GOP wants to make the poor productive

[EdwardBaiamonte]

You don't get. Liberalism is based on pure ignorance that is why they must change to subject to personal attack!! Its easy enough to prove.
PLease say something substantive in support of liberalism. I won't holds my breath.

What Edward means is he is sick of personal attacks (even if he brings them on himself by being soo darned abrasive)

But you are a libertarian; You refuse to provide a name of a single country that has managed to become a successful libertarian country, ed. Till then don't expect any help from me.

obviously USA is most libertarian country in human history and so the richest country in human history, not to mention that we are the world's moral policeman too!! Still over your head???

 

[Toronado3800]

What Edward means is he is sick of personal attacks (even if he brings them on himself by being soo darned abrasive)

But you are a libertarian; You refuse to provide a name of a single country that has managed to become a successful libertarian country, ed. Till then don't expect any help from me.

obviously USA is most libertarian country in human history and so the richest country in human history, not to mention that we are the world's moral policeman too!! Still over your head???

The transcontinental railroad and land.grant programs of the mid 1800's are your idea of a country that grew great from small government after military plunder?

Or are we talking the 1950's world FDR created?

 

[idb]

Over the last year, I've heard a number of GOP politicians talk about how we need to preserve the middle class and turn the poor into productive citizens. Personally, I think this is an excellent idea. I'm all for it.

And now, Mr. Speaker and other gentlemen, here's what needs to happen in order to achieve this very worthy goal:

• Guarantee ample funding and the most talented educators in public schools at all levels and in all neighborhoods
• Make tuition at colleges and universities free or greatly subsidized, for those who are academically qualified and who want to pursue an economically useful degree (those who want to major in lesbian Uzbekistani basket weaving can do it on their own dime)
• Fund a public option for universal health care
• Regulate markets to prevent scams that discourage widespread investment
• Rebuild the infrastructure to pave the way for faster economic development
• Revamp the justice system so that it no longer disproportionately punishes the poor
• Bring the percentage of incarcerated citizens back in line with the rest of the free world (jails aren't free)

You realize that NONE of the items above is a handout for lazy, irresponsible people, of course. They are simply tools for those willing to make the effort to escape poverty and be successful.

Time to put your money where your mouths are.

better to eliminate the liberal reforms as follows since your ideas are liberal and stupid and not worth reading. We already spend tons on education and you want to spend more?? Stupid!!!



1) Make unions illegal ( 10 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

2) make minimum wage illegal ( 5 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

3) end business taxation; especially tax incentives to off-shore jobs ( 5 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

4) make inflation illegal ( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose


5) make Federal debt illegal( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

6) send illegal workers home(8 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

7) Pass Balanced Budget Amendment to Constitution( 3 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

8) cut pay of government workers in half( 4 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

9) Make health insurance competition legal( 6 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

10) end needless business regulations ( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

11) restrict Federal spending to 15% of GNP( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

12) support unlimited free trade( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

13) reduced unemployment compensation, welfare, food stamps, medicaid.( 2 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

14) privatize education, social security ( 4 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

15) end payroll taxes ( 1 million new jobs) Democrats oppose

Since Democrats always oppose wisdom and common sense the only serious option is to make them illegal as the Constitution intended.

The poor are also an excellent and plentiful source of heat, Ed.
They burn well and can be easily caught with a crust of bread on a piece of string.

 

[Rshermr]

What Edward means is he is sick of personal attacks (even if he brings them on himself by being soo darned abrasive)

But you are a libertarian; You refuse to provide a name of a single country that has managed to become a successful libertarian country, ed. Till then don't expect any help from me.

obviously USA is most libertarian country in human history and so the richest country in human history, not to mention that we are the world's moral policeman too!! Still over your head???

Ed, you are simply proving you are an idiot. Regulated capitalism does not equal a Libertarian economy. Jesus, are you stupid. Now, again, about that libertarian economy. Name a successful one.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Regulated capitalism does not equal a Libertarian economy. .

if I said it did I'll pay you $10,000. Bet or run away with your liberal strawman between your legs once again. Bet??

 

[Wonky Pundit]

Regulated capitalism does not equal a Libertarian economy. .

if I said it did I'll pay you $10,000. Bet or run away with your liberal strawman between your legs once again. Bet??

You'd lose, Eddie. Because if a = b, and c = b, then a = c. You don't have to explicitly state that a = c for it to be true.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Regulated capitalism does not equal a Libertarian economy. .

if I said it did I'll pay you $10,000. Bet or run away with your liberal strawman between your legs once again. Bet??

