GOP Senator..."tough shit" for the unemployed

[Vel]

Rand Paul is trying for the asshole senators seat.
Would Rand act any differently on this issue?

WHY is Bunning an asshole IYO for expecting the program extension to not add to the deficit?

 

[uscitizen]

How about that billion plus US embassy in England?

 

[uscitizen]

Rand Paul is trying for the asshole senators seat.
Would Rand act any differently on this issue?

WHY is Bunning an asshole IYO for expecting the program extension to not add to the deficit?

In all fairness I have considered Bunning an asshole for so many years that I would still conisder him an asshole if he walked on water.

He needs to go bird hunting with Cheney.

He was the idiot that submitted right wing bills that everyone else was ashamed to.

I have no reason to believe this is any different. He is going out and takiing the heat while the other right wingers can say it was not me!
All part of the plan.

 

[DiamondDave]

Well, I'm not a closed minded judgumental asshole that thinks certain people don't deserve a chance at getting assistance in one of the richest countries in the world.

If everything is left in the hand of the people, with many close minded, judgmental assholes, many people wouldn't get much help because of the holier than thou people

Choosing the cause you like to support (or causes) is being judgmental?? My choosing ADA because my step-father suffered from diabetes, and not choosing to fund rehab programs is judgmental?

See.. you left wingers know what is best for everyone... how much is enough and the rest to get redistributed... how to limit the freedoms of those you deem unworthy, while you claim to be for the freedoms of all..

You are a proponent of iron fist control of government over freedoms... and that says it all

And lest you forget.. you are not owed jack shit.. you are the only one responsible for you

Umm, its many conservatives that think you know what's best for everyone, which is why if it was all based on personal charity, mostly white christians would get help and many people who these holier than thou assholes think aren't worthy of help

You are such the typical conservative on here, make shit up, make claims about what the other person said that simply was not there. and what they believe in. Disingenuous ***** many of you people are. having gov't assistance programs is hardly ruling with an iron fist control of gov't over freedoms.In fact, most conservatives of today are the ones trying to force their morals on other.


I am forced to pay taxes for foreign wars, foreign bases, and tons of other shit I don't use nor never will. It's part of living in society.

You are the one in support of government taxation of some higher than others with part of those tax dollars being dealt out to the support of some who do not provide for themselves... that is called forced redistribution

You, through your statements, have shown that you do not support the voluntary choice of charity, showing that you are indeed against the freedom to choose what you do in support of others with what you have personally earned.. that is indeed being against the concept of freedom

You are indeed the disingenuous ****...

My choosing to donate to my selective charities of St. Judes, ADA, Scholarship funds, etc is NOT being holier than thou.... whereas your generosity with the funds of others and saying where those monies need to go to take over the personal responsibilities of others because YOU believe you know best, is

 

[Vel]

Rand Paul is trying for the asshole senators seat.
Would Rand act any differently on this issue?

WHY is Bunning an asshole IYO for expecting the program extension to not add to the deficit?

In all fairness I have considered Bunning an asshole for so many years that I would still conisder him an asshole if he walked on water.

He needs to go bird hunting with Cheney.

He was the idiot that submitted right wing bills that everyone else was ashamed to.

Other issues aside, what is your objection to his wanting the unemployment extension paid for with stimulus funds? This is a very straightforward question that the liberal posters can't seem to answer.

 

[Dr.House]

sounds like another compassionate conservative......

 

[kwc57]

What state do YOU live in? I need to move there, just in case.

Illinois.

My cousin just started working as a recruiter out of college. He's got positions to fill but has trouble finding anyone to fill them because they're collecting unemployment checks that are larger than the job pays. He'll often "interview" people who say straight out that they don't want a job, they just need the interview to prove they're looking for work so they can keep collecting unemployment.

Now i understand there's people out there that don't abuse unemployment and use it for what it was intended for, but i'd prefer that the system really pushes the unemployed back into the workforce rather than encourage them to get comfortable outside of it.

I'm a conservative and I can tell you that in the same situation, I'd do the same thing. Once you get tied down in a new job, you are not very free to continue job hunting and going on interviews. Only a fool would settle for a job paying less than his unemployment benefit instead of trying to find a higher paying job in line with what he had been making in the past that his mortgage and expenses are based on. When push comes to shove at the end of your unemployment benefits, THEN you take the lower paying job as a last resort. Until then, you take the benefit and keep trying for a higher paying jobs. Common sense.

