Gravity and God

Hollie

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As you have decided that you are the spokes-religioner for atheist scientists, I was hoping you could identify those scientists who are actively performing research to disprove your gods or anyone else’s gods.

Otherwise, yes, it is interesting how different societies / cultures fashion gods in their own image. These same societies / cultures even endow their odds with human attributes common to those societies / cultures.
I'm not the spokes-religioner, but going by what I read.

We had Stephen Hawking, but he's dead now and suffering in Hades. His belief in the big bang singularity would not allow for God. Before that it was Victor Stenger. He states he's examined all of the science and history and came to the conclusion that there is no evidence of God. I think it's his atheist faith that led him to the wrong conclusion. We see the same type of denial from the atheists here all the time.

From another thread we have Alexander Vilenkin, but he claims he's an agnostic. However, his logic falls apart when trying to defeat Kalam's Cosmological Argument. I'm not sure if he's the one who brought up infinite sets in mathematics, but that made me agree of infinite temperature and density singularity. However, that doesn't explain the cosmic inflation nor where the energy came from? Now, it's called dark energy.

I'm not sure who and where the argument for the gravity of the black hole came from but that's suppose to become a singularity of infinite density. It's a misnomer as we can't have another singularity. We probably can't have infinite density either, but something like near infinite density.
I’ve noticed an anger and vindictiveness associated with the hyper-religious.

You don’t know if Hawking or anyone else is in some ‘Hades” that is a part of the fear and superstition that terrifies you. It seems your revulsion for those who don’t share your fears, superstitions and prejudices is quite apart from any benefit that hyper-religious views might benefit you.

Kalam's Cosmological Argument is a failed appeal to fear and superstition. It’s long ago been debunked as a desperate attempt for the hyper-religious to shoe horn their gods into a rational discussion.

I have to note that as usual, you use slogans such as, “the gravity of the black hole came from but that's suppose to become a singularity of infinite density”. I would suggest you first avoid getting such slang and from charlatans at creation ministries. Doing so makes you an accomplice to fundie creation ministry sloganeering.
 

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He shows up on ordinary objects, but most of them I don't believe except for the last one.
Good one. Those are more believable than mine :laughing0301:.

Today, the Resurrection and gravity is probably the best evidence for Jesus.
Nothing says evidence of resurrection and gravity better than the jeebus appearing on you toast and jelly in the morning.
 

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How do you know the gods don't play dice?

I'm naturally suspicious of people who presume to speak with authority about their gods.
God doesn't play dice with the universe because we discovered quantum mechanics. Yet, the atheist scientists think that is the way to disprove God. Notice how they get things wrong because of their faith?

The big Caucasian looking jeebus is something of a contradiction to a Middle Eastern jeebus.
He looks more Jewish or Aramean in that statue. Compare it to the Christ of the Ozarks.

Usually, the artists make it look like the people from that country.
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God doesn't play dice with the universe because we discovered quantum mechanics.
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physics is not physiology - of which everything is chance that exists and as a formula between both physical and metaphysical properties presently combined together as an inseparable single being neither atheist nor fundy science has the least bit of clue for its existence. and certainly not the desert religions.
You're coming apart at the seams over this.

That's what Stephen Hawking believed. Einstein also alluded to it. In that case, both he and Einstein were right.
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You're coming apart at the seams over this.

That's what Stephen Hawking believed. Einstein also alluded to it. In that case, both he and Einstein were right.
God doesn't play dice with the universe because we discovered quantum mechanics.
physics is not physiology ...
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how's that bond, coming apart at the seams - what is your formula for physiology and its spiritual content together as an inseparable being that is ever changing - - and your comparison to physics and the universe.

- unhinged by you is more like it. lacking in proof for your fundy worldview ... and mental state of scientific denial.
 

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