Gop wants to reduce what private insurance covers and the dims want to end private insurance.

[buckeye45_73]

Why can’t we get Republicans to say what the benefit is of free money to insurance companies for doing nothing other than setting up or denying doctor appointments is?

So you want TO GET RID OF INSURANCE? I'm ok with that, pay for it yourself.....Rdean is now a super libertarian

Dean doesn't want to get rid of insurance. He just wants there to be only one insurance company, run by the government.

Why do all the other advanced countries have cheaper and better healthcare?
Not populated by zero college rubes?
Keep the gov out of my Medicare as the trumpie said!!

It's not cheaper not better.....
I see people from all over the world to the Mayo and Cleveland Clinics, St Jude and LaBohner hospitals.....I dont see people flocking to Canada for medial care....

 

[dblack]

Why do all the other advanced countries have cheaper and better healthcare?
Not populated by zero college rubes?

That's a big part of it, yeah. I sure as hell don't want important health care policy determined by zero college rubes. Do you?

 

[RealDave]

So You think taking away access is not taking it away.

The ACA exchanges offered health insurance policies with subsidies for those households earning less than 4x poverty rate. The subsidies were based on people paying the maximum of 9.5% of that income on premiums.

You really need to learn what is in the ACA because you are making an ass out of yourself on this subject.

A group of mostly Republicans subsidizes a group of mostly Democrats.

That's how Welfare works.

I guess you have never spent much time in Appalachia.

Furthermore you are ignorant of how the ACA is funded.

Really.... do tell.... how is it funded?

Because last I looked up the US Federal Budget, the ACA programs were line items on the general budget, which means it's funded by ...... Medicare taxes, Social Security taxes, Income Taxes, and Corporate taxes.

In short..... us. We pay for it.

So here you are having a tissy firt & you have no clue how the ACA was funded? Really?

How Is Obamacare Paid For?

 

[RealDave]

Why can’t we get Republicans to say what the benefit is of free money to insurance companies for doing nothing other than setting up or denying doctor appointments is?

So you want TO GET RID OF INSURANCE? I'm ok with that, pay for it yourself.....Rdean is now a super libertarian

Dean doesn't want to get rid of insurance. He just wants there to be only one insurance company, run by the government.

Why do all the other advanced countries have cheaper and better healthcare?
Not populated by zero college rubes?
Keep the gov out of my Medicare as the trumpie said!!

It's not cheaper not better.....
I see people from all over the world to the Mayo and Cleveland Clinics, St Jude and LaBohner hospitals.....I dont see people flocking to Canada for medial care....

Rand Paul just went to Canada for health care.

Other countries pay for less.

 

[RealDave]

Why can’t we get Republicans to say what the benefit is of free money to insurance companies for doing nothing other than setting up or denying doctor appointments is?

So you want TO GET RID OF INSURANCE? I'm ok with that, pay for it yourself.....Rdean is now a super libertarian

Dean doesn't want to get rid of insurance. He just wants there to be only one insurance company, run by the government.

so the same thing......so he wants the government to get free money for setting up or denying doctor appointments....i'd rather joe 6 pack do that and not some soyboy fed worker.

The Government is not taking a profit, dumbass.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Why can’t we get Republicans to say what the benefit is of free money to insurance companies for doing nothing other than setting up or denying doctor appointments is?

So you want TO GET RID OF INSURANCE? I'm ok with that, pay for it yourself.....Rdean is now a super libertarian

Dean doesn't want to get rid of insurance. He just wants there to be only one insurance company, run by the government.

Why do all the other advanced countries have cheaper and better healthcare?
Not populated by zero college rubes?
Keep the gov out of my Medicare as the trumpie said!!

It's not cheaper not better.....
I see people from all over the world to the Mayo and Cleveland Clinics, St Jude and LaBohner hospitals.....I dont see people flocking to Canada for medial care....

Rand Paul just went to Canada for health care.

Other countries pay for less.

