Graham Introduces Legislation To End Sanctuary Cities Forever

[ThisIsMe]

Our debate is on whether local and state leaders are interfering with the execution of immigration law like was claimed. That is not happening which is why you cant link a case. And because you think everyone is as dumb as you, you simply decide to type random shit, like people are prosecuted for smuggling. Awesome dipshit. That has not connection to our line of debate. **** off if you are going to be disingenuous.

I’m not the one being disingenuous. I’m showing you a law that says it is illegal to harbor illegal aliens. If a city, elected official, a mayor, a governor, whoever is doing this and they are breaking the law. The only reason why it hasn’t been prosecuted yet because nobody has put forth the effort to actually go after these people. Because this is not happened, doesn’t mean that they’re not in the wrong. It just means that nobody is done it yet.

 

[Dekster]

Don't know if this is an actual serious attempt, or if it's all for show.
It needs to happen. We need to make it clear to Democrats that these safe zones for illegals are no longer going to be tolerated.

Graham Introduces Legislation To End Sanctuary Cities Forever

WASHINGTON – U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina) today introduced legislation to end the practice of sanctuary cities once and for all. Graham plans to seek a vote on this legislation when the Senate considers the fiscal year (FY) 2026 appropriations measure for the Department of...

www.lgraham.senate.gov

Nothing is "forever" with legislation. Anything passed by one congress can be repealed by the next.

 

[BackAgain]

What is your definition of a sanctuary city?

Why worry about anyone’s definition?

Worry about what shitholes like NYC define it as.

 

[candycorn]

Why worry about anyone’s definition?

Worry about what shitholes like NYC define it as.

So you don't know what a Sanctuary city is...pretty evident of how little you understand the immigration issue. Ask one of your sock puppets perhaps.

 

[BackAgain]

So you don't know what a Sanctuary city is...

Not what I said, you moron.

pretty evident of how little you understand the immigration issue.

Wrong again, ya dipshit.

Ask one of your sock puppets perhaps.

I don’t have any as I’ve told you several times. I don’t know about you. You have a familiar style of stupid.

But learnt be overlooked, you failed to address my point. You coward.

What ******* difference does it make how any of us “define” the concept of a sanctuary city, you drooling dipshit? Again, doesn’t it matter how a city like NY or Minneapolis defines it?

Run away you retard.

 

[candycorn]

Not what I said, you moron.

But you can't define it. So I guess that makes you the moron...that goes for your sock puppets too.

What ******* difference does it make how any of us “define” the concept of a sanctuary city, you drooling dipshit? Again, doesn’t it matter how a city like NY or Minneapolis defines it?

Well, in every place except Conservistan, when you want to ban something, you have to define it. Otherwise the whorehouse you live in could be called a sanctuary city if it's up to the cops to define what something is.

Now run along junior. You lost the argument a long time ago.

 

[BackAgain]

But you can't define it.

You’re the one who asked the question. So it must be you who can’t define it.

And it’s more important to know what some anonymous person on the interwebz defines it as rather than how a sanctuary city itself uses that term.

Good point.

Yeah. You’re an asshole.

So I guess that makes you the moron...that goes for your sock puppets too.

No you’re still the moron. And I don’t have any socks. Maybe you need that term defined for you, too, you asshole?

Now run along junior. You lost the argument a long time ago.

nah. You lost it before you started posting. And every step along the way.

Maybe you can blame one of your socks?

 

[MarathonMike]

Don't know if this is an actual serious attempt, or if it's all for show.
It needs to happen. We need to make it clear to Democrats that these safe zones for illegals are no longer going to be tolerated.

Graham Introduces Legislation To End Sanctuary Cities Forever

WASHINGTON – U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina) today introduced legislation to end the practice of sanctuary cities once and for all. Graham plans to seek a vote on this legislation when the Senate considers the fiscal year (FY) 2026 appropriations measure for the Department of...

www.lgraham.senate.gov

We wouldn't have retarded "Sanctuary Cities" if the Democrats were an American Party. Now we need legislation to stop what is sheer lunacy.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Don't know if this is an actual serious attempt, or if it's all for show.
It needs to happen. We need to make it clear to Democrats that these safe zones for illegals are no longer going to be tolerated.

Graham Introduces Legislation To End Sanctuary Cities Forever

WASHINGTON – U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina) today introduced legislation to end the practice of sanctuary cities once and for all. Graham plans to seek a vote on this legislation when the Senate considers the fiscal year (FY) 2026 appropriations measure for the Department of...

www.lgraham.senate.gov

Remember when abortion was all about states' rights?

Now it's inconvenient for Trump, no states' rights any more? Except for abortion, of course.

You can have guns, as long as you're a Republican, if you're Democrat, you'll be arrested.

Etc etc.

 

[frigidweirdo]

We wouldn't have retarded "Sanctuary Cities" if the Democrats were an American Party. Now we need legislation to stop what is sheer lunacy.

The whole of the US is "sheer lunacy".

Trump is "sheer lunacy"... everything he does goes into chaos. The electoral system is "sheer lunacy", it isn't democratic, it's like getting people to write down something on a piece of paper, ripping up the paper, then taping them back together and then throwing some away, and then having a cat shit on one piece of paper and that one is declared the winner.