 

[Dr Gregg]

Choosing the cause you like to support (or causes) is being judgmental?? My choosing ADA because my step-father suffered from diabetes, and not choosing to fund rehab programs is judgmental?

See.. you left wingers know what is best for everyone... how much is enough and the rest to get redistributed... how to limit the freedoms of those you deem unworthy, while you claim to be for the freedoms of all..

You are a proponent of iron fist control of government over freedoms... and that says it all

And lest you forget.. you are not owed jack shit.. you are the only one responsible for you

Umm, its many conservatives that think you know what's best for everyone, which is why if it was all based on personal charity, mostly white christians would get help and many people who these holier than thou assholes think aren't worthy of help

You are such the typical conservative on here, make shit up, make claims about what the other person said that simply was not there. and what they believe in. Disingenuous ***** many of you people are. having gov't assistance programs is hardly ruling with an iron fist control of gov't over freedoms.In fact, most conservatives of today are the ones trying to force their morals on other.


I am forced to pay taxes for foreign wars, foreign bases, and tons of other shit I don't use nor never will. It's part of living in society.

You are the one in support of government taxation of some higher than others with part of those tax dollars being dealt out to the support of some who do not provide for themselves... that is called forced redistribution

You, through your statements, have shown that you do not support the voluntary choice of charity, showing that you are indeed against the freedom to choose what you do in support of others with what you have personally earned.. that is indeed being against the concept of freedom

You are indeed the disingenuous ****...

My choosing to donate to my selective charities of St. Judes, ADA, Scholarship funds, etc is NOT being holier than thou.... whereas your generosity with the funds of others and saying where those monies need to go to take over the personal responsibilities of others because YOU believe you know best, is

Um, yeah, typical brainless person, can't even come back with your own criticism, just repeat what I called you. which actually fits by the way, another disingenuous argument on your part.

wE all pay taxes, for things you support probably, like wars and defense, roads, police, schools etc. So don't get why you call one thing "restriction of freedom" and "forced distribution" when that happens all the time in many other facets of gov't.

You guys think life is a fairy tale, no gov't eveytthing will work out wonderfully. History has told us otherwise of what happens without gov't to protect us

 

[uscitizen]

And how the heck will using stimulus money not raise the debt? It is all borrowed money at this point anyway and is adding to the debt?

Bunning is full of crap and playing some game for his party.
One might want to see which corp gives him a cushy job after he is out.

 

[Missourian]

I say Bfgrn and the Huf-fungus-ton Pist is full of crap.

From the same article:

Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) took the floor after Reid to stick up for Bunning. He noted that there is broad bipartisan support for extending benefits, but said Bunning was right to take a stand against adding $10 billion to the deficit. He also pointed out that the jobs bill that Reid scrapped two weeks ago, crafted by Sens. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) and Max Baucus (D-Mont.), contained an extension of UI and COBRA.

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[DiamondDave]

Umm, its many conservatives that think you know what's best for everyone, which is why if it was all based on personal charity, mostly white christians would get help and many people who these holier than thou assholes think aren't worthy of help

You are such the typical conservative on here, make shit up, make claims about what the other person said that simply was not there. and what they believe in. Disingenuous ***** many of you people are. having gov't assistance programs is hardly ruling with an iron fist control of gov't over freedoms.In fact, most conservatives of today are the ones trying to force their morals on other.


I am forced to pay taxes for foreign wars, foreign bases, and tons of other shit I don't use nor never will. It's part of living in society.

You are the one in support of government taxation of some higher than others with part of those tax dollars being dealt out to the support of some who do not provide for themselves... that is called forced redistribution

You, through your statements, have shown that you do not support the voluntary choice of charity, showing that you are indeed against the freedom to choose what you do in support of others with what you have personally earned.. that is indeed being against the concept of freedom

You are indeed the disingenuous ****...

My choosing to donate to my selective charities of St. Judes, ADA, Scholarship funds, etc is NOT being holier than thou.... whereas your generosity with the funds of others and saying where those monies need to go to take over the personal responsibilities of others because YOU believe you know best, is

Um, yeah, typical brainless person, can't even come back with your own criticism, just repeat what I called you. which actually fits by the way, another disingenuous argument on your part.

wE all pay taxes, for things you support probably, like wars and defense, roads, police, schools etc. So don't get why you call one thing "restriction of freedom" and "forced distribution" when that happens all the time in many other facets of gov't.