Oh.....I'm glad you said that, now I know more

Rand Paul headed to Canada for surgery, but will pay out of pocket

He'll be paying for his care in full.

"This is a private, world-renowned hospital separate from any system and people come from around the world to pay cash for their services,” a spokesperson told POLITICO

This private system sounds awesome...we should do it.....
Private hospital and capitalism...count me in!


IO want to thank Dave for bringing this to my attention, so when people want real care in Canada, they go to the private capitalistic hospitals.....who knew????

 

[dblack]

Why can’t we get Republicans to say what the benefit is of free money to insurance companies for doing nothing other than setting up or denying doctor appointments is?

So you want TO GET RID OF INSURANCE? I'm ok with that, pay for it yourself.....Rdean is now a super libertarian

Dean doesn't want to get rid of insurance. He just wants there to be only one insurance company, run by the government.

so the same thing......so he wants the government to get free money for setting up or denying doctor appointments....i'd rather joe 6 pack do that and not some soyboy fed worker.

The Government is not taking a profit, dumbass.

No, but the companies that contract to run Medicare do. Do you think they're doing it for free?

 

[RealDave]

Why can’t we get Republicans to say what the benefit is of free money to insurance companies for doing nothing other than setting up or denying doctor appointments is?

That might be the way it is now.... but that isn't the way insurance works. Insurance is an offset to an unexpected risk.

You pay a premium that is based on a calculated risk of loss. But democraps have destroyed that system. There are numerous examples, but the most obvious is eliminating the pre-existing condition clause.

If I have diabetes, and I know that I'm going to have to buy insulin every single month for the rest of my life.... that isn't a "risk of unexpected loss". That's just a reoccurring bill.

Buying insurance against a completely expected and reoccurring bill, is like buying insurance against your cable TV bill. Or buying insurance against a car crash, before going into a demolition derby.

That's not offsetting the risk of unexpected loss.... that's just you demanding someone else pay your bills.

Well of course that cost of the insurance company paying your bills, has to be passed onto the rest of us, because otherwise the company would go out of business. So you are in fact right. It is just free money to set up or deny doctors appointments..... the irony is, you are the very reason for this.

You caused the problem you are complaining about. It was much better before 2009. I had an insurance policy that was just $67 a month, and it covered absolutely everything I needed. I was happy with it.

Lets go bsck & see if you can buy a low cost policy with that pre-existing condition.

One part of being insured with the ACA is that developing a condition that will require treatment for years to come, you can get coverage in the future without paying extra high amounts.,

Lets go back under the laws & rules of 2009 & see about that $67 policy with that Pre-Existing condition.

 

[RealDave]

Why can’t we get Republicans to say what the benefit is of free money to insurance companies for doing nothing other than setting up or denying doctor appointments is?

So you want TO GET RID OF INSURANCE? I'm ok with that, pay for it yourself.....Rdean is now a super libertarian

Dean doesn't want to get rid of insurance. He just wants there to be only one insurance company, run by the government.

so the same thing......so he wants the government to get free money for setting up or denying doctor appointments....i'd rather joe 6 pack do that and not some soyboy fed worker.

The Government is not taking a profit, dumbass.

No, but the companies that contract to run Medicare do. Do you think they're doing it for free?

So you think hiring those sub contractors is the same as insurance companies losdred with sales & high paid CEOs.

 

[RealDave]

So you want TO GET RID OF INSURANCE? I'm ok with that, pay for it yourself.....Rdean is now a super libertarian

Dean doesn't want to get rid of insurance. He just wants there to be only one insurance company, run by the government.

Why do all the other advanced countries have cheaper and better healthcare?
Not populated by zero college rubes?
Keep the gov out of my Medicare as the trumpie said!!

It's not cheaper not better.....
I see people from all over the world to the Mayo and Cleveland Clinics, St Jude and LaBohner hospitals.....I dont see people flocking to Canada for medial care....

Rand Paul just went to Canada for health care.

Other countries pay for less.

