Greenlanders dreaming of something they will never have

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

How else could one interpret the words “by any means necessary”?

I 'll leave the assumptions and speculation up to you. I don't deal in hypothesis when facts suffice.

 

[braalian]

I 'll leave the assumptions and speculation up to you. I don't deal in hypothesis when facts suffice.

Well, it’s a fact he said that

 

[ErikViking]

They did not say what you claim. All you have is spin and that is coming from an uninvolved participant.

Look, even if you don’t support Donald Trump he is the president of the republic.
So his words ARE what you are saying, and he spearheads foreign policy. There have been no other mitigating communications from US on this matter, only backing up of the statements.

And if you think people outside of USA aren’t involved in US foreign policy, seek help.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Well, it’s a fact he said that

So tell me what are the limits since you seem to have it all figured out. Should we table military action if Greenland is invaded by Russian naval forces? What about the Chinese? What if Denmark tries to force us to leave out base?

You seem to have all the answers. Put up or shut up!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Look, even if you don’t support Donald Trump he is the president of the republic.
So his words ARE what you are saying, and he spearheads foreign policy. There have been no other mitigating communications from US on this matter, only backing up of the statements.

And if you think people outside of USA aren’t involved in US foreign policy, seek help.

I am getting tired of your hyperbolic nonsense. Sweden best not be involved in our foreign policy. They have no skin in this game.

When the US takes military action to oust the legitimate government of Greenland, give me a call. Until then, you need to sit down, shut up, and mind your own fucking business. Need any further explanation that that? Talk to NATO's Secretary General.

 

[ErikViking]

So tell me what are the limits since you seem to have it all figured out. Should we table military action if Greenland is invaded by Russian naval forces? What about the Chinese? What if Denmark tries to force us to leave out base?

You seem to have all the answers. Put up or shut up!

This is spinning.
What you do now.

You are changing the meaning of what’s been said by adding “what if” scenarios and making some hyperbolic assumptions.

Denmark was your ally, before you turned on them for a shot on rare minerals.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

This is spinning.
What you do now.

You are changing the meaning of what’s been said by adding “what if” scenarios and making some hyperbolic assumptions.

Denmark was your ally, before you turned on them for a shot on rare minerals.

You didn't answer my questions. Until you do, I'm done. You are irredeemable.

 

[otto105]

We do not want to be Americans: Greenland's Prime Minister rejects Trump's proposal

Greenland's Prime Minister Múte Bourup Egede asserted that Greenland cannot be bought or taken, emphasizing the island's right to self-determination. His statement comes after President Trump expressed the United States' interest in acquiring Greenland. Trump's comments have fueled interest in...

m.economictimes.com

Greenland cannot remain independent.. Even what they have now is only an illusion of independence. That doesn't mean they have to submit to tyranny but it does mean they have to make a choice and they need to make one soon.
Without anyway to defend either their waterways or their acreage Greenland's claim to independence is nothing but a fairytale.

Going forward They will not be able sustain any kind of workable economy, provide any real security or even make decisions about the development of their land. Trump is right... in this condition Greenland presents a security threat to North America.

This is not hard to understand.

Hilarious

How has that been working for 300 years?

 

[justoffal]

Hilarious

How has that been working for 300 years?

This isn't 300 years ago dude...this is now

 

[otto105]

You Just don't get it do you? Greenland is defenseless....Trump is giving them some very good advice. This is not the Disney story Brother Bear... This Is the real world where the big fish eat the little fish. This foolish notion of Greenland sovereignty is nothing but an uninformed stupid dream. There is one nation that has the ability to give them lasting Independence and only one. If they can't figure that out then they are too stupid even to be asked.

Shitlers! desire to own Greenland would only lead to more wars.

 

[justoffal]

Shitlers! desire to own Greenland would only lead to more wars.

Greenland will be owned ... And not by Denmark.

 

[ErikViking]

I am getting tired of your hyperbolic nonsense. Sweden best not be involved in our foreign policy. They have no skin in this game.

When the US takes military action to oust the legitimate government of Greenland, give me a call. Until then, you need to sit down, shut up, and mind your own fucking business. Need any further explanation that that? Talk to NATO's Secretary General.

Of course you want people to subjugate quietly to your will.

And foreign policy is just that: it involves other nations.

 

[justoffal]

This is spinning.
What you do now.

You are changing the meaning of what’s been said by adding “what if” scenarios and making some hyperbolic assumptions.

Denmark was your ally, before you turned on them for a shot on rare minerals.

No it's not spinning at all. It is the Geopolitical reality of our current world situation. Greenland is a three year old girl sent to the grocery store at night time by herself.

 

[ErikViking]

No it's not spinning at all. It is the Geopolitical reality of our current world situation. Greenland is a three year old girl sent to the grocery store at night time by herself.

This is the message:
We need Greenland and its minerals. We are going to get it one way or another. There is a strategic aspect too it also.

This is what should have been said:
We see a clear danger from Russia and China on an imminent invasion. We need to act swiftly to keep this area under NATO control. We urge all NATO members to assess their capacity in this matter.

 

[otto105]

Greenland will be owned ... And not by Denmark.

Hilarious


Now drop and give us 50 heil shitlers!.

 

[ErikViking]

You didn't answer my questions. Until you do, I'm done. You are irredeemable.

Should we table military action if Greenland is invaded by Russian naval forces?

Article 5 of NATO goes into effect.

What about the Chinese?

Article 5 of NATO goes into effect.

What if Denmark tries to force us to leave out base?

You already have an agreement with Denmark. What more can you ask for?
(Yes, other countries tend to honor their agreements, it doesn’t change every four years)

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Should we table military action if Greenland is invaded by Russian naval forces?

Article 5 of NATO goes into effect.

What about the Chinese?

Article 5 of NATO goes into effect.

What if Denmark tries to force us to leave out base?

You already have an agreement with Denmark. What more can you ask for?
(Yes, other countries tend to honor their agreements, it doesn’t change every four years)

So we would be justified in using military force if they are invaded. That is what you are saying? Then we agree and you are being ridiculous.

 

[ErikViking]

So we would be justified in using military force if they are invaded. That is what you are saying? Then we agree and you are being ridiculous.

No. Not justified.
You are obligated.

And if that’s what you think is about to happen you shouldn’t really threaten the people in your alliance, you should threaten China and Russia.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

No. Not justified.
You are obligated.

And if that’s what you think is about to happen you shouldn’t really threaten the people in your alliance, you should threaten China and Russia.

We have not done so. It only exists in your imagination. Have a nice life and stay out of the cold.

 

[Meathead]

Stop talking out of your ass. Greenland is protected by NATO and is under no threat from anyone except trump. And he's an extremist idiot.

Let's do a syllogism on this:

Greenland's not independent.
Greenland's security cannot be secured by Denmark since even it's own can't. without the USA
Greenland can have no defence against Russia without the USA.