You guys think life is a fairy tale, no gov't eveytthing will work out wonderfully. History has told us otherwise of what happens without gov't to protect us

National defense is not a personal responsibility... roads are not a personal responsibility (unless they are on your private property)... law enforcement is not a personal responsibility... and guess what, fuckstain, they all deal in areas of public domain.. your person, your body, your house, your bills, your personal care is not something to be used and shared by the public or society... hence why YOUR personal well being, and the paying for it, is your PERSONAL responsibility and not everyone else's

Ignorant left winger that is so generous when it comes to the monies of others and believes it is everyone else's responsibility but your own

 

[Vel]

And how the heck will using stimulus money not raise the debt? It is all borrowed money at this point anyway and is adding to the debt?

Bunning is full of crap and playing some game for his party.
One might want to see which corp gives him a cushy job after he is out.

So you would be for spending the stimulus money that has already been added to the deficit on other things and borrowing MORE money from the Chinese to extend UE benefits and further INCREASE the deficit? Do I have that right?

 

[uscitizen]

And how the heck will using stimulus money not raise the debt? It is all borrowed money at this point anyway and is adding to the debt?

Bunning is full of crap and playing some game for his party.
One might want to see which corp gives him a cushy job after he is out.

So you would be for spending the stimulus money that has already been added to the deficit on other things and borrowing MORE money from the Chinese to extend UE benefits and further INCREASE the deficit? Do I have that right?

It is all borrowed money so it make no difference to me.

Lets see do I put this on Visa or Mastercard?

I have always been for helping the working class and not for TARP.

 

[Dr Gregg]

You are the one in support of government taxation of some higher than others with part of those tax dollars being dealt out to the support of some who do not provide for themselves... that is called forced redistribution

You, through your statements, have shown that you do not support the voluntary choice of charity, showing that you are indeed against the freedom to choose what you do in support of others with what you have personally earned.. that is indeed being against the concept of freedom

You are indeed the disingenuous ****...

My choosing to donate to my selective charities of St. Judes, ADA, Scholarship funds, etc is NOT being holier than thou.... whereas your generosity with the funds of others and saying where those monies need to go to take over the personal responsibilities of others because YOU believe you know best, is

Um, yeah, typical brainless person, can't even come back with your own criticism, just repeat what I called you. which actually fits by the way, another disingenuous argument on your part.

wE all pay taxes, for things you support probably, like wars and defense, roads, police, schools etc. So don't get why you call one thing "restriction of freedom" and "forced distribution" when that happens all the time in many other facets of gov't.

You guys think life is a fairy tale, no gov't eveytthing will work out wonderfully. History has told us otherwise of what happens without gov't to protect us

National defense is not a personal responsibility... roads are not a personal responsibility (unless they are on your private property)... law enforcement is not a personal responsibility... and guess what, fuckstain, they all deal in areas of public domain.. your person, your body, your house, your bills, your personal care is not something to be used and shared by the public or society... hence why YOUR personal well being, and the paying for it, is your PERSONAL responsibility and not everyone else's

Ignorant left winger that is so generous when it comes to the monies of others and believes it is everyone else's responsibility but your own

ah yes, the ignorant person who think anybody who doesn't have a job or needs assitance is in that positions solely because of their own actions and their own fault. Like I said, you live in fairy tale land.

Another talking point always brought up by ignorant fundies like yourself, the" generous with other people's money".Umm, I make money, get taxed on that. I buy things and get taxed on that. I contribute, so its not other people's money. There you are with the greed bullshit.

WTF does personal responsiblity have to do with the fact tons of taxpayer money (or as you would call it "my money") is used for military, roads, and tons of other things, many in which I may never use? Trying to deflect away from yet another disingenuous post.

Yes, we know, yoru eyes anybody who is poor is a lazy bum looking for a handout and who doesn't work hard. Everybody that supports helping people all want things for free and want a handout. Gov't assitance is socialism and redistribution of wealth, but money for roads, schools, military, and other gov't functions is not. Any other stupid, non factual, judgemental talking points of yours that I missed?

 

[Avatar4321]

Hell with it, why don't we give them unemployment benefits for life.

If you ever get fired, I really hope you donate your unemployment check to a charity. I know the money is yours but you have ZERO compassion. Typical republican.

How is keeping people dependent on government at all compassionate?

You and I have very different ideas of compassion. You think government programs are compassion. I actually want to help people.

 

[Vel]

And how the heck will using stimulus money not raise the debt? It is all borrowed money at this point anyway and is adding to the debt?

Bunning is full of crap and playing some game for his party.
One might want to see which corp gives him a cushy job after he is out.

