Governing by ransom.

[RealDave]

Donald Trump ended DACA with the sole purpose of holding millions of young people hostage until he gets his wall.

He is telling Congress if they don't want to see these people deported, they must give him his wall.

These are people that came here as children. Many have no memories or contact with their origin country. Many don't even speak the language.

These people committed no crime. Their parents did.

And Trump will punish them if he does not get his wall.

And Trumpettes think this is the way our country is supposed to run.

Who knew that the "art of the Deal" is basic Mafia 101.

. So you take an issue that is fluid, and try to weave it together in some kind of way in order to make Trump the villain ?? I saw the tactic immediately once I read a few lines of your post.. lol

He is the villain.

DACA is people. Many spent most of their lives in America. Many are educated & working & some have family. Working & paying taxes & supporting this country.

Trump might as well hold a babies by the foot & dangle them off the rooftop & demand his wall or he'll drop the kids.

You think that is the way to govern?

 

[RealDave]

If a parent robs a bank, and the dies, and the crime is discovered.

I don't think the kid gets to keep the earnings because "he committed no crime".

What a stupid argument. The fact that they are illegally here means they need to be deported.

What a dumbarse analogy. That's like saying "I like aeroplanes" and you replying "Bubblegum". Two totally unrelated things. Then again, you are a Deplorable.

Not really, you cant say the parents commited the crime, but the kids get to keep the benefits......see if parents rob folks, the kids don't get the money.....so the parents fucked the kids really hard by going to jail and leaving their kids without parents....and no money.......
Same with coming to a country, uproot your kids, and getting your ass kicked out. Kids have no money and no parents

Leftists **** their kids up at every turn, then complain.

I understand how you Ttumpettes think being educated is being fucked up.

 

[beagle9]

They have lived heir whole life here. They didn’t get “money” they are just trying to love their lives in the world that they grew up in. You don’t think kicking them out to a foreign country that they don’t know is punishment? Of course it is. Gain a little empathy man. Put yourself in their shoes. ******* amazing that you don’t get it.

So your argument is now: "But muh feelz!"

Your retorts just keep getting more and more brilliant by the post!

What are you talking about? Do you really not understand my argument or aren’t you just being an ass?

I perfectly understood your argument. It was that you feel sorry for the kids so it doesn't matter that they are here illegally.

What a stupid argument. In fact, it's not even an argument, your feelings are not an argument.

My argument has to do with right and wrong and how good people treat others. Doesn’t have anything to do with my feelings... it’s simple morals which you seem to lack.

I told my congressman to give them green cards only, deport the criminal parents and not allow them to sponsor anyone else and no citizenship. They get to stay and work, the criminals go home and the next generation can be citizens.


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. If deport the parents, then the kids are of legal age, out of highschool, and ready to work where needed in the workforce I hope with that green card.. If not of legal age, then they must return home with the parents, but I think that we should keep up with the family for a little while after get back home to make sure the family is not abused upon returning home. Otherwise just keep up with them through the Mexican government, and get assurances that they are ok, along with proof.

 

[RealDave]

Donald Trump ended DACA with the sole purpose of holding millions of young people hostage until he gets his wall.

He is telling Congress if they don't want to see these people deported, they must give him his wall.

These are people that came here as children. Many have no memories or contact with their origin country. Many don't even speak the language.

These people committed no crime. Their parents did.

And Trump will punish them if he does not get his wall.

And Trumpettes think this is the way our country is supposed to run.

Who knew that the "art of the Deal" is basic Mafia 101.

I don't recall you douchebags crying when Obama held the entire country up for ransom.

When & what was that.

 

[RealDave]

Donald Trump ended DACA with the sole purpose of holding millions of young people hostage until he gets his wall.

He is telling Congress if they don't want to see these people deported, they must give him his wall.

These are people that came here as children. Many have no memories or contact with their origin country. Many don't even speak the language.

These people committed no crime. Their parents did.

And Trump will punish them if he does not get his wall.

And Trumpettes think this is the way our country is supposed to run.

Who knew that the "art of the Deal" is basic Mafia 101.

The DACA supporters are racist cretins

DACA has nothing to do with race.

 

[RealDave]

What a dumbarse analogy. That's like saying "I like aeroplanes" and you replying "Bubblegum". Two totally unrelated things. Then again, you are a Deplorable.