Oh.....I'm glad you said that, now I know more

Rand Paul headed to Canada for surgery, but will pay out of pocket

He'll be paying for his care in full.

"This is a private, world-renowned hospital separate from any system and people come from around the world to pay cash for their services,” a spokesperson told POLITICO

This private system sounds awesome...we should do it.....
Private hospital and capitalism...count me in!


IO want to thank Dave for bringing this to my attention, so when people want real care in Canada, they go to the private capitalistic hospitals.....who knew????

So my example doesn't count because this is a world renowned doctor but you used Mayo Clinic,, a world renowned hospital, to claim Canadians run to America.

You are quite the ass.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Why can’t we get Republicans to say what the benefit is of free money to insurance companies for doing nothing other than setting up or denying doctor appointments is?

So you want TO GET RID OF INSURANCE? I'm ok with that, pay for it yourself.....Rdean is now a super libertarian

Dean doesn't want to get rid of insurance. He just wants there to be only one insurance company, run by the government.

so the same thing......so he wants the government to get free money for setting up or denying doctor appointments....i'd rather joe 6 pack do that and not some soyboy fed worker.

The Government is not taking a profit, dumbass.

Yeah, that's why we get such great service from them. They have a guaranteed job and performance is not important...…
you must have no life to want to speak with govt employees while waiting in their office for hours...….

 

[buckeye45_73]

Dean doesn't want to get rid of insurance. He just wants there to be only one insurance company, run by the government.

Why do all the other advanced countries have cheaper and better healthcare?
Not populated by zero college rubes?
Keep the gov out of my Medicare as the trumpie said!!

It's not cheaper not better.....
I see people from all over the world to the Mayo and Cleveland Clinics, St Jude and LaBohner hospitals.....I dont see people flocking to Canada for medial care....

Rand Paul just went to Canada for health care.

Other countries pay for less.

Oh.....I'm glad you said that, now I know more

Rand Paul headed to Canada for surgery, but will pay out of pocket

He'll be paying for his care in full.

"This is a private, world-renowned hospital separate from any system and people come from around the world to pay cash for their services,” a spokesperson told POLITICO

This private system sounds awesome...we should do it.....
Private hospital and capitalism...count me in!


IO want to thank Dave for bringing this to my attention, so when people want real care in Canada, they go to the private capitalistic hospitals.....who knew????

So my example doesn't count because this is a world renowned doctor but you used Mayo Clinic,, a world renowned hospital, to claim Canadians run to America.

You are quite the ass.

No I used your example and learned about this private system. I even gave you credit, why be a dick? HE went to Canada to use a private hospital(not the typical Canadian socialist one). And the private guy is world renown……..how interesting

You thought you had me, but it backfired, we found out that Canadians have a two tier system and people with care pay cash and get good service, those that use the government, wish they could use the private one...….Thanks again for making it so clear.

 

[ph3iron]

Why do all the other advanced countries have cheaper and better healthcare?
Not populated by zero college rubes?
Keep the gov out of my Medicare as the trumpie said!!

It's not cheaper not better.....
I see people from all over the world to the Mayo and Cleveland Clinics, St Jude and LaBohner hospitals.....I dont see people flocking to Canada for medial care....

Rand Paul just went to Canada for health care.

Other countries pay for less.

Oh.....I'm glad you said that, now I know more

Rand Paul headed to Canada for surgery, but will pay out of pocket

He'll be paying for his care in full.

"This is a private, world-renowned hospital separate from any system and people come from around the world to pay cash for their services,” a spokesperson told POLITICO

This private system sounds awesome...we should do it.....
Private hospital and capitalism...count me in!


IO want to thank Dave for bringing this to my attention, so when people want real care in Canada, they go to the private capitalistic hospitals.....who knew????

So my example doesn't count because this is a world renowned doctor but you used Mayo Clinic,, a world renowned hospital, to claim Canadians run to America.

You are quite the ass.

