Green energy, is a joke.

This note from the end of your linked article would have been handy.

Editor’s note: RS Components, a Northants, UK-based electronic components manufacturer, commissioned the wind farm capacity research in this article. Energy consumption of each city was calculated using the population of the city and per capita consumption of the country where that city is located, taken from the International Energy Agency. The number of turbines needed was computed as the city’s annual energy consumption divided by the amount of power an example turbine can generate in a year. A Siemens high-capacity 8MW turbine SG 8.0-167 DD was used as an example turbine and an assumed offshore wind turbine efficiency of 41 percent was taken from European Wind Energy Association. Turbine spacing was calculated on the basis of having at least 7 rotor diameters of space between each turbine, as per the UK government recommendation.
It would have been, but you found it all the same.

As you can see in the following pie chart, the % of each form of power production is demonstrated.

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Source...

The point still remains, wind turbine farms take up a lot of space, land or sea... and
0:37 sec mark is the first victim.
 
Pittance of power? Let's see how much coal we need to burn to equal the output of a measly 3 MW wind turbine.

1.12 lbs/kWh

3 MW / 1 kW = 3,000

3,000 x 1.12 = 3.360 lbs = 1.68 tons PER HOUR.

This site estimates that a typical 2.5 - 3 MW onshore wind turbine will produce 6 million kWh every year.

For a 3MW turbine, that's 2,000 full power hours (out of 8,760hrs/yr). That would require burning 3,360 tons of coal. To cover one, 3 MW wind turbine. Pittance?
One measly 3MW turbine actually only produces 1 MW of power

 
One measly 3MW turbine actually only produces 1 MW of power

I took wind's shortcomings fully into account when I used the estimate that it would only produce 2,000 full power hours out of 8,760 hours in the year. It would still require 3,360 tons of coal to produce those same 2,000 fph. That coal, at 2021 prices, would cost over $122,000.
 
When its nearly 120F outside….there is no light breeze. Let alone any “wind” to turn windmill blades. Old ladies stuffed into single wide trailers need AC to survive even 3 days of it.
 
Ahahahah :auiqs.jpg:
Green energy, in particular, wind turbines are an eyesore, expensive, don't last very long, and destroy themselves in the process polluting the environment and killing/destroying ecosystems. But that's not want the Greens will tell you or the WEF wankers.



Go Greta...

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I mean its not like oil wells don't blow out, pipelines don't leak, tankers don't run around, that none of that kills or maims ecosystems, drinking water, etc. That's just oil.
 
Jokes are funny. Green energy is a vehicles designed to destroy the industrial capacity of western civilization as well as our prosperity.
 
I took wind's shortcomings fully into account when I used the estimate that it would only produce 2,000 full power hours out of 8,760 hours in the year. It would still require 3,360 tons of coal to produce those same 2,000 fph. That coal, at 2021 prices, would cost over $122,000.
Except you overstated the actual output by 100%
 
I mean its not like oil wells don't blow out, pipelines don't leak, tankers don't run around, that none of that kills or maims ecosystems, drinking water, etc. That's just oil.
When is crude oil used to create electricity for a city? Keep in line with the context of the OP.
However, yes oil is nasty shit for messing up the environment. Techniques for transporting and extraction are primitive and in the hands of the inept, and your statement comes to fruition.
 
When is crude oil used to create electricity for a city?
The following specifically pertains only to the U.S.

Crude oil is fractionated and refined into fossil fuels which are still used to produce electricity for cities.

What is U.S. electricity generation by energy source?​

In 2021, about 4,108 billion kilowatthours (kWh) (or about 4.11 trillion kWh) of electricity were generated at utility-scale electricity generation facilities in the United States.1 About 61% of this electricity generation was from fossil fuels—coal, natural gas, petroleum, and other gases. About 19% was from nuclear energy, and about 20% was from renewable energy sources.

The U.S. Energy Information Administration estimates that an additional 49 billion kWh of electricity generation was from small-scale solar photovoltaic systems in 2021.2
61% minus the 19.2% generated from burning coal = 41.8% produced from burning hydrocarbon fuels other than coal.
Of that 41.8% one can see that 38.4% gets attributed to natural gas, the remaining 3.4% to "Petroleum" and "Other sources" such as trash to steam.
Petroleum is defined as "liquid" and "fossil" hydrocarbons:
In other words, "Crude oil." However much of that "38.4% natural gas," being also extracted and fracked from that "certain rock strata," counts as "fossil" as well, which is the actual problem.