So you would be for spending the stimulus money that has already been added to the deficit on other things and borrowing MORE money from the Chinese to extend UE benefits and further INCREASE the deficit? Do I have that right?

It is all borrowed money so it make no difference to me.

Lets see do I put this on Visa or Mastercard?

I have always been for helping the working class and not for TARP.

How does borrowing an ADDITIONAL 10 Billion dollars on help the working class? And if it makes no difference to you, why would you call Bunning an asshole for not supporting additional borrowing?

 

[Dr Gregg]

Hell with it, why don't we give them unemployment benefits for life.

If you ever get fired, I really hope you donate your unemployment check to a charity. I know the money is yours but you have ZERO compassion. Typical republican.

How is keeping people dependent on government at all compassionate?

You and I have very different ideas of compassion. You think government programs are compassion. I actually want to help people.

You guys keep saying "dependent on the gov't" like anybody who gets assistance gets it for life. THa'ts bullshit. its to get them on their feet to help themselves. Sometimes, if you don't have anything, no amount of trying to "help yourself" is going to do shit.

And another thing many of you like to do is show examples of fraud and somebody milking or frauding the system and that is the norm, when that's no true for the majority of it.

that's like me pointing out molestation in the catholic church and claiming that all churches should be done away with because they molest children. See how stupid and unrealistic that is?

If you have problems with assistance, state them, real ones. not lies and twists and simplified statements to issues that are really complex. To me it just sounds like you jsut want to keep more of your money but don't want to face the consequences and reality of cutting some of these programs, so you try to demonize those who need it, and falsely so

 

[DiamondDave]

Um, yeah, typical brainless person, can't even come back with your own criticism, just repeat what I called you. which actually fits by the way, another disingenuous argument on your part.

wE all pay taxes, for things you support probably, like wars and defense, roads, police, schools etc. So don't get why you call one thing "restriction of freedom" and "forced distribution" when that happens all the time in many other facets of gov't.

You guys think life is a fairy tale, no gov't eveytthing will work out wonderfully. History has told us otherwise of what happens without gov't to protect us

National defense is not a personal responsibility... roads are not a personal responsibility (unless they are on your private property)... law enforcement is not a personal responsibility... and guess what, fuckstain, they all deal in areas of public domain.. your person, your body, your house, your bills, your personal care is not something to be used and shared by the public or society... hence why YOUR personal well being, and the paying for it, is your PERSONAL responsibility and not everyone else's

Ignorant left winger that is so generous when it comes to the monies of others and believes it is everyone else's responsibility but your own

ah yes, the ignorant person who think anybody who doesn't have a job or needs assitance is in that positions solely because of their own actions and their own fault. Like I said, you live in fairy tale land.

Another talking point always brought up by ignorant fundies like yourself, the" generous with other people's money".Umm, I make money, get taxed on that. I buy things and get taxed on that. I contribute, so its not other people's money. There you are with the greed bullshit.

WTF does personal responsiblity have to do with the fact tons of taxpayer money (or as you would call it "my money") is used for military, roads, and tons of other things, many in which I may never use? Trying to deflect away from yet another disingenuous post.

Yes, we know, yoru eyes anybody who is poor is a lazy bum looking for a handout and who doesn't work hard. Everybody that supports helping people all want things for free and want a handout. Gov't assitance is socialism and redistribution of wealth, but money for roads, schools, military, and other gov't functions is not. Any other stupid, non factual, judgemental talking points of yours that I missed?

Do you make the choice to work for a company? Yep.. Do you have the freedom to look into the company's well being?? Yep.. Do you make the choice to advance or change your skills?? Yep... Face it, bubba, your situation may be influenced by outside things, but it is indeed YOUR responsibility, and not someone else's

As for the roads and national defense... you have the freedom to use your driving privilege (or someone else using their privilege to transport you) to go anywhere... your motherfucking body and well being is not public domain and YOU are the sole ************ responsible for you

I have given you facts... you choose not to believe them

 

[Jay Canuck]

sounds like another compassionate conservative......

I figured it out - my balls on your chin.

 

[rdean]

It'd be nice to see details on just the kind of people who would receive said "benefits." I've heard some pretty hilariously troubling horror stories about people on unemployment lately with my cousin being a recruiter.

It will be interesting if there is a republican in here who's unemployment check will just not be there next month. I wonder what he would say about the republicans.

Damn.

Who knows. All i know is that most conservatives tend to take care of themselves rather than looking for someone else to take care of them.

Reminds me of that guy on coach, "I've been on food stamps and welfare, anyone help me out? No!".

You can't make this shit up.

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