No I used your example and learned about this private system. I even gave you credit, why be a dick? HE went to Canada to use a private hospital(not the typical Canadian socialist one). And the private guy is world renown……..how interesting

You thought you had me, but it backfired, we found out that Canadians have a two tier system and people with care pay cash and get good service, those that use the government, wish they could use the private one...….Thanks again for making it so clear.

90% of all UK and Canadian systems love their system.
Amazing how having no bills relaxes the mind.
We all can pick examples that fit our made up mind.
Even in the U K you can pay.
The people love their system
How long did you live in the UK?

 

[dblack]

So you want TO GET RID OF INSURANCE? I'm ok with that, pay for it yourself.....Rdean is now a super libertarian

Dean doesn't want to get rid of insurance. He just wants there to be only one insurance company, run by the government.

so the same thing......so he wants the government to get free money for setting up or denying doctor appointments....i'd rather joe 6 pack do that and not some soyboy fed worker.

The Government is not taking a profit, dumbass.

No, but the companies that contract to run Medicare do. Do you think they're doing it for free?

So you think hiring those sub contractors is the same as insurance companies losdred with sales & high paid CEOs.

No, it's different. Arguably, it's much better for the companies. They don't have to mess around with actually satisfying customers or anything. They might not make as much money that way, but they might make more. The important point is that its guaranteed profits. Once they're on the gravy train, all the have to do is stay on good terms with the CMS and they'll get their cut. No board of directors worth their salt will turn down a deal like that.

 

[Ambivalent1]

If you kids actually knew anything about the ACA you'd know that it MANDATES that Companies spend 80 cents out of EVERY dollar collected on claims.

 

[RealDave]

Dean doesn't want to get rid of insurance. He just wants there to be only one insurance company, run by the government.

so the same thing......so he wants the government to get free money for setting up or denying doctor appointments....i'd rather joe 6 pack do that and not some soyboy fed worker.

The Government is not taking a profit, dumbass.

No, but the companies that contract to run Medicare do. Do you think they're doing it for free?

So you think hiring those sub contractors is the same as insurance companies losdred with sales & high paid CEOs.

No, it's different. Arguably, it's much better for the companies. They don't have to mess around with actually satisfying customers or anything. They might not make as much money that way, but they might make more. The important point is that its guaranteed profits. Once they're on the gravy train, all the have to do is stay on good terms with the CMS and they'll get their cut. No board of directors worth their salt will turn down a deal like that.

The point is that these subcontractors will have nothing near that of insurance companies handing the same numver of claims.

The point is we don't have this 3rd party making decisions on whether claims are covered & routinely denying claims.

This is what Medicare for all cuts out & it will save money.

The idea that you think it the same is just ridiculous.

 

[RealDave]

Why do all the other advanced countries have cheaper and better healthcare?
Not populated by zero college rubes?
Keep the gov out of my Medicare as the trumpie said!!

It's not cheaper not better.....
I see people from all over the world to the Mayo and Cleveland Clinics, St Jude and LaBohner hospitals.....I dont see people flocking to Canada for medial care....

Rand Paul just went to Canada for health care.

Other countries pay for less.

Oh.....I'm glad you said that, now I know more

Rand Paul headed to Canada for surgery, but will pay out of pocket

He'll be paying for his care in full.

"This is a private, world-renowned hospital separate from any system and people come from around the world to pay cash for their services,” a spokesperson told POLITICO

This private system sounds awesome...we should do it.....
Private hospital and capitalism...count me in!


IO want to thank Dave for bringing this to my attention, so when people want real care in Canada, they go to the private capitalistic hospitals.....who knew????

So my example doesn't count because this is a world renowned doctor but you used Mayo Clinic,, a world renowned hospital, to claim Canadians run to America.

You are quite the ass.

No I used your example and learned about this private system. I even gave you credit, why be a dick? HE went to Canada to use a private hospital(not the typical Canadian socialist one). And the private guy is world renown……..how interesting

You thought you had me, but it backfired, we found out that Canadians have a two tier system and people with care pay cash and get good service, those that use the government, wish they could use the private one...….Thanks again for making it so clear.