Not really, you cant say the parents commited the crime, but the kids get to keep the benefits......see if parents rob folks, the kids don't get the money.....so the parents fucked the kids really hard by going to jail and leaving their kids without parents....and no money.......
Same with coming to a country, uproot your kids, and getting your ass kicked out. Kids have no money and no parents

The better question per that analogy is if a parent robs a bank and the kid is innocent the car should the kid get punished like the parents... the answer obviously no. We don’t punish people for crimes they are not responsible for, especially children. What’s wrong with you people. This shouldnt be a hard issue to figure out

I don't get where the punishment is. If the kids didn't do anything to get into the country, then it's not like they're losing their investment.

I can see someone not guilty of the initial crime getting "punished" somewhat unfairly if they bought property they didn't know was stolen, since taking the property back would leave them without the property AND without their money, but this is more like taking back the money a bank robber stole and gave to the kids for nothing. The kids would have never had the money anyway so they're basically restoring the status quo more or less.

They have lived heir whole life here. They didn’t get “money” they are just trying to love their lives in the world that they grew up in. You don’t think kicking them out to a foreign country that they don’t know is punishment? Of course it is. Gain a little empathy man. Put yourself in their shoes. ******* amazing that you don’t get it.

Since you're so concerned about them, then you should call your Congressman and tell him to agree to fund Trump's border wall and to end chain migration. If he isn't willing to do that, then we know he doesn't really give a flying **** about the DACA kids. He just wants to bring in as many illegals as possible.

I see you think extortion is the way to govern.

A smart person would be able to convince Congress that his wall was actually needed & worth the expense. That is the way it is supposed to work.

Trump said he would protect DACA during the campaign.

 

[RealDave]

The better question per that analogy is if a parent robs a bank and the kid is innocent the car should the kid get punished like the parents... the answer obviously no. We don’t punish people for crimes they are not responsible for, especially children. What’s wrong with you people. This shouldnt be a hard issue to figure out

I don't get where the punishment is. If the kids didn't do anything to get into the country, then it's not like they're losing their investment.

I can see someone not guilty of the initial crime getting "punished" somewhat unfairly if they bought property they didn't know was stolen, since taking the property back would leave them without the property AND without their money, but this is more like taking back the money a bank robber stole and gave to the kids for nothing. The kids would have never had the money anyway so they're basically restoring the status quo more or less.

They have lived heir whole life here. They didn’t get “money” they are just trying to love their lives in the world that they grew up in. You don’t think kicking them out to a foreign country that they don’t know is punishment? Of course it is. Gain a little empathy man. Put yourself in their shoes. ******* amazing that you don’t get it.

there are 7 billion people in the world, how many do we have to support before we go bankrupt

How much are the DACA people costing us?

Low wages

Welfare

Overcrowding schools

ER care...


Think...

Another ignorant **** Trumpette.

You have no clue what DACA entails.

Why donl't you just Shut The **** Up until you get better informed.

My God.

 

[beagle9]

Donald Trump ended DACA with the sole purpose of holding millions of young people hostage until he gets his wall.

He is telling Congress if they don't want to see these people deported, they must give him his wall.

These are people that came here as children. Many have no memories or contact with their origin country. Many don't even speak the language.

These people committed no crime. Their parents did.

And Trump will punish them if he does not get his wall.

And Trumpettes think this is the way our country is supposed to run.

Who knew that the "art of the Deal" is basic Mafia 101.

. So you take an issue that is fluid, and try to weave it together in some kind of way in order to make Trump the villain ?? I saw the tactic immediately once I read a few lines of your post.. lol

He is the villain.

DACA is people. Many spent most of their lives in America. Many are educated & working & some have family. Working & paying taxes & supporting this country.

Trump might as well hold a babies by the foot & dangle them off the rooftop & demand his wall or he'll drop the kids.

You think that is the way to govern?

Only Michael dangled the baby over the balcony, and he just wanted attention. Everyone wants the border straightend out but the Demon-crats fight it hand and foot, why ??

 

[Vastator]

Donald Trump ended DACA with the sole purpose of holding millions of young people hostage until he gets his wall.

He is telling Congress if they don't want to see these people deported, they must give him his wall.

These are people that came here as children. Many have no memories or contact with their origin country. Many don't even speak the language.

These people committed no crime. Their parents did.

And Trump will punish them if he does not get his wall.

And Trumpettes think this is the way our country is supposed to run.

Who knew that the "art of the Deal" is basic Mafia 101.

