Green New Deal

[Cecilie1200]

Yes you brainiac there were electric powered autos and gasification autos that burned trash for power, so why don’t you stfu for once.

And how did those electric cars work out?

The VIABLE means of locomotion used an internal combustion engine. That a farmer somewhere harnessed 20 rats running on a wheel to power his tractor is irrelevant. As frankly, most of the idiocy you post is....

Trains are electric so that is where it ended up..

SOME trains are electric. Noticeably, the ones that have to haul heavy loads over long distances are not.

 

[RealDave]

How is fighting AGW going back to slavery.

A Trumpette & a minimum wage fighting asshoile complaining about how someone pays is just too funny.

What will America be like when it becomes too hot & dry to grow crops in the bread belt?

You ask, I provide. November 2nd, 1922. Arctic Ocean Getting Warm; Seals Vanish and Icebergs Melt.

Global warming 'could trigger alien attack'

Flashback 1989: UN Predicted Global Warming Would Destroy Entire Nations By 2000

FLASHBACK: ABC News Warns NYC Will Be Under Water by 2015 Due to Global Warming and Polar Bears Will Fall From Sky

You keep being a liar & fraud & dumber than shit.

As proof the UN official said "COULD" SOME NATIONS like island nations in the Pacific.

Islands are disappearing: Eight low-lying Pacific islands swallowed whole by rising seas

You are the guy calling scientists a liar because you have been smoking for 30 years & don't have lung cancer.,

These islands are not nations dumb ass. And why is NYC still above water?

6 Lost cities found underwater around the world

Proof that islands are disappearing. Again, the predictions you are mocking said "could" not "would".

No, they said it would just like AO Kotex said we only have 12 years left if we don't do something about climate change. Climate models are wrong almost all of the time, and that's what they base their predictions on.

Mocking women.

This is another example of how stupid you people are.

We have a short period to do something to limit the rise in temps so as to prevent the worst effects.

It takes decades for the Earth to absorb CO2 from the atmosphere. We need to reduce our emissions within the next so many years to prevent these major problems from occurring in the next 50-75 years. We need to act now.

It is truly sad for future generations that their lives are being put in jeopardy just because ignorant5 people like you are too ******* stupid to grasp what is being said by the scientists.

This type of ignorance & stupidity gave us Trump & now it will doom our children's future


**** you ignorant people.

 

[Cecilie1200]

A group of progressive-minded activists and industry experts have proposed that the federal and state governments, together with the railroad industry, invest in a long-term project to electrify U.S. railroads. In a book published in October 2016, Solutionary Rail, a people-powered campaign to electrify America’s railroads to a clean energy future,

And how did those electric cars work out?

The VIABLE means of locomotion used an internal combustion engine. That a farmer somewhere harnessed 20 rats running on a wheel to power his tractor is irrelevant. As frankly, most of the idiocy you post is....

Trains are electric so that is where it ended up..

Trains are electric? Not in this country.

wanna bet?
Electric locomotives are used on freight routes with consistently high traffic volumes, or in areas with advanced rail networks

Give us a link champ.

why do you not know how it's done?
You have never seen electric subway systems?
Diesels engines are going away like the dinosaur because electric locomotives and more energy efficient and cost less to maintain. You personally can't stop progress because you believe fossil fuels are the darling of humans..



Electric Trains vs. Diesel Trains
Though trains are more efficient than trucks, not all trains are equally efficient. Diesel-powered trains transfer about 30-35 percent of the energy generated by combustion to the wheels, while supplying electricity directly from an overhead powerline transfers about 95 percent of the energy to the wheels. Powering trains with electricity rather than diesel has several other benefits, according to the authors of Solutionary Rail:

.Electrification of U.S. Railways: Pie in the Sky, or Realistic Goal? | Article | EESI

You know what's realistic? The fact that people are not going to trade traveling cross-country in a matter of hours for doing it over several days.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Cortez has been very quiet since big reveal...….

No she hasn't. She's been out there, trying to change her story and salvage her mess.

 

[iceberg]

Yes electric cars are coming…..but not everyone will have one in tens yrs,,,,not possible...……
now how are you going to charge them when she shuts off the electricity

No one is shutting off the electricity.,

But there is wind & solar

neither of which can meet our demands of today. while we should continue to develop and subsidize these industries for future energy needs, it's ******* idiotic to say GET OFF THEM IN 10 YEARS!!!

but then just about everything in her plan was idiotic.