We have a multi tiered system here. You can pay a doctor a retainer & get casre ion demand.
OMG OMG OMG

The pint is you claimed the Canadians have such a poor system that they run to the Mayo Clinic.

Asshole.

 

[Ambivalent1]

It's not cheaper not better.....
I see people from all over the world to the Mayo and Cleveland Clinics, St Jude and LaBohner hospitals.....I dont see people flocking to Canada for medial care....

Rand Paul just went to Canada for health care.

Other countries pay for less.

Oh.....I'm glad you said that, now I know more

Rand Paul headed to Canada for surgery, but will pay out of pocket

He'll be paying for his care in full.

"This is a private, world-renowned hospital separate from any system and people come from around the world to pay cash for their services,” a spokesperson told POLITICO

This private system sounds awesome...we should do it.....
Private hospital and capitalism...count me in!


IO want to thank Dave for bringing this to my attention, so when people want real care in Canada, they go to the private capitalistic hospitals.....who knew????

So my example doesn't count because this is a world renowned doctor but you used Mayo Clinic,, a world renowned hospital, to claim Canadians run to America.

You are quite the ass.

No I used your example and learned about this private system. I even gave you credit, why be a dick? HE went to Canada to use a private hospital(not the typical Canadian socialist one). And the private guy is world renown……..how interesting

You thought you had me, but it backfired, we found out that Canadians have a two tier system and people with care pay cash and get good service, those that use the government, wish they could use the private one...….Thanks again for making it so clear.

We have a multi tiered system here. You can pay a doctor a retainer & get casre ion demand.
OMG OMG OMG

The pint is you claimed the Canadians have such a poor system that they run to the Mayo Clinic.

Asshole.

It's a little early to be drunk son.

 

[RealDave]

Why can’t we get Republicans to say what the benefit is of free money to insurance companies for doing nothing other than setting up or denying doctor appointments is?

So you want TO GET RID OF INSURANCE? I'm ok with that, pay for it yourself.....Rdean is now a super libertarian

Dean doesn't want to get rid of insurance. He just wants there to be only one insurance company, run by the government.

so the same thing......so he wants the government to get free money for setting up or denying doctor appointments....i'd rather joe 6 pack do that and not some soyboy fed worker.

The Government is not taking a profit, dumbass.

Yeah, that's why we get such great service from them. They have a guaranteed job and performance is not important...…
you must have no life to want to speak with govt employees while waiting in their office for hours...….

Medicare is very efficient.

So working for Medicare is a guaranteed job? They can't get fired for poor performance?

I can get answers on the phone or on line.

 

[RealDave]

Rand Paul just went to Canada for health care.

Other countries pay for less.

Oh.....I'm glad you said that, now I know more

Rand Paul headed to Canada for surgery, but will pay out of pocket

He'll be paying for his care in full.

"This is a private, world-renowned hospital separate from any system and people come from around the world to pay cash for their services,” a spokesperson told POLITICO

This private system sounds awesome...we should do it.....
Private hospital and capitalism...count me in!


IO want to thank Dave for bringing this to my attention, so when people want real care in Canada, they go to the private capitalistic hospitals.....who knew????

So my example doesn't count because this is a world renowned doctor but you used Mayo Clinic,, a world renowned hospital, to claim Canadians run to America.

You are quite the ass.

No I used your example and learned about this private system. I even gave you credit, why be a dick? HE went to Canada to use a private hospital(not the typical Canadian socialist one). And the private guy is world renown……..how interesting

You thought you had me, but it backfired, we found out that Canadians have a two tier system and people with care pay cash and get good service, those that use the government, wish they could use the private one...….Thanks again for making it so clear.

We have a multi tiered system here. You can pay a doctor a retainer & get casre ion demand.
OMG OMG OMG

The pint is you claimed the Canadians have such a poor system that they run to the Mayo Clinic.

Asshole.

It's a little early to be drunk son.

There is no time designated to be OK to be stupid.