These children aren't entitled to the ill gotten gains of their parents crime. Period...

 

[RealDave]

Donald Trump ended DACA with the sole purpose of holding millions of young people hostage until he gets his wall.

He is telling Congress if they don't want to see these people deported, they must give him his wall.

These are people that came here as children. Many have no memories or contact with their origin country. Many don't even speak the language.

These people committed no crime. Their parents did.

And Trump will punish them if he does not get his wall.

And Trumpettes think this is the way our country is supposed to run.

Who knew that the "art of the Deal" is basic Mafia 101.

These children aren't entitled to the ill gotten gains of their parents crime. Period...

Many act more American than most Trumpettes.

 

[beagle9]

Donald Trump ended DACA with the sole purpose of holding millions of young people hostage until he gets his wall.

He is telling Congress if they don't want to see these people deported, they must give him his wall.

These are people that came here as children. Many have no memories or contact with their origin country. Many don't even speak the language.

These people committed no crime. Their parents did.

And Trump will punish them if he does not get his wall.

And Trumpettes think this is the way our country is supposed to run.

Who knew that the "art of the Deal" is basic Mafia 101.

These children aren't entitled to the ill gotten gains of their parents crime. Period...

Many act more American than most Trumpettes.

. Now you're just getting desperate.

 

[RealDave]

Donald Trump ended DACA with the sole purpose of holding millions of young people hostage until he gets his wall.

He is telling Congress if they don't want to see these people deported, they must give him his wall.

These are people that came here as children. Many have no memories or contact with their origin country. Many don't even speak the language.

These people committed no crime. Their parents did.

And Trump will punish them if he does not get his wall.

And Trumpettes think this is the way our country is supposed to run.

Who knew that the "art of the Deal" is basic Mafia 101.

. So you take an issue that is fluid, and try to weave it together in some kind of way in order to make Trump the villain ?? I saw the tactic immediately once I read a few lines of your post.. lol

He is the villain.

DACA is people. Many spent most of their lives in America. Many are educated & working & some have family. Working & paying taxes & supporting this country.

Trump might as well hold a babies by the foot & dangle them off the rooftop & demand his wall or he'll drop the kids.

You think that is the way to govern?

Only Michael dangled the baby over the balcony, and he just wanted attention. Everyone wants the border straightend out but the Demon-crats fight it hand and foot, why ??

Because the wall is stupid & a waste of money.

I thought you people were all against government waste? Here you are supporting it.

How many Americans will have their land taken for the wall. How many Americans will be stuck on the Mexico side of that wall.

Obama increased border security forces asshole.

But hey, build that 18' wall running behind Walmart selling 24' ladders. Brilliant. ******* brilliant.

 

[BluesLegend]

Donald Trump ended DACA with the sole purpose of holding millions of young people hostage until he gets his wall.

He is telling Congress if they don't want to see these people deported, they must give him his wall.

These are people that came here as children. Many have no memories or contact with their origin country. Many don't even speak the language.

These people committed no crime. Their parents did.

And Trump will punish them if he does not get his wall.

And Trumpettes think this is the way our country is supposed to run.

Who knew that the "art of the Deal" is basic Mafia 101.

So? You liberal traitors lost so suck it.

 

[RealDave]

Donald Trump ended DACA with the sole purpose of holding millions of young people hostage until he gets his wall.

He is telling Congress if they don't want to see these people deported, they must give him his wall.

These are people that came here as children. Many have no memories or contact with their origin country. Many don't even speak the language.

These people committed no crime. Their parents did.

And Trump will punish them if he does not get his wall.

And Trumpettes think this is the way our country is supposed to run.

Who knew that the "art of the Deal" is basic Mafia 101.

So? You liberal traitors lost so suck it.

Why should we be silent ass you & your orange hero destroys this country?

 

[BluesLegend]

Donald Trump ended DACA with the sole purpose of holding millions of young people hostage until he gets his wall.

He is telling Congress if they don't want to see these people deported, they must give him his wall.

These are people that came here as children. Many have no memories or contact with their origin country. Many don't even speak the language.

These people committed no crime. Their parents did.

And Trump will punish them if he does not get his wall.

And Trumpettes think this is the way our country is supposed to run.

Who knew that the "art of the Deal" is basic Mafia 101.

So? You liberal traitors lost so suck it.

Why should we be silent ass you & your orange hero destroys this country?