 

[RealDave]

Yes electric cars are coming…..but not everyone will have one in tens yrs,,,,not possible...……
now how are you going to charge them when she shuts off the electricity

No one is shutting off the electricity.,

But there is wind & solar

unless you plan to carpet the entire country with solar panels and windmills, there is no way that those can generate enough electricity to power this country. Nuclear might work, but nuclear is evil, right?

There is enough energy rained down on the Earth in the noon time hour to power the planet for a year.

I guess we should ignore it., Silly me.

Free energy. Who would ***** about free energy? Fossil fuel people? Do ya think? They dupe ignorant ***** like you & here you people are lying & having a freaking fit about the NGD.

How stupid are you people?

 

[easyt65]

so - i'm actually supposed to debate or explain what is wrong with "rebuild every building in america in 10 years"? eliminating cows and making people find another source of food? taking our airlines out and building a train over the ocean?

nope. not gonna happen.

Anyone who asks you to debate the STUPIDITY of the call for the complete upgrade or rebuilding of EVERY BUILDING IN THE UNITED STATES is worthy of only 2 things:

1. '?'

2. Turning your back on them and walking away as you just shake your head...

 

[Redfish]

You ask, I provide. November 2nd, 1922. Arctic Ocean Getting Warm; Seals Vanish and Icebergs Melt.

Global warming 'could trigger alien attack'

Flashback 1989: UN Predicted Global Warming Would Destroy Entire Nations By 2000

FLASHBACK: ABC News Warns NYC Will Be Under Water by 2015 Due to Global Warming and Polar Bears Will Fall From Sky

You keep being a liar & fraud & dumber than shit.

As proof the UN official said "COULD" SOME NATIONS like island nations in the Pacific.

Islands are disappearing: Eight low-lying Pacific islands swallowed whole by rising seas

You are the guy calling scientists a liar because you have been smoking for 30 years & don't have lung cancer.,

These islands are not nations dumb ass. And why is NYC still above water?

6 Lost cities found underwater around the world

Proof that islands are disappearing. Again, the predictions you are mocking said "could" not "would".

No, they said it would just like AO Kotex said we only have 12 years left if we don't do something about climate change. Climate models are wrong almost all of the time, and that's what they base their predictions on.

Mocking women.

This is another example of how stupid you people are.

We have a short period to do something to limit the rise in temps so as to prevent the worst effects.

It takes decades for the Earth to absorb CO2 from the atmosphere. We need to reduce our emissions within the next so many years to prevent these major problems from occurring in the next 50-75 years. We need to act now.

It is truly sad for future generations that their lives are being put in jeopardy just because ignorant5 people like you are too ******* stupid to grasp what is being said by the scientists.

This type of ignorance & stupidity gave us Trump & now it will doom our children's future


**** you ignorant people.

LOL, you display your ignorance with every post. Man is not changing the climate of planet earth, never has, never will. The climate has been changing for hundreds of millions of years and will be changing hundreds of millions of years after the last human dies.

Why don't you crusade against pollution, that's a real problem and you don't need the fake link between pollution and climate.

 

[iceberg]

Cortez has been very quiet since big reveal...….

No she hasn't. She's been out there, trying to change her story and salvage her mess.

yea, first the R's stole her info and modified it to distribute. EXCEPT META DATA is a *****. her own team wrote it, by name, timestamp and revision. all there to prove that was a lie.

it was an early draft that was not supposed to go on the website! then the R's didn't steal it and fake it did they?

she can't keep up with her own lies and her "cult" is just spoon feeding themselves the shit sammich while screaming ORANGE MAN BAD.

 

[Rustic]

Yes electric cars are coming…..but not everyone will have one in tens yrs,,,,not possible...……
now how are you going to charge them when she shuts off the electricity

No one is shutting off the electricity.,

But there is wind & solar

unless you plan to carpet the entire country with solar panels and windmills, there is no way that those can generate enough electricity to power this country. Nuclear might work, but nuclear is evil, right?

There is enough energy rained down on the Earth in the noon time hour to power the planet for a year.

I guess we should ignore it., Silly me.

Free energy. Who would ***** about free energy? Fossil fuel people? Do ya think? They dupe ignorant ***** like you & here you people are lying & having a freaking fit about the NGD.

How stupid are you people?

Lol
Free energy? No such thing you gullible moron

 

[Cecilie1200]

Trains are electric so that is where it ended up..