You'd lose, Eddie. Because if a = b, and c = b, then a = c. You don't have to explicitly state that a = c for it to be true.

Regulated capitalism does not equal a Libertarian economy. .

if I said it did I'll pay you $10,000. Bet or run away with your liberal strawman between your legs once again. Bet??

 

[saveliberty]

Regulated capitalism does not equal a Libertarian economy. .

if I said it did I'll pay you $10,000. Bet or run away with your liberal strawman between your legs once again. Bet??

You'd lose, Eddie. Because if a = b, and c = b, then a = c. You don't have to explicitly state that a = c for it to be true.

...and you have proven the equality?

 

[Toronado3800]

But you are a libertarian; You refuse to provide a name of a single country that has managed to become a successful libertarian country, ed. Till then don't expect any help from me.

obviously USA is most libertarian country in human history and so the richest country in human history, not to mention that we are the world's moral policeman too!! Still over your head???

The transcontinental railroad and land.grant programs of the mid 1800's are your idea of a country that grew great from small government after military plunder?

Or are we talking the 1950's world FDR created?

English is Edward's 2nd language I believe. My Spanish is not as good as his English so I think some of the a=b comparisons sneak by him.

Regardless, he was exposed to the communist block so he just plum hates anything non free market blindly. Maybe I would as well under the circumstances.

 

[Rshermr]

Regulated capitalism does not equal a Libertarian economy. .

if I said it did I'll pay you $10,000. Bet or run away with your liberal strawman between your legs once again. Bet??

Ah, so you did not say that the US economy was the best you could name as a libertarian economy?
Post 161 by eddy:

obviously USA is most libertarian country in human history

So, me boy, I know this is complicated. But my question was can you name a successful Libertarian economy? And you said, stupidly, the USA is the most libertarian in human history.

Now, apparently you do not like that I said that regulated capitalism, as in the USA, me boy, is quite different from a libertarian economy. I think you were trying to say you do not agree. So, Ed, what do you disagree with. I think I know, but spit it out, eddy.

By the way. You just admitted that you can not name a successful libertarian economy. It has been tried, old boy. We can talk about them, but they never got far.

So, the question is, since most males give up on libertarianism by the time they reach puberty, why do you still say you are a libertarian. Just because you like to back a looser? Or because you are but stupid? Or because you are paid to?

 

[Ernie S.]

if I said it did I'll pay you $10,000. Bet or run away with your liberal strawman between your legs once again. Bet??

You'd lose, Eddie. Because if a = b, and c = b, then a = c. You don't have to explicitly state that a = c for it to be true.

Regulated capitalism does not equal a Libertarian economy. .

if I said it did I'll pay you $10,000. Bet or run away with your liberal strawman between your legs once again. Bet??

The strawman is lonely there, there being no balls to hang out with.

 

[bestlink101]

i agree that poor people should work but if you get a low wage job which is considered productive it doesn't mean you can make a living off it, ie food shelter electricity water...

 

[Wonky Pundit]

You'd lose, Eddie. Because if a = b, and c = b, then a = c. You don't have to explicitly state that a = c for it to be true.

Regulated capitalism does not equal a Libertarian economy. .

if I said it did I'll pay you $10,000. Bet or run away with your liberal strawman between your legs once again. Bet??

The strawman is lonely there, there being no balls to hang out with.

You want to worship the guy/spambot/whatever-it-is just for posting the exact same thing twice? You're even more pathetic than Ed is.
Go play rep points with your little swamp friends.

 

[saveliberty]

You want to worship the guy/spambot/whatever-it-is just for posting the exact same thing twice? You're even more pathetic than Ed is.
Go play rep points with your little swamp friends.

You'd think a pundit could actually add to the body of knowledge discussed in a thread.

This is a wonky troll.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

i agree that poor people should work but if you get a low wage job which is considered productive it doesn't mean you can make a living off it, ie food shelter electricity water...

Clinton ended "welfare as we know it" by making them work and somehow 60% no longer needed the welfare!!!

No you can see the essence of liberalism.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

You want to worship the guy/spambot/whatever-it-is just for posting the exact same thing twice? You're even more pathetic than Ed is.
Go play rep points with your little swamp friends.

You'd think a pundit could actually add to the body of knowledge discussed in a thread.

This is a wonky troll.