Its your own damn fault you lost the House, Senate, and White House. The people obviously think you people suck at governing so sit in the back and don't do a lot of talking while we clean up your damn mess.

 

[beagle9]

Donald Trump ended DACA with the sole purpose of holding millions of young people hostage until he gets his wall.

He is telling Congress if they don't want to see these people deported, they must give him his wall.

These are people that came here as children. Many have no memories or contact with their origin country. Many don't even speak the language.

These people committed no crime. Their parents did.

And Trump will punish them if he does not get his wall.

And Trumpettes think this is the way our country is supposed to run.

Who knew that the "art of the Deal" is basic Mafia 101.

. So you take an issue that is fluid, and try to weave it together in some kind of way in order to make Trump the villain ?? I saw the tactic immediately once I read a few lines of your post.. lol

He is the villain.

DACA is people. Many spent most of their lives in America. Many are educated & working & some have family. Working & paying taxes & supporting this country.

Trump might as well hold a babies by the foot & dangle them off the rooftop & demand his wall or he'll drop the kids.

You think that is the way to govern?

Only Michael dangled the baby over the balcony, and he just wanted attention. Everyone wants the border straightend out but the Demon-crats fight it hand and foot, why ??

Because the wall is stupid & a waste of money.

I thought you people were all against government waste? Here you are supporting it.

How many Americans will have their land taken for the wall. How many Americans will be stuck on the Mexico side of that wall.

Obama increased border security forces asshole.

But hey, build that 18' wall running behind Walmart selling 24' ladders. Brilliant. ******* brilliant.

. Calm down before you stroke out.. Not everyone supports the wall in the literal form that it might be thought of to take, so compromise is always welcome, but the resistance refuses any of you to participate in the conversation other than ranting and raving, so the new spite wall shall be built. LOL.

If want to participate in government again, then get to it. No one is stopping you all. There is no wall you have to climb over, so what's the problem ?

 

[beagle9]

Donald Trump ended DACA with the sole purpose of holding millions of young people hostage until he gets his wall.

He is telling Congress if they don't want to see these people deported, they must give him his wall.

These are people that came here as children. Many have no memories or contact with their origin country. Many don't even speak the language.

These people committed no crime. Their parents did.

And Trump will punish them if he does not get his wall.

And Trumpettes think this is the way our country is supposed to run.

Who knew that the "art of the Deal" is basic Mafia 101.

So? You liberal traitors lost so suck it.

Why should we be silent ass you & your orange hero destroys this country?

. Not silent, just become productive again.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Donald Trump ended DACA with the sole purpose of holding millions of young people hostage until he gets his wall.

He is telling Congress if they don't want to see these people deported, they must give him his wall.

These are people that came here as children. Many have no memories or contact with their origin country. Many don't even speak the language.

These people committed no crime. Their parents did.

And Trump will punish them if he does not get his wall.

And Trumpettes think this is the way our country is supposed to run.

Who knew that the "art of the Deal" is basic Mafia 101.

The DACA supporters are racist cretins

DACA has nothing to do with race.

ummm check your meds LOL

 

[Vastator]

Donald Trump ended DACA with the sole purpose of holding millions of young people hostage until he gets his wall.

He is telling Congress if they don't want to see these people deported, they must give him his wall.

These are people that came here as children. Many have no memories or contact with their origin country. Many don't even speak the language.

These people committed no crime. Their parents did.

And Trump will punish them if he does not get his wall.

And Trumpettes think this is the way our country is supposed to run.

Who knew that the "art of the Deal" is basic Mafia 101.

These children aren't entitled to the ill gotten gains of their parents crime. Period...

Many act more American than most Trumpettes.

How they "act" is completely irrelevant.

 

[Vastator]

Donald Trump ended DACA with the sole purpose of holding millions of young people hostage until he gets his wall.

He is telling Congress if they don't want to see these people deported, they must give him his wall.

These are people that came here as children. Many have no memories or contact with their origin country. Many don't even speak the language.

These people committed no crime. Their parents did.

And Trump will punish them if he does not get his wall.

And Trumpettes think this is the way our country is supposed to run.

Who knew that the "art of the Deal" is basic Mafia 101.

So? You liberal traitors lost so suck it.

Why should we be silent ass you & your orange hero destroys this country?

Wrong. Your Magic Negro nearly did that. Trump just might be this nations last chance at saving its founders dream...