DERP

No stupid, some subway systems are electric, virtually ALL trains are diesel. Hybrid technology started in trains, using 2000 HP Rolls Royce diesels to run generators to drive electric motors on passenger trains is where it all started. But they are still diesel.

That is why there is a move to electrify the rail system. The only thing standing in the way is capitalist who do not want change but they die and things change anyway.

Yes, because capitalists famously avoid exciting new technology and cling to outmoded, obsolete methods to make money. That's why nothing has changed since 1900 . . . oh, wait, that's not true, is it?

 

[RealDave]

I find it truly odd that Progressives tell us exactly what they want to do and then their "supporters" set about telling us what they really meant.

The problem is even if we did all those things on that list, they would still be complaining and wanting more.

Years ago the feds told us that our state is too dirty, so they forced us into having our vehicles tested in the areas where the meter hit the red line. E-Check has cost Ohioans tens of millions of dollars. After ten years or so, they measured the air quality again and found no change. So what did they do? Insist we continue the failed program.

This country coming from a guy that lives in a state that used to have rivers that caught on fire until those “failed programs” stopped them burning.

The difference is that we had empirical evidence chemicals didn't dissipate in the water, and THEN we did something about it. Global Warming is different because we are acting on something we don't know is happening because of man or cow farts. It's a theory. The Cuyahoga river starting on fire was not theory.

Don't use your ignorance as proof something is or is not happening.

Look at any temperature graph. Look at any CO2 ppm graph.


More CO2 in the atmosphere => More green house gas effect => high temps.

PROVEN SCIENCE.

Yes, let's do that.

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Exactly what are you trying to say?

 

[Redfish]

Yes electric cars are coming…..but not everyone will have one in tens yrs,,,,not possible...……
now how are you going to charge them when she shuts off the electricity

No one is shutting off the electricity.,

But there is wind & solar

unless you plan to carpet the entire country with solar panels and windmills, there is no way that those can generate enough electricity to power this country. Nuclear might work, but nuclear is evil, right?

There is enough energy rained down on the Earth in the noon time hour to power the planet for a year.

I guess we should ignore it., Silly me.

Free energy. Who would ***** about free energy? Fossil fuel people? Do ya think? They dupe ignorant ***** like you & here you people are lying & having a freaking fit about the NGD.

How stupid are you people?

LOL, most of that so-called rained down energy falls on the oceans, do you want to float solar panels on the surface of all the oceans?

the stupid person here is you.

 

[RealDave]

Yes electric cars are coming…..but not everyone will have one in tens yrs,,,,not possible...……
now how are you going to charge them when she shuts off the electricity

No one is shutting off the electricity.,

But there is wind & solar

unless you plan to carpet the entire country with solar panels and windmills, there is no way that those can generate enough electricity to power this country. Nuclear might work, but nuclear is evil, right?

There is enough energy rained down on the Earth in the noon time hour to power the planet for a year.

I guess we should ignore it., Silly me.

Free energy. Who would ***** about free energy? Fossil fuel people? Do ya think? They dupe ignorant ***** like you & here you people are lying & having a freaking fit about the NGD.

How stupid are you people?

LOL, most of that so-called rained down energy falls on the oceans, do you want to float solar panels on the surface of all the oceans?

the stupid person here is you.

Only a stupid **** thinks we need to collect all of it.

 

[easyt65]

Yes electric cars are coming…..but not everyone will have one in tens yrs,,,,not possible...……
now how are you going to charge them when she shuts off the electricity

No one is shutting off the electricity.,

But there is wind & solar

unless you plan to carpet the entire country with solar panels and windmills, there is no way that those can generate enough electricity to power this country. Nuclear might work, but nuclear is evil, right?

There is enough energy rained down on the Earth in the noon time hour to power the planet for a year.

I guess we should ignore it., Silly me.

Free energy. Who would ***** about free energy? Fossil fuel people? Do ya think? They dupe ignorant ***** like you & here you people are lying & having a freaking fit about the NGD.

How stupid are you people?

No one said ignore the sources of energy that currently provides 11% of our total energy use in the US. Only idiots, however, demand we 100% stop using fossil fuels, upgrade/rebuild all buildings in the United States...use technology that hasn't been invented yet and spend more money failing to achieve it all, as AOC says there is no chance in hell of fiscally being able to do her own plan.

 

[Rustic]

You ask, I provide. November 2nd, 1922. Arctic Ocean Getting Warm; Seals Vanish and Icebergs Melt.

