Greenlanders dreaming of something they will never have

[georgephillip]

Well actually in this case unfortunately the LOJ is going to play a large part yes. You're very wrong about one thing Greenland's future is not for its citizens to decide. That's just completely naive.
If somebody wants to make a story book that always has a happy ending maybe we can find that story there.

I think you are underestimating the changes that have occurred since Trump first entered the White House in 2017 due to the botched pandemic, NATO's lost proxy war in Ukraine, and the murderous, US-enabled genocide in Gaza.

Much of this planet sees US capitalism at the heart of the rot of the "Donroe Doctrine" and its Fortress America grift for the benefit of fat profits for arms manufacturers.

Since 1823 the American ruling class's clear intention to dominate the Western Hemisphere has been grudgingly accepted by most of the world; those days are gone, done in by the laws of economic, political and military gravity that stopped US imperialism in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Trump's "pivot to the Americas" will add Greenland to that list of failed imperial projects instituted primarily to defend the power and profits of the US capitalist class.

Good riddance.

Trump’s empire of chaos and the delusion of ‘Fortress America’ | The Communist

 

[georgephillip]

Why don't you just say, 'Go China!'? It would be much shorter, and that's what you're really supporting.

China is not enabling a proxy war in Ukraine or the genocide in Gaza, is it?

The American Empire is to blame for both crimes against humanity, and that's the bad news.

The good news?

It is ending.

"MAGA may well mark the beginning of the end of the American empire.

"Empires are not just about seizing or controlling territory, least of all Greenland and Panama..."

"His (Trump's) behavior is more that of a young power on the way up – for example Kaiser Wilhelm II in 1914, with its own tragic results – than a mature empire past its peak but with huge reserves of influence and goodwill.

"The US cannot reverse its relative decline but its influence is best maintained by doing so gracefully and holding fast to old friends and to the treaties which keep strategic as well as trade peace.

"That is not going to happen over the next four years, if ever."

MAGA and the End of Empire

 

[playtime]

I think Israel supports Trump
He will help Israel build casinos in Gaza

true. it's the gov'ment of israel --- the people know bibi is just as corrupt & tyrannical as donny.

 

[OldFlame]

China is not enabling a proxy war in Ukraine or the genocide in Gaza, is it?

The American Empire is to blame for both crimes against humanity, and that's the bad news.

The good news?

It is ending.

"MAGA may well mark the beginning of the end of the American empire.

"Empires are not just about seizing or controlling territory, least of all Greenland and Panama..."

"His (Trump's) behavior is more that of a young power on the way up – for example Kaiser Wilhelm II in 1914, with its own tragic results – than a mature empire past its peak but with huge reserves of influence and goodwill.

"The US cannot reverse its relative decline but its influence is best maintained by doing so gracefully and holding fast to old friends and to the treaties which keep strategic as well as trade peace.

"That is not going to happen over the next four years, if ever."

MAGA and the End of Empire

Everything you say is pure bullshit, and complete deflection. The topic is Greenland, and you'd prefer the Chinese move in there as opposed to the Trump admin brokering a deal with them because you're a mindless, adolescent child who would prefer to hurt your own country in favor of bashing someone you hate. In short, a traitor.


China is not enabling a proxy war in Ukraine or the genocide in Gaza, is it?

No, that was your party that did both using the feckless Biden admin.

 

[rightwinger]

Everything you say is pure bullshit, and complete deflection. The topic is Greenland, and you'd prefer the Chinese move in there as opposed to the Trump admin brokering a deal with them because you're a mindless, adolescent child who would prefer to hurt your own country in favor of bashing someone you hate. In short, a traitor.


China is not enabling a proxy war in Ukraine or the genocide in Gaza, is it?

No, that was your party that did both using the feckless Biden admin.

There is no evidence that China is looking to enter Greenland….
A Trump fantasy

The only one threatening Greenland is Trump

 

[OldFlame]

There is no evidence that China is looking to enter Greenland….
A Trump fantasy

The only one threatening Greenland is Trump

Says the fool.

 

[rightwinger]

Says the fool.

Oh…I forgot

Trump says it is happening
He never needs any evidence it is true

 

[OldFlame]

Oh…I forgot

Trump says it is happening
He never needs any evidence it is true

Their drive for dominance over global resources has a history going back over a decade, and they've made great strides in establishing that dominance. Fool.

 

[georgephillip]

Everything you say is pure bullshit, and complete deflection. The topic is Greenland, and you'd prefer the Chinese move in there as opposed to the Trump admin brokering a deal with them because you're a mindless, adolescent child who would prefer to hurt your own country in favor of bashing someone you hate. In short, a traitor.

I would prefer Greenland's voters decide democratically how much business they want their government to conduct with Russia, China, and/or the US.