Yes the wonk is a typical low IQ liberal. Easy enough to prove; let's hear him say one intelligent thing in defense of liberalism. Should be easy for a wonk. No conservative or libertarian would have to run away like that.

 

[Rshermr]

You want to worship the guy/spambot/whatever-it-is just for posting the exact same thing twice? You're even more pathetic than Ed is.
Go play rep points with your little swamp friends.

You'd think a pundit could actually add to the body of knowledge discussed in a thread.

This is a wonky troll.

Yes the wonk is a typical low IQ liberal. Easy enough to prove; let's hear him say one intelligent thing in defense of liberalism. Should be easy for a wonk. No conservative or libertarian would have to run away like that.

But Ed. You are a Libertarian. Like communism, it seems that Liebertarinism can not make it. Should we not throw them all in the garbage. Or is there a successful libertarian country.
If not, why would you back a looser??? About as stupid as a communist. But at least they can point to long periods when communist countries existed, sort of. But poor ed can not point to a single libertarian country that lasted as long as, say cuba. Poor ed. Backing a looser.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

You'd think a pundit could actually add to the body of knowledge discussed in a thread.

This is a wonky troll.

Yes the wonk is a typical low IQ liberal. Easy enough to prove; let's hear him say one intelligent thing in defense of liberalism. Should be easy for a wonk. No conservative or libertarian would have to run away like that.

But Ed. You are a Libertarian. Like communism, it seems that Liebertarinism can not make it. Should we not throw them all in the garbage. Or is there a successful libertarian country.
If not, why would you back a looser??? About as stupid as a communist. But at least they can point to long periods when communist countries existed, sort of. But poor ed can not point to a single libertarian country that lasted as long as, say cuba. Poor ed. Backing a looser.

Meaningless lunacy since there was never a pure libertarian communist socialist fascist Fabian socialist or capitalist countryon earth; so by your liberal logic all political philosophies are losers. Moreover, for the first 200,000 years of human life on this planet there was no relatively libertarian country until America, but that did not mean the philosophy was a looser.


See what happens when a liberal tries to think?? Why not try law school and learn how to think Socratically??

 

[Toronado3800]

Yes the wonk is a typical low IQ liberal. Easy enough to prove; let's hear him say one intelligent thing in defense of liberalism. Should be easy for a wonk. No conservative or libertarian would have to run away like that.

But Ed. You are a Libertarian. Like communism, it seems that Liebertarinism can not make it. Should we not throw them all in the garbage. Or is there a successful libertarian country.
If not, why would you back a looser??? About as stupid as a communist. But at least they can point to long periods when communist countries existed, sort of. But poor ed can not point to a single libertarian country that lasted as long as, say cuba. Poor ed. Backing a looser.

Meaningless lunacy since there was never a pure libertarian communist socialist fascist Fabian socialist or capitalist countryon earth; so by your liberal logic all political philosophies are losers. Moreover, for the first 200,000 years of human life on this planet there was no relatively libertarian country until America, but that did not mean the philosophy was a looser.


See what happens when a liberal tries to think?? Why not try law school and learn how to think Socratically??

What is your 200,000 year statement all about?

You think government was bigger then than now?

BTW, what was your favorite year in America? When we were the closest to your ideals?

Answer nice and ppl will reply nicely btw.

 

[Rshermr]

Yes the wonk is a typical low IQ liberal. Easy enough to prove; let's hear him say one intelligent thing in defense of liberalism. Should be easy for a wonk. No conservative or libertarian would have to run away like that.

But Ed. You are a Libertarian. Like communism, it seems that Liebertarinism can not make it. Should we not throw them all in the garbage. Or is there a successful libertarian country.
If not, why would you back a looser??? About as stupid as a communist. But at least they can point to long periods when communist countries existed, sort of. But poor ed can not point to a single libertarian country that lasted as long as, say cuba. Poor ed. Backing a looser.

Meaningless lunacy since there was never a pure libertarian communist socialist fascist Fabian socialist or capitalist countryon earth; so by your liberal logic all political philosophies are losers. Moreover, for the first 200,000 years of human life on this planet there was no relatively libertarian country until America, but that did not mean the philosophy was a looser.


See what happens when a liberal tries to think?? Why not try law school and learn how to think Socratically??

Now ed. Playing the con game of changing what was said so you can try to attack it is disingenuous. Which i know does not bother you. What I said, me boy, is that like Communism, Libertarian economies are bound to fail. We all are just waiting for you to name one that did not. And you, comically, name the united states.