Global warming 'could trigger alien attack'

Flashback 1989: UN Predicted Global Warming Would Destroy Entire Nations By 2000

FLASHBACK: ABC News Warns NYC Will Be Under Water by 2015 Due to Global Warming and Polar Bears Will Fall From Sky

You keep being a liar & fraud & dumber than shit.

As proof the UN official said "COULD" SOME NATIONS like island nations in the Pacific.

Islands are disappearing: Eight low-lying Pacific islands swallowed whole by rising seas

You are the guy calling scientists a liar because you have been smoking for 30 years & don't have lung cancer.,

These islands are not nations dumb ass. And why is NYC still above water?

6 Lost cities found underwater around the world

Proof that islands are disappearing. Again, the predictions you are mocking said "could" not "would".

No, they said it would just like AO Kotex said we only have 12 years left if we don't do something about climate change. Climate models are wrong almost all of the time, and that's what they base their predictions on.

Mocking women.

This is another example of how stupid you people are.

We have a short period to do something to limit the rise in temps so as to prevent the worst effects.

It takes decades for the Earth to absorb CO2 from the atmosphere. We need to reduce our emissions within the next so many years to prevent these major problems from occurring in the next 50-75 years. We need to act now.

It is truly sad for future generations that their lives are being put in jeopardy just because ignorant5 people like you are too ******* stupid to grasp what is being said by the scientists.

This type of ignorance & stupidity gave us Trump & now it will doom our children's future


**** you ignorant people.

Cut down on cow farts

 

[easyt65]

LOL, most of that so-called rained down energy falls on the oceans, do you want to float solar panels on the surface of all the oceans? the stupid person here is you.

The inter-continental, over-the-ocean Choo-Choos can be equipped with solar panels with 2 - 3 solar-energy battery energy collectors to store the excess energy not needed to run the trains...

B - E-UTIFUL Idea!

 

[Cecilie1200]

Trains are electric so that is where it ended up..

DERP

No stupid, some subway systems are electric, virtually ALL trains are diesel. Hybrid technology started in trains, using 2000 HP Rolls Royce diesels to run generators to drive electric motors on passenger trains is where it all started. But they are still diesel.

That is why there is a move to electrify the rail system. The only thing standing in the way is capitalist who do not want change but they die and things change anyway.

You didn't claim "a move" by a group of enviro wackos, you made the statement that "trains are electric." They are not.

So what some are electric and some are not. Electric motors have a usde you people think everything should be internal combustion driven yet that is not the state of the world.

The point is that electric motors have a VERY LIMITED use, because the technology is nowhere near advanced enough to let it go any further, and certainly not to let it replace more traditional engines in ten years.

 

[Redfish]

Yes electric cars are coming…..but not everyone will have one in tens yrs,,,,not possible...……
now how are you going to charge them when she shuts off the electricity

No one is shutting off the electricity.,

But there is wind & solar

unless you plan to carpet the entire country with solar panels and windmills, there is no way that those can generate enough electricity to power this country. Nuclear might work, but nuclear is evil, right?

There is enough energy rained down on the Earth in the noon time hour to power the planet for a year.

I guess we should ignore it., Silly me.

Free energy. Who would ***** about free energy? Fossil fuel people? Do ya think? They dupe ignorant ***** like you & here you people are lying & having a freaking fit about the NGD.

How stupid are you people?

LOL, most of that so-called rained down energy falls on the oceans, do you want to float solar panels on the surface of all the oceans?

the stupid person here is you.

Only a stupid **** thinks we need to collect all of it.

Ok, so you only want to cover the land with solar panels and windmills. There is continuous wind off the coast of the Kennedy compound why are there no windmills there? and what does it cost to build all those solar panels and windmills? are they free? Solar panels need liquid silicon and it takes a lot of heat to melt silicon, what fuel does that?

I wish you libs would actually think about the practical side of your foolish fantasy world.

 

[Cecilie1200]

AOC placed the Democrats in a tough position - admit to the world she is an ignorant JOKE or back her, proving they are a joke.

They are desperately looking for a 3rd option somewhere in the middle.

She is no more naive or stupid than the Don who had absolutely zero experience before he was elected.

She's vastly more naive and stupid, because SHE is proposing to gut the American economy. I don't recall Trump ever proposing any sort of government takeover of vast segments of the private sector.

So your default of "TRRRRRUUUMMMPP!!!! Stop looking at what the left's doing, because TRRRRRRUUUUMMMPPP!!! Trump makes everything we do okay!" isn't gonna work.