The mindless American "patriots" who constantly vomit up excuses for their government's human rights violations from Korea to Kandahar make adolescence look like enlightenment by comparison.

The US empire is crumbling just like every other abomination in world history, and all your simple-minded WHINING in protest won't change anything.

Opinion: Opinion | Just Like Rome, The American Empire Is Crumbling From Within

"Washington DC – America's Rome?​

"The parallels between Washington DC. and Rome—in terms of trappings of power, grandeur and diplomacy—are unmistakable.

"Much like ancient Rome, Washington is a beacon of authority where world leaders arrive to pay respects and seek influence.

"From the remote reaches of Britannia to the deserts of Egypt, emissaries once travelled to Rome to bask in its glory and secure the emperor's favour.

"In its own way, Washington DC appears to be the heir to this imperial aura, with diplomats, heads of state and dignitaries flocking to its corridors to align themselves with American power."

 

[eagle1462010]

I would prefer Greenland's voters decide democratically how much business they want their government to conduct with Russia, China, and/or the US.

And you just showed who you support with that comment.

Ivan?

 

[Zincwarrior]

I guess some people don’t mind being subjects. Others do

Like millions of Ukrainians.

 

[eagle1462010]

Like millions of Ukrainians.

That War is over access to the Black Sea and nothing else.

 

[georgephillip]

China is not enabling a proxy war in Ukraine or the genocide in Gaza, is it?

No, that was your party that did both using the feckless Biden admin.

I haven't voted for a Democrat or Republican POTUS candidate in over 30 years.

That said, you got this one right since Obama and Biden fomented the violent coup in Ukraine 11 years ago that has led directly to the current proxy war-profits blood bath currently on display.

As far as Palestine is concerned, both major parties have backed the racist, apartheid Jewish State since 8 June 1967, at least:
49 Years On, Still No

 

[Zincwarrior]

Claiming that Greenland presents a security threat to North America is absurd. If the US wants to expand it's military in Greenland, they should be talking to Denmark and NATO.

Frankly we ALREADY have a base there and can ALREADY patrol outside 12 miles. So no difference.

 

[Zincwarrior]

That War is over access to the Black Sea and nothing else.

which is why they are attempting to invade all of Ukraine. OK.

 

[struth]

Like millions of Ukrainians.

Yes,

 

[OldFlame]

I would prefer Greenland's voters decide democratically how much business they want their government to conduct with Russia, China, and/or the US.

The mindless American "patriots" who constantly vomit up excuses for their government's human rights violations from Korea to Kandahar make adolescence look like enlightenment by comparison.

The US empire is crumbling just like every other abomination in world history, and all your simple-minded WHINING in protest won't change anything.

...

Thanks for confirming that you're either a traitor or a foreigner who has no place in this country. It's ironic how you idiots cheer on every other country doing what is in their best interests, but if the US does so, it's suddenly somehow evil and imperialist. People who hate America like you do have no seat at the table, and no voice in anything this country does or doesn't do.

 

[jwoodie]

There’s a nice piece of Ugly Americanism.

There's a nice piece of irrelevant crap. Once the Greenlanders are on their own, they will figure out that becoming a US territory (or equivalent) is the best way to survive and prosper.

 

[TheInfiniteSadness]

WTF are you blabbering about?

On 21 January 1968, an aircraft accident, sometimes known as the Thule affair or Thule accident involving a United States Air Force (USAF) B-52 bomber occurred near Thule Air Base in the Danish territory of Greenland. The aircraft was carrying four B28FI thermonuclear bombs on a Cold War "Chrome Dome" alert mission over Baffin Bay when a cabin fire forced the crew to abandon the aircraft before they could carry out an emergency landing at Thule Air Base. Six crew members ejected safely, but one who did not have an ejection seat was killed while trying to bail out. The bomber crashed onto sea ice in North Star Bay, Greenland, causing the conventional explosives aboard to detonate and the nuclear payload to rupture and disperse, resulting in radioactive contamination of the area.

1968 Thule Air Base B-52 crash - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[georgephillip]

Thanks for confirming that you're either a traitor or a foreigner who has no place in this country. It's ironic how you idiots cheer on every other country doing what is in their best interests, but if the US does so, it's suddenly somehow evil and imperialist. People who hate America like you do have no seat at the table, and no voice in anything this country does or doesn't do.

I have lived all of my 77 years in America, but I don't confuse an accident of birth with a right to violate moral laws and norms in pursuit of maximizing war-related profits for the richest 10% of Americans; apparently, you do.

Are you in denial about how many millions of innocent human beings on the opposite side of the planet have been maimed, murdered, and displaced by America's weapons and hired killers since 1945?

Perhaps you're aware of any other country defining its best interests in a similar way; if so, please share.

I don't blame America.
I blame rich Americans because their vast private fortunes don't exist without war and debt.