Two parties is "sheer lunacy".

And the worst of all is that nobody actually wants change. "Sheer lunacy".

"If it's broke, don't fix it".

 

[toomuchtime_]

What is your definition of a sanctuary city?

A sanctuary city is a city that believes it has the right to choose which federal laws it will obey and which it will ignore. It is a city that should not receive any federal funds.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Remember when abortion was all about states' rights?

Now it's inconvenient for Trump, no states' rights any more? Except for abortion, of course.

You can have guns, as long as you're a Republican, if you're Democrat, you'll be arrested.

Etc etc.

It's a completely different matter. Sanctuary cities and sanctuary states are cities and states that are refusing to obey federal law. The last the Democrats did this it gave us the Civil War.

 

[Care4all]

You never asked me to provide anything you just said that it wasn’t gonna happen. I pointed to a law that says that it is already illegal. The only difference is, is if somebody actually starts enforcing it. Sure, you may not have any cases because nobody has taken the initiative to actually persue it but because they haven’t done it doesn’t mean it’s not not illegal.

also:



Apparently there are 4000 convictions under that law in 2023 alone. Feel free to go look them up

Under Biden??

 

[Care4all]

I have a better idea. Require each state to annually file a report stating the number of undocumented immigrants living in the state in order to be eligible for federal aid and adjust aid to that state to only cover people who are there legally. If the state refuses to provide such information, the federal government will us its own estimate to adjust aid, and if the state misrepresents how many illegals it is harboring, that is clear evidence of fraud and federal charges can be brought against the officials responsible. This would require a law to compel the state government to allow the federal government to inspect relevant state documents.

This law would be easier to pass and enforce because polls still show the majority of voters still want the illegals to be gone even as they are complaining about how current policies are not to their liking.

Didn't Texas, Greg Abbott, fly by the Plane load, illegal immigrants to Democratic run cities up north?

 

[citygator]

I’m not the one being disingenuous. I’m showing you a law that says it is illegal to harbor illegal aliens. If a city, elected official, a mayor, a governor, whoever is doing this and they are breaking the law. The only reason why it hasn’t been prosecuted yet because nobody has put forth the effort to actually go after these people. Because this is not happened, doesn’t mean that they’re not in the wrong. It just means that nobody is done it yet.

No. No one is prosecuting it because it is not happening. You are conflating. You dont like that local police arent doing the job of the government. They dont have to. So you call that obstruction. It isnt. As proof I offer up the fact NO ONE is being prosecuted for it. Then you make shit up. Ante up proof or shut up. Only two ways out of this loss for you.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

A sanctuary city is a city that believes it has the right to choose which federal laws it will obey and which it will ignore. It is a city that should not receive any federal funds.

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And now, no longer dos.

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[ThisIsMe]

Under Biden??

Does it matter who it happened under? The point is, it’s the law, it has been used, and it can be used in this situation. Unless of course, you are suggesting that politicians are above the law.

 

[ThisIsMe]

No. No one is prosecuting it because it is not happening. You are conflating. You dont like that local police arent doing the job of the government. They dont have to. So you call that obstruction. It isnt. As proof I offer up the fact NO ONE is being prosecuted for it. Then you make shit up. Ante up proof or shut up. Only two ways out of this loss for you.

I just showed you that there were 4000 prosecutions in 2023 alone for the very law I stated. If a city is a sanctuary city and refuse to abide by immigration law, that means they are harboring and protecting illegal aliens, which is a violation of the law I just stated.

Politicians have been getting a pass for this because…apparently they are above the law, or, nobody is going to go against them, but that can change.

 

[Care4all]

You never asked me to provide anything you just said that it wasn’t gonna happen. I pointed to a law that says that it is already illegal. The only difference is, is if somebody actually starts enforcing it. Sure, you may not have any cases because nobody has taken the initiative to actually persue it but because they haven’t done it doesn’t mean it’s not not illegal.

also:



Apparently there are 4000 convictions under that law in 2023 alone. Feel free to go look them up

From my understanding is that Sanctuary cities or towns or States if there is such, simply do not require proof of citizenship to live there...their dealings with the community do not ever involve with asking for papers...with exceptions for certain govt assistance... because much requires citizenship...non citizens are not eligible...and don't usually apply.

Basically, because they did not invite these people to enter in to the USA illegally at the border, because the towns and cities had no part of that,

and the towns do not know who really is an illegally or not, because that question is never asked by anyone, which gives deniability leeway,

And these sanctuary cities etc, then don't meet the criteria needed to be breaking this law mentioned, imo.

 

[Hollie]

Not going to pass. The federal government can enforce immigration law, but it cannot jail governors, mayors, or sheriffs for refusing to do the federal government’s job for it. The Supreme Court has been clear on that for decades.

Key precedent (settled law, not controversial):

• New York v. United States
• Printz v. United States
• Murphy v. NCAA (2018 – reaffirmed and strengthened the rule)

Under these cases, Congress may enforce federal law itself, but it may not:

• Order state or local officials to participate
• Criminalize their refusal to assist
• Punish them for following state law instead of federal preferences

You make no sense. The feds are not requiring your sanctuary cities to enforce federal immigration law. You leftist ideology is specifically geared to protecting criminals while you obstruct federal law enforcement.