto sing the praises of the health care scheme.

Minnesota, for example, used federal Obamacare grants to pay Mr. Gruberto attend one meeting, participate in a biweekly email list and print a copy of the report, all for $329,000. Wisconsin paid Mr. Gruber$400,000 for the same material, requested by theofficeof then-Gov. Jim Doyle, a Democrat. When the report was presented, Gov. Scott Walker, a Republican, didn’t want Mr. Gruber at the news conference. Vermont is paying him another $400,000. Such a deal!

West Virginia, Maine, Colorado and Oregon have partaken ofMr. Gruber’s services, too, guaranteeing him a tidy sum. The money bought lies and deception. That’s Mr. Gruber’s characterization, not ours. “If you had a law which made it explicit that healthy people are going to pay in and sick people get money,” said Mr. Gruber, “it would not have passed.”

You just proved Gowdy right about how stupid the voters who rejected Obamacare are, healthy people paying in and sick people collecting is exactly how insurance works! That's how ALL insurance works, nonusers pay in and users collect.

You are a ******* idiot.

 

[edthecynic]

He was clearly talking about the Democrats.

"I would say this to the professor, put down the cognac and the lost writings of J.D. Salinger, you want to see how stupid our fellow citizens are, take a look at last Tuesday night. Because they rejected you, this bill and this administration."

If you don't understand what is written, you are seriously stupid, just as the Professor said.

No, he is clearly naming the stupid voters who rejected the ACA. The "they" undeniably refers back to his "stupid fellow citizens."

Gowdy was telling the Professor, in his sarcastic manner that the voters that rejected him, the bill and the administration were not stupid.

I still think the professor was calling the Democrats stupid, based on who paid him a few million dollars for his lies and deceptions.

“Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,”Mr. Gruber said. “Call it the stupidity of the American voter, or whatever. But basically, that was really, really critical to getting the thing to pass.”

"Those “stupid” people have been extremely generous toMr. Gruber. The Government Accountability Office(GAO) in 2010 investigated the $297,600 that the Department of Health and Human Services paid Mr. Gruberto sing the praises of the health care scheme.

Minnesota, for example, used federal Obamacare grants to pay Mr. Gruberto attend one meeting, participate in a biweekly email list and print a copy of the report, all for $329,000. Wisconsin paid Mr. Gruber$400,000 for the same material, requested by theofficeof then-Gov. Jim Doyle, a Democrat. When the report was presented, Gov. Scott Walker, a Republican, didn’t want Mr. Gruber at the news conference. Vermont is paying him another $400,000. Such a deal!

West Virginia, Maine, Colorado and Oregon have partaken ofMr. Gruber’s services, too, guaranteeing him a tidy sum. The money bought lies and deception. That’s Mr. Gruber’s characterization, not ours. “If you had a law which made it explicit that healthy people are going to pay in and sick people get money,” said Mr. Gruber, “it would not have passed.”

You just proved Gowdy right about how stupid the voters who rejected Obamacare are, healthy people paying in and sick people collecting is exactly how insurance works! That's how ALL insurance works, nonusers pay in and users collect.

You are a ******* idiot.

Again you prove just how stupid Gowdy said you were! The safe drivers pay for the accidents, the houses that don't burn down pay for the houses that do. The homes that don't get flooded pay for the houses that get washed away. That is how ALL insurance works!

 

[Mac1958]

.

The ACA was pushed through by the barest of political margins under what appears to be false pretenses.

Say what you will about its effectiveness or its value, this isn't good, it's not the way it should have gone.

And now, the cure to this problem may end up being even worse than the problem.

Our "leaders" keep failing us, and we keep apologizing for them.

.

 

[edthecynic]

He confirms what smart people have always known. This is what Democrats think of the American people, especially their own supporters. But you won't see any liberal sycophants on this board admit it even though it's right there in front of them. They are constantly showing us how incredibly stupid they are.

“You want to see how stupid our fellow citizens are? Take a look at last Tuesday night”
- Trey Gowdy, November 11, 2014

According to the net, your Trey Gowdy quote gives you number one billing. Also number two billing on another message board. Both were posted by you.

Which means it's a fabrication.

Here's the quote with the correct context (which you removed) on Tea Party.org:

“You want to see how stupid our fellow citizens are? Take a look at last Tuesday night,” Gowdy said, referring to the sweeping GOP victories in the midterm elections. “Because they rejected you, this bill and this administration.” - See more at: VIDEO Trey Gowdy on Obama He Just Proved That He is Willing to Lie - Tea Party News​

As the red highlight shows, the longer quote changes nothing, but in fact confirms my context!!!!

I guess you have a problem understanding irony and sarcasm. Maybe you would like me to send you some links that discuss the topic. You have to really parse words to be able to maintain that Gowdy actually called voters stupid when he states they were smart enough to reject Obama policies in November 7th.

The Right keeps telling us how great a lawyer Gowdy is, and lawyers make their living by "Words And Phrases." There was no sarcasm, he started like all disrespectful wing-nuts, with an insult, and then came the Freudian Slip.

 

[BluesLegend]

Democrats caught lying again and showing contempt for their own base, I love that.

 

[mudwhistle]

He confirms what smart people have always known. This is what Democrats think of the American people, especially their own supporters. But you won't see any liberal sycophants on this board admit it even though it's right there in front of them. They are constantly showing us how incredibly stupid they are.

“You want to see how stupid our fellow citizens are? Take a look at last Tuesday night”
- Trey Gowdy, November 11, 2014

According to the net, your Trey Gowdy quote gives you number one billing. Also number two billing on another message board. Both were posted by you.

Which means it's a fabrication.

Here's the quote with the correct context (which you removed) on Tea Party.org:

“You want to see how stupid our fellow citizens are? Take a look at last Tuesday night,” Gowdy said, referring to the sweeping GOP victories in the midterm elections. “Because they rejected you, this bill and this administration.” - See more at: VIDEO Trey Gowdy on Obama He Just Proved That He is Willing to Lie - Tea Party News​

As the red highlight shows, the longer quote changes nothing, but in fact confirms my context!!!!

I guess you have a problem understanding irony and sarcasm. Maybe you would like me to send you some links that discuss the topic. You have to really parse words to be able to maintain that Gowdy actually called voters stupid when he states they were smart enough to reject Obama policies in November 7th.

The Right keeps telling us how great a lawyer Gowdy is, and lawyers make their living by "Words And Phrases." There was no sarcasm, he started like all disrespectful wing-nuts, with an insult, and then came the Freudian Slip.

That's not what happened and you know it.

You're only making yourself look foolish.

I think you need to quit while you still have an ass, cuz it's getting royally abused right now.