How much? Good question. Glad you asked.
The vast majority of natural gas in the United States is considered a fossil fuel because it is made from sources formed over millions of years by the action of heat and pressure on organic materials.
So no exact number. Let's just say "The vast majority" will have to do. Well over half. Say at least two thirds for the sake of argument. 0.667 x 38.4% = 25.6%. Now, adding the 3.4% "petroleum" fuel from above yields "at least" 29% of U.S. electricity is currently being generated from non-coal, fossil sources, or colloquially speaking, "from crude oil."

One should easily be able to derive from the above that there's nothing really "clean" about either coal or natural gas. Fossil or extracted shall remain "the problem" until long after we finally figure out how to concurrently sequester at least as much carbon as we extract from below Earth's surface. Trees and oceans can only buffer the impact for so long..
 
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Can you imagine a computer that fits inside one room? They were once big ugly eye sores and were ok. Now they fit in your pocket and are amazing. Green energy in all its forms will replace creating a fire and turning a wheel with the heat.
 
When its nearly 120F outside….there is no light breeze. Let alone any “wind” to turn windmill blades. Old ladies stuffed into single wide trailers need AC to survive even 3 days of it.
Get your old lady a solar panel and power station that can run an AC. When designing a covered electric tricycle for old people here in the deadly North, we include fans that work two ways: the generation of electricity from the movement of the vehicle (or howling winter winds) and the generation of air flow, whether in motion or setting still.
 
Get your old lady a solar panel and power station that can run an AC. When designing a covered electric tricycle for old people here in the deadly North, we include fans that work two ways: the generation of electricity from the movement of the vehicle (or howling winter winds) and the generation of air flow, whether in motion or setting still.

sure, ther may be “a bush fix”. But 6 million living in a city cant all be “off grid”. Almost none are capable to flip a breaker on/off.
 
Far as nukes are concerned, the "Too cheap to meter" gang clearly keeps doing their damnedest to remove this paragraph, thankfully to no avail:
A study in 2019 by the economic think tank DIW Berlin, found that nuclear power has not been profitable anywhere in the world.[22] The study of the economics of nuclear power has found it has never been financially viable, that most plants have been built while heavily subsidised by governments, often motivated by military purposes, and that nuclear power is not a good approach to tackling climate change. It found, after reviewing trends in nuclear power plant construction since 1951, that the average 1,000MW nuclear power plant would incur an average economic loss of 4.8 billion euros ($7.7 billion AUD). This has
never actually been debunked.
 
How much? Good question. Glad you asked.
I didn't, but thanks all the same.

The following specifically pertains only to the U.S.

Crude oil is fractionated and refined into fossil fuels which are still used to produce electricity for cities.

61% minus the 19.2% generated from burning coal = 41.8% produced from burning hydrocarbon fuels other than coal.
Of that 41.8% one can see that 38.4% gets attributed to natural gas, the remaining 3.4% to "Petroleum" and "Other sources" such as trash to steam.
Petroleum is defined as "liquid" and "fossil" hydrocarbons:

In other words, "Crude oil." However much of that "38.4% natural gas," being also extracted and fracked from that "certain rock strata," counts as "fossil" as well, which is the actual problem.

So no exact number. Let's just say "The vast majority" will have to do. Well over half. Say at least two thirds for the sake of argument. 0.667 x 38.4% = 25.6%. Now, adding the 3.4% "petroleum" fuel from above yields "at least" 29% of U.S. electricity is currently being generated from non-coal, fossil sources, or colloquially speaking, "from crude oil."

One should easily be able to derive from the above that there's nothing really "clean" about either coal or natural gas. Fossil or extracted shall remain "the problem" until long after we finally figure out how to concurrently sequester at least as much carbon as we extract from below Earth's surface. Trees and oceans can only buffer the impact for so long..
Fair enough.
In my neck of the woods, Australia the following is used to produce electricity.

https://www.energy.gov.au/data/electricity-generation

Well there you go, I learnt something new.
 
One measly 3MW turbine actually only produces 1 MW of power

Not to forget to mention all the other costs monetary and ecologically involved in the production, transportation, installation, maintenance, generation/outputs (when there is no wind), and potential self-destruction and damage/destruction to wildlife /echo systems. Just for that measly 1 MW of power.
 

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